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== Hey Man ==

I think I need your help and support. I go an e mail from an editor asking me to look at the ] section. These articles are riddled with ], ] and ]. I tried to do a simple ] tag but oh my did I get the thrashing of my life! These subjects are the actual editors of their pages. So, when an editor goes in to try and edit the articles, they jump on them and remove any edits they do not like. The way the ] is written, all these people have to do is to win an award or be able to write something about themselves in a web page and it can be entered into WP. When you click on the links for these pages, they take you to websites that you either have to agree to enter in on adult content or it takes you to their porno stores. The only way to get around these people is to put them up for ]. I need some help here. Do you think you would like to join forces with me to rid WP os some of this crap? Let me know. I certainly could use the support and help ] 18:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:thanks Bug, but I can't help you until my block is resolved. --] 08:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::Which will be resolved once you agree to stop going on about the AMA per your community ban. <font color="SteelBlue">]</font> <font color="red"><sup>]</sup></font> 19:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:If you notice, you, and a couple others, are the ones that keeps going on about AMA. In fact, in one of your previous comments you even mentioned Esperanza. Should you be blocked for trolling? This thing about banning me because I hold an opinion and express an opinion that most others disagree with seems a bit unsettling to me. Why not just ignore me? When I talk about this alleged obsession? Surely, it should be easy for an inteligent person like yourself to realize exactly what you are doing? I hope you, yourself can move on to something more productive eventually? Nevertheless, if you do wish to continue discussing this issue I'll be happy to do so via email. In the mean time, please feel free to explore and add smirky comments (trolling) to other user's talk pages. p.s.: Just one question, what is the need to put me under a threat of re-banning if I so much as mentions the subject again? Surelly, as you have shown with your Esperanza example, it is difficult to not talk about our history without talking about our past. What we had was a dissagreement... Obviously you supported the close of AMA and I didn't. At the time there was no community concensus and there was a lack of communication on your behalf. Partly because of this, and other reasons, such as the removal of perfectly legitimate conversation to improve the AMA, the closing of the AMA, as I saw it, was trolling on behalf of the ones that closed it. Nevertheless, I'm being labelled a troll. So if you say I do X and it's considered trolling then maybe it is. However, I fail to see what X is anymore? And why it may be considered trolling, given the fact that the AMA has been shut down? --] 21:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

== Concensus? ==

Ryan had said "you are banned indefinately from mentioning AMA on wiki again, that includes all namespaces, if you are to mention it once more, the indefinate block will be reinstated permanently." The problem with this ultimatum is that even though I want to do that. I know, at some point in time, there will be an opportunity, a lesson to explain to someone, etc. that it would be ideal or opportunitistic (for educational purposes and nothing to do, as you ademently keep insisting, in a trollish manner. The last I checked, trolling was something that was there for disruption. The only disruptions I've seen, in my view, where a couple disgruntled Admins that closed the AMA. Hey! Great for them! Now they don't have to deal with verbios comments which may contradict their logic. But trully, for everyone else who is not an admin and who put there word down in the MfD, all I noticed where comments to keep on going. Now, where are these people now, I don't know, I could assume maybe they where blocked? Or maybe they don't care anymore? The problem I see, is that process wasn't followed. Every step that was taken did not have, or you didn't show the community support. It wasn't until after the fact. So all that to say... You closed down AMA. I disagreed. I tried to continue working with the AMA. You blocked me indefinatelly. You then got the community concensus (after the fact). I still disagree. I'm still blocked. AMA is no longer active, and all the pages are prety much protected. So what more is there to say. I guess I'll have to make a sacrifice. :( It's trully a sad day, when something you believe in destroyed in what I considered a very unethical way. However, again, I can make that sacrifice. I wonder though, I remember Tom Harrisson saying something like, if I leave the AMA he would support it not beeing deleted. Humm... Actually, let's assume they do come back, maybe by that time I'll look back and say something like "Well, that was a hard sacrifice then but, really I think I can do without out it now!"... (nevertheless, I promise not to talk about the AMA, however I reserve the right, should it ever become re-institutionalized (by someone other than I) to talk about the subject on the appropriate page.
:Please bare with me whilst I take it to an admin board. ] 22:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

* At last. Welcome back, Pat, I have unblocked you. Remember, though, that tolerance for agitation about AMA is about zero, so if we think you've gone out to find an excuse for wikilawyering your way back to discussing it, you will be blocked again in no time. However, right now, I think you've said what we want to hear, so you're good to go. Let's be really clear here: agitating for reinstatement is ''right out'', explaining why it failed should be done with caution. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

