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| Thank you, that is a most interesting video. You were very kind in letting me know about it. I was also called the attention recently to some interesting reading about that found in ''Psychosocial Factors in Pain: Critical Perspectives'' | |||
| by Robert J. Gatchel (page 44 and beyond) and ''The Physicists' View of Nature: The Quantum Revolution: Pt. 2'' by Amit Goswami. I will give a more detailed view when i have the time, it is an interesting subject. <font color="00A813">]</font><sup><font color="00551BB3">]</font></sup>☤ 11:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| You will note that WAS 4 and Nergaal started by commenting upon the generally agreed scientific opinion. Yourself and Anthon01 then continued this discusion. It was only ''then'' that I joined in. My own official comment on the request did not discuss the matter at all. Of course, you would be right in saying that this is no excuse, and as such I apologise to the ArbCom for this, as I hope all the other involved parties will. ] (]) 15:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| I have been terribly ill and almost did another hospital run. I live in FL and Pot isn't well received. I will read over what you sent though as it might be useful for me through my pain doctor though. Thanks for thinking of me, --]] 12:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| oh really? hadnt noticed that until just now. thanks for the heads. up ] (]) 22:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| Is this about biophotonics? ] (]) 03:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :No. —] (''']''') 03:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| As you suggested, I have rewatched "Photons: Corpuscles of Light", and I really cannot see anything that can be transfered from what he talks about and used to explain any method of action for homeopathy. It should be noted that within that lecture, water was only discussed in terms of an example of a reflective medium, and similar processes to what he talks about occurs in all materials (although less ordered in terms of angle of reflection, and with absorption of certain wavelengths to give colour). I shall watch the other lecture you note also, but please could you detail what it is you see in the lecture that is of use for this purpose? ] (]) 16:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I see why you linked to the youtube sample, a discussion of interference patterns. No wonder you found that exciting. It should be noted that transference of information requires the expenditure of energy - for information to be retained on both objects, the individual signal strengths of the information stored on each object must be reduced compared to the original. This can only be reduced to a certain level until it becomes so small that it cannot be determined as a separate component at all (see ] and the ]). Current understanding of quantum physics is such that at these levels, things stop being deterministic and become probabilistic, and this is unlikely to change any time soon, and the important thing to note is that at scales above those being considered at a quantum level, any underlying determinism is equivalent to the current understanding of probabilities in wave equations. In addition, fourier analysis makes it clear that the most important parts of a wave form are those components with the greatest amplitude. The probability of smallest components having a significant effect is so small as to be typically discarded. It should be noted that of course any such speculation is entirely based on a vague and undefined term of "energies", when indeed at an atomic level there is no such thing as a separate magical energy signature for a substance (vibrations are dependant on a given molecule's resonance frequencies, electron energy levels also dependant upon the protons in nuclei and other nearby electrons - these are the languages of molecular chemistry and physics, and no other long term means to store information remains). I could go on, but I shall finish with the greatest stumbling block of all - if homeopathic techniques do impart innformation onto the solvent in use, then the molecules or groups of molecules onto which information is imparted must have also naturally experienced similar events over their history to have acquired other trace information from their past environments. If homeopaths believe that remedies can be stored for periods of time, then these other sources of information must also remain. If there is any other means remaining that you would like to use to appropriate QED and other theories to explain homeopathy's method of action, please let me know. ] (]) 16:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. While I could compose a detailed response, based on my own understandings, I do not think it would be constructive to do so here. I personally find Feynman enjoyable (as long as he doesn't go too heavily into the maths), and hope you found it worthwhile. I continue to believe that QED has tremendous importance to homeopathy consistent with the observed sinusoidal curve of different potencies, but it would not be useful to engage in synthesis here. —] (''']''') 18:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| With all respect, Whig, I'd really suggest adding a response at ] - this was started in order to avoid the awkward section at the other RfC in my name where there wasn't a way for you to defend yourself. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:40, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I am afraid I am unable to assume good faith in this matter. Recommended reading: ]. Please proceed as you wish. —] (''']''') 02:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| This is your chance to defend yourself. Why not ?