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== Rollbacks ==

Guy, I'm a pretty small editor here, and I have more respect for you than I do for almost anyone else on this site. Can you explain your rationale in rollback'ing all of Cdog's invitations to discuss the Hezbollah userbox thing? Was something at risk that needed to be immediately corrected? ] (]) 07:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
(I forgot, also see ) ] (]) 07:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

:Seconded. While I don't care about userboxes at all in any way, I do object to a comment being removed from my talk page by'' anyone''. This includes myself, the person who wrote it, God almighty, etc.] (]) 08:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

::Thirded. And it's strange that an editor whose talk page notes that they are "retired" would go around removing messages on the talk pages of other editors that are alerting them to an ongoing debate in which they previously participated. ]<sup>]</sup> 12:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:Removing entries from talk pages other than your own is considered vandalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Vandalism). Please refrain from making such edits to my page in future. ] (]) 08:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::Awesome-Thai-shrimp-soup, "is considered vandalism" is going too far, I've taken obscenities off other editors pages so they don't get up in the morning and see them. I'd do the same for you until you told me to stop. We're just asking for an explanation here. It's not vandalism yet. ] (]) 09:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::: Rollback of wide-scale canvassing is not vandalism, see ]. Accusing administrators of vandalism for doing mundane cleanup tasks, however, is considered incivil. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 09:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Herm, I can't follow the escalating alphabeticals too well, that might be answered with an AGF or something, I always get a STACK_OVERFLOW around there :) Returning to my first, was there a specific violation? It did seem that the editor was trying to solicit a wide variety of opinion in good faith. Perhaps a desire to not return to the "userbox wars"? I'm too new for that. I would like to understand your rationale, and I'm still unclear on the use of rollback in a non-vandalism case. ] (]) 09:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Specifically, within the criteria of ] and especially ], certainly because I was (briefly) involved in the ANI discussion I would be "involved" for consideration of the policy, and it would not be unreasonable to consider the ] members as having involvement. I regularly respond to posts at ], is there a great degree of difference? ] (]) 09:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

* Canvassing is ]. A notice on the appropriate WikiProject(s) is the accepted means of notification, and even that can be a problem if it's (for example) the Anti-ZOMG-Censorship WikiProject. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 14:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::Well now, give me a link to follow that mentions the GOTO statement, I can understand that, it's poison! My concern was the apparent total vacuum of discussion or notification in which you operated, and also the thought that you might screw with my talk page, for whatever reason. As usual, you only need about six words to make things clear (30 this time, tsk-tsk), it just would be nice to see those six words beforehand! Thanks. ] (]) 15:05, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
*: I thought we forced them to remove the word ZOMG from their name? --] 14:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the query is here. I see a series of about 130 reverts by JzG, all of edits by a certain ], all of which are apparently part of a mass messaging campaign of user talk pages.

Is there any serious question about the appropriateness of reverting mass messaging? Is there any serious doubt that using a tool designed for quick reverts was the correct way of repairing this abuse of talk pages in an obvious attempt to pack the discussion at deletion review? --] 12:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

:Well thank you Anticipation for the answer, and congratulations on your apparent five-day mastery of the intricacies of WP ;) I was actually hoping for Guy's explanation, as he is an editor who I truly respect. In review of your comments, as I have discussed above, I'm of the opinion that Cdog's actions are (perhaps marginally) within compliance of ] and it is also my understanding that rollback is intended strictly as a tool to address vandalism. Your further illumination of these points is appreciated, and Ze Guy's is as well. Thanks! ] (]) 14:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:: Please don't try to imply that I'm masquerading as a new user.
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:: If you believe ]' edits on over 100 user talk pages were in any way acceptable, you're wrong. If your reading of ] leads you to believe this, it needs to be written more clearly. ], on the other hand, is written clearly, and expressly does not limit use of rollback to the reversion of vandalism. It might have been more appropriate to use a script that permits an edit summary to be given, assuming JzG was able to use such a script on his browser. --] 15:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

:: Rollback is there to fix things which are time-consuming to fix in any other way. Rather than have an escalating argument and people demanding use of the ] against Cdog, I assumed good faith (specifically, excess of zeal) and quickly and quietly fixed the problem. It took very little time, which is what rollback is for. Soonest is best, to avoid conflicting edits. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 14:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
== User Alansohn ==

I have received the following snippy message on my talk page today from ] He is again asserting, falsely, that ] and I are the same person. It appears that we are in the same geographical area, but I do not know which specific person has that user name.

