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<font type=arial size=3>There was a time when I loved the idea of Misplaced Pages. I remember thinking how cool it would be to help create a compendium of human knowledge. It even seemed like a noble and worthy pursuit. That is the dream that was envisioned by the founders of Misplaced Pages.
== Erin Burnett Page ==
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But what I have learned from my experience here is that Misplaced Pages is a fool's game. That is because every liar with an agenda and every fool with a computer has the same vote. And with that vote, they can erase in a day, what took you a week to complete.
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For this reason, I would strongly encourage people to stop wasting their time with Misplaced Pages.
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- ICarriere


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=== Picture ===


== September 2023 ==
Sorry, but a screencap of a person simply to show what he/she looks like doesn't meet the fair use criteria. ] states that (copyrighted) ''"pictures of people who are still alive, groups that are still active, and buildings still standing"'' fall under unacceptable use as ''"these are almost always replaceable because of the relative ease of taking a new picture, provided such an alternative would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image"''. You'll see that most biographical articles don't have a picture for this reason, and those that do tend to have snaps from movie premieres and such like. I guess the equivalent for Erin involves loitering outside the NYSE with a camera at around 11am ET! ] 22:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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*Since you thought it suitable to log in and make that your first edit in three years, I’ve blocked you indefinitely. First year is an AE action. ] (]) 11:36, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
=== School Name ===

If you believe that you know something about Erin Burnett that is contrary to the cited reference, please clarify this by indicating it on the ICarriere link of the History Page of that page.

Otherwise, do not make edits to this page. - ICarriere 00:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


: Dude, I went to where she went (same class). St. Andrew's School in Middletown, Delaware. No way to cite those references. Misplaced Pages is full of you self important wiki-nazis. Buzz off. 208.248.11.18 01:58, 5 August 2007


:: I will disregard your comment about "self important wiki-nazis", because although they exist, I am not one of them.

:: Now, I created the current page because I noted the abundance of errors that existed on the previous page. That previous page was about 2-3 paragraphs and was written by yehoos' who openly stated their desire to be Mr. Burnett. This is not the purpose of Misplaced Pages. There are plenty of Blogs on the Internet to express that kind of nonsense. Moreover, the rules of Misplaced Pages are quite clear - if you can't cite it from a good source, then don't add it to the page.

:: With that said, I have provided references for the content that is written. Including the interview where Erin Burnett states that she grew up in Mardela Springs and went to St. Andrews in Maryland, not Delaware.

:: Reference: http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6448641.html

:: In addition to these steps, I have also sent an email to Ms. Burnett asking her to correct any errors on the page. I expressly stated that if she wanted me to remove, add or change anything that I would.

:: So until a reference is cited to the contrary, or until Ms. Burnett replies to my email indicating her wishes otherwise, the page stays as is. - ICarriere 07:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

::: How about ? ] 21:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

== Bias on Misplaced Pages ==

=== Incivilty by Admin ===

David, I was sorry to see an Administrator of all people making a person attack, as you did on the Erin Burnett discussion page, ''see'' ]. I have responded to your claim on that page. ''Please respond here or on my talk page.''

I truly believe that Administrators should be a good example for others to follow. Furthermore, I believe the Misplaced Pages Foundation would agree with that assessment. - ICarriere 17:12, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

:Criticising an individual's behavior is ''not'' a personal attack. (If it were, you'd be guilty of numerous personal attacks on that very page.)
:There is no "Misplaced Pages Foundation." You're thinking of the Wikimedia Foundation. And don't think for a moment that your thinly veiled threat intimidates me. —] 17:19, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

::<font color="blue"> Reminding you of the Misplaced Pages policy is not a threat, so don't make such claims without foundation.

::You are clearly a left-wing Democrat, who watches the Daily Show, and reads the democratunderground.com. You seem to think, your standing here (Admin) allows you the latitude to present your bias as fact. But I'm sorry, it does not. Like in all other matters the truth will always prevail.</font> - ICarriere 17:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

:::1. I was referring to your obvious threat of reporting me to the Wikimedia Foundation.
:::2. On what do you base the assertion that I'm a "left-wing Democrat"? (My political views actually are moderate, but that's beside the point.) I sometimes watch ''The Daily Show'', but I learned of this incident via the rec.arts.tv Usenet newsgroup. I'm not familiar with democratunderground.com.
:::3. I don't know what political party (if any) Burnett belongs to, and that's utterly irrelevant. My stance has absolutely nothing to do with politics. Whether the speaker of the remarks were conservative (as I gather Burnett is), liberal or centrist, my position would be exactly the same. That you feel the need to hurl accusations to the contrary doesn't lend credence to the claim that your involvement isn't politically motivated.
:::4. At no point did I even ''mention'' that I'm an administrator, let alone imply that this gives me higher "standing." I simply participated in the discussion. —] 18:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

:::: <font color="blue"> Well, at no point did I threaten to report you to the Wikimedia Foundation (''I wouldn't even know how to.'')</font> - ICarriere 01:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::How should I have interpreted "Furthermore, I believe the Misplaced Pages Foundation would agree with that assessment."? Why else would you mention that? —] 02:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

::::::<font color="blue">Any way you'd like, but it was not a threat. Repeating a lie does not make it true.

