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I am here for some very limited purposes, because some people have asked me to help in some specific cases. I am prepared to do this. I am not intending to be here much, at present. I have not yet decided whether to start using this account actively again. No, I don't want to talk about any of the foregoing, thanks, the people concerned know who they are and how to get hold of me. This is about some ongoing unresolved issues being discussed on one or more mailing lists, when that debate comes to fruition I will take a view. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 12:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

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== ]! Are you still out there? ==
== Cypri ==
<!-- ] 09:57, 15 January 2032 (UTC) -->{{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|1957773473}}

Hi ]! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
We may have another problem related to that issue, and articles that link there. Next time we're both on IRC, remind me, and I'll explain. ] 00:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

== Have you returned? ==

Just wondering. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 01:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:Pending JzG's answering the question himself, you might be interested in the note he put on the top of this page. ] 03:42, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::Uh huh, I missed the strike through. That's subtle, but good :) So that means he's back. Hopefully, he kicks some butt of various POV-warriors. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 04:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::The text under the large print is also of relevance. ] 04:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)



== Could you enable your email? ==

I'd like to get in touch privately. ] 23:34, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
* Done, not that it is hard to find. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:37, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks (didn't know where else to look, sorry!). ] 23:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I've sent you an email. ] 23:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

== A Question on article history ==

Greetings. With reference to ], you have "removed unsigned post...by banned user." I haven't looked at the post content links and have no opinion on removing the post - however, when paging through the change history, it looks an awful lot like I am the user you are reverting, it is my name shown on the edit before yours. Your summary makes clear that you are killing an unsigned post but on the face of it, I was the last one to edit the page.

Are you using sysop tools? Is there a hole in the way WP handles admin actions? I know I didn't make that post yet the browser seems to be telling me I did. ????

Thanks ] 12:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
* No, it wasn't you. And no I'm not using sysop tools. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 12:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

OK thanks, good to know. Can you explain what it was you did that leaves me apparently holding the bag? That hasn't happened to other editors when I've reverted pages. At least as far as I can tell - am I missing something? ] 11:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

== Barnstar! ==

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==Thanks==
Am aware of what you are up to (re BADSITES and good luck), good to see you back and take care, ] 20:35, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
* BADSITES is a dead duck, there are a few active WR posters who post gigabytes of junk every time a link is removed from anywahere. What I'm working on is in response to several long and incredibly detailed discussions about harasment, the way harassers, stalkers and abusers "spread the meme" and suck in new, unsuspecting victims, and ways we can make sure that we only have to have each drama once. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 20:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:Good luck, I opposed DennyColt's BADSITES proposal but certainly am not opposing your current actions in any way, ] 20:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:: Thanks. I am sure we are as one on this: harassment is unacceptable, and endlessly rehashing it, as we currently do, is sapping everyone's energy and driving people away. We've got a couple of good ideas which have support in principle from Jimbo, hopefully we will be able to make a difference. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 20:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::: There is little chance that a proposal that does not allow a new SPA to show up on adminstrator's talk pages with "good-faith" links to Misplaced Pages Review that just happen to reveal their place of employ will pass muster with the current crowd. ] 22:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Yes I read your article a while back on good faith and its problems, good stuff, I am certainly dealing with my own issues re this one and new user, socks, SPAs et al, but everything is fine. Hope you enjoy Malta, and your comments re going to the Proms (lucky you!) etc always amuse me. Best wishes, ] 02:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

== Collaborative real-time editor ==

Hello, JzG. I noticed you moved ] to ]. I'd like to ask you opinion about, given the current contents of the page and the existence of ] and ], moving the page back to its original title, which is, in my opinion, more exact. What do you think? ] 23:09, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

== ] Dismissed ==

The above named Arbitration case was '''dismissed''' due to the inactivity of one of the participants.

For the Arbitration Committee, - ] &#124; <sup>] / ]</sup> 22:44, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== SmartBookFinder ==

Greetings JzG,

I took your suggestions/comments on the SmartBookFinder article. I modified it and re-added, I would like for you to re-consider it. As I think it adds the knowledge based on wikipedia. Thanks in Advance!



] 23:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== Categories ==

I would like to the article on SmartBookFinder.com to the following categories:
(1) Product searching websites
(2) Book websites

Can you help me with that as well? Thanks!

] 23:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== BookFinder.com ==

Hi JzG. I was rather surprised to see the ] article speedily deleted, without any discussion or public input. The article was about four years old, and ]. The BookFinder.com website lists (including coverage in the ''Wall Street Journal'', ''New York Times'', ''Washington Post'', CNN, MSNBC, BBC, CBC, NPR, etc), suggesting more than adequate ], though perhaps not fully reflected in the article text. I believe the speedy deletion and associated removal of backlinks may have been performed in error, and would like to see the article reinstated. Thanks for your time. - ] 10:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

* It was tagged as an advert, I'm just the janitor here (Twinkle fixes the backlinks automagically). If you want the content to fix and move back you're more than welcome. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 10:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:: I just noticed that the ] article had been deleted recently (], ]). "SmartBookFinder.com" is ''utterly'' unrelated to BookFinder.com (besides having a deceptively similar name); I can see how the similarity of the names might have proven confusing. Is it possible to just have the accidental "collateral damage" deletion of the BookFinder.com article undone, so the article's history can be restored? I work with the website, and appreciate the fact that the article's been edited primarily by third parties; I'd like that neutrality to remain on the record, so future editors don't think it's a puff piece ad written by insiders (to help reduce the likelihood of future deletions!) Thanks. - ] 10:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
::: Are you saying you are associated with the site? Or are you just a user of it? <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 10:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

