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			Hi Pc13, first, thanks for the check-up on the page. I do have a quick question: was there a particular reason to remove cell width parameters from the table outside of having driver names underneath each other instead of side by side for races with shared drives?
	Thanks for the new ]! Nice to have you here! --] 14:05, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)
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			: Hey, thanks for the reply... all points you've made are indeed valid and are designed to speed up data entry. My question has had yet another reason, not rooted in self indulgent page visuals. Upon prompting of a few peers in my age-group, I've posted a general note on my user page (User feedback) which may explain my motive for spending the extra time defining such table parameters (tables are not the only feedback I've received since starting to post). Please keep in mind that I'm still new and have a lot to learn about Wiki conventions but I would much appreciate if you had a spare minute to go over the context of the note and let me know your thoughts... Regards, ] (]) 23:42, 4 May 2014 (UTC) (btw, my name is Al)
	:It was nice to see more additions but why remove the &nbsp; tags? They're suggested in the WikiStyle manual... And in³ is preferred to cu.in. Just an FYI.--] 13:36, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
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	::I don't want the bias, but can't ignore that I'm an American of limited experience! I didn't feel good about calling the 860 a road car... The 125 isn't a road car either - good catch! The ] was, though, so its 1995cc V12 is probably the smallest. I assumed someone would know of a larger I4 than the 2.8L Atlas, but I couldn't find one quickly. Thanks for catching it with some larger examples! --] 14:56, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

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	You got me on the most powerful! I was just looking up the Eldorado ETC when you made the Seville STS edit. Nice catch! --] 17:06, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

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	Could you please stop deleting the Suzuki Baleno GTi from the hothatch page? It does indeed exist. And you could have come to the same conclusion simply by using a google query.

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	DNS stands for when a car does not take a a race start. Makes sense. By having Ret listed that mean the driver has actually started in that race and will count a race starts towards the driver race start tally.. The formation lap does not count as a lap at all as it is not added towards the race classification. For when does a driver 'start' a Grand Prix? To my mind he does so only if he is on the grid when the flag drops or light goes green at the final start. Should a driver have failed to compete the formation lap, for instance (as was the case with Prost at Imola in 1991), he cannot truly be said to have started the race. In the case of restarted events such as the British GP in 1986, poor Jacques Laffite certainly did start the race, but this was declared null and void and he was not presented to take the restart, which is the only one that counts. For true official race results is best to get them off www.forix.com as they receive their race results from the officials. Yes I know formula1.com is official but not 100% official in statistics. If you decide to leave it as Ret then you must give all the drivers a race start count!
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	I have spend hours in researching and asking many F1 statistician who are famous and know more on Grand Prix. All the statisian I have contacted and got back told me it is actually DNS not Ret, they also have mention the formula1.com is not very accurate with their race results. The formula1.com is incorrect as listing as ret instead of DNS for 2005-USA. This were the responses from the following people. Renowned F1 statistians, like David Hayhoe or Autosport's Peter Higham agree that all Michelin drivers were DNS in 2005-USA, but consider a RET if a driver didn't made a re-start, for example. That was the common view in the past - no contemporary source listed Lauda as a DNS in 1976-Germany - and they simply ignore the current "null and void" FIA rule. I totally agree to change it as DNS not Ret as they didn't take part on the first lap.

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	Here is a intersting fact. Button will start his 100th race start in the 2005-China race. But according to wikipedia when doing the math by adding all Button race starts it would be his 101st race start in China as Button has been listed as Ret instead of DNS for this year 2005-USA race. Does this make sense to you. That means wikipedia will have an extra race start for all the drivers who have no started in the 2005 USA race have an extra race start which wouldn't be official to the drivers stats.

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	I am trying to help you all to have accurate data on Formula 1 on wikipedia. I DO beleive the formula1.com site doesn't not give out accurate race classifications. As I have been involved with FORIX and autosport.com for many years as my job is to look for incorrect data on their server. ] 04 October 09:36

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	I added a reference for the US ]. That was the first I heard of it myself! As for the Simca engine, it should DEFINITELY be renamed IMHO. I couldn't find the name except for people calling it the "1100" but if that's the name, then that's the name! Thanks! --] 14:57, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

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	== Dauer 962 and Audi pages ==
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	Information I was able to uncover does seem to indicate that the 962 counted for production status, as Dauer was offically recognized as a manufacturer. I think that some serious discussion needs to take place about it's status as a production car.

