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== Battle of Umberkhind == | |||
Hi, we saw your messages and your threats to delete the article. The article was contributed by two undergraduate freshmen students from the University of Wisconsin Stevens Point. I think other than being so critical, you should appreciate that students take the time to contribute to wiki. Frankly, I think you are being very arrogant and instead of helping us or providing suggestions to improve the article, you are putting off people from contributing. I am their Professor and as a class we contributed to over 15 species on wiki. The students spent time in the library gathering resources and thanks to people like you feel that their work actually don't mean anything.] (]) 17:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)B. Thiagarajan | |||
:I frankly don't care. If you are their professor, then help them follow the needs of the encyclopedia. When material is added with only citation at the bottom, unlinked to the added material, it is very difficult for me and other editors to ] the material that was added. I have only your word that what was added was good and, several times, the edits were '''not''' good in that they removed various categorization of interwiki linkages, besides being very difficult to verify. If you want your students to contribute to Misplaced Pages, I suggest you first learn what it takes to make a Good Article or a Featured Article. Then you can guide them more properly. - ] ] 18:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Etiquette] (]) 21:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)B. Thiagarajan | |||
:]. - ] ] 04:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hi @], you just added an template to ]. I think it was a mistake, can we please discuss it here? ] (]) 15:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== User:Zozja == | |||
:It was previously G5'd and looks to be another recreation of the same. - ] ] 15:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::yes, I am editing to page again. It is a notable battle but was poorly written by previous author. ] (]) 15:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
:::Please remove the template. Once I edit the page, other editors can review it again. | |||
:::I saw ], not many participated in it. It is a notable article, can be proved if needed. ] (]) 15:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::The G5 is unrelated to the discussion. They happened coincidentally. - ] ] 15:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::@] You are an experienced editor, can you please help me. I don't know what G5 means, can you please attach the link of that discussion or please explain it to me. ] (]) 16:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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You may want to reconsider your speedy tag on this article. Yes, it's a stub and it only has one source, but in theory any widely distributed video game for any widely distributed games console should be notable. You can put it to AfD to see what the community makes of it, as I don't know what the current consensus is on the notability of computer and video games.--''']''' <sup>'']''</sup> <sub>''']'''</sub> 19:03, 14 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Ok. - ] ] 04:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hi @], Please do not block me. I am not a sockpuppet, I just took the article from the draftspace and started editing it. ] (]) 16:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Felidae == | |||
:That's a mistake, please check it again. ] (]) 16:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Why did you revert all my edition on ]? The fact I added was from English Misplaced Pages itself. I just updated it for integrity. Please trace each article if you see that which one is wrong. (especially some subspecies and the extinct subfamily that actually existed) I must recover them back for keeping information. I also use these data on Thai Misplaced Pages too: ] --] (]) 10:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::i was not aware that the ai chatbot was used by previous author. ] (]) 16:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:You are incorrect. With the exception of the ], none of your changes are valid. The ] and the ] are both full species, and the list of extinct taxa is not needed on that page. - ] ] 11:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::According to ], it said it was considered a subspecies of the Colocolo and the topic Subspecies contains only Colocolo names. They already has reference. Should I believe in its citation or your quotation? Or is it totally wrong?--] (]) 13:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::'Was' is past tense. 'Is' is current. It ''was'' considered a subspecies. It ''is'' now considered a species. See {{MSW3}}. - ] ] 13:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::That means it occurred in the past. That is okay; it causes of my misunderstanding. Thanks for pointing me out. But how will you manage Pampas Cat's subspecies list? --] (]) 13:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::I've already fixed it. - ] ] 14:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Question from ] (19:56, 21 December 2024) == | |||
== Thank You == | |||
hello, do you know why my contribution menu is grayed out --] (]) 19:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Too bad some of it was reverted. Oh well. It'll get vandalized again.... - ] ] 04:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Govden}} Is it still? At the time you asked, you had no contributions as your question was your first contribution. - ] ] 01:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
==You reverted some of my edits using pop-ups== | |||
::It still is, but I managed to still submit an article for publication, just edited some of the citations/links so hopefully it'll publish soon. Thanks. ] (]) 10:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
You recently undid some edits of mine using pop-ups. Specifically, you undid my removal of ] from ], and another category or two. Just posting here to request that you please not try to revert those edits again (or similar ones), I'm trying to streamline ], by removing its subcategories that were already sub-categories of subcategories. That kind of redundant categorization was keeping the whole category needlessly cluttered. Sorry if I sound like a cry baby. Have fun with future edits. <3 | |||
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==Re:] reversion== | |||
