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== lol ==

''Tosses you a ].'' <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 00:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:''Dons the helm and rides off.'' ] <sup>]</sup> 01:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::You forgot your lance. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 02:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:::What lance? He needs a ray gun..:) The socks are like mushrooms after the rain. ] (]) 03:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::::''Looks at the ray gun in disgust.'' How uncivilized. ''Chooses lightsaber instead.'' ] <sup>]</sup> 14:05, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

I hate to come by and ruin any good mood you have, but YOLT has requested an unblock. I have already declined the unblock, although with it he had seven points (in the section linked to above) where he's protesting his innocence. While I have rebutted most of them, I cannot answer his fifth concern (with regards to your third conclusion on the SPP case) as I am unfamiliar with the original dispute and Mudaliar; I was wondering if you could explain? -'']'' <sup>(<font color="0000FF">] ]</font>)</sup> 09:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

: Done. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hello Jehochman, I appreciate you helping me in the past, and I come to you requesting a little bit more. I recently reverted an edit by a user (page: ]) because I consider it to be dubious and away from the mainstream. He claims there are valid 'man-in-the-middle' attacks for a quantum cryptographic system, and deleted a large section of article devoted to explaining why they are not possible. You can read the talk page, as I explained to him why his edit doesn't belong, and then he reverted my edit. So rather than get into an "undo" war, I would like to divert this to an administrator for arbitration. Thank you. --] (]) 12:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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: What you need is mediation, not arbitration, or perhaps ]. Can you show some "diffs" where the editor is deleting material? Whatever you do, don't battle with them. Let them have their way, temporarily, and we'll get it sorted out. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, sorry I was unclear about the terms. Here is a diff of his deletions, and here is a link to the diff of 2 changes that I made: first reverting his deletion, then I deleted the last paragraph of the section because it is an unreasonable method to break a quantum encryption protocol, for reasons I specified in the talk section.

Also, I'm not very good at making links, as you can probably tell. How would i make an internal link to that diff page?--] (]) 16:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

: I suggest you contact ] and ask her to read the article. She is ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I've got to be honest, I'm not real impressed with Misplaced Pages's mediation policy. It's been a week since i raised this issue and since then the article has been edited a bunch of times despite the erroneous change that I dispute. I am better off, it seems, to just get into an edit war with someone rather than come to an admin for a thid opinion. Is this what all mediation is like?--] (]) 11:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

: No. Have you tried ] or ]? I am not a mediation specialist. ] <sup>]</sup> 11:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi, I'm coming to you because you closed the last one I opened - it has been confirmed at the related checkuser request that these are indeed sockpuppets - what happens now? -- ] (]) 10:41, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
: The checkuser clerks will block them. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:50, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

Jehochman an anon IP tried Spamming ] with their promotional links, but the text was good and relevent to the article. I removed the Spam links and created a new section SEO techniques. ] Still citation needed. I do not know if you like it but it does look good. Please take a look. If you like it we can keep it or if you do not agree with it just remove the section and the text. ] (]) 19:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:Okay but we may want to work that section in later on with reference to ]. It does look appropriate for the article topic. ] (]) 19:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
::Disregard! PageRank already in the article. ] (]) 23:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== Bot action on ] ==

A bot has removed your protection template . You may wish to reinstate a new one unless the protection is no longer warranted. -&nbsp;<font face="Verdana">]&nbsp;<sub>]</sub></font> 14:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Hi ==

I fail to understand. When Ronnotel can follow a single point agenda on Misplaced Pages to get me banned - why can't I respond? ] (]) 17:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

: You can respond, but you can't do unto him exactly as he does unto you, because Misplaced Pages isn't ]. If his accusations are false, explain why. Don't turn around and make you own false accusations against him. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:02, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Absidy et al. ==

Hey, has ] disclosed all of his sockpuppets to you? The "others before that" and "used only a time or two" comments on his user page are a tad disquieting. ](]) 23:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Protecting Randy B ==

You are either a truly lovely man or are choosing to protect an editor that shouldn't be protected. You chose to delete my comment to him in which I expressed concern that he mis-quoted me; in other words, he put into quotes a statement in which he said that I made (but didn't). I personally do not think that such editors should be protected. Other people should see that he seemingly showing bad faith on wikipedia. Then, another editor chose to defend Randy B by saying that I was "baiting" him. "Baiting" does not mean expressing concern about making quotes up out of thin air. My concern was real, and yet, for unknown reasons, you and other editors are protecting/defending an editor that perhaps should not be protected or defended...or worse, perhaps you are choosing to be complicate in these shenanigans. I want to AGF. Please tell me why I should. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

: I think you should not look at Misplaced Pages as a battleground where ideas clash and various editors struggle for the primacy of their beliefs. That is not what Misplaced Pages is supposed to be. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::Jehochman, unfortunately Misplaced Pages is becoming a battle ground. As you can see in this thread . If it is a ] it is a duck and we should not ] it but try to deal with the problem before it escalates itself beyond control. And this is not just a few editors' POV but the whole Internet community sees us in such light. ] (]) 00:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Jehochman...first, I have not told you yet, but you're one of the few people here who is transparent...and I have a great respect for those fellow editors who are transparent. I feel much more comfortable disagreeing (or agreeing) with a real person than an anonymous person. To clarify my intentions, I am not interested in the "primacy of beliefs." I am academically-oriented, and I'm interested in helping to create NPOV info on specific subjects that shows various viewpoints and that is notable and reliable. I do not want just "positive" info, but of the "negative" or skeptical info, it should be accurate and notable. What doesn't work is when editors are not honest and when other editors defend or protect them. Please give me a reason that I should not undo your deleting of the real and serious concerns that I expressed to Randy B. If you need to tell me something privately, please email me. ]<sup>]</sup> 03:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Jimbo ==