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	As far as the Audi pages are concerned, thanks for the commendation. I meant to re-add information about European engines but have not been able to dig up much information, I'm in North America and those models were never avaiable here with those engines. Please add whatever information you have, as long as it is accurate.

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	When " == " page breaks are brought in, are the different 'areas' considered different pages, or one entire page? If the latter, then the 500 page is actually still quite 'dirty', and should be refined down to perfection. Likewise, on the first-reference links (as opposed to what I was going with for awhile and will now desist from, giving the flags even on non-links), would not it be most condusive to show the nationality 'when letters are in blue', for viewers possibly interested in which driver is from which country? Granted, at times these matters are written into the work, but as said elsewhere, aren't images easier to process quickly? Just thoughts, for the moment. --] 16:06, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
	: The believe that the same should be done with the Indianapolis 500 page as has been done with Formula One, where at the beginning of the 'History' section, a main-article link to 'History of Formula One' is provided; Indianapolis should have this in the same overall format, and changing complete "==" chapters that are part of that history into bold-sections, so that other areas, such as the nature of the month-long preparation for the race and the proceedures for practice, qualifications and racing can be given. As for the "See also" lists (now up to, in alphabetical order: deaths, pace cars, Rookies of the Year, winners, winning numbers, winning starting positions, winning team owners and IndyCar), the third, fifth, sixth and seventh of which by my own hand, I'm wondering if they seem too in-depth on historical minutae, and thus perhaps better being coupled with said upcoming "History of the Indianapolis 500-Mile Race" page (to use the same phrasing as the "History of Formula One"). Your thoughts?

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	actually most of my recent edits were taken from the ones added by ] the other day, as mentioned on ], which was copied and pasted (from ) over the top of the whole ] article. On checking, i see that this (which is stated as a source on the article page already) is the same as the text from the page you mentioned - i don't know which is the original. It certainly wasn't my intention to make a copyright violation. I know, it's full of mistakes, unencyclopedic in style and i don't like the UK pricing either. I think it has useful info, so stuck it up there, with a quick read through. There's still bits i don't like, and i'm trying to tidy it up, hence my recent edits, but would appreciate any help. Agree with you about mph too. ] 17:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

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			Hi :) From reliable source Racer.com: "Giacomo Mattioli, the team principal of Scuderia Corsa, is going to field a car for Ed Jones in 13 of the 17 races next year using ECR’s equipment, personnel and experience."
	I have made the following corrections to the C-Class page:

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	Excellent work giving more background etc. Would you be able to explain there what a "stressed member" is? I assume it means something like the structure of the engine is critical to making the car itself rigid, but I don't have the mechanical knowledge...thanks! ] 15:39, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

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	you undid some changes on the scarecrow other media section. the show was named the super powers team, saynig fouth season is not being specific enough. I see the points of your changes, i'd like you to edid or improve those paragraphs.--] 02:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
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	I did some more changes to met you in a middle point, pointing some more media.
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	i'dont undertand your last change to "the scarecrow", can you explain me what was so wrong with te paragraph you erased?? my head is hurtin trying to understand what was so wrong...why??--] 09:21, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
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	That’s why I’m asking you. I dunno if you noticed, but I didn’t simply undo your work, I tried to meet you at the middle point. I think you could put a little more about the characters. I’d like to have your view on this point: There is a Batman article, and it has Batman info. And there is a Scarecrow article with Scarecrow info; but there is no article on their relation. You couldn’t talk about the episode “the fear” which is one of the most significant episodes of the Superfriends series, and went where no animated show had gone before: Talk about the Crime Alley, the murder of the Waynes, the personal fears and motifs of Batman and how the Scarecrow was able to manipulate Batman and the police with his weapons. Where else could you talk about that?… Would you like to give it a shot and write it yourself? I could also send you the paragraph and you could edit it and then put it on the page
	About the war, it just is a personal stalker I got myself, he used to be ok, but out of the blue, he started following and messing with me everywhere… Not that I’m not learning a lesson for what I did before, but nobody deserves that. I’d rather avoid the talking about the issue. --] 18:27, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

