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| == Rock Lobster in '']'' == | |||
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| Rock Lobster is a card in the '']'' expansion ''Unglued'', possibly inspired by this song. | |||
| == "Rock Lobster" Sightings == | |||
| The way I see it is that the article is a stub, and any related information that could be added to a stub is helpful. Perhaps after the article has grown a lot would "less-related" information be omitted. | |||
| == An IP inquiring about a documented performance? == | |||
| However, referencing a "Rock Lobster" appearance in the Family Guy episode (and other places) doesn't imply that the song is trivial or depthless. Perhaps one may think the Family Guy show itself is somewhat without depth, but it doesn't change the fact that the song was referenced on a popular medium that most people would recognize. | |||
| This is an edit I removed from the article: | |||
| To ]: You have defended this article twice now from my and ]'s attempt to just add some additional information to an otherwise stub article. I don't think either of us were intending to change the meaning of the song. In fact, since you hold the song so highly, I'm looking forward to reading about the underlying meanings of the song. If you're going to accuse these references as ignorance, then I hope that you're researching your own eventual contribution to this article that would inform everyone of the scope of the song. | |||
| :''Can't find citation, but band appeared at Company Party performance in one of the better daytime Soap Operas US, probably immediately post-chart. I've seen and might have short clip of this - 3-camera set but little normal novela shifting - on the band most time, as principal character's expressions in the audience were either mawkish, surprised or simply too stoned.'' | |||
| Can someone help this IP please? ] (]) 01:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == 1986 12" single == | |||
| Both Pennyforth and I tried to edit this article in the most professional-sounding manner. We didn't merely say, "rock lobster also appeared in family guy when peter sang it." We gave our best Wiki-editing effort, and I would at least rather you add an annotation that perhaps Peter's singing of the song on the show does not reflect the true meaning of the song, rather than omitting the reference entirely. | |||
| The 12" release has Rock Lobster and Planet Claire on side 1, Future Generation and Give me back my Man on side 2. https://www.amazon.co.uk/B-52S-rock-lobster-BFT-single/dp/B00QH2YW68 ] (]) 19:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
| --] 14:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == == | |||
| Just add it. He probably won't pay any attention to this otherwise. --] 06:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I have not contributed to this article at all, but I noticed the insertion of "vague" after the description of the first version being "faster". I just don't understand this as this is a clearly true statement. It's at a bit faster tempo, for sure. What is vague about this? I'm just confused, thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:01, 2 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| I have returned the references. If there are other instances in which this song has been used, feel free to add them. | |||
| --] 00:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Magic the Gathering Un-Set reference == | |||
| :Probably worth mentioning, on this talk page at least, that the makers of the show actually had two other songs in mind for that scene in Family Guy, but couldn't get the rights to them, so they had to "settle" for their third choice, which is Rock Lobster. It was a very funny scene for it, in any case ] 02:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Hello, I have put forth an edit to include the reference to this page featuring the card Rock Lobster from the Magic the Gathering set Unglued. https://scryfall.com/card/ugl/79/rock-lobster https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?printed=true&multiverseid=5648 | |||
| ::I added Knocked Up as an instance of the song in pop culture ] (]) 23:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| First time it was removed to being un-notable, but it being etched into an early beta of a motherboard from Commodore computers that most users didn't get a copy of nor checked, is notable. The user who removed that edit has others calling out how they remove things no one else would, so I put it back in, and it was removed to not being a direct reference. | |||
| == Amiga 500 motherboard == | |||
| I don't wish to create an edit war, but I don't understand how it's not a reference to the song, or notable? If I search "Rock Lobster" I only get direct references to this song, nothing about another type of animal or a novel. If you check the second link for the Gatherer listing, others are making the same connection. | |||
| I'm pretty sure the ] motherboard only says "Rock Lobster", not "The B-52's Rock Lobster". And because it's printed directly onto the circuit board, not in a label of some sorts, because of technical restrictions it's all in upper case. ] | ] 18:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I understand that the three cards are a ] joke, but Paper Tiger is also mocking another phrase, so I don't see that would forbid Rock Lobster from being a reference. If it's a lack of direct citation, I can ask Mark Rosewater's Q&A and get an answer from him most likely. | |||
| It says "B52/ROCK LOBSTER". Reference can be found here (below the square IC): or here (on the far right): . | |||
| Again, I wish to state that I'm still fairly new to editing Misplaced Pages, so maybe I'm missing a general guideline somewhere. But I would at least like to put forward the idea that Rock Lobster is a reference to Rock Lobster. Misplaced Pages's high requirements for edits is what makes it good, not a fault. ] (]) 21:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Rick Anderson quote == | |||
| :There are a host of Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines that are relevant here, and I'm not going to spend the time to point them all out. (It's late, I'm sleepy.) Basically, it doesn't matter if it's true that the game has a reference to this song. If the reference isn't notable enough to be mentioned in independent, third-party reliable sources, it isn't notable enough for the article. I'm of the opinion that much or most of WP's "In popular culture" items don't belong in WP, and this article's version could arguably use further trimming. The fact that other trivia is in the article is not a reason to add more. ] (]) 07:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
| The quote: "despite the song's self-consciously weird texture and silly lyrics about earlobes falling off and communal towel coordination, there's a thread of darkness weaving through it. Make no mistake: this is not a song with hidden meaning lurking below the surface. But its surface is a little more complicated than it seems to be at first." by Rick Anderson does not have any citation. If one is not found within a week, I am deleting it. | |||
| ] 21:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| It has been more then one week, and still, there remains no citation for the quote. Therefore, as previously stated, I am deleting this quote from the article. ] 19:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Your edits to "Rock Lobster", ](])== | |||
| In reguards to your edits of the addition of the family guy song, it is stated quite clearly that orignal research is not allowed for wikipedia articles, meaning, that in order for there to be any addition of such, there must be a citation from the creators of Family Guy that such material was actually present in the episode. | |||