:::: The former. I'm associated with it, which is why I want to edit it as little as possible. (Sorry for not being clear.) - ] 10:45, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Time to stop ==
I've stopped revert war long ago, as you probably can see. My last edit was 23 October 2007. What exactly do you want me to stop? ] 18:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

The reason why did I put that to ANI, is the advice at wikiquiette alert. So I am not the only one, who censures Jtrainor behavior in disputes. And please don't blame me in everything and treat Jtrainor as an angel. ] 21:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== The Greatest Canadian ==

That sort of massive content removal really calls for a comment on the talk page with some links to precedents. ] (] 20:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== sorry to bug you... ==

Are you going to work on Ticket#: 2007101710014636? It was marked urgent but there hasn't been any action on it. ---] <small>(]/]/])</small> 20:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Jeff Clarke & Gordon Wilson ==

Today you deleted entries on ] and ]. What basis do you have for deeming both men "generic CEOs"? What kind of benchmark are you using for what makes a CEO worthy of an entry? For reference, Jeff Clarke is featured on the cover of the current issue of , one of the most respected business publications in the world with a circulation of 1 million. This is in addition to recent articles in and The Wall Street Journal. I would hate to see these entries replaced with less substantiated text in the future without a good reason. ] 20:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

==]==
About your removal of the image from the ] article:

It would have been more helpful to first discuss this issue on the Talk page. The last time someone unilaterally removed the image under the guise that you've used and even tried to delete it, I had it reversed on a Deletion Review (that one was tried by administrator based on "I don't like" as one of the reasons). People who work on the article try at least to discuss the issue and working together in a collaborative way, and come to a consensus to avoid disruptive edits and edit wars to the article - and not getting caught in editors who prefer do otherwise.

After all, the Misplaced Pages articles are written for the benefit of its readers...not for the benefit of editors who have other thing going on. '''<font color="red"><strong>→</strong></font>]<sup>&nbsp;♦&nbsp;]</sup>''' 21:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
* s/unilateral/]/. And go away. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


:I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year ]] 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
== Talk:Archimedes Plutonium ==


::We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I am wondering why ] still exists when the article has been deleted per AfD. Shouldn't the talk page be deleted too? ] 22:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
* It's a redirect. If you think there are ] issues, feel free to take it to ]. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC) :::October JzG sighting at ]. Does my heart good. --] (]) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
::::Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using ], and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
::::I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
::::I thought I'd drop in :-) ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! ] (]) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Glad you dropped by! ] (]) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. ]] 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::If Guy doesn't look at ] real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - ]the ] 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::Very happy see the little JzG! ] ] ] 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
:::::Hah! Good to see you're still around! ] 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. ''']] (])''' 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
:Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature ]. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, ]&nbsp;<sup><b>(])</b></sup> 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


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Re - the answer is "for some values of anyone". We have had a blocking and banning policy for a good long time, there is no significant dissent from the view that "anyone can edit" does not mean "anyone can use as a forum for foolishness". We block people for consistently unproductive behaviour, and we ban them for consistently disruptive behaviour, and we have pretty much always done so. Incidentally, I think you are skating on very thin ice right now, and it's showing signs of melting. Do take care. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 15:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
:I read Dan T's comment that offended you, and I don't find it particularly disruptive or disturbing. What I do find disturbing is you threatening him with a block for expressing an opinion you don't approve of. That is out of line and I'm calling you on it. After you "retired" a few weeks ago I tried to email you to suggest that you create an anonymous, new account and use it to improve articles, because I've found that the way to achieve satisfaction through participation in Misplaced Pages is to write good articles, because you can look back at your work with a sense of pride, unlike comments in a policy debate which get lost in all of the drama and hyperbole. Your email link wasn't functioning so I couldn't email you. Now, I think you may be taking things a little too personally again, so I'm offering the same unsolicited advice, for what it's worth. Of course I'm opening myself up to you to throw it back in my face, but so be it. ] 00:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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In addition to bone-deep burn scars on my left hand I now also have C7 radiculopathy, so my typing is particularly erratic right now. I have a spellcheck plugin but it can't handle larger text blocks. You're welcome to fix spelling errors without pinging me, but please don't change British to American spelling or indeed vice-versa.

JzG is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Misplaced Pages soon.

God Jul och Gott Nytt År!

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Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas,
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JzG! Are you still out there?

Hi JzG! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year Girth Summit (blether) 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" Liz 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
October JzG sighting at WP:RSN. Does my heart good. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using Tenable, and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
I thought I'd drop in :-) Guy (help! - typo?) 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! Johnuniq (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Glad you dropped by! Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. Girth Summit (blether) 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
If Guy doesn't look at Talk:Alexander technique real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - Roxy the dog 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. Guy (help! - typo?) 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Very happy see the little JzG! bishzilla ROARR!! pocket 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
Hah! Good to see you're still around!  RasputinAXP  20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. starship.paint (exalt) 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature here. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, Arbitrarily0  11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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