--] (]) 03:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I have edited my reply. —] (''']''') 05:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I would however like to make clear that I am not requesting the deletion of this RfC at this time as it might function as an RfC on the submitters. Though it is very interesting that you come to my talk page to discuss your concerns after filing an RfC instead of before. Usually it's the other way around. And you don't seem to want me to take any comments from this, just to go away or be banned. I have never been under ] and you should stop pretending that it's okay to say that or that it was okay to mark my block log incorrectly. —] (''']''') 08:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| Just wanted to say, hope you come on over and check it out! Blissfully far quieter than homeopathy; in fact at times we despair for having more than one or two active editors. best regards, ]<sup>(])</sup> 22:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| I agree with you, infobox was not properly sourced. I have also removed links and categories related to pseudoscience, as they do not have proper references either. ]] 04:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks --]] 07:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| Is this the way things go here? ] (]) 18:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Are you still around? ] (]) 21:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Intermittently. Is there something you thought I should add or comment on right away? —] (''']''') 22:40, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :: I have been in contact with FT2 and have submitted my explanations to him. I am awaiting his reply. ] (]) 00:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Suggesting I post on AN, even though I mentioned it at the AN/I? What do I do about Filll who I feel is exaggerating my involvement all over the place? ] (]) 19:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Can I defend myself against the stonewalling claim? ] (]) 19:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Make a polite request to ] and ask for diffs to justify your restriction, I think. That would be how I would proceed. —] (''']''') 19:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| My mistake. The second link is here. Ambiguous section titles. In any event its at the bottom of the page. ] (]) 19:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Why waste your time in a talk page dispute with Filll? —] (''']''') 19:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :: He keeps commenting everywhere I go, and his comments are inaccurate accusations. What do you suggest? You saying I am bothering him, but he is posting inaccurate accusations inflammatory messages in several different places. ] (]) 19:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I'd suggest ignoring him, as he isn't an admin and cannot block you. —] (''']''') 19:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Ok. ] (]) 19:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==New ShortCut== | |||
| On my editing break, I've created a shortcut that you might find useful. ]. Cheers. ] (]) 23:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == "The correct standard" == | |||
| : Thank you. Clearly, the correct standard to apply here is: | |||
| ::* ''Questionable science: "Theories which have a substantial following, such as psychoanalysis, but which some critics allege to be pseudoscience, may contain information to that effect, but generally should not be so characterized."'' | |||
| :::*Does homeopathy have a substantial following? Yes. | |||
| :::*Do some critics allege it to be pseudoscience? Yes. —] (''']''') 05:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| You're on the wrong side of the line of demarcation in the four sections from the ArbCom. See The correct listing would be the first, and barring that the second. Of course the third applies in a sense, but it is far too lenient, since the first two apply even better: | |||
| # Obvious pseudoscience | |||
| # Generally considered pseudoscience | |||
| -- <i><b><font color="004000">]</font></b></i> / <b><font color="990099" size="1">]</font></b> 06:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Opinion vs. policy? ] (]) 06:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Fyslee, I think we can exclude Obvious pseudoscience, and given the substantial criticism we can probably remove it from Alternative formulations. So the question is whether it is "Generally considered pseudoscience" or does it have a substantial following within the scientific community? ] is the ArbCom's example of something generally considered pseudoscience, and I don't know of a single scientist who holds astrology as anything other than mysticism. Homeopathy is controversial, it is alleged to be pseudoscience by some people, but it is also accepted and used as a regular part of many medical practices and there are serious scientists and doctors who believe it is valid and useful. Similar to ]. —] (''']''') 06:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| : It is a parsing of policy. You are both trying to move the goalposts by reclassifying "obvious" or "generally considered pseudoscience" to the wrong category so as to avoid telling the truth according to good sources. That is disruptive and a violation of the article probation. Stop it. Even Jim Butler has now admitted the category does apply to homeopathy, IOW he has changed his mind when presented with abundant evidence. Here is where it happens: & , because of , & , & , & , as well as this very clear to a user who is pushing the same arguments as yourselves right here. -- <i><b><font color="004000">]</font></b></i> / <b><font color="990099" size="1">]</font></b> 07:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::I've had conversations with Jim Butler in his talk, we don't agree. If you are alleging misconduct on my part please bring it to the attention of an admin. —] (''']''') 07:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I have. The article probation should have taught you something, and that is when to learn you are beaten and to stop. Continuing this line of argumentation is precisely the type of disruption that the article probation is intended to stop. -- <i><b><font color="004000">]</font></b></i> / <b><font color="990099" size="1">]</font></b> 07:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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