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When you remove content and references from articles, please provide your reasons for doing so otherwise your updates will get reversed.

Thanks! ] (]) 16:57, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

:I have no idea what you are referring to. ] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-1.040ex;">]</sub> 18:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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Since you mentioned "some ok stuff" request to specify and introduce back on the ] page. the intention here shoould be to present fact based information. Request to support reverts with source links or edit information which may be of concern than reverting the entire edits. there is a lot of blatant POV posted on the page currently from PAN/EJF which are biased due to the nature of their organization. Please check. Also, "quote-mining" is unclear, as many irrelevant quotes are present from unkown parties ex. comparison to Bhopal gas tragedy.Request to please post on talk before rv. Let's be democratic. ] (]) 08:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

: Hi, I have shared my concerns regarding the recent reverts made on the talk page. pls share a suitable explanation for your revert. In lieu of no response, I would consider that the edits I had made are acceptable and revert back to the information shared by me. thanks.] (]) 06:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

::Hi, sorry, I've been away from my computer until now. I don't see where on the ] you've shared your concerns about the reverts--the last edit there was . But to address your comments here: Nothing on the page is cited to PAN other than the brief mention of the fact they sued EPA over the pesticide. And the only EJF thing on there is an external link to one their reports, (which I didn't even realize was there until now--I'd be fine removing that, though I don't necessarily think it ''needs'' to go.) As for quote mining, see ]. My use of the term refers to your insertion of text about EPA's conclusion that endosulfan doesn't pose a dietary risk and the quote from APMVA. These additions gave the impression that EPA and APVMA have concluded that endosulfan is safe, when in actuality you are quoting decisions to ban/phaseout endosulfan. If a report/article/document concludes one thing, you can't present a quote from within the document that appears to argue for the opposite unless you put that quote in the proper context. ] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-1.040ex;">]</sub> 18:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== sic ==

Hi, I have restored both refs that you removed from the article ]. While you're right that the sources did not discuss those subjects, I believe what happened was that the fact cited and their sources were decoupled through the on-going edits made by various editors. It's not uncommon for people reorganize a paragraph or section to make it read better without bothering to check the sources. In short, please, if in the future you encounter that a ref that doesn't seem to contain a particular fact, try to find another place to put the ref before removing it. Thanks :) —]] 16:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks. A very weird situation was it. ] (]) 01:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
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I thought this article/diff may interest you. ] (]) 01:25, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks. Lot's of loonies out there.... ] <sup>]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-1.040ex;">]</sub> 18:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

== NIU & Carnegie ==

Thanks for the edit summary, too. ] (]) 18:29, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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== WP:MEDRS, WP:FRINGE and pesticide articles ==

I see you recently had edits reverted at ] by Kingofaces43. I agree with you that (1)WP:MEDRS, WP:FRINGE are not policies, and have pointed this out to Koa several times when he has conflated them with policy, and (2)WP:MEDRS, WP:FRINGE are not directly relevant to the information you added, which is based on independent RS coverage, as long as you avoid explicit health claims. In my personal experience, it is best to limit your engagement with Kingofaces43 as much as possible with articles in this area, as he is likely to try to get you blocked for edit warring / violating the agricultural chemicals section of the ]. Rather than argue with him further, I suggest opening a request for comment about your proposed content on the article talk page, to get feedback from other editors.] (]) 18:25, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

== Reverted edits to ] ==

Hi! I'm a bit confused about your rationale for . Could you elaborate further? ] shouldn't apply, because Gira is a public figure. Also, the consensus on the talk page was that the allegations should be discussed - the section was removed in opposition to this and ] ("''If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it.''") --] (]) 01:16, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

: Thanks. I not would say there was any sort of consensus on the ]. All there is one editor asking if the allegations could be mentioned, and another editor saying "As long as you have good sourcing and follow guidelines, I don't see why not." That's not much of a consensus. Then the seection in question was removed without objection, and it remained out for more than year during which time more than a dozen unique editors worked on the page, so I would ] that the ''current'' consensus is to keep that section out.

