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	::Then provide a source for it. You can't just claim "they are lazy" based on your personal assertion. I've also removed the image, again. The text barely discusses rough collie appearance at all, much less giving detailed discussion of the head shape, so no, it doesn't illustrate a point in the text. ] (]) 15:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)		::Then provide a source for it. You can't just claim "they are lazy" based on your personal assertion. I've also removed the image, again. The text barely discusses rough collie appearance at all, much less giving detailed discussion of the head shape, so no, it doesn't illustrate a point in the text. ] (]) 15:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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⚫	::I have ~~re-capitalized~~ ~~the~~ ~~quotations, but the article is not referring to any specific god is~~ ~~it?~~ ] (]) 13:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::A few places do, others don't; quite complex. · ] <sup>]</sup> 13:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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	:I can believe you think you own this page but you do not. The pictures already there are quite poor so I have added a new one. Please desist from your vandalism, which you regard as ''fixing''! ] (]) 16:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
	::Stop calling it vandalism. It was explained to you MULTIPLE times why the picture is not warranted nor helpful. It does not comply with the ] guidelines for use, as nothing in the article discusses the shape of the head, and you are only adding it because you uploaded it. That is ] and you showing you can not maintain a neutral point of view. I also already explained to you that if you want to change something that is in the article to something completely opposite to it, you need to provide ] ] to back up your claim. If you continue this inappropriate behavior, you will be blocked. ] (]) 16:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::I am trying to improve this pathetic article and make it more scholarly. All you are doing is saying ''I am the only person who can contribute to this page'', which is not what WP is all about. Please desist from undoing every edit I make! You are not playing a good WP community role. Also, the ''noble head'' is in the text! ] (]) 16:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
	::::Having the words "noble head" is NOT a discussion of it. You were told not to do it, but you keep trying. I am undoing most of your edits because you have no clue what you are doing. You don't tag text as needing a reference by putting "Needs citation" as its reference. If you'd bothered to read the edit summary, I even showed you how to proper tag something as needing a reference, but you just kept putting in bad code, messing up the article. You keep insisting on shoving a picture of your dog's head into the article without wanting to take the time to REALLY improve the article by expanding the discussion of its appearance and head, and the article a as a whole, so it could actually support more images. You aren't doing anything to improve the article or make it more scholarly by trying to add in your personal images, but not add in real sourced content. I don't say I'm the only one who can contribute, I just monitor the page and keep people from making it worse. ] (]) 16:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

			:So what is unjustified and wrong about any of these other contributions? If you read the citations you would see that the same ''facts'' appear elsewhere on WP!

			:If you want to see LGS' pedigree I can provide it! ] (]) 17:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
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			Hi again, Mike. I'm going to try and sort out the dispute on the ] page; if you could go to the talk page of the article and provide a brief summary of what you feel should be in the article and why, I'd appreciate it.

			I'd also highly recommend that you stop making edits accusing Collectonian of vandalism and ownership of articles, such as those that have generated the above warnings. I know you're frustrated, but taking it out in those manners is counterproductive. Take a deep breath and try to remain ] when dealing with this kind of thing. I'll be asking Collectonian to take a step back as well. Thanks. ] <small>]</small> 16:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

			This is not a reliable source for historical details: http://www.crystalinks.com/ ] (]) 16:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

			::Hi,
			::Which user do you mean? If it’s “Collectatonian” (excuse the spelling) I’d most certainly support on a block.] (]) 11:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

		⚫	:: I have responded there. ] (]) 12:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

			FYI I can't edit properly at the moment, so won't be able to answer your query until later in the day. ] <small>]</small> 18:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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			Personally, I would suggest you revert yourself as a show of good faith, and start discussion on the talk page before you edit war. ] 00:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

			:Hi, Mike. Sorry I couldn't comment earlier, but my computer was doing strange things. Got it sorted now. As to your comments about the issues you're having editing, I agree with AniMate here: your best bet is, when someone reverts you on any page, go to the talk page and discuss what you want to enter in a calm, clear manner. Misplaced Pages's about consensus, and finding that consensus through discussion is the right way to go. Do give that some thought, and discuss before making lots of changes. Thanks! ] <small>]</small> 01:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

			::Thanks for the good advice and I have taken it. It does not answer the actions of some editors who immediately revert edits and mark them as ] though. This is how edit wars start I guess? To see one other editor's attempts at improvement marked as vandalism makes my blood boil!!! ] (]) 10:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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			:But all I am trying to do is to bring some NPOV here. I also described religious belief as psychotic. Which is the problem? ] (]) 16:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
			::Have a look at ]. ] (]) 19:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
			:::OK, but then religion is one big soap box, so why promote it on WP? Every article about it serves to promote its POV. ] (]) 21:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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			:Do you mean the RfC template? The instructions said to edit the template.