:*A true personal sacrifice for me because of the disagreement on how things where being done, but, as we both know now, there wasn't very much left... except for principal! And nobody wants to hear about that right? Thank you for the unblock. --] 22:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== CyclePat ==

Now that this drama is over, even though I am not sure about what it was all about, can you please help me rid ] of some good old nastily written and advertisement ridden pornography? I need all the help I can get. I have some ] that are onboard with me to back me up as these people are ruthless about their porn. Please let me know. I need an old friend! ] 23:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:This seems like a really big task. Is there a game plan? --] 22:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

::Just jump in bud and start removing fluff and things that are ]. I think you are good enough editor to know what is encyclopedic and proper for ]. I think I would go to ]. There are the guidelines for this crap. ] 02:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

== Re:] ==

Most of the timezones from the above page have been deleted so I have removed them. Also user:CyclePat/Template has been deleted so I have removed that too.Please reply on my Talk Page. ] 15:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== MS ==

One thing you're forgetting is that the page you are editing is a disambiguation page. It is not an article in its own right, and doesn't need to have citations, just links to articles which themselves may or may not be properly sourced. ''All'' the fact tags are inappropriate there, although in the interest of AGF I left all but three alone. Challenge the articles if you must (although I highly disagree with this on articles about SI units and state postal abbreviations) but on a dab page really the only criteria for removal are irrelevance and redlinks (which can occur if the subject article is deleted as unreferenced). ] 07:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

==Ottawa Islands==
I can't remember. I may have used one of two methods. I may have said that the ] and ] ( or and ) are in the Qikiqtaaluk Region so the ] being between them are thus also in the same region. Being unlikely that the ] would reach out into the area for those islands. I might have used the coordinate discriptions of the regions to figure it out. The leagal discriptions were available from either the GNU or GC but I can't find it again. ] ] 16:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

:The answer to that is both yes and no. Prior to division in 1999 the ] included the ], ] and the ]. After divison, along with some border changes, they were renamed the ], ] and the ] by the Government of Nunavut. However, StatsCan still calls them ], ] and ] but the borders are identical between the current GNU and the StatsCan versions. ] ] 07:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== Disambiguation page ==

Although it's good to have references, it is really rare to have references in disambig pages, especially when the disambig content itself has an article about it, which provides references inside. ]] 05:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:The article removed where all verified. The references provide within the article removed and placed on the ] where either non existant or insuficiently reliable to meet wikipedia's standards for reliable sources. And, that' even while trying still trying to use common sense (common knowlege). --] 05:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:If you want to help right now I'm lookin into http://www.iupac.org/reports/provisional/abstract06/murray_prs.pdf to see if I can find a source for ]... making a reference with easybib, page 24.... etc... --] 05:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== EgyptAir ==

EgyptAir's IATA code IS NOT original research. Your continued demands that every last iota of information be individually sourced is bordering on disruptive, and I am no longer inclined to assume good faith on your part. Please stop. ] 21:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

:I did not blank out any content. And your warning is quite rude considering I know the rules on 3RR and have been working for a while with wikipedia. --] 21:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

:: 3RR doesn't apply here. You removed content from an article and mis-cited guidelines to justify it. And you've got a history of this behaviour. A warning is appropriate, because your edits are disruptive. ] 22:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

:::Goodbye! --] 22:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

:It appears that you've been wasting the time of numerous editors, first by engaging in a pointless tag war on ] (demanding a cite for a noncontroversial fact that is supported by a reference on a page one link away) and then by crossposting a minor complaint on multiple boards. This has prompted me to review your recent conduct in general, and I note that you're also engaged in a pointless edit war on the ] disambiguation page.

:Your conduct at both articles has been disruptive, and likely has been disruptive to prove a point. I will block you if you continue to edit war on these &ndash; or any &ndash; articles over your own misinterpretation and misapplication of ] and ]. ](]) 22:48, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, but I really don't see the link you're talking about could you please direct me. I'm really confused about what your saying. When I checked the link at the the the time there where no link to show a reference of MS with EgyptAir. I asked this question and now it appears as though there is a proper citation. Again, I have no clue what you are talking about in a reference which is one link away (which I did check). Furthermore, the information, according to me was contreversial because I coudn't find any reliable source. I'm sorry if questions appear disruptive however until recently I trully had no "reliable" references (which I again I did follow the ITA something) to show that MS is the related to EgyptAir. Again, this has been resolved between Dethme0w and I. Goodbye!

:::I have trouble reconciling your statement that the matter has been 'resolved' with your recent complaints to WP:AN/I and elsewhere. As your edit war on ] was not the first instance of this sort of trouble, I will be keeping an eye on your conduct in the future. As I said, I only intend to block you for disruption if you continue to be disruptive. ](]) 23:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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