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| The result of the debate was '''delete'''. ]·] 03:27, July 29, 2005 (UTC) | |||
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| This appears to be fall-out from some edit war somewhere. ] 04:24, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | This appears to be fall-out from some edit war somewhere. ] 04:24, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | ||
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| *'''Delete'''. It is incomprehensible --] 12:55, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | *'''Delete'''. It is incomprehensible --] 12:55, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Allow''' , pace fair use of History and relevance to WP articles , such as the ] 'Dubious' (discussion) in which I exhibit the most simple error stemming from lack of historical understanding . Let me finish this job ....so you will be enabled to change your minds . The edit war concerns what I term censorship, please do not further strike against your own History or at least allow the full story and facts to emerge , finally, upon the WP . I really do assure you of my good faith and that this is no idle vandalism but the entire reverse . I would ask in fact that everyone help by going to the sources which I am not able to visit -such as the contemporary writer , like ] , and several others . You will understand that this page is a true portrait of history , in the single title it contains, and that future WP articles will not diminuish , but magnify these connections of utility . That the utility is deeply suspect and particularly relates to ] and the ] threat , makes the events portrayed by historians here, extremely contemporary and revealing of our present world -balance . '''I appeal to your good faiths''' by urging you to read it when it is finished . I am quite aware that this is not the normal form for an encyclopedic article , but suggest , in good faith , that a simple short interpretation would be considered POV by certain injured feelings and that in other words , there would be a complete failure of the WP to represent the world ''as it is'' . When there is sufficient wisdom that editors can agree as to the true nature of the facts and story, a simplified version could then be put forth . These sections could rest as the background proofs, such as are always required ,could they not? Please visit the expansion here and be patient . Even now please, each good faith editor-'''reverse your initial conclusions''' and suspend your judgements the while .] 15:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | *'''Allow''' , pace fair use of History and relevance to WP articles , such as the ] 'Dubious' (discussion) in which I exhibit the most simple error stemming from lack of historical understanding . Let me finish this job ....so you will be enabled to change your minds . The edit war concerns what I term censorship, please do not further strike against your own History or at least allow the full story and facts to emerge , finally, upon the WP . I really do assure you of my good faith and that this is no idle vandalism but the entire reverse . I would ask in fact that everyone help by going to the sources which I am not able to visit -such as the contemporary writer , like ] , and several others . You will understand that this page is a true portrait of history , in the single title it contains, and that future WP articles will not diminuish , but magnify these connections of utility . That the utility is deeply suspect and particularly relates to ] and the ] threat , makes the events portrayed by historians here, extremely contemporary and revealing of our present world -balance . '''I appeal to your good faiths''' by urging you to read it when it is finished . I am quite aware that this is not the normal form for an encyclopedic article , but suggest , in good faith , that a simple short interpretation would be considered POV by certain injured feelings and that in other words , there would be a complete failure of the WP to represent the world ''as it is'' . When there is sufficient wisdom that editors can agree as to the true nature of the facts and story, a simplified version could then be put forth . These sections could rest as the background proofs, such as are always required ,could they not? Please visit the expansion here and be patient . Even now please, each good faith editor-'''reverse your initial conclusions''' and suspend your judgements the while .] 15:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | ||
| *Let me delete entire- saving it to the discussion on a new empty ''Pope's Hitler'' article which I shall write in an encyclopedic entry, twenty lines max- howzat ? Isn't that fair ?] 15:56, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | *Let me delete entire- saving it to the discussion on a new empty ''Pope's Hitler'' article which I shall write in an encyclopedic entry, twenty lines max- howzat ? Isn't that fair ?] 15:56, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | ||
| *Incomprehensible, even given the knowledge of the book titled '']''. '''Delete'''. -- ] 17:04, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | *Incomprehensible, even given the knowledge of the book titled '']''. '''Delete'''. -- ] 17:04, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | ||
| *Delete, created for POV promotion. ] 17:57, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | *Delete, created for POV promotion. ] 17:57, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Delete: my ''wilting flower'' says ''cyborgs win''. Jesus said don't throw scraps to the dogs(Romans) . Keep your '''friki''' Im all over and done .You missed the story and I've got better things to do than paint cyborg brains . See link to ] Rfc (])''':http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Famekeeper#Response ] | |||
