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| This page was last archived on Saturday, February 2. The most recent comments can be found in ]. For a complete list of archives, please see ]. If you wish to leave me a new message, please click <span class="plainlinks"></span>. Cheers, ] (]) 11:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| == ''The Signpost'': 24 December 2024 == | |||
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| == Question About Formal Tone and AI Concerns == | |||
| You didn't respond, so I was bold and recreated it in good faith. The previous deletion thing was not viewable, so I couldn't see why it was deleted previously. Not trying to step on any toes. --] (]) 16:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Daniel, | |||
| == /Workshop page format == | |||
| I just wanted to ask, does using a formal tone in my responses mean I'm using AI? I’ve been trying to keep my responses clear and respectful, but I didn’t realize that could be seen as AI-generated. | |||
| Hey Daniel. You said that the new format was requested by the arbitrators. As can be seen ], there is much opposition to the format. Is there/What is the process whereby we can request a change? Thanks. '''] | ]''' 01:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :You'd be best to raise a discussion on ] to discuss it generally. However, the pages are available as a convenience by the arbitrators for the parties of a case, and they can control the general use on the workshop page, so the only process is to ask them to change the template back. Cheers, ] (]) 01:28, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Is it a problem to write in a more formal style here, or does that automatically raise concerns about using AI? I'm just trying to understand what's expected. | |||
| ::Okay thanks. I've started a thread asking them to take the concerns under advisement. '''] | ]''' 01:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::No worries. ] (]) 01:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for your input! ] (]) 20:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Well, since I'm already talking to you about this case, since ] injunction just passed, and it's bound to be invoked soon, would it be a good idea to make note on AN and ANI? Also, would you see the talk page discussion about that remedy? I think it should be sorted out soon.'''] | ]''' 02:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Two (out of two I checked) of your posts came up as 90% AI-written according to the AI detector I used (which is falliable, but that's such a coincidence). Further, the subheadings that you used were distinctive of AI-generated messages. I still believe you were using AI to generate those two messages. (By contrast, this message registers 0%.) ] (]) 22:22, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Also, . ] (]) 22:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::What's the current guidance on blocking AI trolling, which this clearly is? ] (]) 23:04, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I don't feel good about feeding back the "tells" either ("subheadings") ] (]) 23:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::There's no automatic prohibition in project-space, so it needs to be judged through the lens of general disruption. The use of subheadings is both a tell but also part of the disruptive nature of LLM-generated projectspace postings, so I don't think it's fair to say "you're being disruptive" but not explain ''how'' it's disruptive. ] (]) 00:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::In response to your fairness objection, I think it's wrong to knowingly assist in calibration of such models. We don't feed trolls, we shouldn't tutor AIs. ] (]) 00:49, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ==AFDs== | |||
| Hello, Daniel, | |||
| I know you needed to take a break from admin responsibilities and I probably feel like that every week! But it's great to see you back, helping out in AFDLand. You've been missed in our regular rotations of AFD closers. Glad to have you back! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 06:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks Liz! Yesterday and today have been reasonably quiet for me so thought I'd jump in and help out. Life gets busy again tomorrow for a few weeks but I'll do whatever I can to help! Cheers, ] (]) 06:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Question About Formal Tone and AI ConcernsHi Daniel, I just wanted to ask, does using a formal tone in my responses mean I'm using AI? I’ve been trying to keep my responses clear and respectful, but I didn’t realize that could be seen as AI-generated. Is it a problem to write in a more formal style here, or does that automatically raise concerns about using AI? I'm just trying to understand what's expected. Thanks for your input! JESUS (talk) 20:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, Daniel,
I know you needed to take a break from admin responsibilities and I probably feel like that every week! But it's great to see you back, helping out in AFDLand. You've been missed in our regular rotations of AFD closers. Glad to have you back! Liz 06:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Liz! Yesterday and today have been reasonably quiet for me so thought I'd jump in and help out. Life gets busy again tomorrow for a few weeks but I'll do whatever I can to help! Cheers, Daniel (talk) 06:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC)