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The article delves into Assyrian identity, including its formation during the Old Assyrian period (Michel 2017). During this period and after it, Akkadian is spoken e.g. Erišum I's inscription, writings from Assyrian traders in Kaneš, et cetera. There are also pre-Old Assyrian texts written in Akkadian e.g., Zarriqum 2001 from the Third Dynasty of Ur. I'm not sure of any evidence of Sumerian being natively spoken in communities by Assyrian-identifying people (OA or later), nor am I sure as to why it would be included while languages like Arabic, spoken by many Assyrians natively, aren't included. ] (]) 04:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Hey, should we use — <small><small>] (] '''·''' ]) 09:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)</small></small> |
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:Since when is Zenda (an obviously Assyrianist website) a reliable source? --''']''' <sub>(])</sub> 10:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::If you consider Zinda unreliable, that means Zinda is reliable and flawless. — <small><small>] (] '''·''' ]) 10:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)</small></small> |
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:::No I dont think we should use it. I always emphisize on using census provided by each state. And if census date isn't available, then we look for other sources, like Zinda, etc. ] (]) 14:27, 13 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::::That's my point, we don't have census for many countries which this Zinda link covers. I don't see the problem. Benne is of course protesting as usual because it's Zinda and not Aramnahrin but I don't see how that is a problem since this isn't about the name dispute. — <small><small>] (] '''·''' ]) 20:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)</small></small> |
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:::::Well obviously Zinda claiming 400,000 Assyrians live in United States, isn't neutral. ] (]) 21:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::Oh come on, do you seriously believe there are only 82 000 Assyrians in all of the United States? That's just the recent census, and I seriously doubt every single Assyrian participated in that census. — <small><small>] (] '''·''' ]) 09:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)</small></small> |
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:::::::Of course there are more then 82K, but we don't know exactly how much. Thats why I believe it is more apropriate to post most recent census. Its unfortunate the US does census only once very ten years, but oh well, we'll wait in 2010 to see what the population is. ] (]) 14:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::::My suggestion to use this Zinda link as statistics is not about the US census. I think it should be used where we don't have statistics available. — <small><small>] (] '''·''' ]) 16:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)</small></small> |
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:::::::::Thats fine. Perhaps we can post all the smaller countries in teh Assyrian diaspora page. ] (]) 16:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC) |
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The article delves into Assyrian identity, including its formation during the Old Assyrian period (Michel 2017). During this period and after it, Akkadian is spoken e.g. Erišum I's inscription, writings from Assyrian traders in Kaneš, et cetera. There are also pre-Old Assyrian texts written in Akkadian e.g., Zarriqum 2001 from the Third Dynasty of Ur. I'm not sure of any evidence of Sumerian being natively spoken in communities by Assyrian-identifying people (OA or later), nor am I sure as to why it would be included while languages like Arabic, spoken by many Assyrians natively, aren't included. Shamash Uballit (talk) 04:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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