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== Death? == | |||
There's currently a suspicion that Daddy Yankee has died today due to a car accident. Can someone please verify this information? Best, ]] ] 00:05, 18 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Rapper? == | |||
I have reversed the user edition Bluefist as incorrect. Daddy Yankee is a reggaeton singer. Not a rapper. Someone please include references from reliable sources that show you are a rapper.--] (]) 21:05, 7 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:'''See new section down below regarding this Thanks'''] ] 18:25, 3 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Shooting accident == | |||
I seriously doubt the credibility of the story. AK-47 and "the bullet was never removed from his hip". Come ON! And it's sourced from MTV website which is as credible as a teen's facetube account. ] (]) 03:53, 2 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Years active == | |||
Is there any evidence proving that Daddy Yankee started his career in 1990 in the album Playero 34 with the song "So' Persígueme, No Te Detengas"? I don't even think it's a real song, as I can't find one source of its existence. If not, it should say 1992 and Playero 37 instead. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:15, 24 April 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== ((Double parentheses)) == | |||
What are all the pairs of double parentheses in the discography about? I thought they were an error for double brackets, which would link to a article, but the one that I changed produced a redlink, meaning there was no article by that name, so I changed it back. Are they actually part of the titles? Is somebody using them under the impression that they are a kind of quotation mark? I'm not going to remove or change them because I'm not familiar with this singer or the conventions of Latino Reggaeton, but somebody knowledgeable ought to have a look at this. --] (]) 05:18, 25 July 2016 (UTC) ] (]) 05:18, 25 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Rapper or no??? == | |||
{{archive top|reason=Per the the broad consensus of the community based on a plethora of ] depicting him as a rapper and his own interview there's plenty of reason and rationale about why the article '''shall mention'''-- ''He is a rapper''.<span style="font-size:17px">]<sup>]</sup></span> 12:50, 5 March 2017 (UTC)}} | |||
I have seen several editors attempt to remove or add "rapper" to his BLP. However, the sources are contradictory. | |||
*I am not going to accept this source http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/daddy-yankee.html because it appears to just be facts aggregated from Misplaced Pages, and it neither confirms nor denies him being a rapper. It calls him a "World Music Singer" and a "Popular Latin recording artist". | |||
*Google displayed this hit: http://www.axs.com/the-top-10-best-daddy-yankee-songs-83194. It says ''"For anybody that says that reggaeton is not really rapping, let us point you to “Gata Gangster.” This single is basically Puerto Rican rap, and that’s a good thing as the track is easily listenable and likeable, unlike most of the gangster rap that’s out today."'' That is what it says for number 9. check out the desc. for 7 and 4. ''Daddy Yankee may be the closest thing to a Spanish gangster rapper since, well, anybody.…though most of his tunes were geared towards “Latin gangster rap,”…'' | |||
*Billboard in 2012 called him both "Daddy Yankee, Puerto Rican Rapper" and "Reggaeton star Daddy Yankee " and "The Grammy-winning rapper" and "said the rapper". <ref>http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/branding/1099489/daddy-yankee-puerto-rican-rapper-to-release-signature-headphones</ref> | |||
So it is obvious to me at least that these music sites consider him to be a rapper, either because of his work, or because they consider Reggae/reggaeton to be rap. I am calling this RfC (my second) to see what yall think, and to save me having to prove this over and over again as editors attempt to change one way or the other. Nominator has very little bias towards or against the subject. ] ] 18:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
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*He is not a rapper is a singer but seeing that the edit made by the user Flippyinvader being this does not hit me at all I had to remove that and take references. ] (]) 20:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
*famousbirthdays.com is not reliable, so should be ignored. --] (]) 01:14, 5 February 2017 (UTC)<p>From what this article says about him, as well as what is in ], it seems like "rapper" applies. For editors that think otherwise, please clearly explain what type of sources you feel would be needed to convince you of the same. --] (]) 01:23, 5 February 2017 (UTC)</p> | |||
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**New York Times - | |||
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**Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly - | |||
**Chicago Tribune - ]] 07:10, 5 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
*'''Include''' - "Rapper" should be included in the BLP as supported in the numerous reliable sources listed above. ] (]) 03:35, 9 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
*'''Oppose''': He's a singer-songwriter who integrated some rap elements into some of his stuff here and there. Most of those sources are the sort that confuse rapping and hip-hop (''Billboard'', too – they divide all of music into a tiny handful of categories, so it's habitual for them to overgeneralize). Hardly any modern pop singers don't occasionally introduce rap elements into their music. Hell, that goes back to at least ]'s song "]" (1980); doesn't make ] a rapper. Having "done a little rap" doesn't make you a rapper. If I draw two pictures of my cats, that doesn't make me "an illustrator". ''Rapper'' is an occupation and/or a stance as an artist/entertainer, including an alignment with a particular subculture. When a singer-songwriter just does a rap track, they're a singer-songwriter who did a rap track, not a rapper. "Some RS said it" doesn't mean we automatically include something, especially if it's misleading/confusing for readers. Show me Daddy Yankee {{em|self-identifying}} as a rapper, then I have no objection. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 15:15, 11 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
