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| *'''Keep'' per real world notability - The book ''The lives of Dax'' -- ] (]) 12:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | *'''Keep'' per real world notability - The book ''The lives of Dax'' -- ] (]) 12:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :*''The Lives of Dax'' is a derived work of fiction, an anthology of short stories. Notability comes from ] comment and analysis of the character from a real world perspective. ] (]) 12:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | :*''The Lives of Dax'' is a derived work of fiction, an anthology of short stories. Notability comes from ] comment and analysis of the character from a real world perspective. ] (]) 12:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ::* "Real world perspective" is a requirement for Misplaced Pages articles, not their sources. A derived novel can contain comment and analysis of a character which is just as valid and reliable as a critical review or analysis. ] (]) 01:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Merge''' the intro and a selected summary of important hosts into ]. The rest of the article is excessive ]. ] (]) 12:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | *'''Merge''' the intro and a selected summary of important hosts into ]. The rest of the article is excessive ]. ] (]) 12:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Merge''' - So that the article will redirect there. ] (]) 18:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | *'''Merge''' - So that the article will redirect there. ] (]) 18:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Keep or Merge''' Major character in Star Trek. ] (]) 18:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Merge''' ] (]) 20:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the ]. </small><small>—] (]) 16:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)</small> | *<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the ]. </small><small>—] (]) 16:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)</small> | ||
| *'''Merge''' - The ''Dax'' character as presented in the series is not a major character, though two incarnations are. The most notable and original is ], and it is to that article it should probably be moved. ] (]) 01:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *<s>'''Join'''</s>...er...'''Merge''' to ]. ] is by far the most notable, but the two other incarnations are reasonably notable too. ] (]) 10:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Merge and Dabify''' as several characters are called "Dax" in Star Trek ] (]) 20:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep'''. As an entity, Dax is independently notable from its hosts (as established by the TV series as well as the book The Lives of Dax) who are treated by the Trek franchise as completely separate characters. This is not any different than there being an article on ], plus articles on each on his 10 incarnations. ] (]) 22:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep''' per signifcant coverage in '''', '''' and a plethora of independently written and published novels featuring various incarnations of the symbiote character. ] (]) 01:28, 15 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Can be easily merged to ] and ] ] (]) 08:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep'''. I believe notability is satisfied. The history of this character is so complex that a separate article is helpful and encyclopedic. Presentation would get messy if it was merged into ]; multiple levels of headings already display poorly in some other lists. (It might be helpful to add a disambiguation template, at least temporarily, as this would assist with DAB using ].) However, if the decision is Merge, then it should be to the DS9 list. - ] ] 19:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep''' per ] and ]. Dax is notable. Oh, and ] is garbage. --] (]) 14:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Merge''' as above per the recommendation at ], even if poor ] disagrees with it. Real-world significance is lacking, a point reinforced by the fancrufty references cited by DHowell above. ] (]) 19:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :*Please keep the ] to a minimum. --] (]) 19:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep''' as a notable character in an important SF show, with outside-of-universe notability shown. One link has flash or some other busy program on it. ] (]) 19:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was KEEP: details of the merge of this content with another article can be discussed at the article's talk page. Sancho 23:16, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Dax (Star Trek)
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Lacks notability and fails WP:FICT. Trills are already covered in Trill (Star Trek) and the three actually notable Dax hosts from DS9 are already covered in their respective articles Curzon Dax, Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax. Almost entirely unsourced and probable WP:OR in several sections, along with some trivia. Maybe transwiki to Memory Alpha instead of using Memory Alpha as a "source." Collectonian (talk) 07:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom - but I fear this again will go nowhere. Ejfetters (talk) 08:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Delete the information is covered elsewhere for this fictional character. Though I can see an argument that Dax itself is somewhat an independent entity to Curzon, Jadiza and Ezri, but probably not enough to deserve a seperate page. Alberon (talk) 10:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been listed on the talk page for WikiProject Star Trek. • Gene93k (talk) 10:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Merge into List of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine characters. --Philip Stevens (talk) 11:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- 'Keep per real world notability - The book The lives of Dax -- Agathoclea (talk) 12:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- The Lives of Dax is a derived work of fiction, an anthology of short stories. Notability comes from reliably sourced comment and analysis of the character from a real world perspective. • Gene93k (talk) 12:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- "Real world perspective" is a requirement for Misplaced Pages articles, not their sources. A derived novel can contain comment and analysis of a character which is just as valid and reliable as a critical review or analysis. DHowell (talk) 01:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Merge the intro and a selected summary of important hosts into List of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine characters. The rest of the article is excessive plot summary. • Gene93k (talk) 12:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Merge - So that the article will redirect there. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge Major character in Star Trek. Rray (talk) 18:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Merge SharkD (talk) 20:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletions. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Merge - The Dax character as presented in the series is not a major character, though two incarnations are. The most notable and original is Jadzia Dax, and it is to that article it should probably be moved. LonelyBeacon (talk) 01:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Join...er...Merge to List of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine characters. Jadzia is by far the most notable, but the two other incarnations are reasonably notable too. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)- Merge and Dabify as several characters are called "Dax" in Star Trek 132.205.99.122 (talk) 20:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. As an entity, Dax is independently notable from its hosts (as established by the TV series as well as the book The Lives of Dax) who are treated by the Trek franchise as completely separate characters. This is not any different than there being an article on The Doctor, plus articles on each on his 10 incarnations. 23skidoo (talk) 22:15, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per signifcant coverage in Star Trek: The Human Frontier, The Lives of Dax and a plethora of independently written and published novels featuring various incarnations of the symbiote character. DHowell (talk) 01:28, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Can be easily merged to Jadzia Dax and Ezri Dax Ejfetters (talk) 08:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I believe notability is satisfied. The history of this character is so complex that a separate article is helpful and encyclopedic. Presentation would get messy if it was merged into List of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine characters; multiple levels of headings already display poorly in some other lists. (It might be helpful to add a disambiguation template, at least temporarily, as this would assist with DAB using WP:POPUPS.) However, if the decision is Merge, then it should be to the DS9 list. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per 23skidoo and DHowell. Dax is notable. Oh, and WP:FICT is garbage. --Pixelface (talk) 14:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Merge as above per the recommendation at WP:FICT, even if poor Pixelface disagrees with it. Real-world significance is lacking, a point reinforced by the fancrufty references cited by DHowell above. Eusebeus (talk) 19:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Please keep the Newspeak to a minimum. --Pixelface (talk) 19:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Keep as a notable character in an important SF show, with outside-of-universe notability shown. One link has flash or some other busy program on it. Bearian (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
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