Uther, I noticed that you had reverted the made by ] regarding the association of compound 1080 baits and "changed fire regimens" to the decline of tiger quoll populations. I've read a couple studies that show that 1080 baits effect quoll populations, and that quolls are very susceptible to such baits. I'm not sure about the statement regarding fire regimen. Do you think we should include Zoidberg's statement if properly sourced? ] (]) 09:32, 22 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, that would be fine. As it stands, they had not only added that information, but had also removed predation information. That looks like vandalism to me. - ] ] 14:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Perhaps, but there is the chance that they felt that the two factors with which they replaced the existing language were the "primary" factors. I support your revert, and if I decide to take the time will incorporate the other factors that have been shown to contribute to the quolls' decline into the article. ] (]) 04:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Gaur == | |||
== Don't revert my edits for no reason == | |||
I have seen many people referring gaur as "Indian bison" and even on the internet so should I write "also known as the "Indian bison" or not? ] (]) 16:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Hi there, I just noticed that you reverted an important edit I made a few weeks ago . Why did you do that? Did you even check the edit? Would you prefer to allow blatantly untrue information to stay in Misplaced Pages than to allow anonymous users to make edits? Please be more careful in the future. ] (]) 15:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No, '''you''' should be more careful. Misplaced Pages edits should ] a ] and ]. You removed information that has such a citation. Can you provide a reference that contradicts the information you wish to remove? - ] ] 15:22, 25 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::You don't need to cite verifiable sources to ''remove'' ridiculous bullshit. But I assume that a contradiction of the ludicrous assertion that humans are the most populous mammalian species is OK to falsify the statement. indicates that there are 1.25 billion rats in the United States and 10 rats for every person in India; these two countries' rat populations alone double the world's human population. I can't find any reliable estimates for the mouse population of the world, but it doesn't matter; the statement I am removing is about the world's human population. ] (]) 22:57, 25 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::The statement does not say anything about how many mammal species are more populous than humans only that, after humans, the House Mouse is the next most populous. It doesn't matter that there are, perhaps, more rats (which species?) than humans. - ] ] 00:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Can you cite a ]? If yes, then do it and cite the source. If not, then no. It doesn't matter what you know or have heard, it matters what you can prove. - ] ] 16:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Why did you revert my edits ? All new points were well referenced.--''']''' <sup>] '''·''' ]</sup> 00:16, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:You added new points? I couldn't tell with the extreme makeover you gave the article. Leave the structure, restore the points. - ] ] 00:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Why? What's wrong with the new structure? I was ] in my editing — It was in a bad state and I added plenty of new info and reorganised.--''']''' <sup>] '''·''' ]</sup> 00:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Question from ] on ] (16:14, 26 December 2024) == | |||
I don't wish to be impolite or unfair, but I feel that your use of the rollback button there was completely unjustified, UtherSRG. Rollback is exclusively for vandalism and very disruptive edits. Changing the structure of a page is no reason to revert in any circumstance, and certianly not to use rollback. This talk page tells a short story about various complaints regarding some of your reversions, and while I don't care to examine them all, the pattern is disturbing. Rollback should never be used in editing disputes - perhaps a decent rule of thumb is that if you'd give the user a warning for their actions, you can use rollback. Certainly not the case here. Thanks, :) ]''']''' 00:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:]. I typically use popups and the rollback buttons liberally. To do otherwise would be inefficient. - ] ] 04:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I'm afraid I strongly disagree with that sentiment. As is stated ], using rollback "is a slap in the face to a good-faith editor". Ignore all rules should not be an excuse to save yourself the effort of typing a proper summary, and it certainly isn't "inefficient" to either constructively explain your reasons for a revert of a good faith editor in the summary, or attempt to fix the error rather than rollback the whole thing. I would ask you reconsider your use of the rollback tool in such editing disputes. ] <small><font color="red">(aka ])</font></small> 15:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::You work your way, I'll work mine. 90% or more of my reverts are not of good faith, and the majority of the good faith ones needed the revert anyway. I'm not going to craft a unique edit summary for each of them. That's too time consuming and that's where I invoke ] - ] ] 16:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::I think that were you not an admin, you would have been blocked by someone by now. This is the standard course of action where a user abuses an editing tool (popups/twinkle/rollback) to gain the upper hand in an editing dispute or, more relevantly in this case, to make rash reverts which are not supported in any policy. IAR does not give you carte blanche to do as you wish - the wording is something like "Ignore rules if they prevent you from improving the enycylopedia". I am of the opinion that by invoking IAR you have in fact broken it, because some of your reverts mentioned above do in no way improve the encyclopedia - who ''cares'' about dodgy formatting if there is new content, and believe me the encyclopedia will be far worse off when you ]. Consider this a final warning - any further abuse of the rollback tool may result in a block or a report to the relevant noticeboard. I am sorry to have to take such a tone with you, but have been left no choice. Thanks, ]''']''' 17:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::Having to make an edit summary for every reversion '''does''' prevent me from improving the encyclopedia. If you want me to stop using the tools available, I'll simply leave *no* edit summary instead of the generic one the tool leaves. That's simply done by going to the version I want to revert to, editing it, and saving. - ] ] 17:26, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::I'd still be concerned that you're reverting good faith edits with no good reason, thus prevetning other users from improving the encyclopedia. If a user introduces few errors in addition