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| ==Max Mini== | ==Max Mini== | ||
| Does anyone have any proof that Max Mini was supposed to be lowered to the ring with Owen? It has been said that the reason for the quick release rigging was for Owen to perform a prat fall into the ring. So if the plan was for Owen to fall (a relatively short distance), why would they have Owen (a 250 pound man) fall 10 feet (the reported height of the planned fall) onto a midget wrestler he was holding? But then again nothing about the event makes any sense.]16:10 11 September 2006 (EDT) | Does anyone have any proof that Max Mini was supposed to be lowered to the ring with Owen? It has been said that the reason for the quick release rigging was for Owen to perform a prat fall into the ring. So if the plan was for Owen to fall (a relatively short distance), why would they have Owen (a 250 pound man) fall 10 feet (the reported height of the planned fall) onto a midget wrestler he was holding? But then again nothing about the event makes any sense.]16:10 11 September 2006 (EDT) | ||
| ] Hi there, To answer your question, Max Mini was never involved. Owen was 227 pounds not 250. I watched the Dark Side of the Ring documentary and his wife Martha said it was a sailing clipped used for mass that killed Owen by making him fall. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> | |||
| ==The Game== | |||
| The stuff aboot Owen being the Game. Is this documented anywhere or just rumour?(] 08:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)) | |||
| Is there any reliable source for the claim that HHH's nickname "The Game" was originally meant for Owen??? I can't find any source for it on the internet except for IMDB.com which isn't all that reliable when it comes to wrestling info... | |||
| :Paul "HHH" Levesque has confirmed it in interviews. | |||
| * thats really weird. i always suspected his character was going towards being the game. being that damn good. real shame | |||
| ==RAW is Owen== | |||
| I think it's important enough. I think we should do a wiki on '']''. --] 11:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Dear whom ever it may concer owen hart was a 4 time tag team champ... | |||
| Owen Hart & Yokozuna | |||
| Sept. 25, 1995 | |||
| Owen Hart & Yokozuna's second World Tag Team Championship reign didn't last more than an hour or so. At In Your House 3, the duo lost the titles to Diesel & Shawn Michaels, but Owen did not show up until the latter stages of the match as The British Bulldog had taken his place up to that point. Hart was pinned, but the next night on RAW, the team's lawyer, Clarence Mason, threatened legal action against WWE if the titles were not given back to Hart & Yokozuna. He stated that since Owen did not start the match, his being pinned was illegal. The titles were returned to Hart & Yokozuna, but they then defended the same titles against The Smokin' Gunns later in the evening and were beaten again, and this time the total change stuck. | |||
| :By your own explantion Owen was NOT a four time champion, Diesel & Shawn were forced to give the titles back to Owen & Yoko, they never legally won them - so Owen & Yoko never legally lost them either, it was a "Dusty Finish". This is along the lines of the Jericho/HHH title change that happened and was then undone. Unless someone disagrees it should be changed back to 3 times tag-team champion. ] 20:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Owen 3:16 == | |||
| "Owen 3:16 says 'I just broke your neck'." - I remember seeing this on t-shirts and references made on WWF TV, but did Owen actually say this? Anybody remember? ] 14:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I dunno, but it's a very memorable quote! I've been after that t-shirt for years... was it ever released for fans???? | |||
| :There should probably be a part in his wrestling career mentioning the origins of the catchphrase. I don't have a direct reference, but I believe he said it to incorporate the Steve Austin incident in with his character (Hart legitimately broke Austin's neck with a botched piledriver... check the Austin page for details).] 20:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Death == | |||
| It says viewers at home didn't see the Death, but I'm quite sure they did. My father watched it, and I started watching it a minute after it happened. I was watching PPV in Canada, they weren't showing the promotions. Maybe it was different in the USA? | |||
| :In the USA they were on the crowd the whole time (they were on a seven delay and were able to edit Owen's death). ] 02:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I have the original pay per view on tape (A friend of mine taped it off pay per view live) and is no footage of either Owen falling nor the ring after the fall. Jim Ross introduced the video package and when it came back the camera stayed on the crowd until it was cleared. The camera then showed Jim Ross and a visibly shaken Jerry Lawler at the announce table. They introduced the video package or the next match and that was it. No footage of anything. ]16:00 11 September 2006 (EDT) | |||
| == About his death == | |||
| Is the footage shown in the article is really his death? becuse some people claim the footge is a New Jack bump? | |||
| That bump was taken by ] against New Jack in an XPW scaffold match in February 2002. Owen Hart's death was never seen on PPV. ] 14:24, July 10th, 2006 (EDT) | |||
| I'm reading Owen's wife's book at the moment, and it wasn't that a WWF logo was placed next to his flowers but that a WWF logo was made entirely out of flowers, which she had changed to Owen's initials. I have changed this on the page. Also, she made note that a friend's son (in Canada) was watching the pay-per-view, but did NOT see the actual death because the cameras quickly panned away in her area, as well. | |||
