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			== External links modified ==
	This is perhaps fit for deltion unless some notability is established. --] 15:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

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	Mitch is now a starting quarterback for the University of Arkansas. ] 06:25, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

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	==Section headers==
			*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080822085126/http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-1-191/QB-intrigue-continues-at-USC.html to http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-1-191/QB-intrigue-continues-at-USC.html
	The headings for the subsections under College career -> Arkansas have more of an artistic ring to them than an encyclopedic one. "Rise with the Razorbacks," "A turning point, and "Mustain the transferee" should all be changed to something that sounds less like chapter titles in a ]. --] 02:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
			*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090123192044/http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-6-57/Report--Sanchez-bolting-for-NFL----so-who-s-next-.html to http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-6-57/Report--Sanchez-bolting-for-NFL----so-who-s-next-.html
			*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090502032536/http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-6-60/Corp-vs--Mustain-vs--Barkley-at-USC.html to http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-6-60/Corp-vs--Mustain-vs--Barkley-at-USC.html

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	:Agreed. The headings are far too informal and of a tabloid nature. They should be changed to a more formal and NPOV tone. ] 06:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

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	::I changed the headers to more conventional and formal titles, which are also less POV. ] 07:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 14:36, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
	:::Thanks! --] 13:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

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	:::Accept my thanks as well. Your headers are much improved over the previous ones and also describe the sections much better. Good job! ] 14:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

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	==OTRS 2007072910002927==
	I am the OTRS agent handling this ticket, it is locked until issues are worked out via OTRS. This does not mean we agree with the current article, and that changes can not be suggested. Just please do so here first, and request permission (OTRS agents to authorize), you may not be privy to information which we have. ] 08:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	:I just got back from a weekend to see this ticket... if I am to be correct from looking at the article, there was a dispute over infobox's statement that his nickname was "The Future". That edit dates from his time with the Razorbacks (and I doubt its in use anymore at USC), I think there can be general agreement that its not necessary anymore. I am a little disappointed that the two people who were editing over this did not take their discussion to the talk page before enacting an outside process. Those are my two cents. --] 15:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	::It may be more than that. Someone was blanking a huge chunk of the page and inserting an all-caps paragraph at the top saying something to the effect of "anyone who edits this page will be reported". I've been in email communication with this person, who claims to be his mother, and they mentioned having tried to have the page deleted and whatnot. This is likely related. ] 16:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	:::Agreed. It had nothing whatsoever to do with "The Future" comment. I got the same email as Natalie and addressed the issue with the concerned parties. The issue had actually been fully resolved the day before the article was protected. Changes were made to the article and the version that stands now is considered completely acceptable and has taken into account certain issues that cannot be discussed on a public forum. If you need clarification, you can email me. ] 18:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	::::Ah. So it seems to do with the edits that more-or-less are covered . I am not clear how the information there, clearly cited by multiple sources, is problematic --if anything it seems like we're now dealing with the ''opposite'' of previous vandals who wanted to write that Mustain was the antichrist, now it seems to be trying to remove any bad mentions of people who were mentioned in the news. I'd be curious to see the evidence proffered for the removal of that information cited to ESPN and SI --neither of which have, to my knowledge, printed retractions. Most of that stuff negatively reflected on Nutt, anyway. I admit, I find the fact that this information has been removed to be troubling. --] 19:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	:::::As I said, I cannot discuss this on a public forum, so if you want clarification, directly email me. ] 19:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	::::::I emailed you a second ago :-) Just to clarify since this is the first time I've run into OTRS: do we make cases for keeping information in this subheading? --] 19:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::That's a good question. I've never dealt with OTRS either. I know the tickets are confidential and I believe communication between the OTRS volunteer and whoever contacted OTRS is confidential as well, so we may never be directly told what the problem is. ] 19:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	::::::::That's correct. OTRS is a confidential issue that cannot be discussed on public forums. ] 20:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::::If we have specific questions (that may or may not be answerable given the situation), do we ask the person who started this subsection or anyone in OTRS? My lawyer-sense is tingling (not to do or recommend anything as a lawyer, but to ask a question coming from that background). --] 20:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	::::::::::I would imagine it's best to ask the person who's specifically dealing with this ticket. They are one communicating with the person with a complaint or issue, and they are the one charged with satisfactorily resolving the issue. I suppose if you had a general question about OTRS or how it worked you could ask anyone on the OTRS squad. ] 20:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
	:I've already spoken to ] via email, and am happy to answer further questions on the reason it was protected without getting too specific. The protection has been lifted and issues have been worked out. It seems the current revision is acceptable (the ticket queue was backlogged, so we don't always get to them right away). Of course feel free to make changes and edit, but take into account that there are certain things which can cause harm to others directly or indirectly. Further comments can be redirected to my talk page, or email if you want to reach me directly. ] 06:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
	===OTRS redux (Nov '07)===
	I know there was some confusion as to whether the previous OTRS impacts the changes I made ; as a result, I followed procedure and asked a member of OTRS to review the ticket and let me know if the confidential information affected my new additions, based on reliably sourced articles from several months after the original ticket. The answer was, these new edits I made recently . As such, since the information is NPOV and just elaborates on the very interesting situation at Arkansas (which has been featured in ESPN, SI, etc) that involves the subject of the article. ---- ] (]) 21:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

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	:This is completely incorrect. The initial complaint centered on the issue of the family of the subject of the article stating that such information caused damage to the reputation of Mitch Mustain and his family, as well as subjecting them to threats of harassment by other parties. That still stands. For those reasons, this information has to be removed. Furthermore, Bobak attempts to link one set of events to another, without knowing the facts that the subject's family is aware of. The subject, Mitch Mustain, has never spoken on this issue, due to his position, and will not speak on this issue in the future. I have informed the Misplaced Pages Foundation about Bobak's attempts to put this information back in that damage Mustain's reputation, while also subjecting his family to harassment, including a statement that there are people who wish to cause physical harm, or perhaps, kill his mother. This is unrelated to football and centers around the actions of others. For those reasons, the initial OTRS ticket stands and this information must be removed. -- ] (]) 22:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
			*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070211015131/http://www2.arkansasonline.com/razorbacks/news/2007/jan/16/mitch-mustain-asks-transfer/ to http://www2.arkansasonline.com/razorbacks/news/2007/jan/16/mitch-mustain-asks-transfer/

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	::Caffehamp, you cannot be taken as a neutral party in any discussion regarding USC. You have written to me in an email that "As you remember after the Mitch Mustain issue, I have been requested by the USC sports information department to start monitoring articles of current USC athletes and making necessary changes." I retain the copy of this email, that is in violation of ]. Please stop. I am getting tired of this activity. ---- ] (]) 22:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

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	:::I have contacted the Misplaced Pages Foundation regarding this issue and how you have an agenda against Mitch Mustain. You clearly are not a neutral party. You have attempted to remove what you consider to be damaging information regarding ] and put in your own wording, claiming it damages his reputation, yet you have consistently put in damaging information regarding Mitch Mustain. -- ] (]) 22:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 17:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
	::::I have no agenda against anyone, this is Misplaced Pages: my edits speak for themselves. I stand by my comments that you claim to be working for the USC Sports Information Department and making alterations to articles for whatever reasons that entails. I don't see how this negatively affects Mitch Mustain, who's ability on the field (according to LA Times and other reports is quite good right now) will decide his ability to compete for the starting job in the Spring. So, please, lets take this to the next level up --which, by the way, shouldn't require the Foundation, but under ], should follow Mediation and terminate with Arbitration. I have a feeling this needs to go to Arbitration. --] (]) 22:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

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