*:Without sources, that's all original research on your part. If major music sources don't make the distinction that you're arguing, why should we? --] (]) 18:26, 17 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
*: and ]] 19:51, 19 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
*'''Comment by Nom''' Consensus appears to be he is a rapper, due to quotes and sources. I'll wait another week to close this in case any more editors step forward either for or against. ] ] 03:15, 24 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
* '''Include''' per the many sources listed by {{u|Isaidnoway}}. Famous Birthdays may not be an RS, but major publications like ''The New York Times'' and ''Chicago Tribune'' sure are. Add how Daddy Yankee himself said that he's a rapper in an interview with <i>Billboard</i> and it's safe to say that we have more than enough to reliably go on when we say that Daddy Yankee is a rapper. ] (]) 20:44, 27 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
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<li>From ]: {{Cite news|url=http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/latin-notas/6207108/daddy-yankee-on-gasolina-barrio-fino-reggaeton-10-years-later-i-knew-it-was-a-home|title=Daddy Yankee Remembers 'Gasolina' 10 Years Later: 'I Knew It Was a Home Run'|work=]|access-date=May 11, 2017}}</li> | |||
<li>From ]: {{cite web |url= http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/5893980/billboard-latin-music-awards-complete-list-of-2014-finalists|title=Billboard Latin Music Awards: Complete List of 2014 Finalists|publisher=Billboard|date=February 5, 2014|accessdate=June 27, 2017|location=New York}}</li> | |||
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. ]] 04:01, 5 August 2017 (UTC) | |||
==Good Article nomination== | |||
I have worked with this article for some time and will give it a go at GAN, I will try to attend any concerns or suggestions presented here, cheers. - ] 22:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
=== Popularity of Despacito === | |||
The majority of the article seems good...but i think the discography needs to be changed and put into a seperate articles like many other musicians articles.] 16:25, 5 Feb 2008 | |||
] (]) 16:18, 23 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Please check one of my edits == | |||
== Birth year error == | |||
The original version of this article had the following sentence - | |||
Daddy Yankee was born in 1977, not in 1976. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:01, 14 February 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
"He was subsequently instructed by other artists in the genre including DJ Playero, DJ Nelso and DJ Goldy in order to develop an original style." | |||
References to his birthday both day he was 45 on 3 Feb 2021. Which makes his birth year 1976. Is there any reference that states 1977 anywhere? ] (]) 15:03, 22 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
The article then goes on to say that this led the artist to become one of the first to perform reggaeton. | |||
I'm not 100% sure what the quoted sentence means since I am not familiar with this performer or the genre. In my last edit I changed it to state that he "emulated" the other artists, "trying" develop an original style. Is this correct? I don't want to inadvertently change the sense of the original. ] (]) 11:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Here's one - https://www.allmusic.com/artist/daddy-yankee-mn0000559405/biography?1658652717608. Although I'm not sure how reliable AllMusic is (])). ] (]) 09:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
:I don't think the significance changes much, he was instructed by then so technically the new sentence is correct. - ] 14:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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== Dates == | ||
The mixtape he “debuted” on is listed as both 1991 and 1994, so something’s wrong. Doubtful he released (let alone coined the genre “reggaeton”) at 14 years old, but I’ll leave that to a more informed person to determine. ] (]) 05:12, 3 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
What source indicates his name as being Ramón instead of just Raymond? I had always thought it was just Raymond. Just asking before editing. ~] <sup><b>«]»</b></sup> 19:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Retairement to dedicate to the Christian faith == | |||
==GA on hold== | |||
*"He promoted the album by an international tour" - by --> with | |||
*For the website in the infobox, just use the URL, rather than "official website" | |||
*The personal life section should go after the musical career | |||
*"Ayala married Mireddys González when he was seventeen years old and the couple have three children.", need a comma here to indicate they NOW have 3 children | |||
*Ref 2 isn't in English, right? Say that | |||
*"He went on to emulate other artists in the genre, including DJ Playero, DJ Nelson, and DJ Goldy, trying to develop an original style." - he tried to develop his own style by copying others...? Maybe I'm missing something | |||
*"Ayala first recorded with DJ Playero, as a featured artist" - comma not needed | |||
*"a direct sequel to the previous production that was influenced by the same genres." - reword to "a direct sequel to the previous production, and influenced by similar genres." | |||
*"The album has sold over 500,000 copies in the United States alone and has sold well throughout Latin America and worldwide" - ref needed | |||
*"reaching the gold record category in Japan." --> "certified gold in Japan." | |||
*"Due to the album's success, Ayala received promotional contracts with radio stations and soda companies, including Pepsi." - again, needs ref | |||
*Ref 10, publisher/author info needed | |||
*2nd para of 2006—Present section has a stack of "also"s that sound bad | |||
*"According to Billboard magazine," - italics for magazine titles | |||
*The discog could be split to a separate article | |||
The article doesn't cite any source about . ] (]) 22:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Death?
There's currently a suspicion that Daddy Yankee has died today due to a car accident. Can someone please verify this information? Best, Jonayo! 00:05, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Rapper?
I have reversed the user edition Bluefist as incorrect. Daddy Yankee is a reggaeton singer. Not a rapper. Someone please include references from reliable sources that show you are a rapper.--Thknny (talk) 21:05, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- See new section down below regarding this ThanksL3X1 My Complaint Desk 18:25, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Shooting accident
I seriously doubt the credibility of the story. AK-47 and "the bullet was never removed from his hip". Come ON! And it's sourced from MTV website which is as credible as a teen's facetube account. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Years active
Is there any evidence proving that Daddy Yankee started his career in 1990 in the album Playero 34 with the song "So' Persígueme, No Te Detengas"? I don't even think it's a real song, as I can't find one source of its existence. If not, it should say 1992 and Playero 37 instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.31.195.245 (talk) 22:15, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
((Double parentheses))
What are all the pairs of double parentheses in the discography about? I thought they were an error for double brackets, which would link to a article, but the one that I changed produced a redlink, meaning there was no article by that name, so I changed it back. Are they actually part of the titles? Is somebody using them under the impression that they are a kind of quotation mark? I'm not going to remove or change them because I'm not familiar with this singer or the conventions of Latino Reggaeton, but somebody knowledgeable ought to have a look at this. --Thnidu (talk) 05:18, 25 July 2016 (UTC) Thnidu (talk) 05:18, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Rapper or no???
Per the the broad consensus of the community based on a plethora of WP:RS depicting him as a rapper and his own interview there's plenty of reason and rationale about why the article shall mention-- He is a rapper.Winged Blades 12:50, 5 March 2017 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I have seen several editors attempt to remove or add "rapper" to his BLP. However, the sources are contradictory.
- I am not going to accept this source http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/daddy-yankee.html because it appears to just be facts aggregated from Misplaced Pages, and it neither confirms nor denies him being a rapper. It calls him a "World Music Singer" and a "Popular Latin recording artist".
- Google displayed this hit: http://www.axs.com/the-top-10-best-daddy-yankee-songs-83194. It says "For anybody that says that reggaeton is not really rapping, let us point you to “Gata Gangster.” This single is basically Puerto Rican rap, and that’s a good thing as the track is easily listenable and likeable, unlike most of the gangster rap that’s out today." That is what it says for number 9. check out the desc. for 7 and 4. Daddy Yankee may be the closest thing to a Spanish gangster rapper since, well, anybody.…though most of his tunes were geared towards “Latin gangster rap,”…
- Billboard in 2012 called him both "Daddy Yankee, Puerto Rican Rapper" and "Reggaeton star Daddy Yankee " and "The Grammy-winning rapper" and "said the rapper".