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Please do not make unilateral changes which are controversial and opposed. This is not being bold. Please allow discussions to conclude before making changes. Do not impose your own version on the article, it is not constructive and is disruptive. it also goes against trying to build a consensus. ] (]) 21:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, right now this just me and you--we really need a third or moreth opinion here. I will say: I have already met you more than half way on this page--you've gotten your way on the use of the word "activist" and the associated category, you've gotten your way with the name of the court case, and while I agree with {{U|JDDJS}} about , I' haven't reverted your revert. It's not that I agree with you on those things--it's that I comprised, in the hope that you might to the same. So far, you haven't. You don't ] the page; you need to comprise, too, and this would be a good place to start. Sooner or later, someone will notice our dispute and they will see a register user with 10+ years of history on this site, who has already compromised on this page, making arguments based in policy and guidelines and an anonymous IP with a refactored talkpage saying, basically, "I don't like it." Whose arguments do you think will prevail? ] (]) 22:53, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

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:::Interested users can check out the article history and talkpage and decide for themselves who was being reasonable and who, if anyone, wasn't. I invite anyone watching my talk page to tell me if they think I'm in the wrong here. Having said that, I'm glad we could reach a compromise that we can both live with. ] (]) 03:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

::::I have to take issue with a serious factual error you have made. You have claimed I have "reverted three times in 24 hours". You have failed to notice the difference between general editing and actual reverting. Changes made to different sections or parts of an article. The Revert of JDDJS was pointing out the removal of notable and sourced information. This in wholly unrelated to your unconstructive dump edit. This is almost a carbon copy of you dumping in the word activist and behaving in an incidental manner which was poor then and is poor again. When you know an edit is contentiousness make an edit an an imposition. Allow the discussion to conclude before going on imposition mode you did it regarding branding the article with the word activist and tried to do exactly the same on this latest saga. ] (]) 08:40, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

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== You cannot resist ==

Why do you insists on a slow burn edit war on the Nicole Maines article. The "compromise" you prefer is not agreed upon and is not discussed. You just like imposing your revision. Please self revert or I will simply report you for the same edit warring behaviour you cannot resist engaging in. ] (]) 21:53, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

You cannot simply wait a period of time, and not engage in any discussion and hope that you can sneak your version of the article past everyone without anyone noticing. ] (]) 21:56, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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I've noted one over at ] and invited the user concerned to self-revert. Now I really must get back to my Wikibreak.] 07:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


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I like how they claim to be "concerned about the intellectual climate" and the stifling of debate, and their response is to hire planes to drown out people they don't agree with. Perhaps irony really is dead. It's definitely got the telltale fingerprints on it. As to including it in ], I think it's borderline. A lot of the sourcing is either primary/original synthesis (e.g. the WHOIS records) or questionable secondary (the National Review blog posting), although as the National Review is pretty well-known, it's potentially acceptable. If anyone feels strongly about it, though, it may need to be removed until a more reliable secondary source pops up. Of course, it looks like they are seeking publicity, so it may not be long. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 16:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
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:I agree that it's borderline, and if it gets removed I won't argue/revert as long as the reverter attempts to justify why it should be removed. As it stands now, there seems to be consensus that it should stay so.... The national review post is odd--I believe it is legit (why would Milloy's CEI collegue Iain Murray lie)--but it is odd. I almost think that Murray erred in making the post. What is he quoting from, an email from Milloy or an internal CEI document? As far as I can tell, Milloy/CEI/junkscience has not yet public owned up to demanddebate.com. I wouldn't be surprised if that National review post mysteriously disappears.


