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== Request banned user (I alway enjoy my Ice Cream =)......Meow) ==

Jimbo, will you please ban ] from Misplaced Pages. This user was blocked for vandalized editing. -- 00:23, February 3, 2008 (UTC)

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] (]) has smiled at you! Smiles promote ] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! <br /> <small>''Smile at others by adding {{tls|Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''</small>
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== COI, anon, cabal, content arbcom ==

Jimbo, above you said:
:"''I don't think this is a fair representation of what has happened. The article, when I have looked at it (not recently) seemed to be quite good to me, whereas the version proposed by the other side was not even remotely close to ok.--] (]) 02:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)''"

I want you to notice that here you are making a content decision in order to judge COI in order to decide whether or not a public discussion of a possible real world identity should take place. This sort of thing is obviously needed when wikipedia values both NPOV (so we have to watch out for COI) and anonymous editing (so we have to not take outing lightly). The problem I see in this case is that the sock war has resulted in public claims (e.g. in letters published by the SEC that are against both sides in the wikipedia war) that the articles have been biased by banning socks on the basis of the content they wished to add to the articles; resulting in the question of who at wikipedia should be evaluating the content of these articles for NPOV. We do not have a content arbcom. I think we should move in the direction of having an academically based one. It is policy that the community decides content, not a cabal. Yet, when a few people talk privately in order to avoid public discussion of a real world identity and that private group takes it upon itself to define NPOV for some articles in order to decide a COI question, then we have in fact a cabal making itself a content arbcom for those articles. It occurs to me that, since we have a de facto content arbcom when real life identities are involved, we need some sort of check&balance. For example, instead of saying "''seemed to be quite good to me''" suppose you were able to say "''I asked a favor of two university professors who are experts in these articles to review the articles for bias (and accuracy, if they had time) and both thought it was a neutral presentation and said so on the talk page using their real names''". I think we need to move in the direction of using real life experts for content arbitration in those few cases that cause huge problems. ] (]) 23:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

::WAS 4.250, I ask you to please be more precise. I am not "making a content decision in order to judge COI in order to decide whether or not a public discussion of a possible real world identity should take place". I said nothing about "whether or not a public discussion of a possible real world identity should take place" nor do I see any way in which a content decision plays any role in that. I am fully in favor of a public discussion of real world identity, and I have in fact posted publicly about it myself. This idea of a private group taking it upon itself to define NPOV, etc., bears no similarity to anything I support or agree with at all. I support a full public discussion of this entire situation.--] (]) 20:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

:I came here to respond to exactly the above statement, which User:Mantanmoreland has linked to in his defence.
:I encourage you to read my evidence on ]. I think you'll see where the problem lies, and why you were, not to put too fine a point on it, mistaken. ] (]) 10:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
::Somebody should write a primer to all of this. I've been trying to follow it, but my eyes have glazed over. While I appreciate the tips people have been sending me for column suggestions, the backstory to this (wiki-)drama is immense. -- ] (]) 02:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Repost and elaboration from above'''. Cla68 is more familiar with the history of this case, so I defer "suppression" evidence to ]. Incidentally, he cites ]. Do you suppose this could be undeleted for the duration of the arbitration? You were the one who deleted it, so I thought it best to ask you.

The deletion debate is especially enlightening in light of ]. ] '']'' 20:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Absolutely sick of the poor community on this website ==

Jim, I'm leaving Misplaced Pages. I am absolutely sick of the piss poor attitude of people on this site. This is a great idea Jimmy, but there's not enough oversight, there's little community, and I'm tired of the grief I get. I have other things I can do with my time. I wrote a note . I'm really fed up, and my being blocked earlier this week on a whim, when I violated no policy (not even 3RR) because I continually changed a Talk page title that disparaged me and my work, in addition to attitudes like I found on your own talk page, and I'm just tired of it. --<font color="#0000C0">David</font> ''']''' 15:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

:You threatened to leave earlier when Misplaced Pages refused to republish the original research you posted at Wikinews. In my opinion, you have helped Wikimedia and its projects a great deal and you will be missed; but you were here partly to promote yourself and you are seeing the limits of this venue for that purpose and so you are right to see what you can achieve elsewhere. Please feel welcome to participate here any time when it serves both Wikimedia and you to do so. Ya gotta earn a buck. We all do. Good luck. ] (]) 15:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

::Mikkalai, one of our oldest and most prolific contributors, said a while back that the only reason to stay at wikipedia (as unpaid volunteers) is because we get something personal out of it. David, you said you didn't even have a camera until wikipedia inspired you to get one and you now have 3000 images uploaded, you also have gained useful interviewing experience I imagine at wikinews; and while we can maybe get a good feeling helping the laudable educational aims of this project surely any of us who have contributed considerably simply must have got something out of the project too, and that is absolutely the way it should be. It isn't COI for me to say that just being around a web 2.0 site is hugely helpful professionally, and really I would say to anyone, a la Mikkalai, that if you are personally benefitting in a selfish way from your work here then that is probably a good reason to continue whereas if you are not its probably a very good reason to retire. There is no way iw ould stay other than that I get tangible bbenefits from my experiences working here. Well just a thought. Thanks, ] 22:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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== Nice article ==
and i am now worried that i never thought you would, you only invented the damn thing! anyway thanks, thanks and again thanks] (]) 20:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


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== Seasonal greetings :) ==
Have you been to Boston lately? Its quite a lovely city. ] (]) 04:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