So it is obvious to me at least that these music sites consider him to be a rapper, either because of his work, or because they consider Reggae/reggaeton to be rap. I am calling this RfC (my second) to see what yall think, and to save me having to prove this over and over again as editors attempt to change one way or the other. Nominator has very little bias towards or against the subject. L3X1 My Complaint Desk 18:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
References
- He is not a rapper is a singer but seeing that the edit made by the user Flippyinvader being this does not hit me at all I had to remove that and take references. 1 148.0.106.205 (talk) 20:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- famousbirthdays.com is not reliable, so should be ignored. --Ronz (talk) 01:14, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
From what this article says about him, as well as what is in Reggaeton, it seems like "rapper" applies. For editors that think otherwise, please clearly explain what type of sources you feel would be needed to convince you of the same. --Ronz (talk) 01:23, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Sources:
- New York Times - he started rapping in Spanish...Spend time with Daddy Yankee, and inevitably, as rappers tend to do...Like any good rapper, Daddy Yankee practices a stylized brand of showmanship...Daddy Yankee was among a handful of aspiring young rappers...the new album, titled "El Cartel," will have Yankee rapping in a mix of Spanish and English
- Puerto Rico Herald - reggaeton rapper Daddy Yankee
- NBC New York - Puerto Rican rapper Daddy Yankee
- Billboard - including day-in-the-life footage of the rapper
- Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly - rapper Daddy Yankee
- Chicago Tribune - Puerto Rican rapper and former John McCain endorser Daddy Yankee Isaidnoway (talk) 07:10, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Include - "Rapper" should be included in the BLP as supported in the numerous reliable sources listed above. Meatsgains (talk) 03:35, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose: He's a singer-songwriter who integrated some rap elements into some of his stuff here and there. Most of those sources are the sort that confuse rapping and hip-hop (Billboard, too – they divide all of music into a tiny handful of categories, so it's habitual for them to overgeneralize). Hardly any modern pop singers don't occasionally introduce rap elements into their music. Hell, that goes back to at least Blondie's song "Rapture" (1980); doesn't make Debbie Harry a rapper. Having "done a little rap" doesn't make you a rapper. If I draw two pictures of my cats, that doesn't make me "an illustrator". Rapper is an occupation and/or a stance as an artist/entertainer, including an alignment with a particular subculture. When a singer-songwriter just does a rap track, they're a singer-songwriter who did a rap track, not a rapper. "Some RS said it" doesn't mean we automatically include something, especially if it's misleading/confusing for readers. Show me Daddy Yankee self-identifying as a rapper, then I have no objection. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ⱷ҅ᴥⱷ≼ 15:15, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
- Without sources, that's all original research on your part. If major music sources don't make the distinction that you're arguing, why should we? --Ronz (talk) 18:26, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
- I'm a rapper, but I know music. I know about registers, scales, tone. The fact that I rap doesn’t mean I don't understand what needs to happen vocally. and "I'm rapping in the song, in Spanglish," he said. Isaidnoway (talk) 19:51, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
- Comment by Nom Consensus appears to be he is a rapper, due to quotes and sources. I'll wait another week to close this in case any more editors step forward either for or against. L3X1 My Complaint Desk 03:15, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- Include per the many sources listed by Isaidnoway. Famous Birthdays may not be an RS, but major publications like The New York Times and Chicago Tribune sure are. Add how Daddy Yankee himself said that he's a rapper in an interview with Billboard and it's safe to say that we have more than enough to reliably go on when we say that Daddy Yankee is a rapper. Blurp92 (talk) 20:44, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Daddy Yankee
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Daddy Yankee's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "billboard2014":
- From Barrio Fino: "Daddy Yankee Remembers 'Gasolina' 10 Years Later: 'I Knew It Was a Home Run'". Billboard. Retrieved May 11, 2017.
- From Jowell & Randy: "Billboard Latin Music Awards: Complete List of 2014 Finalists". New York: Billboard. February 5, 2014. Retrieved June 27, 2017.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:01, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Popularity of Despacito
Katherine.Holt (talk) 16:18, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Birth year error
Daddy Yankee was born in 1977, not in 1976. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.221.176.31 (talk) 03:01, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
References to his birthday both day he was 45 on 3 Feb 2021. Which makes his birth year 1976. Is there any reference that states 1977 anywhere? Scott (talk) 15:03, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Here's one - https://www.allmusic.com/artist/daddy-yankee-mn0000559405/biography?1658652717608. Although I'm not sure how reliable AllMusic is (WP:ALLMUSIC)). Kiwipete (talk) 09:01, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
Dates
The mixtape he “debuted” on is listed as both 1991 and 1994, so something’s wrong. Doubtful he released (let alone coined the genre “reggaeton”) at 14 years old, but I’ll leave that to a more informed person to determine. 174.198.1.136 (talk) 05:12, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Retairement to dedicate to the Christian faith
The article doesn't cite any source about this news. 176.200.83.11 (talk) 22:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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