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:Anyways, I agree that's a little ridiculous (disingenuous) to claim to be "concerned about the intellectual climate" and then literally drown out their opponents arguments by ''hiring a plane to buzz the podium''. And doing it anonymously no less! ] 17:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
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:I also love how the site has News posts going back to December 2006, but according to whois.net, the site wasn't registered until April 07. It looks like they are trying to make it look like the sight has been around for longer than it really has been (can you say astroturf?), but I don't know enough about domain name registration to say for sure. www.archive.org hasn't indexed it yet either, leading me to believe that it's relatively new. ] 17:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


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Re . Here's the whole quote from , a secondary source, article from a peer-reviewed journal and I believe it can be used to support the paragraph:


{{Quote|text=A truly extraordinary variety of alternatives to the chemical control of insects is available. Some are already in use and have achieved brilliant success. Others are in the stage of laboratory testing. Still others are little more than ideas in the minds of imaginative scientists, waiting for the opportunity to put them to the test. All have this in common: they are biological solutions, based on understanding of the living organisms they seek to control, and of the whole fabric of life to which these organisms belong. Specialists representing various areas of the vast field of biology are contributing—entomologists, pathologists, geneticists, physiologists, biochemists, ecologists all pouring their knowledge and their creative inspirations into the formation of a new science of biotic controls|author=|title=|source=}}
Curious about your thoughts on my summary of the controversy over the 1998 WHO/IARC study at the suddenly-very-active ] page. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 20:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:I have limited computer time in front the computer today and this weekend, but I will try to look at this stuff as soon as I can. It might take a day or two though. I'll let you know. ] 02:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well I just read the Lancet study (thanks for the link by the way). I think your summary in ] page is right on. ] 18:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


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* I also reverted your revert of my edit to ]. SourceWatch is a wiki, and like Misplaced Pages, is not considered a reliable source for article content. SourceWatch may be allowed in some circumstances as an external link, but never for sourcing article content. It is interesting that you made two reverts of recent edits in my history, to articles which seem out of the way of your normal editing pattern. Are you trying to make some sort of point, or are you just Blowing Smoke? - ] 00:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
* One more thing, is a blog, also known as a self-published source. Self-published sources may only be used in articles about themselves, per ]. There are three other more reliable sources supporting the claim anyway, so its loss doesn't affect the article in any way. - ] 00:49, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


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:The ''New York Press'' is most certainly not obscure, and has a comparable circulation to the ''Washington Times''. The article is critical of Drudge, but no more derogatory than a ''WSJ'' editorial criticizing the Clintons. Or any liberal, for that matter.
::Well, the linked article says precisely that, so it's our debate on whether Carson meant this or not that is really OR :) ] (]) 10:21, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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::As for sourcewatch--last I knew there was no consensus about whether sourcewatch was not acceptable. I have looked for discussion on this and haven't found it--can you point me in the right direction? It seems to me that quoting an ''opinion'' from from Sourcewatch, with proper attribution in the article (i.e. "Sourecewatch argues...") ought to be acceptable, especially outside the context of ]. On the other hand, using sourcewatch as a source for ''facts'' and only attributing it them in references, is a different beast entirely. Anyways, I'm not interested in reopening any settled debates: if Sourcewatch specifically has been ruled out by consensus then I can live that, but if you're are simply applying a broader decision or policy, then I think there is some room for debate. (I'm not sure that I have the energy for it.)