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	== Audi S4 ==

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	Hi. I'll address each of your points that you wrote to me in your message. 1. If my revision "readded" (restored) incorrect information, then I'll endeavour to correct that based on the subsequent edits to the page. 2. Please take a look at what has been written. I was very precise in my diction. Note the reference to Motortrend -- the information is available for free on their online website. Note the introduction of the second paragraph: I explicitly state "enthusiast community". Note the third paragraph "if historical trends".
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	The section on the upcoming fifth generation sedan does exactly what users have attempted to do for the previous four sections: organize information as best available in as best of fashion as possible to generate a well-functioning article. Merely because the best available information is restricted to small magazine references, historical trends, and Audi S4 mechanic and owner discussions does not imply that there is no currency for writing an article. In fact, it might be a powerful impetus to organize what we know, so as to stimulate further inquiry.

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	I take exception to "this is not an automotive blog". It suggests I think it is. I do not. I think it is an informational article. I would like to understand why you view it as inappropriate to gather and publish data regarding the future of the subject covered by the article. This is a common practice in many different fields -- academic journals, industry publications, subject dossiers in the government, etc. More plainly, it's informative to know the likely future of something.

	Lastly, I'll ask again to please give me the courtesy of an actual discussion, especially, before you attempt to delete an entire section. You're a registered user here. You've clearly done a great deal of useful work on a variety of topics. You should know that that isn't how to operate in the wiki realm.

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	If the article seems US biased, I'd invite you to (as you have been doing) be sure to include non-US information, numerical conversions, etc. I will aid you in this process time permitting, as it isn't that hard to find the relevant info.

	I'm not going to be registering any time soon. I'm what is referred to in wikipedia as an exopedian. See - http://meta.wikimedia.org/Exopedianism.

	Since you so kindly referred me to the ], I would like to similarly refer you to ] under the heading of "anti-elitism as a weakness".

	Point to fact (and I will not elaborate on this, more out of concern for my own neck than anything else) I have a memeber of my immediate family who works for the corporate branch of Audi within North America, although he has certain more global functions given his position. ! The information in that post was, in fact, based on more than just speculation. ! I can understand the general policy which you referred to -- in most cases, it even makes sense. But, you should be mindful of the need for flexibility and the benefits that come from an ability to grasp unique opportunities. Read: insider information is cool to have published ahead of time. (and you're right, there will be variations in the overall dimensions of the Euro / NA sedan if not avant releases for pedestrian laws). You've effectively chased away direct access to substantive info.

	Lastly, any performance statistics which I list for any of the models are based on the .pdf direct copies of the Audi product info sheets which are available in the dealerships at the time of the models release. Keep in mind: informational articles ==> official statistics take precedence, and independent tests should only receive "second billing" beneath the official ones.

	Okay, have a good one.

	== Edited a comment ==

	I just edited your comment under ]; even if people are irritating you, it doesn't help to show you are annoyed in that way. ] 17:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

	== Enemies of Batman ==

	Just ignore T-Man's personal attacks on the talk page, this has escalated enough for one day....--] 05:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

	== Review of Taurus ==

	hi, I submitted the article ] for featured article status, but it failed. I fixed many of the problems told by the users there, and now it is up for peer review, and I am hoping you could review it for me. the discussion can be found ]. --]

	== Car size in ] ==

	I was relying on the definitions in ] and ]. Whereas I understand your point, I don't see why reclassifying the cars according to what they'd be called in Europe would be better. There seems to be a consensus already that the ], ], and ] are full-size and the ], ], and ] are mid-size. ] 13:51, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

	I'd be 100% in favor of including two size classifications on each car page: the European one (A/B/C/D/E/F) and the American one (subcompact/compact/mid-size/full-size) but I'd be against trying to equate European size classes to American names (the Jetta's a C so it's mid-size, etc). ] 14:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

	:"The European cars you're trying to keep alone in full-size segment exist in a very limited market, where size isn't even a consideration, but luxury level is. The F-segment exists solely to cater to the needs of a select group of wealthy individuals."