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			:You mean I don't need to edit this? ] (]) 21:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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			:You aren't blocked. ] (]) 11:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you for your message. I have reinserted the image as it illustrates a point in the text.

I am surprised that you feel that Rough Collies are good working dogs, because they have a reputation for being lazy, and in fact as far as I am aware are never used as working dogs in the UK! They were superceded long ago by Border Collies for sheep herding. Maybe things are different in the USA, in which case perhaps this distinction could be made. Mike0001 (talk) 12:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Then provide a source for it. You can't just claim "they are lazy" based on your personal assertion. I've also removed the image, again. The text barely discusses rough collie appearance at all, much less giving detailed discussion of the head shape, so no, it doesn't illustrate a point in the text. Collectonian (talk) 15:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of previously published material to our articles as you apparently did to Creationism. Please cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Hrafn_Stalk 09:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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So what is unjustified and wrong about any of these other contributions? If you read the citations you would see that the same facts appear elsewhere on WP!

If you want to see LGS' pedigree I can provide it! Mike0001 (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hi there. I know you're engaged in a dispute with Collectonian, but editing other users' personal pages as you did with regards to the above edit is not a constructive method of discussion. Please try to remain civil. If you'd like a suggestion on moving forward in dealing with the dispute, I'd highly recommend seeking out a third opinion or starting an article request for comment to gauge further consensus on the points of contention. Thanks. Tony Fox (arf!) 22:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, Mike. I'm going to try and sort out the dispute on the Rough Collie page; if you could go to the talk page of the article and provide a brief summary of what you feel should be in the article and why, I'd appreciate it.

I'd also highly recommend that you stop making edits accusing Collectonian of vandalism and ownership of articles, such as those that have generated the above warnings. I know you're frustrated, but taking it out in those manners is counterproductive. Take a deep breath and try to remain civil when dealing with this kind of thing. I'll be asking Collectonian to take a step back as well. Thanks. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

This is not a reliable source for historical details: http://www.crystalinks.com/ Hardyplants (talk) 16:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

Which user do you mean? If it’s “Collectatonian” (excuse the spelling) I’d most certainly support on a block.Edito*Magica (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I have responded there. Mike0001 (talk) 12:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

FYI I can't edit properly at the moment, so won't be able to answer your query until later in the day. Tony Fox (arf!) 18:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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Personally, I would suggest you revert yourself as a show of good faith, and start discussion on the talk page before you edit war. AniMate 00:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Mike. Sorry I couldn't comment earlier, but my computer was doing strange things. Got it sorted now. As to your comments about the issues you're having editing, I agree with AniMate here: your best bet is, when someone reverts you on any page, go to the talk page and discuss what you want to enter in a calm, clear manner. Misplaced Pages's about consensus, and finding that consensus through discussion is the right way to go. Do give that some thought, and discuss before making lots of changes. Thanks! Tony Fox (arf!) 01:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the good advice and I have taken it. It does not answer the actions of some editors who immediately revert edits and mark them as vandalism though. This is how edit wars start I guess? To see one other editor's attempts at improvement marked as vandalism makes my blood boil!!! Mike0001 (talk) 10:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Final warning

If you continue to edit in a manner that ignores consensus and is disruptive, you are going to be blocked. Addhoc (talk) 16:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

But all I am trying to do is to bring some NPOV here. I also described religious belief as psychotic. Which is the problem? Mike0001 (talk) 16:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:SOAP. Addhoc (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, but then religion is one big soap box, so why promote it on WP? Every article about it serves to promote its POV. Mike0001 (talk) 21:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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Do you mean the RfC template? The instructions said to edit the template.

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You mean I don't need to edit this? Mike0001 (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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