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::: I'm short of time at the moment, and a lot of the policy and guideline pages have had their content shuffled around, but here is a recent that illustrates some of the problems with SourceWatch as a reliable source. Beyond issues of bias, the main reason that open wikis are not allowed as reliable sources is that one can never guarantee what is going to appear on the screen at any given random time, when the source page is loaded. It could be good info, or it could be "POOP". That is the main reason that Misplaced Pages is not allowed to source itself, and the principle holds for all wikis. As to the Drudge issue, I think that the arguments presented on ] in opposition to including well-sourced criticism from ] apply here, and Eleemosynary was a strong opponent of including that information in the Soros article. The O'Reilly criticism is nowhere near as harsh and derogatory as the piece I removed from Drudge. O'Reilly is certainly more notable (as is his opinion) than the NYPress author. I really would like to see a consistent treatment of sources in all articles, and I try to apply that wherever I edit, but I already have about a thousand articles on my watchlist, so I can't fix everything. (PS. I am not opposed to all criticism in ], I am only opposed to this particular criticism. I also think there is an undue weight problem, since there is only one link under "Praise", and two under "Criticism", one that calls him a "nasty little faggot". Sourced notable criticism is fine, but this one is only there to bash Drudge, and to insert the "gay allegation" that has so far been kept out of the article by consensus.) - ] 17:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Let's cut through it, shall we? There's been a long campaign to keep anything critical of Drudge off the page, and the ''NYPress'' article is not principally about Drudge's sexuality, it's about Drudge's attacks on Brock. And articles critical of Drudge haven't been kept off the page by "consensus," they've been kept off by ''policy shopping'', ("It violates ]! Oh wait... it doesn't? Well then... it violates ]! Oh wait... it doesn't? Well then... it violates "undue weight"! Oh, wait... ''ad infinitum''). Well, we now have a reliable source, from a noted author, which does not violate BLP. An editor has tried to claim ''NYPress'' is "obscure." Wrong. He's made the claim that Signorile or Brock are irrelevant because he hasn't heard of them. Also wrong. If an editor is worried about "undue weight," he can insert another complimentary article under "Praise." But the constant policy shopping is tiresome. --] 19:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::: (edit conflict, responding to original wording above) It's a nice dodge to attack another editor with a charge of "policy shopping", but it doesn't explain your about turn on the principle of the argument. Why are you fighting for the inclusion of an attack article that labels the subject a "nasty faggot", while you vehemently oppose any criticism in Soros? You haven't explained that bit of apparent hypocrisy. And fyi, you should have learned by now that if you are going to make a broad-brush accusation regarding me, you had better have some diffs backing up your assertion. ] is not even a guideline, it is an essay written by one user who made up the concept, and it is a very flawed concept which discounts the very foundation of western discourse, namely the ]. I have already told that user that his essay will lead to user's citing it when they cannot beat someone on the merits of the arguments, and here we are. There has been long-standing consensus developed on ] that the gay allegations are not verifiable enough, nor notable enough, to be in the article. But here it is being slipped in under the guise of "legitimate criticism". You appear to have flip-flopped. I challenge you to find the same inconsistency in my arguments anywhere I have edited this year. I also challenge you to find anything that can be characterized as "policy shopping" as well. Until you do, any further use of that term by you relating to me will be regarded as a personal attack, and handled appropriately. - ] 19:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::I didn't realize that I was stepping into hornet's net when I made that edit on the Matt Drudge page. If you two have a history of warring, that's unfortunate, and I would prefer to not be involved. My only point is that justification for removal of the link was spurious. The link clearly meets ], ], ]. I would also point out that nothing in ] says that there needs to be equal numbers of links or equal amounts of words given to the positive and negative aspects of a subject. ] 20:05, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::: I hear you, this discussion should be taking place elsewhere. I will copy most of this thread to ]. - ] 20:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


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I have no idea what you are referring to. Yilloslime C 18:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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talk:endosulfan