Regardless, I believe Alansohn's actions are highly inappropriate. He has been bullying a number of Misplaced Pages editors for months, and has been very sloppy with his facts and accusations. Assuming that everything that he says is true, he is certainly confessed to knowingly violated ]. If there is some basis for you believing that I have violated Misplaced Pages policy, please let me know directly, rather than hearing about it through Alansohn's misguided and provocative posts. ] (]) 16:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

== Proposal RE: ]'s ''vow of silence'' ==

You are a previous participant in the discussion at ] about ]'s ''vow of silence''. This is to inform you, that I have made a proposal for resolution for the issue. I am informing all of the users who participated, so this is not an attempt to ] support for any particular position.

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== ]! Are you still out there? ==
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Hi ]! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


:I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year ]] 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Is it possible to get the material of the page ] back for a very special purpose? It was deleted without notifying me anything (yes, by the time I found out it was up for deletion, the body was already cold and rotting). And, it was deleted because "user pages are NOT a semi-permanent home for the not-ready-for-primetime" and "should not be preserved in userspace indefinitely" (see
]). Fine with me. But, there's another place for not-ready-for-prime time pieces that draw so violent opposition because people fail to appreciate the usefulness of growth. It's the I'm talking about, a tiny greenhouse for delicate articles that can't peacfully grow in the jungle we lovingly call the Misplaced Pages. Can I have the material back, so that I can work on it there? You can mail me the stuff, and therefore do no harm to Misplaced Pages. I am asking for this for a very simple reason - the material I was working on already incorporated painstaking diligence of a over a dozen editors, and it would be very difficult to redo the good work all over again. People should not start repairing by throwing them off the cliff first. Even if you are unable or reluctant to agree to my request (which is indeed a bit unorthodox already), please, do tell me how else can I attempt to start working on the stuff to make it Misplaced Pages-worthy one day. <font face="Kristen ITC" color="deeppink">]</font><sup>(] • ])</sup> 12:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
* For this subject? Sorry, no. If it were a company or a garage band then no problem, but we already cover this subject more than adequately and no amount of nurture can fix the problem with that particular POV-fork. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 12:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
** Okay. I am sorry to have asked. I was under the impression that the stated reasons were the basis of deletion. Sorry that you feel so strongly about the subject. <font face="Kristen ITC" color="deeppink">]</font><sup>(] • ])</sup> 02:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::* The subject was extensively debated, and consensus was clear. It's the subject that's the problem. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 08:40, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


::We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
== spam ==
:::October JzG sighting at ]. Does my heart good. --] (]) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
::::Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using ], and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
::::I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
::::I thought I'd drop in :-) ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! ] (]) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Glad you dropped by! ] (]) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. ]] 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::If Guy doesn't look at ] real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - ]the ] 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::Very happy see the little JzG! ] ] ] 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
:::::Hah! Good to see you're still around! ] 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. ''']] (])''' 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
:Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature ]. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, ]&nbsp;<sup><b>(])</b></sup> 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


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In case you didn't notice - IP address reverting your deletion of his spam links. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 13:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:Another admin blocked him. I'm reverting his reversions of your changes now. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 14:50, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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In addition to bone-deep burn scars on my left hand I now also have C7 radiculopathy, so my typing is particularly erratic right now. I have a spellcheck plugin but it can't handle larger text blocks. You're welcome to fix spelling errors without pinging me, but please don't change British to American spelling or indeed vice-versa.

JzG is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Misplaced Pages soon.

God Jul och Gott Nytt År!

Gråbergs Gråa Sång is wishing you the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas,
Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus,
or the Saturnalia,
this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.

JzG! Are you still out there?

Hi JzG! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year Girth Summit (blether) 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" Liz 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
October JzG sighting at WP:RSN. Does my heart good. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using Tenable, and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
I thought I'd drop in :-) Guy (help! - typo?) 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! Johnuniq (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Glad you dropped by! Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. Girth Summit (blether) 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
If Guy doesn't look at Talk:Alexander technique real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - Roxy the dog 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. Guy (help! - typo?) 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Very happy see the little JzG! bishzilla ROARR!! pocket 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
Hah! Good to see you're still around!  RasputinAXP  20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. starship.paint (exalt) 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature here. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, Arbitrarily0  11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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