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Question, since you seem to be around tonight. I recently added some information to a new article ] started by a new editor. The article as he started it was very much "anti-bit" POV, and I merely added referenced and sourced information to expand the article, as well as removing a commercial external link. Soon after I finished up, the new editor came in and removed most of what I had added, bringing it back down to what he had written, with some source citations I'd added and one sentence left. I left a note on the talk page and the editors page, but quite honestly I don't usually deal with this sort of behavior. Chance you could take a look at the situation and tell me if I'd be out of line to just revert him or what? We're talking mainstream sources here in what I added, nothing controversial. Mainly an expansion of what the bridles are used for. But his edits leave the article with a distinct (to a horseperson at least) anti-bit feel. Not helped by some talk page comments he made to another editor either. Thanks! ] | ] 01:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:I also wonder if this isn't somewhat tied into promoting something commercial, given the name of the editor's account and the name of the bridle given in the caption. ] | ] 01:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:: Ah, sorry, I'm actually going to be on the road for the next week or two, so my wiki-time will be severely curtailed. I'm on my way to the airport now, but will try to take a look when I'm more stationary. :) --]]] 16:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Events seem to be taking care of the issue, I think. A couple of other horse editors have stepped in. Perhaps some newbie biting is going on, but the newb's biting back so... all is fair or something. So don't let it stress you. I'm off Wed also for Vegas, so I sympathize. ] | ] 16:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


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: Thanks for the heads-up, and I'm glad to hear that others are keeping an eye on it. I'm still going to be traveling off and on for the next week or two, and my wiki-time is severely curtailed. Looks like I'll have lots of !entertaining reading to do when I get back! :) --]]] 18:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


See https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Proudbharati huge number of terrible changes, done in haste. ] ] 11:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Ignore, I CIR blocked. ] ] 12:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi Elonka, I was sent here by ] because I had a dispute about an edit at the ] page ( here is a link to the diff). He deleted a large amount of text that I feel didn't need to be deleted. I explain my stance in the talk page. I already undid his edit, then he redid it, and I dont' want to get into an "undo" war, so if you could help me it would be much appreciated! Thanks!--] (]) 14:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

== In theory... ==

My ISP has fixed my issues. Note I said in theory. Things seem to be working for now... we'll see what happens. ] | ] 21:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks for the kind words ==

I appreciate the kind words. Honestly, I'm just a kid playing with a new toy, ] --<span style="border:1px solid #63B8FF; font-weight:bold; color:#23238E; background-color:#D0E7FF;"> ] <sub> ] ] </sub> </span> 05:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== Sockpuppet hunt ==

<small>(This relates to your question to ])</small>

Howdy,

If you're looking for ], yes he's the creator of the French version of the Boubouleix article. IP 86.207.56.195 also intervened, as well as the 4 IP and users below. No other contributor of significance.

FYI: ], ] and ] are all sockpuppets of one another (+IP 86.207.121.187), but seem to be distinct from G.S. (we ran a Check User on them names, see ]).

Hope this helps! Cheers, ] <sup>]</sup> 10:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:what he said :) ] x 11:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Thanks! :) --]]] 16:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== G. Smith incident ==

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:"My CIA handlers will be pleased". Boubouleix's sock puppet "Lord Hearntown" also alleged you were really Jewish and a Mossad agent on French Misplaced Pages (since blanked). I haven't kept track of PHG's editing history in detail but we found no on-wiki evidence of collaboration between him and Smith, so I have no idea whether he's been inducted into the Warrior Cult of Shambhala, knowingly or unknowingly. This whole episode has been the strangest I have encountered on Misplaced Pages and has left me wondering about the quality of mental health care in France. --] (]) 16:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


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Let me know if you want me to look at the article. I'm certainly not the greatest FAC reveiwer, but I can usually see where something is unclear. Normally I don't do "modern" stuff much, things past the Reformation bore me usually. ] | ] 04:02, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:ah, and I keep forgetting about this resource, you can dig around at ]. ] (]) 04:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'll try to get to it tomorrow. I do most of my reviewing in the morning while my eyes are still fresh and I can face the task of being utterly picky. (grins). ] | ] 04:53, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

:There, later than I hoped (stupid Daylight savings time change always annoys me) but got it done. I put a few questions/concerns/suggestions up on the talk page. Hopefully it helps. ] | ] 01:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== RE: Request for review ==