	I believe that your view is as European-biased as mine is American-biased. The ] is almost 5.4 meters long, which puts it solidly in the European F-segment according to ], but I would never say that it caters to the needs of a select group of wealthy individuals. Even the ] and ], which many Americans would consider mid-size cars, are longer than 5 meters. I'm glad you agree about including both size classifications. I hope there isn't a lot of argument from others. ] 15:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

	== Geo Storm ==

	hi, I was wondering if you could contriblue to the peer review of the Geo Storm? thanks --]

	==Important WikiProject Automobiles Discussion==
	Hello! As a ] member, I just thought you might want to input your opinions on an important discussion we're currently having about whether articles regarding similar vehicles should be merged into one or split by brand. If you would like to comment or read further, please see ]. Thank you in advance for your thoughts and feedback. ] 23:48, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

	==Portal de Portugal==
	Já abriu o ] na Misplaced Pages! Junta-te a nós para trabalharmos em prol de artigos, listas e imagens relacionadas com Portugal. No portal, encontrarás um artigo geral, um artigo biográfico, um artigo geográfico e uma imagem todas as semanas em destaque. Para além disso estão apresentadas também secções de Notícias, Curiosidades, Listas, Citações, ''Opentasks'', informação sobre artigos recentes, etc. Futuramente teremos um WikiProject para geografia de Portugal (de modo a estandardizar todos os artigos relativos às localidades e divisões administrativas portuguesas), história de Portugal, biografias, e possivelmente desporto. Também temos em vista a criação de uma Colaboração Semanal para artigos sobre Portugal. Por isto, e tudo mais, pedimos-te que venhas ajudar-nos. Estamos também à procura de colaboradores, por isso, se estiveres interessado, é só pedires que já estás no grupo de manutenção do portal. Saudações! ] 19:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	A watered-down version of the proposed policy against censorship is now open for voting. Will you kindly review the policy and make your opinions known? Thank you very much.] 18:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

	== Opel timeline ==

	Sure, send it on and I'll give it a shot. --] 01:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
	{{Template:Opel}}
	:Thoughts? --] 19:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

	Pc13 (and Steve too), I appreciate the great amount of meticulous work you put into developing this timeline. Nevertheless, I believe this resulted in something really busy and cumbersome, much harder to use as a navigation tool than the previous template. To somebody not really into Opels (and these are the people we write those articles for, don't we?), K/A/D or Admiral/D won't say much and might be confusing, given all the Corsa A B C Ds and stuff.

	Please consider developing the timeline as a separate article, not constrained by template requirements. Thanks. --] 19:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

	PS. Don't get me wrong - I could imagine myself doing something similar too, and being proud of its completeness and correctness, but I think user convenience has the right of way here.

	:Bravada and Pc13 - thanks for the feedback. I didn't really know these cars at all so I messed up the coupe and roadster bit... As for splitting it, I'm all for it since it will conserve space and make it less visually cluttered, though it will remain as tall as it is. I'll take a stab at that today. --] 13:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

	::OK, here they are split and massaged:
	<nowiki>{{Template:Opel timeline}}</nowiki>
	{{Template:Opel timeline}}
	<nowiki>{{Template:Classic Opel timeline}}</nowiki>
	{{Template:Classic Opel timeline}}
	::Thoughts? --] 14:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

	::Thanks for considering my suggestions. I let myself correct some formatting stuff in the "later" template, class designations as well as added LCVs, Prototypes and the unfortunate Blitz. Let me add that I really appreciate your work and the pride you take in designing your templates.<br>
	::Still, I believe it should be reconsidered whether we really need to replace the template with a timeline, for the following reasons:
	::* Even after splitting and "cleaning up", the template itself remains rather busy and IMHO is not as clear and concise as the previous non-timeline template, perhaps due to the limitations of the WikiTable and convention chosen
	::* These timelines take into account only Opel and only in main markets - remember that most modern Opel models were also sold under many other brands - preparing templates for all brands and markets could be very time-consuming, not to mention that the size of templates would exceed the size of articles in many cases
	::* A large number of models are present on both timelines, so it will lead to what is the case with Renaults - two very large templates under one article
	::I think I thought of something more but I forgot it. I will expand the list once my mid-term memory recovers :p
	::Let me repeat - a timeline like that is a very useful and important source of information, but I believe it should be a separate article, and perhaps done using less constraining means.--] 18:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
	::PS. Steve, you have inserted Pc's user page into my talk page, I believe it was by mistake, so I corrected your message to what I think you meant. I hope I didn't do anything wrong.
	::PS2. Pc13, I want to apologize for using your talk page as a discussion forum on those templates, but there are so many pages where we can discuss them now that I believe it would be best to keep it all in one place.

