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	A vandal is a person who deliberately damages property, information etc. Vandalism is the act of damaging the property, information etc.
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			== Vandalism? Promotion? ==
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			posted in late February many television series releases (like ) on pages like ] like they are notable events. It don’t seems notable?. But is it also vandalism or promotion? Or should it all be moved to pages like ] ] (]) 13:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

	== ~~Was~~ ~~this~~ ~~vandalism?~~ ==		== should be protected ==

			the page should be protected ] (]) 23:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
	], including on the ], was recently editted to include a Christmas message/advert for a project. While the person that did it could claim the ] rule I think that the lack of discussion and repeated reversion could be seen as a kind of vandalism. Yes, it was quite appropriate but, at least in it's rather ugly form, it should not have been done. I can see both sides of the argument - anyone got any views? ] ] 14:36, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

			== I do not think that all humorous writing is vandalism, and this page could acknowledge that. ==
	:It's not vandalism IMO, but it is against the 3RR ] \| ] 01:11, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

			Considering that vandalism is done in bad faith, and does not need to be humorous. Vandals can attempt to destroy Misplaced Pages out of hate.
	:I think the gesture was very nice, but I also think that they need to be told (gently) that breaking the 3RR is definitely frowned upon, and that we try to keep the templates to a minimum because there is not much real estate on the front page. I don't think it was vandalism. - ] 02:55, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

			Examples of humorous writing that is in good faith, but still disruptive, is when adding constructive material in an excessively humorous style, or inserting jokes that are meant to improve the fun of reading the article (and therefore helping it), but the jokes are out of place. Misplaced Pages is a serious wiki, after all. Sites like ] are examples of sites with a lot of humorous writing in good faith, to the point where humor is featured in encyclopedic material.
	: No, I don't think it was vandalism. There probably is a grey area for vandalism (e.g. link-spam), but I don't think this falls into it. This is just a Misplaced Pages editor doing something that they ''thought'' was fine, but which others disagreed with. ] ] 11:32, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

			There are templates to warn people who are adding inappropriate humor into pages, and where such writing is not proven to be vandalism (therefore not making those templates be redundant to those for warning about vandalism), and they are ], ], ], ] and ].
	I find that dates of birth and death are particularly vulnerable to sneaky vandalism.
	:Definitely not vandalism. Just a disagreement, probably made more difficult by a language barrier (i.e. English not being GerardM's first language.) "Vandalism" should only refer to deliberate defacement. GerardM clearly thought he was being reasonable, although from his comments I couldn't quite understand his rationale. ] 07:24, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

			How can this be acknowledged? Perhaps by mentioning something like this under "What is not vandalism" so that good-faith editors with too much humor can be seperated from those who want to damage this wiki, even if it can be hard to tell those two apart since humor happens to be common in vandalism. ] (]) 13:22, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

			:Yes ] (]) 10:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
	== ''Anyone'', Can Edit. Threats and Possibilities. ==

			== images of vandalism for examples? ==
	:There are many vague vandalism ]s of the endless possibilities of ] vandalism. One of such fears could be "What if suddenly Misplaced Pages is discovered by people who don't realize it is created for them also? What if for example, a random ] kid decides that it is funny to post an ] on a seemingly scholarly website? What is interesting about this sort of fear and possibility is that, for example, ''that'' ] would have the most to benefit from this site. Because what people underestimate is that EVERYONE has interests. Some people just don't realize they have the access to information to utilize them. In addition to the fact that person could realize they can have a voice and play an active role in editing biased statements about their ].

			I propose adding images as examples of vandalism, such as this
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			:I have to look at too much of this already. I'll quit if any of you make me start looking at it in my free time. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span>]</span> 06:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
	I think that it should be considered vandalism when someone eviscerates an article by deleting large quantities of factual, relevant reference material.] 19:14, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
			:No, we don't draw attention to trolls here, see ]. Please find something constructive to do. ] (]) 07:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

			== Feedback requested about homoglyph vandalism ==
	:Anyone looking at your edit history can see you're a controversial editor with an agenda, which is shown in articles such as ] and ]. ] 22:14, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

			Hello. A discussion is taking place regarding this tricky form of vandalism. Your feedback would be appreciated at ]. Thanks, ] (]) 20:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
	== Shortcut to this article ==

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	==POV vandalism==
	I disagree with the apparent blanket statement that POV edits are not vandalism. There are some cases - particularly where a user continues to restore POV rants that have repeatedly been deleted and go against clearly established consensus - where introduction of POV is indeed vandalism. --] ] 15:11, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)
	:It's disruption, yes, but it isn't vandalism. I don't think we need to try and umbrella all parts of the blocking policy under the one term ''vandalism'' where they don't fit. ] 16:48, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)

	==Policy==
	Is this page official policy? Should it have the <nowiki>{{policy}}</nowiki> template on it? ] ] 09:46, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

	== Hoaxes ==

	I see Hoaxes being described as vanadalism, and "Hoax from known vandal" as a reason for a speedy delete. But "Hoax" is not included in the list of types of vandalism. Should it be? ] 18:05, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

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Vandalism? Promotion?

IP-addresses including

likely many more in the same range

posted in late February many television series releases (like ) on pages like 2024 in the Netherlands like they are notable events. It don’t seems notable?. But is it also vandalism or promotion? Or should it all be moved to pages like 2024 in Dutch television 82.174.61.58 (talk) 13:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

should be protected

the page should be protected Truth protest (talk) 23:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

I do not think that all humorous writing is vandalism, and this page could acknowledge that.

Considering that vandalism is done in bad faith, and does not need to be humorous. Vandals can attempt to destroy Misplaced Pages out of hate.

Examples of humorous writing that is in good faith, but still disruptive, is when adding constructive material in an excessively humorous style, or inserting jokes that are meant to improve the fun of reading the article (and therefore helping it), but the jokes are out of place. Misplaced Pages is a serious wiki, after all. Sites like TV Tropes are examples of sites with a lot of humorous writing in good faith, to the point where humor is featured in encyclopedic material.

There are templates to warn people who are adding inappropriate humor into pages, and where such writing is not proven to be vandalism (therefore not making those templates be redundant to those for warning about vandalism), and they are here, here, here, here and here.

How can this be acknowledged? Perhaps by mentioning something like this under "What is not vandalism" so that good-faith editors with too much humor can be seperated from those who want to damage this wiki, even if it can be hard to tell those two apart since humor happens to be common in vandalism. CarlFilip19 (talk) 13:22, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes 194.74.221.162 (talk) 10:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

images of vandalism for examples?

I propose adding images as examples of vandalism, such as this

InsertCoolNameHere78 (talk) 06:45, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

I have to look at too much of this already. I'll quit if any of you make me start looking at it in my free time. Remsense ‥ 论 06:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

No, we don't draw attention to trolls here, see WP:DENY. Please find something constructive to do. Johnuniq (talk) 07:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Feedback requested about homoglyph vandalism

Hello. A discussion is taking place regarding this tricky form of vandalism. Your feedback would be appreciated at WT:AIV#Homoglyph vandalism. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

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