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The guideline under ] is only a proposed guideline. I was wondering how, if possible, to make it a rule on wikipedia. The reason I inquire is: I find it fairly difficult to find high schools with third party sources. I've seen some schools get deleted because of this. The reason given is always ]. I think that schools should recieve a category of their own. Please, if possible, leave a response on my ] ] (]) 05:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
|}<span id="Benison:1734890634947:User_talkFTTCLNJimbo_Wales" class="FTTCmt">&mdash;&nbsp;Benison <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 18:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)</span>
:You may want to read ]. '''''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>''''' 11:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::I've read that, but it just told me what I already knew. I'm saying that, the longer this remains a proposal, the longer school articles will get deleted because they lack a third party source. I look at it in the sense that not every school is talked about in a third party source. ] (]) 12:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::If there are no third party sources, then generally I think things should be deleted, due to the risk of hoax or other forms of misinformation.--] (]) 15:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


== Old edits to your user page retrieved, your very early edits, etc. ==
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Hi Jimmy, I've moved your user page edits from their previous location at "Jimbo Wales" to {{noredirect|User:Jimbo Wales/old2}} with ], so they're no longer in the main namespace; the title "{{noredirect|User:Jimbo Wales/old}}" was ]. I then imported edits to your user page from some 2001 database dumps, most notably the one from August 2001, so we can now see ]! I hope this is all OK with you.
Hello Jimbo. I'm sure you know, the issue of the ] and ] characters in the Misplaced Pages logo being wrong has been brought up again and again on Misplaced Pages discussion forums and mailing lists. Or at least that's what I've now heard &mdash; I hadn't actually heard anything about this until I saw it ]. Also, as far as I can see, the main reason it's never been changed is because nobody's willing to take the time to fix it. But &mdash; I ''']''', last week. I replaced the two wrong characters and left the rest as is. The logo is not actually ''too difficult'' to fix so it seems silly not to.


It's a long story how I ended up doing this. So ] is celebrating a milestone of 20% of our biographical articles being about women. In the ], a ] about who was the first woman to get a biographical entry here]]. I was able to give a ] of ] on ]! I've been spending the last couple of days checking the very early edits of the first biographies created around that time, and came upon ] (or ThomasEdison as it was at first in CamelCase). In the process of consolidating the Thomas Edison page history, I moved your edit from "ThomasEdison" to "Thomas Edison"; your early edit to that page on 23 January (UTC) was previously listed as the first one but ].
Since it's a Foundation logo, I really don't know what to do or how to propose it, or how to get consensus for it. There's no standard procedure but I'm asking on your talk page for your input. I'd like other editors to comment on it too. Thank you. • ] <sup>(])</sup> 15:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
== controversial ban ==


As noted in various places like ], your first surviving edit under the username "JimboWales" was to the ThomasEdison (or Thomas Edison) page. I checked the August 2001 database dump for any earlier ones, found them, and imported to the English Misplaced Pages database. Of course you made earlier edits, but it's interesting to find early contributions attached to your username (in CamelCase form or otherwise). ] (]) 15:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
I Jimbo. Once again, I am asking you to (at least) take a look at . by admin ] was . But the user is still blocked indef. that no other sockpuppet was used. Neither ''after'' the ban, nor '''before''' the ban. Thank you. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:Such nerdy presents we give. Thanks, brother. ] (]) 16:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
==Third time, let me be more concise==
Do you mind if I undelete ] for the duration of the Arbitration? Y/N ] '']'' 20:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC) ::No worries. My Christmas gifts are ], as I realised later. ] (]) 05:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


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    Nice article

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    Seasonal greetings :)

    Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

    Hello Jimbo Wales, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
    Happy editing,
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    Old edits to your user page retrieved, your very early edits, etc.

    Hi Jimmy, I've moved your user page edits from their previous location at "Jimbo Wales" to User:Jimbo Wales/old2 with a little assistance, so they're no longer in the main namespace; the title "User:Jimbo Wales/old" was already taken. I then imported edits to your user page from some 2001 database dumps, most notably the one from August 2001, so we can now see the first version of your user page on 19 January 2001 (UTC)! I hope this is all OK with you.

    It's a long story how I ended up doing this. So WikiProject Women in Red is celebrating a milestone of 20% of our biographical articles being about women. In the draft press release about this event, a question was raised about who was the first woman to get a biographical entry here]]. I was able to give a definitive answer of Rosa Parks on 21 January 2001 (UTC)! I've been spending the last couple of days checking the very early edits of the first biographies created around that time, and came upon Thomas Edison (or ThomasEdison as it was at first in CamelCase). In the process of consolidating the Thomas Edison page history, I moved your edit from "ThomasEdison" to "Thomas Edison"; your early edit to that page on 23 January (UTC) was previously listed as the first one but not any more.

    As noted in various places like this discussion, your first surviving edit under the username "JimboWales" was to the ThomasEdison (or Thomas Edison) page. I checked the August 2001 database dump for any earlier ones, found them, and imported all of them to the English Misplaced Pages database. Of course you made earlier edits, but it's interesting to find early contributions attached to your username (in CamelCase form or otherwise). Graham87 (talk) 15:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

    Such nerdy presents we give. Thanks, brother. BusterD (talk) 16:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
    No worries. My Christmas gifts are so predictable, as I realised later. Graham87 (talk) 05:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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