	== ] (the band) ==

	I noticed you removed DreamWorks Records from the list of labels on the Propellerheads page.
	If Decksanddrumsandrockandroll was released under DWR shouldn't it be included? They may have released their EPs and such on WoS (and the original "Decks") but when they re-released it under DWR it had a different tracklist and added vocals on Oh Yeah?, so it does have some important value to it, even if it didn't have as much importance as WoS did to get the Props off the ground and into the scene.
	Maybe it could be listed underneath WoS with something that says it was sold and is no longer in operation? I mean, it should get some credit.
	And yes, I was the one who made that original change. -'']''

	: Okay, I see...but the fact that they licensed Decks to DWR seems like enough to be important...I mean, it's how I was able to buy the album in the first place, and probably the same for many people. ] 07:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

	:: Ah, well that makes a bit more sense. I'm not very technically skilled when it comes to different infobox type things, and I'm not even sure one is very necessary, as long as it's quite clear that Decks was also released on DWR. So, this is cleared up, or am I missing something? -] 08:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

	::: Added an infobox. ] Maybe you'd be better at filling in the correct credentials. Thanks for clearing this up. -] 08:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

	:::: Thanks for cleaning up that infobox. ] 03:29, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

	== Previously Deleted Comment ==

	I think it is pretty immature of you to delete the comments I earlier left in this section. Just because someone disagrees with you! Clearly sir, you are in the wrong on this issue. If you'll recall back from January, I admitted when I was wrong and I substantially revised the article. That's a sign of maturity. Deleting non-vulgar, non-threatening discussion comments is a sign of immaturity. Trying to prevent multiple sources of info on the new S4 from appearing on the page is a sign of immaturity.

	However, this is 'your page' so I won't protest any further. If you feel a need to delete my comments here, then so be it.

	:: Please leave the page alone for the time being. I've posted comments now at ] as well as ]. I'm assuming that people are going to investigate the page. If necessary, we can pursue this to mediation and then arbitration, although I'm hoping that this doesn't become necessary.

	== AfDs ==

	I assume it is a simple over site, but when putting a article up for deletion you should place the AfD notice on the page in question as out lined by ] as for the page ], I have placed the notice on the page for you. With out the notice it could be seen as a non-valid nomination and in some cases a bad faith nomination. --]] 10:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

	== F1 portal featured article ==

	The F1 portal (in which I assume you have some degree of interest, as your name is listed on ]) is intended to have a regular rotation of a 'featured article'. I've swapped a few in and out over the last couple of months, but I think it would be better if there were more of a community attempt at deciding this, proposals, votes, that kind of thing. So - why not pop over to ] and make a suggestion. Ta. ] 00:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


	== Selected articles on Portal:F1 ==

	Hello again.

	I dropped notes round a while back to those who have listed themselves at ] to ask for suggestions for selected articles on ]. There was a pretty good response, both in terms of how it might work and of articles suggested. ] came out with the most support and was brought up to ] standard after a lot of work by ] and others before going on as the F1 portal selected article a couple of weeks ago. It is now at ] as a Featured Article candidate (why not drop by and see if you can help polish it further?).

	Several people who responded to the original request suggested that a monthly or bi-weekly 'Selected Article' could act as a catalyst for an improvement drive to get more articles up to a higher standard. Although it wasn't quite what I had in mind when I started, this seemed to work pretty well for the Damon Hill article, so I've drafted up a process for doing this more regularly. See ] for details. Essentially the suggestion is that we vote for an article to improve every couple of weeks and at the end of the improvement process the article goes on the portal as the new 'Selected Article'. I'd be grateful for any comments on how this might work - I'm sure some of you are more familiar with things 'Wiki' than me - as well as your votes for the next candidate (by 16 July).

