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| You said ] that you'd never RfA, but please let me know if you ever change your mind. Your ideas on rotating power are interesting. -<span style="font:bold 10px Verdana;display:inline;border:#000066 1px solid;background-color:#ECF1F7;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">]</span><sup>]</sup> 05:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| ::G-n; no, i was not laughing at you; intention was convey that you are too outspoken to pass a witch trial. Admin candidates cannot afford not to pull punches. ] (]) 20:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :::It is that very quality of ''not'' being a politician which I think we should see more often. -<span style="font:bold 10px Verdana;display:inline;border:#000066 1px solid;background-color:#ECF1F7;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">]</span><sup>]</sup> 13:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :By way of explination for my suddenly turning up; you made a very perceptive comment on your user page about a stalking horse a while back; during that badsites hullabloo. I watchlisted you page then (something I rarely do) and its been interesting following you since. I like reading bright people's musings, what can I say. ] (]) 12:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Hi == | |||
| ...which I think will go a long way toward resolving unproductive disputes on pages he and I both edit. Anyone who is interested in voting one way or the other is invited to the discussion . ] 17:08, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| In light of your comments at ] and the views expressed on your user page, I am disappointed that you did not leap to the support of my proposal for parallel articles, suggested and and ]. | |||
| == Enviroknot == | |||
| Mel Etitis never protected Enviroknot's userpage: see . ] ] 06:07, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC) | |||
| The idea seems much in line with your views, but, of course, no one has supported it. --] (]) 17:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| I think you may find this useful: . Cheers, ] ] 21:23, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC) | |||
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| After reviewing the history of the "Sam Blacketer" incident I noticed that you were among the very few who opposed his adminship. I just wanted to compliment everyone who did since all of you had either good instincts, good reasoning and weren't afraid of going against the grain. If you ever seek adminship then please let me know - we need more good admins. ] (]) 00:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Further conversation there seemed out of place. The reason the last attempt at de-adminship went down in flames was the way it was being done. Long story, and it was spread over many pages, just trust me, it was bad. Also, while I do agree there is some merit to having a simple process for de-adminning, upon further review I'm not sure it would be worth the cost. All proposals so far would have resulted in a melee of abuse, hard feelings, and other unproductive edits. There doesn't seem to be a way to allow valid requests for de-adminship and not allow the invalid ones without appearing to be playing favorites. Allowing them all would be a mess and no one would get any work done. The problem is admins stick their necks out and even when following policy and acting in the best interests of Misplaced Pages, they are of course going to anger those they sanction. So there will always be people willing to harass any de-adminship process. The only legitimate process I see to avoid some of the problems would be to have a discussion every year on every admin to reapply. Those that get at least half supports would stay, those no would lose their admin rights. But that still faces the problem of getting harassed by editors who have been legitimately blocked and banned. Also, for those admins clearly following Misplaced Pages policy, they would certainly, and rightly be supported by other admins. That would lead to even greater cries of cronyism. If you have a magic system to avoid enough problems that it would be worth the cost let me know. - ] <sup><small>]</sup></small> 17:56, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :I left the response on my talk page for continuity | |||
| :I was looking at more logs (no I'm not stalking you), and found that you opposed both William Connolley's adminship and Guettarda's. Initially I wasn't going to compliment you for the first one, but then I laughed out loud when I saw the second. At this point I think wikipedian's "requests for adminship" should begin and end with you, but hey, maybe I'm wrong and you are just a polemic. ] (]) 07:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi there! I have no clue why you and Mel Etitis seem to be at each other's throats (figuratively speaking), nor is it really any of my business, but maybe the two of you should consider mediation? Yours, ]]] 10:29, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I agree with Ghost, although I couldn't bring the lilting metaphoric entreaty that he does. I read elsewhere that you were concerned about certain partisans getting their way. I can assure you that while we can't do much about their spew, there are a serious handful of us who have been staunch protectionists of keeping the facts in the article (as NPOV as possible) and the conspiracy garbage out. I recall you were an effective partner in that endeavor and I wish you'd come back. So far as the mediation is concerned, I read between the lines (and perhaps inaccurately) that you didn't have confidence in aspects of the process (I needn't elaborate, particluarly if I misinterpreted your thoughts). That's alright; we could still use your input in the article itself and on the talk page. ] (] 5 July 2005 20:50 (UTC) | |||
