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==Merge Analog signal and Analog circuit== |
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After reading the articles on ]s and ]s, there seems to be a lot of material in common. In fact they seem to have so much in common it seems to be a good idea to merge them all here, and treat what minor differences there are in separate sections within this article. ] 11:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:I disagree. The conceptual analog signal is not the same as an analog circuit. If anything, the "Analogue signals" section should be dumped into ]. ] 07:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC) |
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::I wasn't implying they were the same thing, merely that the articles had the same content, (practically word-for-word in some parts). Given that "Analogue Signals" and "Analogue Circuits" are the essence of analogue electronics I suggested they were merged, otherwise I'm not sure what the "Analogue Electronics" article would contain that wasn't in one of the other two...? ] 08:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC) |
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difference between analogue and digital electronics ] (]) 05:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC) |
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:::Links to the other articles and cut out the duplicated information. ] should not discuss analog signals: ] should do that. ] 22:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Needs cleanup - windy generalizations such as "Analogue circuits are several times faster than their digital counterparts." are effectively meansingless - what's the analog counterpart of a ROM? On my to-do list, if no-one beats me to it. --] 18:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Analog VS Analogue == |
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A search on www.].com gives over 85 Million results for "Analog", but only 27.2 Million results for "Analog'''''ue'''''". Also, the page for ] shows 16 entries with the spelling "Analog", and only two with "Analogue". Given that "Analog" is the more common spelling, and closer to the ] (''ana'' + ''logos'') as well, can this page be moved to "Analog Electronics", and the spelling within its sub-sections be changed from "analogue" to "analog"? ] 21:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Comments by ] 11:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC): |
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I agree with changing the spelling of the title from "analogue" to "analog". I have never seen it spelled "analogue" before, and I think this indicates that most people spell it "analog". If I remember to, I will try to move the article within a few days if that's okay with everybody. |
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:NO, it's not OK. See ]. The article was started in British English, so should be left that way. ] 16:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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==Merge proposal== |
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Between ] and ]; The former seems to be a subset of the content (or should-be content) of the latter. ] 15:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''' – There's no need for new analog device article. Just redirect it over here and advise the author to merge anything he feels this article is missing. ] 16:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC) |
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I think it will be an excellent idea to merge ] into ]. It doesn't make any sense to keep two related topics separate! Especially when one is a part of the other!] 03:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC) |
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Circuits are, of course, combinations of devices, and circuit design is a separate discipline from device design. Separate articles are required for the two subjects of analog devices and analog circuits. In addtion, signals are separate again from circuits, which process signals. ] 17:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:I can understand separating devices, circuits, and signals. But then what is the role of "analog electronics"? ] 18:37, 27 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:: Analog electronics refers to circuits containing transistors, while "analog circuits" refers to a somewhat more general subject that deals with all types of circuit that handle continuously variable signals, in contrast to "digital circuits" that deal with "0" and "1" voltage levels. The design approach to analog electronics is very different from that used for digital electronics, and so the two subjects deserve separate treatment.] 18:54, 27 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::: Actually for a good part of the 20th century analog electronic circuits contained no transistors or integrated circuits at all. See ], for instance. --] 19:33, 27 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Accurate statement: I am historically challenged. A better statement about electronic circuits is that they include nonlinear devices, that is, they include things other than resistors, capacitors and inductors. Transistors and vacuum tubes are such nonlinear devices.] 17:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I guess I sort of get that; if there are no electronic devices in a circuit it can still be an analog circuit; but in that case, why not just call it a circuit? |
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::::Calling a circuit "analog" conveys some information about the type of signals it is intended to work with. |
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:::Similarly with devices. A device such as a transistor or a vacuum tube is not inherently analog or digital; it's a device that can be used in either analog or digital electronics. |
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::::It is true that some devices are ambidextrous. I'd vote with you on this one, and simply hope that articles on individual devices might point out their different modes of operation and differences in design design details that vary with the application.] 17:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::So can someone spell out exactly what set of articles they are proposing, and roughly the scope of each? |
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:::The present ] article is mostly about system-level things, not device-level things; does that make sense to keep, or merge it here? ] 20:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Your question is certainly the bottom line. I'd suggest individual device articles (of which many already exist), and circuit articles. In the device category we have, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/Transistor which has links to many special articles. That is a good arrangement, and can cover the device aspects. From the circuit standpoint we have http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Analog_circuits that has links to many relevant articles. Unfortunately the lead article "Analogue electronics" is a very poor overview of this category, and one searching for guidance to the Category:Analog_circuits will not find it here, which in my view should be the role of this article.] 17:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::I am confused about the organization of Misplaced Pages. There exists a "category" electronics http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Electronics with a "Main Article" electronics http://en.wikipedia.org/Electronics which includes a section called "Analog Electronics" that refers to a "Main Article" called Analog Circuits, that links to this entry "Analogue Electronics". For consistency and clarity I'd suggest that the article "Analogue Electronics" be deleted in its entirety and replaced with an appropriate article "Analog Circuits" that would serve as an intro to the articles in the category http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Analog_circuits.] 18:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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== Merger ideas == |
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There seems to be two discussions going on in this forum. Analog vs Analogue and device vs electronics. Analog is the more widely used term (e.g. analog devises, the IC chip manufacturer) and should be the main topic with a paragraph about the origin of the word. Also Analog circuits should be merged with Analog Devices they describe the same thing. I believe the title should be Analog Electronics which is the more accurate description and to not give free advertising to the manufacturer Analog Devices. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The spelling issue should be omitted here; it's taken care of by ]. ] 03:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC) |
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::I support the view that "Analog is the more widely used term (e.g. analog devises, the IC chip manufacturer) and should be the main topic"] 17:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Sure, that's fine, the American spelling is more widely used than the British. But did you look at ]? ] 17:25, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I think this issue transcends the notion of spelling variation among English users. For example, I have on my shelf "Analog Design Essentials" from Belgium, "Analog Design Centering and Sizing" from Germany,etc. Moreover, all technical meetings world wide use Analog. Thus, from the viewpoint of international usage "analog" is the common term, and amounts to a technical term rather than a common English adjective, regardless of its origin in USA.] 17:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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