| I know for a fact that such material was, as do thousands of other viewers, however, that is called orignal research, and if you read the wikipedia guidelines, you would know that such is not allowed. | |||
| So, before you go adding it again, find a citation of the creators speaking of such, and cite it, or it will be removed.] (]) 01:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Deleting this won't make the problem go away. If you don't stop the vandelism, we're going to lock you out of making edits by reporting you. ] (]) 07:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| This isn't about jealousy(in fact, that is an incorrect use of the word), nor does it have anything to do with POV. This has to do with how Misplaced Pages is run. It is not run on Orignal Research, but actually sources. We shall both continue to edit ] as what you are adding is called Orignal Research, which is not allowed. You must find a verifable source, Youtube does not count as a verifable source, the only thing that could is a direct quote from an article of the creators. ] (]) 19:50, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I didn't read it carefully enough the first time. Again, this is not about point of view, second of all, trivia sections have no relevantence in any article. Third, POV of a user is not allowed in Misplaced Pages articles. This is ]. Unless you find a verifible source, as in a quote by the creators, or information reguarding the credits of that particular episode, or even a court document stating the allowance of the song to be used in the episode, any other source is not verifible, and the information will therefore be removed. If you do not stop with your blantant ], we will be forced to contact an admin and remove your ability to edit this article. This is your first warning. ] (]) 23:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| If the information reguarding said quote from the Family Guy TV show has relevance, please state it. Family Guy makes many, many, many popular culture references, just because this song was heard in it does not make it relevant to be listed. ] (]) 00:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| <b>If you can find a verifible citation for the reference, we shall not delete it. As stated before, a verifible citation would be a quote from the creators themselves. If you want it in the article so badly, why don't you email the creators and ask them to list it on their website.</b> ] (]) 00:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| <b>Take note that if you delete anything on this discussion page, it is vandalism, and you will be reported and removed.</b> ] (]) 23:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I have taken the liberty of adding a cite for him (it is sufficient to cite the episode itself) and also deleting the link to the copyrighted video (which is likely to end up deleted from youtube anyway). Hopefully this clears up any issues. ---- ''']''' <sup>] | ]</sup> 01:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::] is the page. ] (]) 01:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Although the citation is not an issue anymore, the relevance of the information is. As stated by DH, trivia has no place here. In fact, trivia sections are discouraged under wikipedia guidelines. ] (]) 08:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| We already stated our arguements on the matter, now state yours. ] (]) 06:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Family Guy reference == | |||
| Looking at the talk page, I still don't understand why ] is so dead-set opposed to having any reference of this song in pop culture placed on the page. Proper references of the song's mention show how widely recognized the song actually is. ] (]) 18:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Rock Lobster in Magic: The Gathering
Rock Lobster is a card in the Magic: The Gathering expansion Unglued, possibly inspired by this song.
An IP inquiring about a documented performance?
This is an edit I removed from the article:
- Can't find citation, but band appeared at Company Party performance in one of the better daytime Soap Operas US, probably immediately post-chart. I've seen and might have short clip of this - 3-camera set but little normal novela shifting - on the band most time, as principal character's expressions in the audience were either mawkish, surprised or simply too stoned.
Can someone help this IP please? Hearfourmewesique (talk) 01:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
1986 12" single
The 12" release has Rock Lobster and Planet Claire on side 1, Future Generation and Give me back my Man on side 2. https://www.amazon.co.uk/B-52S-rock-lobster-BFT-single/dp/B00QH2YW68 John a s (talk) 19:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
I have not contributed to this article at all, but I noticed the insertion of "vague" after the description of the first version being "faster". I just don't understand this as this is a clearly true statement. It's at a bit faster tempo, for sure. What is vague about this? I'm just confused, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:51CC:D5D8:151B:E6E2:95FB:8D75 (talk) 18:01, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Magic the Gathering Un-Set reference
Hello, I have put forth an edit to include the reference to this page featuring the card Rock Lobster from the Magic the Gathering set Unglued. https://scryfall.com/card/ugl/79/rock-lobster https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?printed=true&multiverseid=5648
First time it was removed to being un-notable, but it being etched into an early beta of a motherboard from Commodore computers that most users didn't get a copy of nor checked, is notable. The user who removed that edit has others calling out how they remove things no one else would, so I put it back in, and it was removed to not being a direct reference.
I don't wish to create an edit war, but I don't understand how it's not a reference to the song, or notable? If I search "Rock Lobster" I only get direct references to this song, nothing about another type of animal or a novel. If you check the second link for the Gatherer listing, others are making the same connection.
I understand that the three cards are a Rock Paper Scissors joke, but Paper Tiger is also mocking another phrase, so I don't see that would forbid Rock Lobster from being a reference. If it's a lack of direct citation, I can ask Mark Rosewater's Q&A and get an answer from him most likely.
Again, I wish to state that I'm still fairly new to editing Misplaced Pages, so maybe I'm missing a general guideline somewhere. But I would at least like to put forward the idea that Rock Lobster is a reference to Rock Lobster. Misplaced Pages's high requirements for edits is what makes it good, not a fault. Bull3tM0nk3y (talk) 21:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- There are a host of Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines that are relevant here, and I'm not going to spend the time to point them all out. (It's late, I'm sleepy.) Basically, it doesn't matter if it's true that the game has a reference to this song. If the reference isn't notable enough to be mentioned in independent, third-party reliable sources, it isn't notable enough for the article. I'm of the opinion that much or most of WP's "In popular culture" items don't belong in WP, and this article's version could arguably use further trimming. The fact that other trivia is in the article is not a reason to add more. CAVincent (talk) 07:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)