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| Practitioner of alternative medicine who fails ] and ]. A few unreliable Websites are cited, but there is no coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources. A self-published (?) book and set of DVD's for sale does not establish notability either. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 22:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | Practitioner of alternative medicine who fails ] and ]. A few unreliable Websites are cited, but there is no coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources. Tagged since April 2007 for notability without addition of reliable sources. A self-published (?) book and set of DVD's for sale does not establish notability either. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 22:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Keep''' - Notable individual; sources presented and cited. Editors should not be in the business of attempting to remove articles about individuals with whose ideas or world views they disagree, as even physicians with questionable medical ideas, if notable, are worthy of coverage in our encyclopedia. Editor proposing deletion is known for this highly flawed, POV-motivated mode of editing, which we should eschew in favor of building the best, most complete encylopedia possible (even including articles on notable individuals with whom we, as editors, disagree). ] (]) 23:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| **How effective do you expect an argument composed entirely of ] and ] to be, I wonder? As to sources: what sources? ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 23:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Weak delete''' Two substantive hits (as a co-author of some papers) and one substantive hit; the other two simply list his address. These just are not enough to establish notability for me. (] (]) 01:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)) | |||
| :*There are somewhat more Google Scholar & Medline hits from "V Marcial-Vega", which appears to be used on some of his academic papers. ] <small>(])</small> 10:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *'''delete''' One of the GS hits is a patent for a mold eradication spray; the other is coauthorship on a radiosurgery paper from 1992. Not enough for notability--not even remotely. ''']''' (]) 02:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| * '''Delete''' per nom. ]<i>]</i> 09:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete'''. Google found little independent of the subject, save an FDA warning letter about his use of colloidal silver . His single self-published book has an Amazon.com ranking of 1,234,842 . A Medline search on "V Marcial-Vega" comes up with 10 research papers, of which the latest is 1994; none relate to his current field. A Google Scholar for "V Marcial-Vega" finds a paper on nasopharyngeal carcinoma with 105 citations, and one other above 30. I'm not sure that this single coauthored paper with reasonably high citations is sufficient to meet WP:PROF, and in any case this research isn't mentioned in the current article; he certainly isn't notable as an author. ] <small>(])</small> 10:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''' per ]. Plus, according to the article, what has this man actually done, besided "promote" certain things. Getting various post-graduate degrees generally involves publishing dissertations etc. to satisfy one's major professor and it is not that hard to get one's name on a paper somewhere. Is he beyond this state of affairs and continuing to contribute substantially to his area of expertise or has he moved on to promoting? Until more information is provided, his article is empty of substantive claims. ] 14:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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The result was delete.--Kubigula (talk) 04:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Victor A. Marcial-Vega
- Victor A. Marcial-Vega (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
Practitioner of alternative medicine who fails WP:BIO and WP:PROF. A few unreliable Websites are cited, but there is no coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources. Tagged since April 2007 for notability without addition of reliable sources. A self-published (?) book and set of DVD's for sale does not establish notability either. MastCell 22:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - Notable individual; sources presented and cited. Editors should not be in the business of attempting to remove articles about individuals with whose ideas or world views they disagree, as even physicians with questionable medical ideas, if notable, are worthy of coverage in our encyclopedia. Editor proposing deletion is known for this highly flawed, POV-motivated mode of editing, which we should eschew in favor of building the best, most complete encylopedia possible (even including articles on notable individuals with whom we, as editors, disagree). Badagnani (talk) 23:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- How effective do you expect an argument composed entirely of personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith to be, I wonder? As to sources: what sources? MastCell 23:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Weak delete Two substantive Google Scholar hits (as a co-author of some papers) and one substantive Google Books hit; the other two simply list his address. These just are not enough to establish notability for me. (Mind meal (talk) 01:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC))
- There are somewhat more Google Scholar & Medline hits from "V Marcial-Vega", which appears to be used on some of his academic papers. Espresso Addict (talk) 10:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- delete One of the GS hits is a patent for a mold eradication spray; the other is coauthorship on a radiosurgery paper from 1992. Not enough for notability--not even remotely. DGG (talk) 02:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. —Espresso Addict (talk) 09:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. RogueNinjatalk 09:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Google found little independent of the subject, save an FDA warning letter about his use of colloidal silver . His single self-published book has an Amazon.com ranking of 1,234,842 . A Medline search on "V Marcial-Vega" comes up with 10 research papers, of which the latest is 1994; none relate to his current field. A Google Scholar for "V Marcial-Vega" finds a paper on nasopharyngeal carcinoma with 105 citations, and one other above 30. I'm not sure that this single coauthored paper with reasonably high citations is sufficient to meet WP:PROF, and in any case this research isn't mentioned in the current article; he certainly isn't notable as an author. Espresso Addict (talk) 10:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per Espresso Addict. Plus, according to the article, what has this man actually done, besided "promote" certain things. Getting various post-graduate degrees generally involves publishing dissertations etc. to satisfy one's major professor and it is not that hard to get one's name on a paper somewhere. Is he beyond this state of affairs and continuing to contribute substantially to his area of expertise or has he moved on to promoting? Until more information is provided, his article is empty of substantive claims. Mattisse 14:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.