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The CA building in Israel is actualy in Herzliya not Tel-Aviv. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:58, 31 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Acquisition List==
Is the acquisition list appropriate? For comparison I checked ] (another company with many acquisitions) and there is no similar list there.
If the list it kept, I also believe it should be in chronological order rather than most recent one first.
] (]) 14:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
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The 3tera acquisition brought in the AppLogic platform. CA Spectrum was acquired through the Concord Communications acquisition since they had acquired Aprisma. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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I'm pulling the following bits out of the rewrite for now because I haven't been able to make sense of what is being said, and I am unable to verify what I can work out is being said. I'm pulling the following bits out of the rewrite for now because I haven't been able to make sense of what is being said, and I am unable to verify what I can work out is being said.


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] 15:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC) not the best software in the world, WWW.ASG.COM has far better software - I have just completed a swap of CA solutions to ASG offerings due to costs and features. IMHO ] 15:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC) not the best software in the world, WWW.ASG.COM has far better software - I have just completed a swap of CA solutions to ASG offerings due to costs and features. IMHO

This whole article needs work, it is written as an advertisement rather than an encyclopedic entry. Specifically the history starts with talking about IBM, what was CA's relationship to IBM? Content should be limited to relative information to CA Technologies.
] (]) 12:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


==Acquisition / Product Offering Consolidation== ==Acquisition / Product Offering Consolidation==
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== Charles Wang == == Charles Wang ==
I had always heard that Charles Wang's last name was actually pronounced Wong and that if you were applying there and messed that fact up you were immediately disqualified. Anyone else hear that or have a source? ] 14:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I had always heard that Charles Wang's last name was actually pronounced Wong and that if you were applying there and messed that fact up you were immediatly disqualified. Anyone else hear that or have a source? ] 14:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Charles Wang's last name ''is'' actually pronounced "Wong," but I don't think they "immediately disqualify" you if you mispronounce it during an interview. Charles himself would correct you. It should be noted that Charles HATES to be called "Charlie," though. :Charles Wang's last name ''is'' actually pronounced "Wong," but I don't think they "immediately disqualify" you if you mispronounce it during an interview. Charles himself would correct you. It should be noted that Charles HATES to be called "Charlie," though.


== "Where software goes to die" == == "Where software goes to die" ==

I've heard this expression around the software industry - but don't know if it's appropriate for the article, etc. Suggestions? --] 03:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC) I've heard this expression around the software industry - but don't know if it's appropriate for the article, etc. Suggestions? --] 03:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Probably not. Unless this phrase was used widely in ], it would not meet the criteria for inclusion in this encyclopedia article. The criteria for including facts like this are at ]. --] (]) 21:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC) :Probably not. Unless this phrase was used widely in ], it would not meet the criteria for inclusion in this encyclopedia article. The criteria for including facts like this are at ]. --] (]) 21:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


See the following for quotes of "where software goes to die" ::See the following for quotes of "where software goes to die"
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=181500365 http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=181500365
http://www.vnunet.com/articles/print/2152300 http://www.vnunet.com/articles/print/2152300


::I think the term is in line with policy, as long as you mention explicitly it is a Larry Ellison quote. However, as it is a bit of a crude joke, personally I would think twice before entering it. When you give it some thought, the statement is actually incorrect. CA is not known for killing software, but for 'milking' mature software packages: maintaining lucrative support contracts.
==Edited for Neutral tone==
::--] (]) 12:32, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


:::While it is a quote from Larry Ellison (a competitor), it was in common use in the industry before he said it.
Removed any material that could be regarded as adverstising. Article now has a style similar to other software manufactures that are not flagged as non-neutral (e.g. BMC Software)

:::And there's a certain amount of truth to it.
:::Often useful software products were developed & nurtured by an initial developer with a few experienced associates. By then the product had become very successful in the industry, and the company was bought out by CA for a high price. And since those early developers & maintainers were usually part-owners of the company, they became wealthy in that buy-out. Many of them decided to retire then. Others found the change from being the core of a small company to being a small division of a large software conglomerate unpalatable, and also left soon afterward. So it was common to see a 'brain drain' of the most experienced staff after a product was acquired by CA. This could lead to a drop in the quality of customer support, and somewhat of a stagnation in the product -- new features were slow to be added, because nobody was left with the vision & experience to design them (plus they now had to be approved by layers of CA management).

:::So good software didn't actually die under CA -- it just stopped growing (which is pretty close to dying, in the software industry). CA didn't kill off software products; it kept them alive as 'cash cows', milking them of all possible income, while investing little or nothing into their maintenance & development. ] (]) 08:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

== Small Business software ==

Surprisingly, there is no mention of CA's involvement in small business computing, with a series of products called "Accpac", and a competitor to Lotus called "Supercalc".

