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'''''Newbie'''''{{efn|Also '''''newb''''', '''''noob''''', '''''newby''''', '''''newbie''''', '''''newbee''''', '''''noobie''''', '''''n00b''''', '''''nub''''', and '''''nubie'''''.}} is a ] term for a ], ], or somebody inexperienced in a given profession or activity. In particular, it may refer to a new user of ], and often concerns ] activity, such as ]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/Misc/welaish.html |title=MIT.edu |publisher=Web.mit.edu |access-date=July 9, 2012 |archive-date=July 8, 2012 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120708225739/http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/Misc/welaish.html |url-status=dead }}</ref> or ] use.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.linuxquestions.org/ |title=LinuxQuestions.org |publisher=LinuxQuestions.org |access-date=July 9, 2012 |archive-date=February 7, 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180207010101/https://www.linuxquestions.org/ |url-status=live }}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://ubuntuforums.org/ |title=Ubuntu Forums |publisher=Ubuntu Forums |access-date=July 9, 2012 |archive-date=May 3, 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220503233544/https://ubuntuforums.org/ |url-status=live }}</ref>
'''Newbie''' is a slang term for a newcomer to ] or an ] activity. It can also be used for any other activity in whose context a somewhat clueless newcomer could exist. It can have derogatory connotations, but is also often used for descriptive purposes only, without a value judgment.


The origin of this term is uncertain. Earliest uses probably date to late twentieth century ] ], though possible precursor terms date much earlier. The related term '''noob''' (often stylized as '']'') is frequently used in online gaming.
== Origin ==
⚫ Before it entered popular discourse by way of the Internet, the term "newbie" had a limited usage among U.S. troops in the ] as a slang term for a new man in a unit.<ref>Entry for ''newbie'' in John Robert Elting, Ernest L. Deal, and Dan Cragg, ''A Dictionary of Soldier Talk'' (New York: Scribner, 1984), 209. ISBN 0684178621</ref>


==History==
==Alternative spellings==
The etymology of the term is uncertain. It may derive from "newie", which is attested in U.S. and Australian sources of the 1850s, meaning a neophyte in a place or situation; alternatively, it may derive from the British ] slang "new boy" or "new blood", which is attributed to the same era and was applied to a schoolboy in his first term.<ref name="oed">" {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200327185742/https://public.oed.com/help/ |date=March 27, 2020 }}" ''The Oxford English Dictionary'', 2nd ed., 1989, ''OED Online'', Oxford University Press, (subscription needed) March 8, 2010.</ref>
"Newbie" can be used as a term to identify newcomers to a game, place, or organization. The variant spellings of "newbie" are also used, especially in online games, as a catch-all insult regardless of the recipient's actual skill or experience. Someone who acts like a "newbie," but isn't one would be referred to as one of the variant spellings. The variant "noob" has become common in spoken English by juveniles. Alternate spellings include "newb", "n00b", "noob", "nooblet", "nub", and the recently popular "nublet." These alternate spellings of the term, other than "newb," inherit the definition of "newbie" but are generally used in a derogatory manner to indicate uselessness because of the ignorance associated with being a newcomer.


⚫ In the 1960s and 1970s, the term "newbie" had a limited usage among U.S. troops in the ] as a slang term for a new man in a unit.<ref>Entry for ''newbie'' in John Robert Elting, Ernest L. Deal, and Dan Cragg, ''A Dictionary of Soldier Talk'', New York: ], 1984, p. 209. {{ISBN|0-684-17862-1}}</ref>
In online games, mainly ]s such as ] or ], a greater distinction may be made between a "newb" and a "noob." The common consensus is that a "newb" is someone who through their very nature of being a new player is inexperienced and naive to particular gaming mechanics or etiquette, whereas a "noob" is a player that is generally considered to be experienced, yet often makes mistakes or solecisms that would more likely be attributed to a "newb." The term "noob" can also be applied to someone who is experienced, but blatantly disregards rules and etiquette.