Your posts to my user talk were a little confusing at first. Then I realized you might have thought it was a surprise. If you like, tell Danny I can bring in Virgil Griffith too. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 04:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
: Well, you hadn't mentioned it before. Could you ask Virgil if he would license the Wikiscanner code? I could arrange hosting and constant maintenance. The database hasn't been updated since August. Keeping the thing running and paying for hosting is a non-trivial challenge, but I think I see a way to do it. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:37, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

== Help! Vietnam War article ==

Hi Jehochman, I'm concerned about the user CompScientist's recent edits to the Vietnam War page - please have a look.
Thank you! ] (]) 03:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

== Conflict of interest ==

Jehochman, can you please take a look at a short essay that I have written about this topic ]. I know we talked about this at lengh at AN when the issue was brought up by one editor about 3 months ago, but it keeps creeping back to us. Should we not have some sort of official policy or guidelines to avoid any problems or false accusations that may develop because of the misperseption of what constitutes ]. There are many consultants, lawyers and other professional editors on Misplaced Pages. Do we just go on a witch hunt and start hanging all of them? This could be a serious problem unless we define some guiddelines as to what is permisable by the community and what is not. Thank you, ] (]) 00:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

: We have ] and ] and ] and ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you for the article links. I am glad we have precedence in this matter, and we do not chase professional people away. Spending countless hours on Misplaced Pages editing just to sell a Misplaced Pages articles is not even a financially viable opportunity. One would make much more money doing other work! One must really love Misplaced Pages to keep staying around, dealing with all this wikidrama, and keep building it for everyone to learn from and enjoy. Thank you, 00:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Hello ==

You have put a completely incorrect interpretation of the RfCU on the article probation page. Unprovoked/RDOlivaw/DrEightyEight are one user, that's old old news. There was no connection made between this user and MC or The Tutor, nor was a connection proven between MC and The Tutor. MC is being vanished, per his own request. The Tutor is not blocked. You should correct this ASAP. &mdash;] (''']''') 00:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

:Please read more carefully. MC was not proven to be TT. The connection has been denied. AGF, and please strike this nonsense. &mdash;] (''']''') 00:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

:You're getting warmer, but you're still in the wrong. Repeating accusations like that is not helpful. &mdash;] (''']''') 00:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

:I really think you are doing the wrong thing here. I wish you would remove your statement until you can ascertain the facts. You are not making a false statement now, but you are imputing bad faith to a real person and to a new editor when no accusations of abusing sock puppet accounts has been proven. I ask you again to strike it or we should seek some kind of dispute resolution. &mdash;] (''']''') 01:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

:I have posted to ]. &mdash;] (''']''') 02:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

:Thank you, that helps. &mdash;] (''']''') 06:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

:Although you do not seem to respect the ArbCom's handling of the prior matter in which you were careless and caused problems, I am hopeful that it will not be necessary for us to return to that forum. I believe this is a serious matter which should be escalated as quickly as necessary to prevent the loss of a valuable new contributor. &mdash;] (''']''') 18:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== User Jupiter Optimus Maximus ==

Just on a hunch, I wonder if you might check out ] (]). He appeared in late February, 2008, about the time Illustrious One was blocked, and shares many characteristics, including a fascination with categories. I'm not entirely convinced they're the same, but the stars are starting to align. ] (]) 01:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== MC ==

Thanks, I got distracted by the ] issue, the block is now in place. ] <small>]</small> 02:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

I invite you to add <nowiki>]</nowiki> on your user page because you are one of the WikiCommonSense editors. If many editors edit in such matter we will be more productive and worry less about vandalism and other disruptive issues at Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 09:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== Jeh akuse ==

I just looked at Jsmith_51389's contribs and compared them to those of Jeh akuse ... you're not the only one who hears quacking. Dunno if a checkuser would do any good ... last time Jsmith edited was in December '07. I have to admit, though, I was ''this''close to deleting the unblock template and locking down his userspace ... the "request" was clearly abusive. ]] 14:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

: ]. It helps to nail down the sock puppetry and scan for sleeper accounts. December 07 may be recent enough. Checkuser will help us deal with future socks more quickly. This piqued my interest because the username is similar to mine. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::Confirmed ... time for a community ban, I think. ]] 19:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

== ] was just nominated for AfD ==

] You may want to comment on it. ] (]) 16:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

: So vote! ] <sup>]</sup> 17:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::I hope the main page does not get nominated next..:) ] (]) 22:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== Chiropractic ==

Hey, I just saw all of at MastCell's talk page. I haven't dipped in to those pages (and won't), but I've worked on four featured articles and multiple other articles with Eubulides, and he is one of our finest, fairest, most knowledgeable and most civil, FWIW. ] (]) 18:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

: Noted. We could use more editors like that. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

== Pseudoscience discretionary sanctions ==

Hi! As somebody who commented on ] to place all articles related to homeopathy on article probation, I would greatly appreciate your input on ] to help combat disruption that would scrap the probation and implement discretionary sanctions. I apologize for any intrusion, but this is to my knowledge the first time sanctions of this nature have been attempted to be enforced by the community, so I feel that a wide range of opinions is necessary. Thank you in advance for any comments you may make. ] (]) 18:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


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