	You may also want to help with the article ], which was the next most popular after Damon Hill. The idea is to try and get it up to GA standard by 16 July and then put it on the portal as the 'Selected Article'. I hope you can help! ] 18:18, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

	== Mitsubishi Pajero ==

	You removed an image for the first generation Mistusibishi Pajero off the page and provided no edit summary. I would appreciate an explanation for this, thanks. (it may well be that there was some sort of mistake on the description but in that case, wouldn't it be a better idea correcting instead removing?) Regards, ]] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 22:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
	:I had to delete the original image. I don't own the car and the owner wasn't happy (well, better not to piss off your ex, long story...) I uploaded an alternative one. Unfortunately, I took this one with my mobile phone camera and the quality is not very good. Regards, ]] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 07:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
	::I should've realised considering the registration letter. We're better off removing it from the article. I'm keeping an eye out for a Mk I. Thanks for letting me know. ]] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 23:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

	Yes, you're right. It was sold from around 1998 as Mitsubishi Galloper Exceed. Then in May 2000, the Super Exceed was released (not really sure but I reckon they stop selling them in 2003). And the LWB variant was also sold (though it was extremely rare, sort of 6 to 1, according to my brother who atill lives in Spain). Cheers, ]] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 17:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

	== ] ==
	What is it about the Volvo S80 article that does not represent a world wide view? To me it looks like hard facts only. --] 10:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

	== WikiProject Sports Car Racing ==

	Due to your involvement in some Wiki pages that regard sports car racing of some sort, I would like to ask for you to look into the proposed ]. Any help you may have to offer to the project will be greatly appreciated. ] 03:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
	:This is an update to inform you that ] has finally been launched. Please feel free to browse the project page, add anything you wish to offer, and help in getting the project off the ground. The shortcut to the project page is ]. ] 02:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Audi A3 Revert ==

	Apologies for the blind revert. '''=)''' –- ]\| ]·</sup><sup>]</sup></font> 21:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	Hi Pc13. I saw you have volunteered to serve as a reviewer on the French Cars Task Force. The reviewing scheme will probably take a considerable amount of time to start functioning, as we still need standards etc. and the whole issue does not advance too much as I guess I am the only one really pushing for it and only Gerd expressed his interest as of now. Still, I hope you are interesting in French cars, as there is some editing support needed, actually.

	Namely, I am currently working on Simca articles, and I have even managed to get a few people to help with some articles. The most advanced, currently, is probably the ], which was even actually promoted to Good Article (though I believe this was a bit "in advance"). There is still some work that needs to be done about it, and one missing part is the history of the model in Brasil (and of Simca do Brasil in general, as Vedette-derived models seem to have been all that they manufactured). There are some informative (I presume) sources on that, but they are all in Portuguese. Those two sources seem to be pretty comprehensive:
	# http://www.simca.com.br (might be down, so perhaps it could be accessed via the ])
	# http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/ph2/175a.htm (this is about ] and ] in general, but later on there is a link to the article on the Brazilian history, and perhaps you could see whether this adds anything to what is already said about the European history of those models)

	Thanks in advance for considering devoting some of your precious time to that :D Regards, ], ] - 21:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

	== ] question ==

	I'm just curious what your source is on some things regarding your corrections to the 1999 Le Mans page. From what I've found, Estoril Racing Communications is Portugeuse, as seen here , yet listed as French here . Both pages however list Michel Monteiro as Portugeuse and not French (I believe I listed him as French by mistake when I originally wrote the page).

	If you have any sources that say otherwise, it'd be great to see them. ] 21:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
	:Upon further looking, I've found that Estoril Racing also ran in 1998, and in this picture there is a clear flag of Portugal on the side of the door. Did they change their team's national representation from 1998 to 1999, or something else? ] 21:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

	== FIA GT Race Naming Scheme ==

	I noticed that you've taken over adding results for previous years of FIA GT, which I appreciate as it would have taken me forever to do it myself. Just a minor thing though, is that I believe a better naming scheme would be similar to the one I used for the 2006 races: 'Year' FIA GT 'Track' 'Distance' I think that when we go back into FIA GT further, it'll make things more even since they didn't always use the name "Supercar" as part of the race title. Having "2005 FIA GT Championship Magny-Cours 500km" just seems more logical a title. Although, granted, I probably shouldn't have used "Tourist Trophy" for the Silverstone round, since it goes against the scheme... ] 21:55, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
	:Actually, now that I look at it, I'm the one who put "Supercar" in the page title links on the ] page. My fault. I still think we should change them to not include the word Supercar though. ] 22:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

	==Wikiproject Automobiles Notification==
	Hi Pc13, you were on the list of members at ] and we are introducing a new way of listing members, as the old list was becoming too long. Our new method involves having all of our members in a category.

