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It was recommended I file an RFCU here to shed light on the situation by ]. See also ]. ] (]) 15:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:{{Clerk-Note}} Request was previously listed at "/Case/Iantresman (second request)"; now merged. ] 15:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

*The IP belongs to {{user|Soupdragon42}}. Ian's IP is {{unrelated}}. ] 16:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
**Soupdragon42 has also used the sockpuppet {{user|Ski fan}}. ] 16:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
***There is an entire forum of Ian Tresman allies angry at my activity at Misplaced Pages: . Soupdragon, it turns out, is one of the names of one of the members there other than Iantresman. ] (]) 16:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
***I am going to block the main account for two weeks to discourage further harassment, and I will indef the other sock puppet account with a soft block. There is no legitimate reason to operate a second account. It only serves to evade scrutiny. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


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{{unnecessary}}. These have all been since blocked by Raul, along with he IP. I think the matter is resolved. ]·] 23:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC) {{unnecessary}}. These have all been since blocked by Raul, along with he IP. I think the matter is resolved. ]·] 23:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


** Actually, ] has never been blocked. ] 06:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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:Thanks. Leokor is {{unrelated}}. ]·] 05:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I apologize to Leokor. ] 05:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Apology accepted. --] 14:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. Still, I have some questions regarding this case. Neither Applecola nor Tsyko had been blocked prior to the request. CheckUser was filed, presumably, in order to find evidence to block them. CheckUser was not performed on them. And they are now blocked. I hope I'm misreading this. --] 14:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::In my opinion, the objective evidence of such a CheckUser would avoid giving the impression that one side of the plasma cosmology/mainstream vendetta has once again outmuscled the other. ] 20:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Is this how you see it, then? So the matter was somehow already decided, and you wanted to maintain appearance? And here's me thinking that objective evidence is the only kind of evidence there can be, of which you had, and still have, none at all. --] 03:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Answered on Leokor's user page. ] 04:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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:{{RFPP|b}}: The contribs make it obvious that this is a throwaway account created to participate in the discussions surrounding Iantresman, and is almost certainly one of Ian's sockpuppets. I've blocked it indefinitely; I don't know that checkuser is necessary in a case like this, though I'll leave that up to the powers that be. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 21:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC) :] '''User(s) ]'''.<!-- Template:RFPP#bloc -->: The contribs make it obvious that this is a throwaway account created to participate in the discussions surrounding Iantresman, and is almost certainly one of Ian's sockpuppets. I've blocked it indefinitely; I don't know that checkuser is necessary in a case like this, though I'll leave that up to the powers that be. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 21:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::At the very least, Girls4girls is a meatpuppet of Iantresman--I still believe the checkuser should be run for a definitive answer as to whether it's a sock or just a meatpuppet. ]] 22:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC) ::At the very least, Girls4girls is a meatpuppet of Iantresman--I still believe the checkuser should be run for a definitive answer as to whether it's a sock or just a meatpuppet. ]] 22:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:{{Inconclusive}} -- all edits were on open proxies, which I've blocked, but there's no way to tie them to Iantresman. --]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 22:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC) :{{Inconclusive}} -- all edits were on open proxies, which I've blocked, but there's no way to tie them to Iantresman. --]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 22:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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Iantresman apparently used Applecola as a sockpuppet, and borrowed the account of Leokor (a real person), both to evade his ban. The evidence has been documented at ]. ] 01:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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Iantresman (second request)

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Filed: 15:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It was recommended I file an RFCU here to shed light on the situation by User:Jehochman. See also Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Iantresman. ScienceApologist (talk) 15:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 Clerk note: Request was previously listed at "/Case/Iantresman (second request)"; now merged. Anthøny 15:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


Iantresman

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Filed: 19:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Code letter: F

Iantresman apparently used Applecola as a sockpuppet, and borrowed the account of Leokor (a real person), both to evade his ban. The evidence has been documented at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Iantresman. Art LaPella 01:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

no Unnecessary. These have all been since blocked by Raul, along with he IP. I think the matter is resolved. Dmcdevit·t 23:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Blocked since when, and on what grounds? If someone filed a CheckUser request, that does not automatically constitute guilt on our parts. Innocent until proven guilty. The conclusions of the archived discussion Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Iantresman state that there is no strong reason to think that Applecola and myself are sockpuppet. The CheckUser request was filed on the thinnest of evidence, and I was eagerly anticipating the results. In fact, I find it insulting to suggest, with the full knowledge and proof of me being a real person distinct from Ian Tresman (moreover, residing on, and connecting, traceably, from a different continent), that I would allow anyone to borrow my account--as if I couldn't speak for myself! This blocking is entirely ungrounded. I hope that it's a sincere mistake and does not represent an indirect attempt to use a CheckUser request to decide the matter against us without even doing it, where a true and unbiased check would definitely prove us innocent. --Leokor 02:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
      • I personally have no evidence that you have ever done anything wrong. I was correcting a misstatement by Dmcdevit in which he said that you had been blocked. Right now I am not advocating any action except running the CheckUser, which is apparently what you want too. Cardamon 04:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Leokor is Red X Unrelated. Dmcdevit·t 05:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I apologize to Leokor. Art LaPella 05:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Apology accepted. --Leokor 14:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Still, I have some questions regarding this case. Neither Applecola nor Tsyko had been blocked prior to the request. CheckUser was filed, presumably, in order to find evidence to block them. CheckUser was not performed on them. And they are now blocked. I hope I'm misreading this. --Leokor 14:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, the objective evidence of such a CheckUser would avoid giving the impression that one side of the plasma cosmology/mainstream vendetta has once again outmuscled the other. Art LaPella 20:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Is this how you see it, then? So the matter was somehow already decided, and you wanted to maintain appearance? And here's me thinking that objective evidence is the only kind of evidence there can be, of which you had, and still have, none at all. --Leokor 03:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Answered on Leokor's user page. Art LaPella 04:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Iantresman

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Filed: 19:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Code letter: G

Iantresman was indefblocked by Tom harrison based on mounting evidence at a community ban discussion. Iantresman weighed in twice at this discussion (, ) before being blocked.

Girls4girls' only edits since his/her account was created were:

  1. A comment on an RfAR Iantresman opened against FeloniousMonk ()
  2. Comment on the community ban discussion ()

Blueboy96 19:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

User(s) blocked.: The contribs make it obvious that this is a throwaway account created to participate in the discussions surrounding Iantresman, and is almost certainly one of Ian's sockpuppets. I've blocked it indefinitely; I don't know that checkuser is necessary in a case like this, though I'll leave that up to the powers that be. MastCell 21:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
At the very least, Girls4girls is a meatpuppet of Iantresman--I still believe the checkuser should be run for a definitive answer as to whether it's a sock or just a meatpuppet. Blueboy96 22:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 Inconclusive -- all edits were on open proxies, which I've blocked, but there's no way to tie them to Iantresman. --jpgordon 22:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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