Another use of the term newbee was the moniker given to new U.S. Navy recruit students attending Basic Electricity and Electronics school by more senior students, a requisite course prior to enrollment in the A-school course at Naval Air Technical Training Center, ].{{citation needed|date=August 2017}}
There are a multitude of words that have emerged from the original "Newbie", each with their own meaning and origins. There are such terms like "nubcakes" or "nubotron" which emerged from generally gamers expressing their anger of success with their fellow players. The general rule is to use the nub- or noob- stems in order to create specific insults or expletives, as in "nooblet," or "nubcracker."


The earliest appearance of the term on ] may have been on the ] ''talk.bizarre''.<ref name="esr">{{cite web |title=Newbie |url=https://www.lysator.liu.se/hackdict/split2/newbie.html |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151221112546/http://www.lysator.liu.se/hackdict/split2/newbie.html |archive-date=December 21, 2015 |access-date=July 17, 2024 |work=] |publisher=Lysator, the Academic Computer Society}}</ref> <span data-darkreader-inline-color="" data-darkreader-inline-bgcolor="">By 1988, it had already entered online usage.</span><ref>{{cite newsgroup |title=Re: some (should-be) ground-rules for submissions to comp.binaries.* |author=Dyker, Barbara |date=May 31, 1988 |newsgroup=comp.sys.mac |url=http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac/msg/68659de9d2d8e42d?hl=en |access-date=May 5, 2009 |archive-date=September 27, 2011 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110927085309/http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac/msg/68659de9d2d8e42d?hl=en |url-status=live}}</ref>
The ] term ''chobo'' (초보) has roughly the same connotations as "newbie", and has been popularized in the ] speaking world via the presence of large numbers of South Koreans in some online gaming communities. The antonym of ''chobo'' is '']'' (고수).


Coming from an oral tradition, the term has various spellings. Among alternative forms are "newby", "nubie", and "newbee" (e.g. '']'' of August 1985: "It had to do with newbees. I could be wrong on the spelling, but newbies are the rookies among the ].").<ref name="oed"/>
==Meanings==
Newbie and the alternate spellings are often used for one of two different meanings. Newbie is usually used to refer to a new person who has recently joined the group of bored, and is a rank default on ] forums. Several alternate spellings and occasionally the original word, are used to refer to a member who is generally unwanted or disliked in the community, and is often used as part of ] or ].


In 2000, ] released ]. The game featured a tutorial house with a family called The Newbies.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.thegamer.com/the-sims-longest-existing-families/|title=The Sims: The Longest Existing Families|work=]|publisher=]|date=January 21, 2020|author=Ericka Blye|access-date=March 25, 2021|archive-date=February 27, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200227091840/https://www.thegamer.com/the-sims-longest-existing-families/|url-status=live}}</ref>
==Internet Relay Chat==
In ], newbies may be either discouraged or encouraged, depending on the particular channel. There are channels on any of the major networks dedicated to catering to newbie questions and getting into the IRC community. However, beyond the scope of these introductory rooms there are many channels where common newbie mistakes are not tolerated. This may include repeating the same sentence, begging for ], immature insult slinging, attacking an operator, usage of colour, and the use of channel bot search and file list commands (such as <code>!find</code> or <code>@search</code>). Most channels have rules that are posted as a link in the topic or sent to the user as an on-join message. Breaking the rules or established policy can result in an instant ].


==Connotations of variants==
==Military usage==
Different spellings can have quite different connotations; so in some contexts a "newb" refers to a beginner who is willing to learn,<ref name=forbes/> while a "]" refers disparagingly to an inexperienced or under-talented hacker or gamer who lacks the determination to learn.<ref name=forbes>{{cite web|url=https://www.forbes.com/2009/04/23/words-online-gaming-opinions-books-newbs.html|title=Gamer Speak for Newbs|work=]|author=Broek, Anna Vander|date=April 23, 2009|access-date=February 16, 2010|archive-date=April 9, 2012|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120409134803/http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/23/words-online-gaming-opinions-books-newbs.html|url-status=live}}</ref>
The term ], "nuclear unready body", or N.U.B. was coined in the submariner world. A brand new sailor reporting aboard a submarine had to earn his "dolphins" (submarine-qualification: learning everything about a submarine in order to quickly and decisively assist in damage control).<ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=17468 | publisher=US Navy | title= USS Tucson Submariners Earn Dolphins in Record Time | accessdate=2007-03-15}}</ref> Until the sailor became so qualified, he could not do his assigned function aboard the submarine. During this time, he was declared a non-useful-body, and was generally harassed until he completed it. The term has since migrated to the surface fleet, and is used to negatively refer to new sailors, who are not as experienced and useful as their shipmates.