Since you mentioned "some ok stuff" request to specify and introduce back on the endosulfan page. the intention here shoould be to present fact based information. Request to support reverts with source links or edit information which may be of concern than reverting the entire edits. there is a lot of blatant POV posted on the page currently from PAN/EJF which are biased due to the nature of their organization. Please check. Also, "quote-mining" is unclear, as many irrelevant quotes are present from unkown parties ex. comparison to Bhopal gas tragedy.Request to please post on talk before rv. Let's be democratic. Webbandit (talk) 08:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I have shared my concerns regarding the recent reverts made on the talk page. pls share a suitable explanation for your revert. In lieu of no response, I would consider that the edits I had made are acceptable and revert back to the information shared by me. thanks.Webbandit (talk) 06:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, sorry, I've been away from my computer until now. I don't see where on the talkpage you've shared your concerns about the reverts--the last edit there was 10 months ago. But to address your comments here: Nothing on the page is cited to PAN other than the brief mention of the fact they sued EPA over the pesticide. And the only EJF thing on there is an external link to one their reports, (which I didn't even realize was there until now--I'd be fine removing that, though I don't necessarily think it needs to go.) As for quote mining, see Quote mining. My use of the term refers to your insertion of text about EPA's conclusion that endosulfan doesn't pose a dietary risk and the quote from APMVA. These additions gave the impression that EPA and APVMA have concluded that endosulfan is safe, when in actuality you are quoting decisions to ban/phaseout endosulfan. If a report/article/document concludes one thing, you can't present a quote from within the document that appears to argue for the opposite unless you put that quote in the proper context. Yilloslime C 18:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

sic

Hi, I have restored both refs that you removed from the article sic. While you're right that the sources did not discuss those subjects, I believe what happened was that the fact cited and their sources were decoupled through the on-going edits made by various editors. It's not uncommon for people reorganize a paragraph or section to make it read better without bothering to check the sources. In short, please, if in the future you encounter that a ref that doesn't seem to contain a particular fact, try to find another place to put the ref before removing it. Thanks :) —CodeHydro 16:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Fat Head (documentary)

You put the Fat Head (documentary) article up for AFD back in 2009. I recently remade the article however. I read through the objections on the AFD debate and I feel the the factors that resulted in delete votes have changed so that it would pass an AFD that was held today. In the debate it was mentioned that at some future time, the article might pass the notability threshold even though it did not back then. I welcome your input however and, if you feel that I am wrong, feel free to submit it to AFD again. I wanted to give you notice that the article is back, just as a courtesy, since you were the one that originated the AFD last time. Qaz (talk) 04:24, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Oxyhydrogen

Thanks. A very weird situation was it. Last Lost (talk) 01:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

P.S. Could you please properly format the fist line in the disambig page HHO? After this adventure I would not touch the subject with the long pole. Last Lost (talk) 01:43, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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I thought this article/diff may interest you. Shootbamboo (talk) 01:25, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Lot's of loonies out there.... Yilloslime C 18:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

NIU & Carnegie

Good call. Thanks for the edit summary, too. HuskyHuskie (talk) 18:29, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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I see you recently had edits reverted at Pesticides in the United States by Kingofaces43. I agree with you that (1)WP:MEDRS, WP:FRINGE are not policies, and have pointed this out to Koa several times when he has conflated them with policy, and (2)WP:MEDRS, WP:FRINGE are not directly relevant to the information you added, which is based on independent RS coverage, as long as you avoid explicit health claims. In my personal experience, it is best to limit your engagement with Kingofaces43 as much as possible with articles in this area, as he is likely to try to get you blocked for edit warring / violating the agricultural chemicals section of the GMO arbcom case. Rather than argue with him further, I suggest opening a request for comment about your proposed content on the article talk page, to get feedback from other editors.Dialectric (talk) 18:25, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Reverted edits to Michael Gira

Hi! I'm a bit confused about your rationale for reverting my edits to Michael Gira. Could you elaborate further? WP:BLPCRIME shouldn't apply, because Gira is a public figure. Also, the consensus on the talk page was that the allegations should be discussed - the section was removed in opposition to this and WP:WELLKNOWN ("If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it.") --Martey (talk) 01:16, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I not would say there was any sort of consensus on the talk page. All there is one editor asking if the allegations could be mentioned, and another editor saying "As long as you have good sourcing and follow guidelines, I don't see why not." That's not much of a consensus. Then the seection in question was removed without objection, and it remained out for more than year during which time more than a dozen unique editors worked on the page, so I would argue that the current consensus is to keep that section out.
Having said all that, I am not catagorically opposed to mentioning the allegations, so long as they are not given undue weight. The section in question gave way more attention to the allegations than they deserved and featured the controversy in its own subsection. Also, one citation was to Facebook, which is a no no, especially for BLP sensitve material. I'm not sure that stereogum and pitchfork are appropriate sources for this type of material either. Yilloslime (talk) 16:01, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Nicole Maines