	To add yourself to the category just add the userbox to your user page by putting '''<nowiki>{{</nowiki>]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>''' where you want the userbox. Alternatively if you don't like the userbox you can add '''<nowiki>]</nowiki>''' to your userpage.

	If you no longer wish to be a member of the project, simply don't add the userbox or category, there's no pressure. Thanks for your time, ]<sup>] \| ]</sup> 04:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	==]==
	*If you are receiving this message, you are currently listed as a member of ]. We need more active members at ]. So please tell your friends who like electronic music and are willing to put in hours writing about it. If there are any suggestions for features for this Wikiproject I will help out with them and see what I can do. Please add any projects you are working on to the list - I will gladly help out with them as best I can. Since the original project founder has been MIA for 9 months or so, I'm declaring myself pseudo-king and cheerleader of this Wikiproject. Basically, that probably means that I'm just going to do the most work related to this project for now. Please tell your wiki real-life friends who are interested in electronic music about this wikiproject! We need active members! ] 11:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	Hi. I just spotted the makings of a great article on your sandbox! I was just wondering whether you were planning to take it further? ] 22:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

	:Yes, I reckon with a few proper tweaks that could be GA in no time! Nice one. ] 20:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

	== Ascari A410 = Lola T92/10? ==

	I noticed while going through the ] article recently that you had added a note that the Ascari A410s were modified Lola T92/10s. However, after researching the article on the ], I'm not quite sure if this is true. I do agree they look very similar, however as far as I know only three T92/10s were built (with a possible fourth), and two of them were still racing at the time of the A410. Yet I know at least two A410s existed, so I have to wonder, where you got this information that the A410 is based on the T92/10 and what exactly their relation is. ] 20:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

	==Request for Comment==
	There's been a Request for Comment initiated at ] over style and content issues between two versions of ], one by ], the other by ].

	You're a regular and diligent contributor to WikiProject Comics and to the Whizzer article, and so might be a knowledgeable and disinterested party who could add an informed opinion. --] 13:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


	Indeed the Ascari were modified T92/10s, this straight from the designer of the 92/10 who was also responsible for their conversions to Acari LMPs, Wiet Hudikoper.

	== 1000km Suzuka ==

	Were there two 1000km races at Suzuka in 1989? The World Sportscar Championship ran there in April, with a Sauber-Mercedes winning, but your list has a Porsche 962 winning. ] 16:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
	:Scratch that, I just realized looking over results that I made a mistake in making the ] page, in that the Suzuka round was 480km, not 1000km. I've fixed it now. ] 16:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Lola ==

	I originally had the T332CS/T333CS on the sportscar template, but I deleted since as you point out it's a modified open wheel car. I'm actually not sure of what to think of modified open wheel cars that ran in Can Am or for that matter, Interserie. I had a similar debate last night about whether or not to include Interserie in ] since they allowed Group C cars, but I don't think they were the same regulations.

	The T88/40 is in the same boat, although the /40 part of the designation would seem to make it appear as a predecessor LMP/SR.

	I'd say that, if anything, just leave them off of any chart since they are such unique vehicles (especially the B01/70 MG). Articles can eventually exist on them, but I think with sheer number of Lola articles that are theoretically possible, it might be ok to have four or five cars that don't have a template at the bottom.