:::::: Furthermore, please stop editing my User talk page.</font> - ICarriere 02:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

== False Accusations ==


=== ] Violations ===

Please read ] and refrain from editing from your user id and your non logged in ip address. Thanking yourself on the ip talk ] seems rather deceptive. Please avoid deceptive editing practices and comments. If you continue you are likely to be blocked from editing. ] 01:50, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

: The issue at hand is a simple misunderstanding. I have been working to prevent vandalism to a page I created. Because the vandals who are using Sock Puppets (I've checked the IPs) were constantly watching my edit/contribution history, I felt the need to log out to ask another person for help. I didn't want the vandals to know that I was asking for assistance.

: While, I was logged out, I had to revert vandalism to the page in question. So I accidentally did this using my IP address. Again, this was not intentional. I agree, the cute little note where I thank myself was deceptive, but for good reason. I didn't want the vandals to see my IP address and put two and two together. A person's IP Address can be easily hacked. Which is why I plan on renewing it shortly.

: Unfortunately, I made the mistake of asking for help from ]. ] became immediately hostile, claiming that I had violated the ] policy.

: Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry policy states,

: <font color="red"> "A sock puppet is an additional username used by a Wikipedian who already has one or more accounts. The Wikipedian who uses a sock puppet may be called a sock puppeteer. Use of sock puppets is discouraged in most cases.

: The reason for discouraging sock puppets is to prevent abuses such as a person voting more than once in a poll, or using multiple accounts to circumvent Misplaced Pages policies or cause disruption. Some people feel that second accounts should not be used at all; others feel it is harmless if the accounts are behaving acceptably."</font>

: The request for help from ] was a harmless act. Moreover, the comment to myself on my own user page was a harmless act. - ICarriere 02:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

::Using a sock for the purpose of deceiving others is ''not'' honest nor harmless. ] 05:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


::: <font color="blue">There was no intention on my part to deceive anyone. Misplaced Pages does not deny us the notion of privacy when communicating with another user. As to the edit, I have explain that I did not intend for the edit to show with my ip address.</font>

::: <font color="blue">I have also explained why I added the comment afterward. Somewhat stupid? Perhaps, but as I said, I did so to conceal my privacy from would be hackers. I did it for my protection, not to cause harm to anyone else. The fact that you chose to believe something else is outside my control.</font>

::: <font color="blue">Frankly, the hostility on your part is truly questionable. From what I have read, the admins are suppose to be welcoming and helpful. Instead, you've been accusatory and vendictive * .</font> - ICarriere 09:28, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


=== ] Violations ===

I have protected the page due to the ongoing edit warring there. Note the protection does not endorse the current version. You have been involved in a protracted edit war and appear to have violated ], please avoid such behavior in the future. Your edit warring and admitted sock usage could easily have resulted in a block, please consider this a warning for the future. I expect to see some civil discussion on the talk page involved in an attempt by you and the other editors to resolve the issue. ] 04:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

: While I truly thank you for protecting the page, I disagree with your claim I have violated Misplaced Pages policy.

: The policy clearly allows exception for removing content that violates the WP:BLV.

: ] Policy states,

: Exceptions:

: <font color="red">Reverts to remove clearly libelous material, or unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material about living persons (see Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons) </font>

: The <u>only</u> reverts that I have made to the page were for the purpose of retaining the pages' integrity.

: I would appreciate your response. - ICarriere 04:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


::Others have a different view of your actions, including another admin. Calling another users edits ''vandalism'' does not make it so. There may be some BLP issues here plus some notability problems - however "clearly libelous" and "poorly sourced" have been disputed on the talk page by others. At that point your continuing edit warring became a problem. I have no interest in the details of the dispute - quite simply move on and resolve the issue. ] 05:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


:::<font color="blue">Again, I was defending the page I created from repeated vandalism by a 1-2 users. The user/users both hide themselves using a proxy and multiple user accounts. Now, if you don't mind, I'll defend myself,

::: 1) Revert of unsourced school name when sourced school name is already provided:*

::: + 23:29, 16 August 2007 by ]

::: 2) Revert to so-called controversy citing 'youtube' as source:*

::: + 12:08, 17 August 2007 by ]