to some new content, a revert is never the answer. Either fix it yourself, or have a chat with the user in question. The dismissive tone you used with Phoenix-wiki above would be borderline ], were Phoenix-wiki not an established editor. ]''']''' 17:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Being an admin does not make you immune. You are not the ]. I see this a lot of this on Misplaced Pages and it's terrible. Admins think they have the right to do anything, and be immune from all policies and guideline and other things, and talk however they want. '''You are not'''. ] The behavior of an admin should be much higher than that. --<small>(])</small> ] <sup>]</sup><small>]<sub>]</sub></small> 17:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::::I'm a litle concerned with this too, as I feel that you are acting a bit too offhand and uncaring, even if this is not how you truly feel. Every edit should be treated as good faith except in obvious cases, and this was certainly not one of those. As every edit should be treated as good faith, then this revert went against both ] and ]. :-) ] <small>]</small> 17:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
I am not trying to be rude or offhanded. I'm stating my position. Jimbo has said that of all the rules, IAR is the most important. - ] ] 18:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:And I agree with that, when it is used in the right way, but I personally think that using it in this way is not what it was intended for. Apologies if I have been a bit uncivil, I'm quite tired at the moment. :-) ] <small>]</small> 19:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
first step learning to edit or programming --] (]) 16:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Let's everyone give their opinion.... - ] ] 21:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:First step: Learn to ask your questions and make your statements in full sentences. I have no idea what you want here. - ] ] 20:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Kangaroo == | |||
== Question from ] (18:53, 26 December 2024) == | |||
I have added a note on talk. Lets discuss. Regards, ] 21:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
How do I put a game inside a article --] (]) 18:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
:You don't. - ] ] 20:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
I have reverted of minor, good faith edits by an anonymous contributor to the ] article. Please take more care in future when determining the best way to revert a not-entirely-constructive edit. In this case, the user corrected a glaring gramatical error about islands on which the animal is found, which your reversion reintroduced. - ] 16:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, could you include reasons in your summaries in future? Thanks ;-)--]]] 18:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I do when I think it is required. - ] ] 21:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Battle of Umberkhind
Hi @UtherSRG, you just added an template to battle of umberkhind. I think it was a mistake, can we please discuss it here? PerspicazHistorian (talk) 15:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- It was previously G5'd and looks to be another recreation of the same. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- yes, I am editing to page again. It is a notable battle but was poorly written by previous author. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 15:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please remove the template. Once I edit the page, other editors can review it again.
- I saw the discussion, not many participated in it. It is a notable article, can be proved if needed. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 15:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- The G5 is unrelated to the discussion. They happened coincidentally. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @UtherSRG You are an experienced editor, can you please help me. I don't know what G5 means, can you please attach the link of that discussion or please explain it to me. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 16:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- The G5 is unrelated to the discussion. They happened coincidentally. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- yes, I am editing to page again. It is a notable battle but was poorly written by previous author. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 15:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
I am not a sockpuppet
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/WhiteReaperPM
Hi @UtherSRG, Please do not block me. I am not a sockpuppet, I just took the article from the draftspace and started editing it. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 16:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's a mistake, please check it again. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 16:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- i was not aware that the ai chatbot was used by previous author. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 16:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Question from Govden (19:56, 21 December 2024)
hello, do you know why my contribution menu is grayed out --Govden (talk) 19:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Govden: Is it still? At the time you asked, you had no contributions as your question was your first contribution. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- It still is, but I managed to still submit an article for publication, just edited some of the citations/links so hopefully it'll publish soon. Thanks. Govden (talk) 10:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bucerotiformes stubs
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Gaur
I have seen many people referring gaur as "Indian bison" and even on the internet so should I write "also known as the "Indian bison" or not? Eiehel (talk) 16:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Can you cite a reliable source? If yes, then do it and cite the source. If not, then no. It doesn't matter what you know or have heard, it matters what you can prove. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Question from Padzaera016 on Prakash Subedi (lyricist) (16:14, 26 December 2024)
first step learning to edit or programming --Padzaera016 (talk) 16:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- First step: Learn to ask your questions and make your statements in full sentences. I have no idea what you want here. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Question from Blockbusterstu (18:53, 26 December 2024)
How do I put a game inside a article --Blockbusterstu (talk) 18:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- You don't. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)