The origin of "nub" means "non-usable body" in the context of military submarines. It referred to crew that were too new to contribute, while wasting precious oxygen.
==Usage in popular culture==
*] in the TV show '']'' continuously refers to his protégé ] (J.D.) as "Newbie" as a way of breaking his spirits and constantly reminding him who's in charge. (This has been going on since the series began in ].)
*In '']'', the character ] weapon is the ], a joke on the fact that many people who ] ] are noobs.
*In '']'' video game, the tutorial family with which the player learns how to play the game are named Bob and Betty Newbie.
*In the webcomic ], The strips and describe the behaviors of "newbs" and "noobs".
*In the internet TV series, '']'', the main character Jeremy says the catchphrase, "I ] noobs", meaning he dominates lower ranking players.
*In the online game '']'', one enemy that the player may face in the Valley of Rof L'm Fao is a "Lamz0r N00b." Their attacks include "omgwtf"ing the player and asking "how u mine 4 fish?," a reference to noobspeak. In the same game, the area where new players are taught the basics of gameplay is called Mt. Noob.
*In the game '']'', there is an ] called Noober (obviously from noob), who talks to the party for a while before running out of things to say. His purpose in the game is to annoy the player (he also gives experience if the player waits long enough). There is also a character in the sequel, '']'', named Neeber (variation of newb), who is commonly thought of as the brother of Noober. Both characters can be killed by the player without fear of provoking the town guards or citizens.
*In '']'' an ] in Oreburgh City encourages the player to advance in the game to avoid being like a "total noob".
*In the webseries '']'' is a group of background characters called the {{rvbchar|Grunts}} who parody stereotypical Halo gamers, and "noob" is one of the terms commonly used by the group.


==Similar terms in other languages==
==Game definition of Noob==
* In ], the equivalent term is ''''']''''' or '''''hasu''''', the opposite of '']'', meaning "highly skilled".{{citation needed|date=May 2017}}
===Noob===
* In ], ''''']''''' ({{Lang-zh |t=菜鳥 |s=菜鸟 |p=càiniǎo |l=vegetable bird }}). It either originated from ]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.chinaonlineedu.com/tougao/special.asp?id=96 |language=zh-hans |author=都市汉子 |title=试论网络语言的基本特点上 |trans-title=On the Basic Characteristics of Internet Slangs |date=2005-07-04 |access-date=2018-10-31 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20051201120216/http://www.chinaonlineedu.com/tougao/special.asp?id=96 |archive-date=2005-12-01}}</ref> or from the ].{{citation needed|date=March 2019}} It became an ].
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The game definition of noob is usually someone, often in online games who acts in offensive ways to other users or people that surround them and refuse to go away, or stay by any other methods for the sole purpose of annoying others. The word noob can also mean in an online game someone who did something stupid, or asked an obvious question. For example, if someone asks a question answered in the FAQ or is common knowledge, others will call that person a noob.


===Newb=== ==See also==
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Newb is also considered a relatively new person to a game that is inexperienced and doesn't know what they are doing. This term is often addressed as newb(Newbie). However, in recent times this term is infrequently used and has been widely accepted as being replaced by noob.
* ], another term for someone new to a unit used in the ]
* ], a pejorative term for inexperienced computer users


===Nub=== == Notes ==
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Nub is another spelling of noob. Sometimes, nubs are used to describe people who are worse then noobs. The general explanation is that a "nub" is so bad, that it is a waste of time to type two o's for this person. Therefore, the double o is replaced by u.