These products were marketed as an integrated business unit in the 1980s on a DOS platform for micro-computers, i.e. the original IBM PC and its growth family. A major innovation was an integrated product called "Windowing System Manager" and the ability to import from its Spreadsheet (which had advanced Macro capabilities well ahead of Lotus) -- at the time. In South Africa, their marketing unit was sold to a company called "LA Technology" ] who continued the line to the point that almost all accounting on small computers in RSA was handled by Accpac (for DOS) - most job adverts commonly called for Accpac knowledge, to the point of a major market share above other products (in South Africa and many other English speaking countries, except the UK - where Sage held sway). Additionally, CA Accpac, and LA Technologies, encouraged additional add on modules of software written independently to integrate.

Development continued meanwhile of Microsoft Windows, and CA were slow to re-develop their product for Windows, missing out initially on core modules such as AR, AC, by just releasing only a GL (General or Nominal ledger). Obsolescense followed; Sage eventually took over the product.] (]) 08:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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] (]) 00:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC) ] (]) 00:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:It is pretty neutral by now, but it is too much oriented towards corporate structure and economical info. I'm more interested in how it earns money: products and services. Said: ] (]) 14:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

::I see that a speedy delete was thrown on this recently. CA is one of Long Island's biggest employers and with nearly 14,000 employees it's kinda a big ass company. There's a giant complex of support buildings including several hotels built around its hq. It needs to be toned down on the advert wording but the company itself is VERY notable. ] (]) 09:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Changed label to 'tidy' ] (]) 16:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

==S/W==
Does anyone have info on its software? '''Info needed!''' Said: ] (]) 14:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== How to change article title to match current name? ==
So now that CA, Inc has officially been renamed "CA Technologies", how do we change the name of this article from "CA, Inc." to CA Technologies"? I saw nowhere on the page edit form to do so. ] (]) 19:32, 26 May 2010 (UTC)Brian Zurita
:{{ping|V Brian Zurita}} Done, based on . ] (]) 07:10, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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The CA building in Israel is actualy in Herzliya not Tel-Aviv. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.177.214.69 (talk) 13:58, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Acquisition List

Is the acquisition list appropriate? For comparison I checked Cisco Systems (another company with many acquisitions) and there is no similar list there. If the list it kept, I also believe it should be in chronological order rather than most recent one first. Kevink707 (talk) 14:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC) No mention of the Netegrity acquisition for $430M in 2004 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.51.184.11 (talk) 14:37, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

The 3tera acquisition brought in the AppLogic platform. CA Spectrum was acquired through the Concord Communications acquisition since they had acquired Aprisma. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.156.39.54 (talk) 20:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Cruft

I'm pulling the following bits out of the rewrite for now because I haven't been able to make sense of what is being said, and I am unable to verify what I can work out is being said.

  • The company reached an agreement with the Securities and Exchange Commission to pay $225 million in compensation to shareholders.
  • SEC, FBI, and Deputy Attorney General James Comey (head of the Bush Administration's Corporate Fraud Task Force)
  • It was the world's third-largest independent software company with approximately 16,000 employees, and a 1999 IndustryWeek 1000 company.

--Tony Sidaway 19:27, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

135.196.23.9 15:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC) not the best software in the world, WWW.ASG.COM has far better software - I have just completed a swap of CA solutions to ASG offerings due to costs and features. IMHO

This whole article needs work, it is written as an advertisement rather than an encyclopedic entry. Specifically the history starts with talking about IBM, what was CA's relationship to IBM? Content should be limited to relative information to CA Technologies. D.justins (talk) 12:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Acquisition / Product Offering Consolidation

CA's acquisition of Concord gives it new products and technologies, namely eHealth and SPECTRUM. I'm still not sure if they plan on folding some of the tech from SPECTRUM / eHealth into the existing Unicenter product line, or if the will continue to exist as a separate product. CA does still appear to be selling SPECTRUM as a standalone product at this point in time. Tel Janin 03:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Charles Wang

I had always heard that Charles Wang's last name was actually pronounced Wong and that if you were applying there and messed that fact up you were immediately disqualified. Anyone else hear that or have a source? Sabalon 14:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Charles Wang's last name is actually pronounced "Wong," but I don't think they "immediately disqualify" you if you mispronounce it during an interview. Charles himself would correct you. It should be noted that Charles HATES to be called "Charlie," though.

