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Aye, I've been dodging the conclusion for months. Tweaking the PrisonPlanet.com people kept me in the game, but I can't avoid it anymore: There's just not much Wiki-violatin' vanity-conspiracy-spamology left to delete! I leave it to you all to monitor for the time being -- I'm going on an indefinite Wikibreak, and moving on to more productive enterprises. See you all at the Grove! Cheers to all of you, on both sides of the rabbit hole -- it's been a real pleasure. Call me on the Bat Phone if anything comes up. </font><small><span style="border: 1px solid #F06A0F">]]</span></small><span style="color:#ffffff;"> · </span> 19:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:Sad to see you go. You take care man! It has been an interesting venture with you here. Peace to you good friend. ] <small>]/]</small> 19:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
:You've done work to be proud of. Take care, ] <sup>]</sup> 01:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hey Morton,
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just thought you might like to see this piece on you taken from prisonplanet.com;


You're famous dude!--] (]) 01:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
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Hey Morton! What have you been up to? Been keeping up with the Joneses? ] (]) 02:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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::You go, I'm back. Have fun in the Grove. Say hi to Hilary for me. ;)
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It's dire, Morton. Most dire.--]] 20:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


== Take Two: Request for change in consensus ==
Isn't this getting just a ''little bit'' ]y? I mean, I see no reason why people who self-identify with the "Movement" shouldn't be named, even if it doesn't have "members". &mdash; ] | ] 18:07, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
:But how to we identify those people? Do we, as Wikipedians, just decide who is or isn't in the "movement". If we have reliable sources where people say they are part of something called the "9/11 Truth Movement", then no problem. But absent that, how do we tell? </font><small><span style="border: 1px solid #F06A0F">]]</span></small><font color="#ffffff"> · </font> 18:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)


Take Two: Request for change in consensus. Change title to "Franklin Child Abuse Allegations"
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A number of those seem to be redirecting somewhere. You might update the list. &mdash; ] | ] 16:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


The existing title "Franklin Coverup Hoax" is, in the opinion of many who have commented (Gyrofrog, Awfultin, Wayne, Tom1976, Conexion, Apostle 12), fatally biased. To start out saying that the subject material is a "hoax" is indefensible, especially when that point of view is hardly universal. A specially called county grand jury used the word "hoax;" that is all. And there is ample reason to believe that those who comprised the jury had a vested interest in protecting local people.
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Hello, Regnery's first three books were the "pro-nazi" books <i>In Darkest Germany, </i> by Victor Gollancz <I>The Hitler in Ourselves</I> by Max Picard and <i>The High Cost of Vengeance</i> by Freda Utley. The Regnery family has a long history of White Nationalism and extremistism. It will not be hidden here on Misplaced Pages. Your friend says hi. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">]]</span> 20:22, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
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Orange Mike came up with a suggestion: How about "Franklin Child Abuse Allegations"? Neutral, takes no position regarding "hoax" or "coverup" claims.
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I '''support''' this newly proposed title change and am asking for additional comments at this time from concerned editors. ] (]) 20:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Morton, I found a bunch of new sources discussing the film ] and listed them at ]. Obviously some of this needs to be incorporated into the article, but I think this is more than sufficient to make this one a keeper. Was hoping you could take a look and consider withdrawing your nomination since it now seems to meet the ] criteria you based your AfD vote upon. Or if you still think it should be deleted perhaps you can elaborate on your rationale.--] <small>| ] | ]</small> 21:19, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


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I went through some of the links, and I was interested in how many of the credentialed guys (more than electrical engineer and documentary filmmaker) came from ETH in Switzerland... not unlike Ganser. Is Switzerland becoming the hub for academic trutherism? ] 16:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
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Check out. Now that one took some time to do. The author thinks he's dissing me, but he's actually helping to keep the Tin-Foilers confused. Thank you LonelyVandal15! (or should I just refer to you as your WikipediaReview name, which is InfoBoy. </font><small><span style="border: 1px solid #F06A0F">]]</span></small><font color="#ffffff"> · </font> 15:27, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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:Is that right? So Infoboy created that myspace page...what a creep. But, that figures..about all anyone finds on WR is creeps.--] 15:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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My work here is done

Dude!

Aye, I've been dodging the conclusion for months. Tweaking the PrisonPlanet.com people kept me in the game, but I can't avoid it anymore: There's just not much Wiki-violatin' vanity-conspiracy-spamology left to delete! I leave it to you all to monitor for the time being -- I'm going on an indefinite Wikibreak, and moving on to more productive enterprises. See you all at the Grove! Cheers to all of you, on both sides of the rabbit hole -- it's been a real pleasure. Call me on the Bat Phone if anything comes up.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 19:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Sad to see you go. You take care man! It has been an interesting venture with you here. Peace to you good friend. JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 19:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
You've done work to be proud of. Take care, Tom Harrison 01:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I hope you can be productive. Mujinga (talk) 00:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


Hey Morton, just thought you might like to see this piece on you taken from prisonplanet.com;

You're famous dude!--Cantsi Wontsi (talk) 01:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey Morton! What have you been up to? Been keeping up with the Joneses? SkeenaR (talk) 02:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

You go, I'm back. Have fun in the Grove. Say hi to Hilary for me. ;)
But seriously, I wonder what really keeps you ticking. Do you really believe you did the right thing? &#151; Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (talk) 19:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
In case you ever eventually read this: I didn't know you at the time but you seem to have been doing awesome work. I also borrowed and adapted (and adopted) one of your user boxes, then created another one inspired from material on one of your pages. Who knows, maybe other people will also use them in your memory. I hope you're doing well, —PaleoNeonate11:22, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

The mice have grown bold.

Yes, it's happening again. Eternal vigilance is needed!

It's dire, Morton. Most dire.--Rosicrucian 20:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Take Two: Request for change in consensus

Take Two: Request for change in consensus. Change title to "Franklin Child Abuse Allegations"

"A small group of editors can reach a consensual decision, but when the article gains wider attention, others may then disagree. The original group should not block further change on grounds that they already have made a decision. No one person, and no (limited) group of people, can unilaterally declare that community consensus has changed, or that it is fixed and determined."

The existing title "Franklin Coverup Hoax" is, in the opinion of many who have commented (Gyrofrog, Awfultin, Wayne, Tom1976, Conexion, Apostle 12), fatally biased. To start out saying that the subject material is a "hoax" is indefensible, especially when that point of view is hardly universal. A specially called county grand jury used the word "hoax;" that is all. And there is ample reason to believe that those who comprised the jury had a vested interest in protecting local people.

In the previous section, various editors commented on their support for, or opposition to, a name change to "Franklin Coverup Incident." Those who commented over the space of several days included Sherurcij, PopeFauveXXIII, Wayne, Orange Mike, Apostle12, and Rosicrucian.

Orange Mike came up with a suggestion: How about "Franklin Child Abuse Allegations"? Neutral, takes no position regarding "hoax" or "coverup" claims.

I support this newly proposed title change and am asking for additional comments at this time from concerned editors. Apostle12 (talk) 20:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

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