| :Let's clear this up once and for all: | |||
| :*Owen Hart's fall was not show on the PPV broadcast. A pre-taped promo was airing on the broadcast when Owen fell from the rafters during preparation for his stunt. | |||
| :*No footage of Owen in the ring after the fall was aired, due to WWE production utilizing the several-second delay in broadcasting, and keeping the live feed focused on the audience instead of the ring. | |||
| :*Footage of said fall is not likely to exist anywhere outside of the WWE tape library, if such footage even exists and is viewable (since Kemper Arena had been darkened for the promo & planned stunt). | |||
| :*The ''Over The Edge'' event on 23 May 1999 remains one of the few WWE PPV events that has never been legitimately released on video in any format. - ] 08:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| wer rt at 2233 | |||
| Okay well,owen's death was just sooo graphic and well i was only 5 but i was there and i remember i just, i was dressed in blue blazer attire, and the sad thing was, there was an undertaker match that night as listed in the article my friend had a sign saying owen can rest. | |||
| in peace i havent talked to him ever since.I myself have a video containing pictures of owens harts death and the kemper arena is very dark and it had nothing to do with a scaffold at all that was a low budget XPW match Owen R.I.P | |||
| == Raw is Owen == | |||
| It is written that the Undertaker was the only one not on stage on the tribute Raw following Owens death. Does anyone know why? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 19:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
| apparently wwe/wwf thought it a good idea not to have "the deadman" on stage as it may have been a bit tactless. I see thei] 19:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)r point | |||
| :Is there any way of putting that in the article? Because reading it, to me at least, it came off as there being some kind of bad blood between the two or Undertaker was being disrespectful ] 19:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Undertaker actually went to visit Bret in-person. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 03:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
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| ==Early professional career== | |||
| Last night (7 Jun 07) on ESPN Classic in the UK they showed a tag-team bout from World Of Sport in which Dave Fit Finlay wrestled Owen Hart. The commentator, by alluding to Bret Hart, confirmed it was this Owen (besides the fact it clearly was him visually), aged 18, wrestling on national UK TV. Surely this then pre-dates the articles 1986 professional debut?? He won the preliminary bout two falls to one, with another gentleman who apparently was a Hart brother but I didn't recognise either him nor the name. Sadly apart from knowing he definitely wrestled in 1983 on World of Sport, I have no further information. ] 18:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == The harness stunt == | |||
| Was the harness stunt akin to what Shawn Michael's did at Wrestlemania or was it like what Sting used to do in WCW? | |||
| I think it would be important to point this out. | |||
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| No. As publicised, Owen's death was due to the "quick-release" mechanism the WWF had installed onto the harness/wire being caught by something. Shawn Michaels & Sting had lots of safety mechanisms, but due to Vince's perfectionism, the landing of Owen's character "wasn't quite right", so they added a quick-release mechanism which only required 6lbs of pressure to release. Therefore it's totally different to those stunts. (] 09:54, 3 August 2007 (UTC)) | |||
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== Separate article on Hart's death == | ||
| I think probably there needs to be a separate article ]. The topic is too long to be all on this article, and since it extends years after his death, doesn't belong under the article about the wrestling event either. ] (]) 14:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| I'm asking for a verifiable source on people finding Austin's tribute controversial and Austin's alleged dislike of Owen, since ''Have A Nice Day!'' recounts an instance of Mick, Owen & Steve having a great time together after his neck injury. | |||
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Max Mini
Does anyone have any proof that Max Mini was supposed to be lowered to the ring with Owen? It has been said that the reason for the quick release rigging was for Owen to perform a prat fall into the ring. So if the plan was for Owen to fall (a relatively short distance), why would they have Owen (a 250 pound man) fall 10 feet (the reported height of the planned fall) onto a midget wrestler he was holding? But then again nothing about the event makes any sense.Ganley89416:10 11 September 2006 (EDT)
Ganley894 Hi there, To answer your question, Max Mini was never involved. Owen was 227 pounds not 250. I watched the Dark Side of the Ring documentary and his wife Martha said it was a sailing clipped used for mass that killed Owen by making him fall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingzwest (talk • contribs)
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Separate article on Hart's death
I think probably there needs to be a separate article Death of Owen Hart. The topic is too long to be all on this article, and since it extends years after his death, doesn't belong under the article about the wrestling event either. FOARP (talk) 14:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
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