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| Just ... O my. | |||
| Check out ]. I'm at a loss about what to do about this matter.--] 22:52, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| (It would be good if you would please date your essay. I -- and I presume others -- would better understand what you're saying if we knew that any particular essay were from, say, 2004, not last week.) | |||
| ] (]) 13:07, 16 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
| Well yeah but all edits are dated anyway and I don't care. I deleted most of it anyway. Don't fool yourself though. Looking around, I see it's still shit, particularly for women. But it's not worth fighting over. ] (]) 19:52, 2 August 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| Hiya Grace Note, thanks for voting on my RfA! I'm sorry if I worded my explanation a little badly, so let me clarify: Everyking's opposition is to one of my proposals, which was to change the requests for admin procedure into a mentoring system. Everyking didn't like what he saw as a step away from democracy and voting (which I explained was incorrect on the RfA page, as my proposal involves discussion and feedback quite prominently). So the irony is you have opposed due to me not following Everyking's proposal, whereas the one thing Everyking thought I did not follow was his democracy view, which you just said you thought was evil! I hope this clears it up :) ] (] | ] | ]) 4 July 2005 01:01 (UTC) | |||
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| I would like to point out both that the date was 05:48, 5 May 2005 (UTC), and that I apologised to SqueakBox that same day. I'm guessing you also biased that out, huh? Not that I care, though. Happy editing. ] 4 July 2005 21:46 (UTC) | |||
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| :Yes, I get it. I didn't realise you were gatekeeping that page. There's no point bullying me. I don't give a fuck. ] (]) 11:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
| Ahh, Grace, how nostalgic tonight's performance is on ].... And back on Earth, {{User|61.129.44.201}}, previously warned on his talk page, has now broken 3RR. You don't happen to be an admin, do you? ] 05:48, 11 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| thx 4 your remarks, grace n, but I did in fact try hard to talk to duck & get his reasons for strange editing behavior, which NO one had agreed to; | |||
| I appreciate your support for him, and yes, my POV is sometimes self-serving, but I msut also be accurate, as there ''is'' truth to many or all of my assertsions | |||
| I may not be retired and have twenty-forevers to edit, but I work with consensus, and try to get input -IF the other parties are willing; While I'm not perfect and you mean well, I think you didn't see the fine details of my answers in the 3RR page; I made numerous efforts, all for the better readibility (not pushing MY websites), so that is selfless, not selfish. We don't get paid, so you can understand how things get hard for editing for free -and add to that the LACK of screening for editors -especially on big articles, where vandals can whack an article like that - a recipe for trouble. | |||
| REad my '''detailed!''' complaint on the 3RR page, and then if you stil have questions, hit me up for a clarification. Take care, --] 13:43, 11 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| I want to add that I think it's good that you suggested Duck not revert too much and get in trouble (but instead to ask other users who would be glad to make the edits/reverts) --I would think (and hope) that if my edits were good, you'd do the same for me; I was only trying to help improve the readibility of the page, not offend anybody; Thank you for your concern, but do know I tried my best as indicated by my contemprary comments at the time.--] 11:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| Due to the rudeness of your vote on this page, your vote was removed along with a statement that was clearly vandalism. You might want to re-make your vote with actual reasoning, rather than an inflamatory statement. ] ] 15:46, July 11, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| First of all, why did you use an IP on my talk. Second, I didn't remove your vote. Third, why don't you try a real vote instead of insulting the proposal and not saying why you don't like it. So I think you should put the vote back yourself with a real reason. ] ] 02:15, July 12, 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| I have two thing to say. In defence of Husnock, it is not rude to respond on your own talk page. I don't like it either, but a lot of users do it. Second, just a breach of the personal attack rule that you might want to know about. From the personal attack section of wikipedia:blocking policy "Derogatory humour only avoids being a personal attack if the subject agrees that it is funny." As Husnock and I don't find your statement funny, it could be considered a personal attack. Happy editing. ] ] 14:44, July 12, 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| I'm not sure where to leave this for you, so I'll leave it here and copy it to Grace Note's talk page. | |||