"Where software goes to die"

I've heard this expression around the software industry - but don't know if it's appropriate for the article, etc. Suggestions? --64.252.38.171 03:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Probably not. Unless this phrase was used widely in secondary sources, it would not meet the criteria for inclusion in this encyclopedia article. The criteria for including facts like this are at Misplaced Pages:Verifiability. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
See the following for quotes of "where software goes to die"

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=181500365 http://www.vnunet.com/articles/print/2152300

I think the term is in line with policy, as long as you mention explicitly it is a Larry Ellison quote. However, as it is a bit of a crude joke, personally I would think twice before entering it. When you give it some thought, the statement is actually incorrect. CA is not known for killing software, but for 'milking' mature software packages: maintaining lucrative support contracts.
--BalderV (talk) 12:32, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
While it is a quote from Larry Ellison (a competitor), it was in common use in the industry before he said it.
And there's a certain amount of truth to it.
Often useful software products were developed & nurtured by an initial developer with a few experienced associates. By then the product had become very successful in the industry, and the company was bought out by CA for a high price. And since those early developers & maintainers were usually part-owners of the company, they became wealthy in that buy-out. Many of them decided to retire then. Others found the change from being the core of a small company to being a small division of a large software conglomerate unpalatable, and also left soon afterward. So it was common to see a 'brain drain' of the most experienced staff after a product was acquired by CA. This could lead to a drop in the quality of customer support, and somewhat of a stagnation in the product -- new features were slow to be added, because nobody was left with the vision & experience to design them (plus they now had to be approved by layers of CA management).
So good software didn't actually die under CA -- it just stopped growing (which is pretty close to dying, in the software industry). CA didn't kill off software products; it kept them alive as 'cash cows', milking them of all possible income, while investing little or nothing into their maintenance & development. T-bonham (talk) 08:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Small Business software

Surprisingly, there is no mention of CA's involvement in small business computing, with a series of products called "Accpac", and a competitor to Lotus called "Supercalc".

These products were marketed as an integrated business unit in the 1980s on a DOS platform for micro-computers, i.e. the original IBM PC and its growth family. A major innovation was an integrated product called "Windowing System Manager" and the ability to import from its Spreadsheet (which had advanced Macro capabilities well ahead of Lotus) -- at the time. In South Africa, their marketing unit was sold to a company called "LA Technology" who continued the line to the point that almost all accounting on small computers in RSA was handled by Accpac (for DOS) - most job adverts commonly called for Accpac knowledge, to the point of a major market share above other products (in South Africa and many other English speaking countries, except the UK - where Sage held sway). Additionally, CA Accpac, and LA Technologies, encouraged additional add on modules of software written independently to integrate.

Development continued meanwhile of Microsoft Windows, and CA were slow to re-develop their product for Windows, missing out initially on core modules such as AR, AC, by just releasing only a GL (General or Nominal ledger). Obsolescense followed; Sage eventually took over the product.Terry nyorks (talk) 08:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Request that page is not deleted, since it has been edited for a more Neutral tone

Thank you for reviewing this article. I have edited and removed all material that could have been regarded as advertising or non-neutral. Article now has a style similar to other software manufactures that are not flagged as non-neutral (e.g. BMC Software). Many thanks for your help.

Watpe01 (talk) 00:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

It is pretty neutral by now, but it is too much oriented towards corporate structure and economical info. I'm more interested in how it earns money: products and services. Said: Rursus () 14:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I see that a speedy delete was thrown on this recently. CA is one of Long Island's biggest employers and with nearly 14,000 employees it's kinda a big ass company. There's a giant complex of support buildings including several hotels built around its hq. It needs to be toned down on the advert wording but the company itself is VERY notable. Americasroof (talk) 09:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Changed label to 'tidy' Cosnahang (talk) 16:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

S/W

Does anyone have info on its software? Info needed! Said: Rursus () 14:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

How to change article title to match current name?

So now that CA, Inc has officially been renamed "CA Technologies", how do we change the name of this article from "CA, Inc." to CA Technologies"? I saw nowhere on the page edit form to do so. Brian (talk) 19:32, 26 May 2010 (UTC)Brian Zurita

@V Brian Zurita: Done, based on the about us section of the official web site. RevelationDirect (talk) 07:10, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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CA Inc. vs. CA Technologies, a subsidiary of Broadcom

I modified the InfoBox, which had been CA, Inc. changed to defunct in 2018. However, the page is now about CA Technologies, a subsidiary of Broadcom, Inc. So, I deleted the defunct & the ticker symbol and changed the name to be CA Technologies. Perhaps this page should stay about CA, Inc.? but, most changes reflect the subsidiary, so, I made the changes. Bodysurfinyon (talk) 21:29, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Recommend Removing Advertisement Tag

I removed over 2,700 characters of promotional content. I think that the page reads more neutral now, but also wanted to get other editors' opinions as to whether the tag should remain or not. Thoughts? (GreerPedal7) 18:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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