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For your information I have requested the reverting/edit war report you made be re-opened as you are continuing to edit war and are not acting in good faith by imposing your preferred version and are not trying to constructively discuss. I would like to additionally point out silence is not acceptance. 91.110.126.179 (talk) 23:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

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California Proposition 6 (2018)

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Nicole Maines

Please do not make unilateral changes which are controversial and opposed. This is not being bold. Please allow discussions to conclude before making changes. Do not impose your own version on the article, it is not constructive and is disruptive. it also goes against trying to build a consensus. 91.110.126.22 (talk) 21:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, right now this just me and you--we really need a third or moreth opinion here. I will say: I have already met you more than half way on this page--you've gotten your way on the use of the word "activist" and the associated category, you've gotten your way with the name of the court case, and while I agree with JDDJS about , I' haven't reverted your revert. It's not that I agree with you on those things--it's that I comprised, in the hope that you might to the same. So far, you haven't. You don't WP:OWN the page; you need to comprise, too, and this would be a good place to start. Sooner or later, someone will notice our dispute and they will see a register user with 10+ years of history on this site, who has already compromised on this page, making arguments based in policy and guidelines and an anonymous IP with a refactored talkpage saying, basically, "I don't like it." Whose arguments do you think will prevail? Yilloslime (talk) 22:53, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
All I want is for you to discuss and engage on the issues. I don't want an edit war. I don't want personal barbs of you are devoid of X, Y, Z. You need to understand this is not a WP:BATTLEGROUND. Which is how you are behaving. Work with other users. read what they have written and engage on the issues. I have consistently taken what you have said including your selective policy dumps. You I feel do not do anything but provide no arguments or rebuttals. I feel you attempt to shout down and act with a battleground mentality. If you continue you will not build a consensus or move forward constructively on Misplaced Pages. please also do not make up warnings for non-existent violations of rules. 91.110.126.22 (talk) 23:05, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Interested users can check out the article history and talkpage and decide for themselves who was being reasonable and who, if anyone, wasn't. I invite anyone watching my talk page to tell me if they think I'm in the wrong here. Having said that, I'm glad we could reach a compromise that we can both live with. Yilloslime (talk) 03:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
I have to take issue with a serious factual error you have made. You have claimed I have "reverted three times in 24 hours". You have failed to notice the difference between general editing and actual reverting. Changes made to different sections or parts of an article. The Revert of JDDJS was pointing out the removal of notable and sourced information. This in wholly unrelated to your unconstructive dump edit. This is almost a carbon copy of you dumping in the word activist and behaving in an incidental manner which was poor then and is poor again. When you know an edit is contentiousness make an edit an an imposition. Allow the discussion to conclude before going on imposition mode you did it regarding branding the article with the word activist and tried to do exactly the same on this latest saga. 91.110.126.22 (talk) 08:40, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

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Why do you insists on a slow burn edit war on the Nicole Maines article. The "compromise" you prefer is not agreed upon and is not discussed. You just like imposing your revision. Please self revert or I will simply report you for the same edit warring behaviour you cannot resist engaging in. 91.110.126.37 (talk) 21:53, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