Thanks for the message Elonka. Arabo-Norman civilization did not exist... and a quick Google search for the term shows the Misplaced Pages article as the only result. It should be speedy redirected to ]... because that is the time period in which Sicily went from been a Muslim country, to once against a Christian country (under the Normans). I'll redirect it myself due to it been a completely invented term. - ] (]) 09:04, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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:By the way, I recently did some tweaking of the ] article. Did you have any comments? --] (]) 10:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Hi, I saw that you'd been working on it, yes. Though I didn't review the edits in detail, because I know that you know what you're talking about, so I trust you to put in good material. :) When I get a chance, I'll go in and look in more detail. The ] project sounds like a good one too, I'll definitely help as I can, though right now my time is a bit crunched. I've been sick with the flu for a couple weeks, and when I do have time (and health) for Misplaced Pages, my attention has mainly been on ]. It's in voting phase now, but even after it's done, there are a ] (some of them Templar-related) that are going to need complex cleanup. I am also trying to get '']'' to FA, and will be submitting it for another Peer Review soon, and probably FA again next week. But if you still need help on Priory of Sion after I get those projects off my plate, yes, I'll definitely help out! :) --]]] 19:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

:: Have you read many French books on the Priory of Sion? ] (]) 22:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

:: "Atbash cipher"? Does that exist in any medieval manuscripts ? ] (]) 22:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

== Dated sub-cats ==

Essentially the templates need to be tweaked, and the sub cats created. There's a few bits of admin too, but that's the crux. I'll have a look at it. ''] ]'', 21:29 ] ] (GMT).
:Basically done. ''] ]'', 22:41 ] ] (GMT).

== Sorkhagtni bekh ==

Dear Elonka and Friends,

I read the secret history of mongols 3 times. Because I am mongol. Although I am a financer, i love medieval history especially mongolian.

I think the right spell for her name is Sorkhagtni but not Sorgaghtni. I think mongols did not use K instead of Kh or H in early times. '''K''' is foreign letter for us. For example, people call some names such as Kublai, Kaidu (or Qaidu)and more. Mongols call them Khubilai and Khaidu in mongolian.

Thank you!

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==longissimam agnoscere veritatis viam==
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:Thanks. The solution for ] and ] is good. ] (]) 18:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

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This Arbitration case is closed and the final decision has been published at the link above. {{user|PHG}} is prohibited from editing articles relating to medieval or ancient history for a period of one year. He is permitted to make suggestions on talk pages, provided that he interacts with other editors in a civil fashion. PHG is reminded that in contributing to Misplaced Pages (including his talkpage contributions, contributions in other subject-matter areas, and contributions after the one-year editing restriction has expired), it is important that all sourced edits must fairly and accurately reflect the content of the cited work taken as a whole. PHG is also reminded that Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project and it is essential that all editors work towards compromise and a neutral point of view in a good-faith fashion. When one editor finds themselves at odds with most other editors on a topic, it can be disruptive to continue repeating the same argument. After suggestions have been properly considered and debated, and possible options considered, if a consensus is clear, the collegial and cooperative thing to do is to acknowledge the consensus, and move on to other debates.

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==User:KellyAna==
Hi, don't want to bother you, but you're an Admin now &mdash; with that and your vast experience (and participation in WP:SOAPS), I'd like your advice on how to deal with ]. I have just hit my limit with her behavior and misguided edits. As you may know, she does not accept criticism or advice, but I am hoping there is an official way to get through to her. Her edit summaries and history and behavior on her own talk page (she ignores or deletes critical comments because they're placed "in the wrong place" on her page) should prove my case alone, but there are also several editors I feel she has terrorized and steamrolled lately and their interaction would also be illuminating. Please advise. &mdash; ]<sup>]</sup> 03:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:Hi Elonka. I have previously warned this user several times for her edit-warring, falsely labelling good-faith edits as vandalism, a technical problem with her user talk page, etc. Because of the idiosyncratic way she 'archives' her user talk, you may want to read the history, from about on to get a picture. Best wishes, and I hope adminship is suiting you. --] (]) 04:40, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::] may also be of interest. --] (]) 04:47, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Thanks Elonka, as always ... I have never felt the need to intervene with an editor like this before, so I appreciate your advice. I of course don't wish to get KellyAna "in trouble" or even blocked, but hope to somehow get her to listen to reason. I do plan to post a detailed comment on her talk page, and amass links to the various recent situations I feel have been a problem (like John's, above). I may even ask you to look it over before I post it, so expect me to get back in touch ;). Thanks again. &mdash; ]<sup>]</sup> 05:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

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CIR issue with editor you warned once for lack of sources

See https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Proudbharati huge number of terrible changes, done in haste. Doug Weller talk 11:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Ignore, I CIR blocked. Doug Weller talk 12:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)