| I've read some of his comments about her, and I agree they seem unlikely, particularly in light of the autopsy report that half her brain seemed to be missing. However, it remains the case that he's a practising neurologist, that he has no charges of unprofessional conduct against him, that he examined her (unlike many of the doctors who have expressed views), and that he offered a dissenting opinion. Therefore, if the diagnoses of the other seven neurologists who examined her are to be mentioned in the introduction, then so must his, and without comment as to his credibility. | |||
| However, if you read my intro, I also added the brain size from the autopsy report. I did that in order to make it clear that any diagnosis of reversible minimal consciousness was unlikely to have been correct. In controversial articles like this, and particularly in the intros, the facts have to be allowed to speak for themselves in a subtle way. We can't just not mention people, or mention them but then add commentary that poisons the well. | |||
| Finally — and I stress I'm not defending Hammesfahr's diagnosis here — it's perhaps worth remembering that Hammesfahr practises alternative medicine, and such doctors are routinely dismissed as quacks, or accused of wrongdoing, by the medical community for political reasons. ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 03:39, July 13, 2005 (UTC) | |||
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If you ever run for admin, please let me know
You said here that you'd never RfA, but please let me know if you ever change your mind. Your ideas on rotating power are interesting. -moritheil 05:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Har. Ceoil (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- G-n; no, i was not laughing at you; intention was convey that you are too outspoken to pass a witch trial. Admin candidates cannot afford not to pull punches. Ceoil (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- It is that very quality of not being a politician which I think we should see more often. -moritheil 13:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- G-n; no, i was not laughing at you; intention was convey that you are too outspoken to pass a witch trial. Admin candidates cannot afford not to pull punches. Ceoil (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- By way of explination for my suddenly turning up; you made a very perceptive comment on your user page about a stalking horse a while back; during that badsites hullabloo. I watchlisted you page then (something I rarely do) and its been interesting following you since. I like reading bright people's musings, what can I say. Ceoil (talk) 12:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi
In light of your comments at Misplaced Pages talk:Neutrality enforcement and the views expressed on your user page, I am disappointed that you did not leap to the support of my proposal for parallel articles, suggested here and here and here.
The idea seems much in line with your views, but, of course, no one has supported it. --Ravpapa (talk) 17:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Good instincts
After reviewing the history of the "Sam Blacketer" incident I noticed that you were among the very few who opposed his adminship. I just wanted to compliment everyone who did since all of you had either good instincts, good reasoning and weren't afraid of going against the grain. If you ever seek adminship then please let me know - we need more good admins. TheGoodLocust (talk) 00:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was looking at more logs (no I'm not stalking you), and found that you opposed both William Connolley's adminship and Guettarda's. Initially I wasn't going to compliment you for the first one, but then I laughed out loud when I saw the second. At this point I think wikipedian's "requests for adminship" should begin and end with you, but hey, maybe I'm wrong and you are just a polemic. TheGoodLocust (talk) 07:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Lydda and Ramla
Hi Grace Note! I have replied to your comment at Talk:1948 Palestinian exodus from Lydda and Ramla#Images. Please have a look. —Ynhockey 12:49, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
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(I don't know where to start)
Just ... O my. (It would be good if you would please date your essay. I -- and I presume others -- would better understand what you're saying if we knew that any particular essay were from, say, 2004, not last week.) GcT (talk) 13:07, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Well yeah but all edits are dated anyway and I don't care. I deleted most of it anyway. Don't fool yourself though. Looking around, I see it's still shit, particularly for women. But it's not worth fighting over. Grace Note (talk) 19:52, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
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- Yes, I get it. I didn't realise you were gatekeeping that page. There's no point bullying me. I don't give a fuck. Grace Note (talk) 11:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Didn't notice. Don't care. Have a nice day. Grace Note (talk) 03:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)