::: 3) Revert to so-called controversy citing 'youtube' as source:*

::: + 12:44, 17 August 2007 - ]

::: 4) Revert to so-called controversy citing 'Political blog' consumerist as source:*

::: + 17:19, 17 August 2007 - ] sock ]

::: 5) Revert to controversial quote citing NO source*

::: + 19:02, 17 August 2007 - ] proxy 4.231.238.99

::: 6) Revert to defamatory statement, "Proving That She Is A Quasi-Fascist"*

::: + 20:41, 17 August 2007 - 72.70.224.38

::: 7) Revert to controversy now citing 'Daily Show' as source *

::: - made by mistake on 67.185.221.175
::: - thank you note added

::: + 21:20, 17 August 2007 - ]

::: 8) Removal of picture from main which violated GNU.*

::: + 21:25, 17 August 2007 - ] I added note to explain*

::: 9) Revert to edit, citing the 'Crooks and Liars' political blog as source*

::: + 22:24, 17 August 2007 - ] proxy 4.231.233.88

::: 10) Revert to edit, citing the 'Crooks and Liars' political blog as source *

::: + 03:01, 18 August 2007 - ] proxy 4.236.222.149

::: I hope after a careful review of the record, you will see that I did not violate ]. Thank you.</font> - ICarriere 16:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

== Editing Headers ==

Please do not edit the . It is bad practrice. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:15:40, August 20, 2007 (UTC)|&#32;15:40, August 20, 2007 (UTC)}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: <font color="blue">Thank you for the comment, but you are way out of line. I realize you want to place your comments at the bottom so that everyone can see you in all your self importance. But discussion pages are meant to be well defined so that new users can contribute. I reordered the page to reflect new comments to the bottom. That is not the same as editing your comments.</font> - ICarriere 15:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


== ]/] Request ==

This is a very complex subject, but if you look over the information I have compiled, a destinct pattern begins to emerge.

I used ARIN to located the physical locations Anonymous Users making edits on the Erin Burnett History page :

http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl

Here is what I found:


216.16.232.250 - ON, Canada

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151022459&oldid=151015070

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: Newsbusters (BLOG)


209.160.104.203 - Rochester, NY

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151521193&oldid=151477027

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: Crooks and Liars (BLOG)


206.223.219.31 - Ketchikan, AK

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151313432&oldid=151299873

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: Consumerist (BLOG)


170.63.96.108 - Chelsea, MA - Massachusetts Department of Revenue '''(VANDALISM)'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=148124687&oldid=148051237

Edit: '''Erin Burnett''' is a enjoying undeserved success after being continually hyped on MSNBC by Joe Scarborough.

Cited: NO SOURCE


148.177.1.211 - Raritan, NJ

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151015070&oldid=150848357

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: Crooks and Liars (BLOG)


140.247.152.251 - Cambridge, MA - Harvard University '''VALID'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=149501912&oldid=149388815

Edit: Revert Controvery Section title to Popular Culture


124.217.63.180 - Milton, AU '''VALID'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=148897081&oldid=148859294

Edit:


72.92.15.183 - Reston, VA '''VALID'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=149388815&oldid=149356058

Edit: M


72.70.224.38 - Reston, VA '''(VANDALISM)'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151901431&oldid=151899537

Edit: Quotes Proving That She Is A Quasi-Fascist


70.177.246.33 - Atlanta, GA '''(VANDALISM)'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151376761&oldid=151375820

Edit: "On August 15, 2007 Burnett repeatedly made disparaging comments about the people of the State of New Jersey while appearing on the "Morning Joe" show on MSNBC, eventually referring to the state as "the armpit of America." It is unclear whether this comment was made as a result of impirical reporting, was the opinion of both CNBC and MSNBC or was just her personal, uniformed and unprofessional opinion. Her comments have prompted calls for her ouster."

Cited: Consumerist (BLOG)


70.44.153.46 - Palmerton, PA '''(VANDALISM)'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=148859294&oldid=148846328

Edit: Burnett is young and has no M.B.A., but is often featured on shows as an "expert" on the economy and the markets.



69.142.245.22 - Mt Laurel, NJ '''(VANDALISM)'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151375820&oldid=151374802

Edit: "On August 15, 2007 Burnett repeatedly made disparaging comments about the people of the State of New Jersey while appearing on the "Morning Joe" show on MSNBC, eventually referring to the state as "the armpit of America." It is unclear whether this comment was made as a result of impirical reporting, was the opinion of both CNBC and MSNBC or was just her personal, uniformed and unprofessional opinion. Her comments have prompted calls for her ouster."