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Latest revision as of 21:35, 20 December 2024

Slang term for a novice or newcomerFor other uses, see Newbie (disambiguation).

Newbie is a slang term for a novice, newcomer, or somebody inexperienced in a given profession or activity. In particular, it may refer to a new user of computers, and often concerns Internet activity, such as online gaming or Linux use.

The origin of this term is uncertain. Earliest uses probably date to late twentieth century United States Armed Forces jargon, though possible precursor terms date much earlier. The related term noob (often stylized as n00b) is frequently used in online gaming.

History

The etymology of the term is uncertain. It may derive from "newie", which is attested in U.S. and Australian sources of the 1850s, meaning a neophyte in a place or situation; alternatively, it may derive from the British public school slang "new boy" or "new blood", which is attributed to the same era and was applied to a schoolboy in his first term.

In the 1960s and 1970s, the term "newbie" had a limited usage among U.S. troops in the Vietnam War as a slang term for a new man in a unit.

Another use of the term newbee was the moniker given to new U.S. Navy recruit students attending Basic Electricity and Electronics school by more senior students, a requisite course prior to enrollment in the A-school course at Naval Air Technical Training Center, Millington, Tennessee.

The earliest appearance of the term on the Internet may have been on the Usenet newsgroup talk.bizarre. By 1988, it had already entered online usage.

Coming from an oral tradition, the term has various spellings. Among alternative forms are "newby", "nubie", and "newbee" (e.g. Los Angeles Times of August 1985: "It had to do with newbees. I could be wrong on the spelling, but newbies are the rookies among the Blue Angels.").

In 2000, Electronic Arts released The Sims. The game featured a tutorial house with a family called The Newbies.

Connotations of variants

Different spellings can have quite different connotations; so in some contexts a "newb" refers to a beginner who is willing to learn, while a "noob" refers disparagingly to an inexperienced or under-talented hacker or gamer who lacks the determination to learn.

The origin of "nub" means "non-usable body" in the context of military submarines. It referred to crew that were too new to contribute, while wasting precious oxygen.

Similar terms in other languages

See also

  • FNG, another term for someone new to a unit used in the Vietnam War
  • Luser, a pejorative term for inexperienced computer users

Notes

  1. Also newb, noob, newby, newbie, newbee, noobie, n00b, nub, and nubie.

References

  1. "MIT.edu". Web.mit.edu. Archived from the original on July 8, 2012. Retrieved July 9, 2012.
  2. "LinuxQuestions.org". LinuxQuestions.org. Archived from the original on February 7, 2018. Retrieved July 9, 2012.
  3. "Ubuntu Forums". Ubuntu Forums. Archived from the original on May 3, 2022. Retrieved July 9, 2012.
  4. ^ "newbie Archived March 27, 2020, at the Wayback Machine" The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed., 1989, OED Online, Oxford University Press, (subscription needed) March 8, 2010.
  5. Entry for newbie in John Robert Elting, Ernest L. Deal, and Dan Cragg, A Dictionary of Soldier Talk, New York: Scribner, 1984, p. 209. ISBN 0-684-17862-1
  6. "Newbie". The Hacker's Dictionary. Lysator, the Academic Computer Society. Archived from the original on December 21, 2015. Retrieved July 17, 2024.
  7. Dyker, Barbara (May 31, 1988). "Re: some (should-be) ground-rules for submissions to comp.binaries.*". Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac. Archived from the original on September 27, 2011. Retrieved May 5, 2009.
  8. Ericka Blye (January 21, 2020). "The Sims: The Longest Existing Families". The Gamer. Webtoon. Archived from the original on February 27, 2020. Retrieved March 25, 2021.
  9. ^ Broek, Anna Vander (April 23, 2009). "Gamer Speak for Newbs". Forbes. Archived from the original on April 9, 2012. Retrieved February 16, 2010.
  10. 都市汉子 (July 4, 2005). "试论网络语言的基本特点上" [On the Basic Characteristics of Internet Slangs] (in Simplified Chinese). Archived from the original on December 1, 2005. Retrieved October 31, 2018.

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