	My gut feeling is that honestly neither you or I nor anyone else will ever get around to making pages for these rare cars from minor series at the time. This is partly why I left Sport 2000 off of the sports car template. ] 22:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Changes to chassis links ==

	Hi Pc13. I notice you're changing lots of chassis links in F1 driver pages to remove the link to the constructor, e.g. changing <nowiki>"] ]" to just "]"</nowiki>. We deliberately structured the chassis links that way so that if there wasn't an article for the specific chassis, you could still click on the constructor link. See discussion ] -- ] 08:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

	Also, in the entrant column, where an entrant name has been piped to soemthing very similar, e.g. <nowiki>"]"</nowiki>, again that is usually deliberate; the name on the right-hand side of the pipe is how the entrant appeared on the official entry list. ] 08:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

	==Opinion Requested==
	Hi, I'd like to hear you opinion on the following debate. (]) -- ] 04:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

	== P32T ==

	First, I remember now that 3.6L i snot the turbocharging limit on LMP1s, I had forgotten the 4.0L Bentleys. Second, I guess I must have missed this somewhere, but where did you see that Chamberlain-Synergy changed to a 4.0L engine? I know the P32T was expandable, but I had yet to hear of anyone doing anything but the 3.6L layout. ] 18:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

	== CZR ==

	I've restored the article to ], so you can work on it. Please do add sources, but also make it more encyclopedic in tone--see ], one of our core policies. You can move it back to article space once it's in good shape. Thanks. ] 15:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

	==Huh?==
	Hey buddy, if you are not a member of a wikiproject, why are you removing their banners? Wikiprojects can ID the talk pages of any articles they want; since their goal is to improve articles you shouldn't care. If you disagreed with all those banners, why didn't you contact the wikiproject's adminstrator with your concern? ] 04:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
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	==Cosworth Duratec Engine==
	I saw that you changed the Atlantic engine section to refer to the Mazda engine. The reason why I used the Ford reference is that Cosworth sources their Duratec crate engines directly from Ford. I am however fine with either reference and will not change it back. ]

	==]==

	PC13, I see you created the ]. I'm having a dispute with another editor on utilizing the Marvel name in the infobox in the ] article . The magazine was clearly published under the Curtis logo rather then Marvel. My question to you is: Do you have any references about the history of Marvel and its imprint Curtis that you stated in your article? I am using some of the information you utilized in your article but I would like a reference so that I can defend it if necessary. Specifically about Marvel's strategy of utilizing an imprint name for its more mature B+W magazines. I know this seems very logical but there are other out there that need hand holding through every step. Thanks ] 12:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

	== Don't blame "Americans" ==

	I took mild exception to your to what "Americans have trouble grasping". This kind of comment does not raise the level of discourse, and risks offending other editors. I happen to be an American (not that this should matter to anyone on Misplaced Pages), but this has little do with what I can or cannot grasp. Yes, we need to be sure we're writing for a worldwide audience, but we surely don't need to insult people from a particular country in order to accomplish this. ] ] 19:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

	== Boss AC's real name ==

	Hello Pc13... can you please tell me what is the source from which you got the info that ]'s real name is Arménio Costa? Thanks, ] 12:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
	:Ok, é assim: foi um IP que adicionou essa informação na pt:wp. Após alguma investigação, vim a saber que o nome dele é na verdade Ângelo César (tenho fontes para isso no artigo em português, que, aproveito para dizer, está cada vez mais completo :D depois passa por la e diz o que achas). Coloquei o restante do conteúdo desse parágrafo em comentário, até arranjar fontes, já que não parece ser informação fiável. Vou alterar aqui na en:wp o nome real dele. Só não o fiz antes, apesar de ter a certeza, para não ter problemas contigo :) Abraços, e boas contribuições! ] 19:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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British Empire Trophy

Hi Pc13, first, thanks for the check-up on the page. I do have a quick question: was there a particular reason to remove cell width parameters from the table outside of having driver names underneath each other instead of side by side for races with shared drives? Regards, MotorOilStains (talk) 19:05, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the reply... all points you've made are indeed valid and are designed to speed up data entry. My question has had yet another reason, not rooted in self indulgent page visuals. Upon prompting of a few peers in my age-group, I've posted a general note on my user page (User feedback) which may explain my motive for spending the extra time defining such table parameters (tables are not the only feedback I've received since starting to post). Please keep in mind that I'm still new and have a lot to learn about Wiki conventions but I would much appreciate if you had a spare minute to go over the context of the note and let me know your thoughts... Regards, MotorOilStains (talk) 23:42, 4 May 2014 (UTC) (btw, my name is Al)

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Renault S.A. - article about Renault marque

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	Renault S.A. is an article about Renault marque! Renault S.A. IS NOT a redirect to groupe renault! Matvei Gromov (talk) 07:15, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

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