| *Ye gods! '''Delete''' and replace with redirect to ], a legitimate article although not without problems. ] 20:24, 2005 July 23 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''' as original research (as evidenced by "You shall see that ...") - ] 03:47, 24 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''', per ]'s last comment (and ]'s last too). -] 22:54, 23 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''': "Pope's Hitler" doesn't even make sense as a title. The Nazis did receive a lot of ''indirect'' support simply because they were not the Communists; a lot of people (even the Papacy) tried to pick the lesser of two evils, and maybe picked wrong, and maybe didn't. But this article isn't about that (or about anything in particular, really). ] 05:23, 24 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| **Is that what ] is about? ] 20:39, 24 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete''' ] 17:33, 24 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete'''. Appears to be pure original research. ]] 15:22, 25 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete'''. ] 16:28, 25 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete'''. Report facts, not name-calling. Work on the article for relevant popes, and work on the Hitler article. DON'T make an article titled with an accusation(however correct) ] | ] 16:56, July 26, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete'''. ] 17:05, 27 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Delete'''. — ] 06:43, July 28, 2005 (UTC) | |||
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Latest revision as of 05:39, 31 March 2022
This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. Dmcdevit·t 03:27, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
Pope's Hitler
This appears to be fall-out from some edit war somewhere. Uncle G 04:24, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as per Uncle G. Hamster Sandwich 04:28, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. This is not an encyclopedia article. — Ливай | Ⓣ 04:36, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete and Redirect to Hitler's Pope--Porturology 05:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. It is incomprehensible --Maustrauser 12:55, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Allow , pace fair use of History and relevance to WP articles , such as the Holocaust 'Dubious' (discussion) in which I exhibit the most simple error stemming from lack of historical understanding . Let me finish this job ....so you will be enabled to change your minds . The edit war concerns what I term censorship, please do not further strike against your own History or at least allow the full story and facts to emerge , finally, upon the WP . I really do assure you of my good faith and that this is no idle vandalism but the entire reverse . I would ask in fact that everyone help by going to the sources which I am not able to visit -such as the contemporary writer , like Writer John Cornwell , and several others . You will understand that this page is a true portrait of history , in the single title it contains, and that future WP articles will not diminuish , but magnify these connections of utility . That the utility is deeply suspect and particularly relates to anti-semitism and the Communist threat , makes the events portrayed by historians here, extremely contemporary and revealing of our present world -balance . I appeal to your good faiths by urging you to read it when it is finished . I am quite aware that this is not the normal form for an encyclopedic article , but suggest , in good faith , that a simple short interpretation would be considered POV by certain injured feelings and that in other words , there would be a complete failure of the WP to represent the world as it is . When there is sufficient wisdom that editors can agree as to the true nature of the facts and story, a simplified version could then be put forth . These sections could rest as the background proofs, such as are always required ,could they not? Please visit the expansion here and be patient . Even now please, each good faith editor-reverse your initial conclusions and suspend your judgements the while .Famekeeper 15:31, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Let me delete entire- saving it to the discussion on a new empty Pope's Hitler article which I shall write in an encyclopedic entry, twenty lines max- howzat ? Isn't that fair ?Famekeeper 15:56, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Incomprehensible, even given the knowledge of the book titled Hitler's Pope. Delete. -- Antaeus Feldspar 17:04, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, created for POV promotion. Wile E. Heresiarch 17:57, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: my wilting flower says cyborgs win. Jesus said don't throw scraps to the dogs(Romans) . Keep your friki Im all over and done .You missed the story and I've got better things to do than paint cyborg brains . See link to myy Rfc (kill famekeeper):http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Famekeeper#Response Famekeeper
- Ye gods! Delete and replace with redirect to Hitler's Pope, a legitimate article although not without problems. PatGallacher 20:24, 2005 July 23 (UTC)
- Delete as original research (as evidenced by "You shall see that ...") - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 03:47, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, per Famekeeper's last comment (and PatGallacher's last too). -Splash 22:54, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: "Pope's Hitler" doesn't even make sense as a title. The Nazis did receive a lot of indirect support simply because they were not the Communists; a lot of people (even the Papacy) tried to pick the lesser of two evils, and maybe picked wrong, and maybe didn't. But this article isn't about that (or about anything in particular, really). Peter Grey 05:23, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
- Is that what Catholic Holocaust Conspiracy is about? Uncle G 20:39, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Str1977 17:33, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Appears to be pure original research. Jayjg 15:22, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Robert McClenon 16:28, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Report facts, not name-calling. Work on the article for relevant popes, and work on the Hitler article. DON'T make an article titled with an accusation(however correct) Superm401 | Talk 16:56, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Ann Heneghan 17:05, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. — Hillel 06:43, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.