Cited: NO SOURCE


68.63.187.12 - Mt Laurel, NJ

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151451927&oldid=151451834

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: NO SOURCE


66.245.41.236 - Atlanta, GA

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=150581532&oldid=150047256

Edit: Add link to fan club


64.180.8.165 - BC, Canada '''(VANDALISM)'''

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151653671&oldid=151652786

Edit: Deleted sourced material from 'Career' section


24.131.127.14 - Mt Laurel, NJ

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151639550&oldid=151633789

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: Consumerist (BLOG)


4.236.222.149 - Broomfield, CO - Level 3 Communications, Inc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151960649&oldid=151918118

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: Crooks and Liars (BLOG)


4.231.238.99 - Broomfield, CO - Level 3 Communications, Inc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151885023&oldid=151880841

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: Crooks and Liars (BLOG)


4.231.233.88 - Broomfield, CO - Level 3 Communications, Inc.

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Erin_Burnett&diff=151918118&oldid=151917342

Edit: Add Controversial Quote

Cited: Crooks and Liars (BLOG)


== Feedback ==

], as you indicated, this could be the work of bloggers; but I have a feeling this is the work of one or two people. I'm not asking you to do anything, but I would like your feedback on what I should do next.

The only program I could find that uses this random method of IP Addressing is called Anonymizer .

I would like to get to the bottom of this. So on Monday, I plan on calling the support department to ask whether any of these IP Addresses belong to their company.

Do you think I should rewrite my request for ] now that I know more of what's going on? - ICarriere 01:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

:To be honest, I think you are seeing what you want to see. I'm seeing a whole bunch of different users from all overthe place. ] | ] 01:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

:But isn't that what using a proxy address does? - ICarriere 01:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

::Why are there no European proxies on your list? ] | ] 01:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

::: Well, I'm not sure. I guess, Anonymizer is an American company.

::: What's the significance of European proxy address? - ICarriere 02:05, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

::::If you are going to use a list of open proxies, wouldn't you use them from all over the world? I would. But all the edits above appear to com from North America. Also the edits are all different. Some add the quote, some add other stuff, some vandalise others revert vandalism, some add a cite, some don't. Of those that do they cite from multiple different places. ] | ] 02:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

::::: All of what you say is true except, Open Proxies and a program like Anonymizer are very different things.

::::: Moreover, what makes me suspicious is how that many Anonymous users would try to add the same group of blogs that ] had cited on the EB discussion page. When if you read the EB discussion page, the argument had already been made that Blogs are not considered citable sources per ].

::::: Don't get me wrong, it's possible that all of those people had the same intent and the same reasoning skills, but I find it highly unlikely.

::::: Anyway, thank you for the feedback. I really do appreciate at. - ICarriere 02:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


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Please sign your posts with four tildes. That way, your username and timestamp will be generated automatically and make responses on talk a little easier. If you don't have the tilde key, there's a thing you canclick right at the top of the editing box underneath the save, preview, and show change buttons.

As for your request, I have to concur with Theresa - I don't see the pattern you see. When something gets on the Internet, a lot of people are going to see it, and there are plenty of like-minded people out there. The quotes aren't a BLP violation, because the sources are valid, though I gather the issue is "is this really as big an issue as people want to make out?" That is debatable, and it's purely a content issue. I think a CU isn't going to get you the outcome you expect to the degree which you expect - the IP data is too disparate, though you might find ''a'' sock here or there. I think you've got to try discussion first, and if a solid attempt at that fails, then go to ANI, though the page has been protected already, so you've gotten to about the endpoint of ANI already. If you've filed an SSP, wait for it to finish first before you do anything else process-wise. You may simply have to wait and see what happens; there's no magic button to press to resolve things like this. ] 03:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

: Thank you for the feedback. Although, I'm rather confused about the tildes comment. I looked on your discussion page and see my username/timestamp shows there. I wonder if I have a problem with my account. I've noticed that people say that even though my username/timestamp are present. ICarriere 11:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::No, because wiki formatting is dependent on the server and not the client. As long as you format properly, it works - what you're probably doing is typing your username and ''five'' tildes, which gives you a timestamp only, and not the username wikilink. ] 15:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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Latest revision as of 11:36, 21 September 2023

There was a time when I loved the idea of Misplaced Pages. I remember thinking how cool it would be to help create a compendium of human knowledge. It even seemed like a noble and worthy pursuit. That is the dream that was envisioned by the founders of Misplaced Pages.

But what I have learned from my experience here is that Misplaced Pages is a fool's game. That is because every liar with an agenda and every fool with a computer has the same vote. And with that vote, they can erase in a day, what took you a week to complete.

For this reason, I would strongly encourage people to stop wasting their time with Misplaced Pages.

- ICarriere

September 2023

Stop icon
To enforce an arbitration decision, and for this, you have been blocked indefinitely from editing Misplaced Pages.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the ] or ]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. 

Courcelles (talk) 11:34, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

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