You cannot simply wait a period of time, and not engage in any discussion and hope that you can sneak your version of the article past everyone without anyone noticing. 91.110.126.37 (talk) 21:56, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hello. Per your edit here, claiming the source 21st Century Science and Technology is banned, can you point me to consensus on this? Is the website blacklisted? I'm not necessarily opposed to the removal, but in some cases citing the magazine may be acceptable per WP:SELFSOURCE. Please strive to ensure that any content removals don't leave gaping holes in articles: it's better to be a wrench than an axe, and the best way to improve questionable content is to find better sources. Thanks, --Animalparty! (talk) 04:47, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Lyndon_LaRouche#Remedies #1. I haven't been super active around here lately, but years ago 21st Century citations were routine scrubbed based on this. I believe it is still in effect. Yilloslime (talk) 17:02, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I think an absolute site ban or all out scrubbing is unwarranted: it depends on the nature of the claim being cited. Citing a biased source need not equal advocacy or propaganda, as the arbitration decision seem to imply. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:28, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Please read the evidence provided which demonstrates inclusion is the current consensus. Removal is the changing of consensus. I suggest if you or anyone else want to remove, they need to make their case. I have set out my position please continue the discussion. Sparkle1 (talk) 00:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Silent Spring

Re . Here's the whole quote from , a secondary source, article from a peer-reviewed journal and I believe it can be used to support the paragraph:

A truly extraordinary variety of alternatives to the chemical control of insects is available. Some are already in use and have achieved brilliant success. Others are in the stage of laboratory testing. Still others are little more than ideas in the minds of imaginative scientists, waiting for the opportunity to put them to the test. All have this in common: they are biological solutions, based on understanding of the living organisms they seek to control, and of the whole fabric of life to which these organisms belong. Specialists representing various areas of the vast field of biology are contributing—entomologists, pathologists, geneticists, physiologists, biochemists, ecologists all pouring their knowledge and their creative inspirations into the formation of a new science of biotic controls

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I hardly think that what Carson was talking about in that passage is akin to modern biotechnology. Traditional selective breeding, sure; agroecology, probably; but biotechnology--or at least what the term commonly is understood to mean today (i.e. GMOs)--I doubt it. The very fact that we can even debate this means it is WP:OR, unless of course there are sources that actually say Carson advocated for "biotechnology". Yilloslime (talk) 22:47, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Well, the linked article says precisely that, so it's our debate on whether Carson meant this or not that is really OR :) Cloud200 (talk) 10:21, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think that's what the article is arguing. Yilloslime (talk) 14:28, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Flag of Grenada

Hi, and thanks for responding there. Bloom6132 wasn't very happy his preferred wording wasn't supported and is now insisting on an even longer version. Any further thoughts? --84.64.236.222 (talk) 06:52, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, I haven't seen you around for a while. I guess it's because the non notable bilateral relations articles creation has really quietened. LibStar (talk) 01:38, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Thanks. Ya I'm not active on wikipedia too much these day. Lately I just use it to procrastinate--like check the watchlist a few times a day for anything interesting. But I'm not actively seeking to contribute nor do have the time to do any heavy lifting, like article creation or expansion. Yilloslime (talk) 03:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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Marshall Islands–Turkey relations

Thanks for picking up the fake references, I suspect this over a range of articles by this article creator (who is permanently banned) that dubious book references are used in bilateral articles. LibStar (talk) 03:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I spot checked a few other articles created by the user, and they all contained similarly bogus refs, in which, for example, an apparently real book is cited, but it was published long before the copyright date listed in the citation and long before the event occurred that it's being cited to support. Yilloslime (talk) 05:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
I almost think that user was an AI bot--the account created so many articles so quickly. I don't think a human--even an expert on the international relations of Turkey--could have worked so fast. And an expert wouldn't have effed up the citations so badly. Except I don't think was advanced enough to do this in 2020, but what do I know? Yilloslime (talk) 06:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Many of these articles came up book reading lists like in Namibia–Turkey relations. LibStar (talk) 08:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Here's another one. Comoros–Turkey relations. LibStar (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
and another one Malawi–Turkey relations. LibStar (talk) 01:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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