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== ''Bots Newsletter'', December 2021 ==
== Lane Bryant ==


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Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Misplaced Pages's ''Bots Newsletter'', your source for all things ]. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, ''and more'', are brought to you by Misplaced Pages's most distinguished newsletter about bots.


Our ] was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots.
Hi There,


<span style="font-size:125%">'''Overall'''</span><br />
You have deleted our page from Misplaced Pages, we are a market utility and are entitled to coverage.
* Between September and December 2019, there were 33 ]s. Of these, {{yeac}} 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful ({{nayd}} 3 denied, {{idkc}} 3 withdrawn, and ] 2 expired).


<span style="font-size:125%">'''September 2019'''</span>
We accepted that copying and pasting text was not sufficient so the section was amended and now you have blocked it again.
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ], ] · {{idkc}} ], ]
*'''TParis goes away, UTRSBot goes kaput''': ] ] that ] for maintaining on-wiki records of ] appeals stopped working a while ago. ], the semi-retired user who had previously run it, said they were "unlikely to return to actively editing Misplaced Pages", and the bot had been vanquished by trolls submitting bogus UTRS requests on behalf of real blocked users. While ] was a potential fix, neither maintainer had time to implement it. TParis offered to access to the UTRS WMFLabs account to any admin identified with the WMF: "I miss you guys a whole lot but I've also moved on with my life. Good luck, let me know how I can help". Ultimately, ] ended up in charge. Some progress was made, and the bot continued to work another couple months — but as of press time, UTRSBot has not edited since November 2019.
*'''Article-measuring contest resumed''': The ], which had lain dead for several years, was triumphantly resurrected by ] following a ].


<span style="font-size:125%">'''October 2019'''</span>
Please resolve this situation or provide agreeable edited text.
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]
*'''Curb Safe Charmer adopts reFill''': ] ] that ]'s bug reports were going unanswered; creator ] had retired from Misplaced Pages, and a maintainer was needed. As of June 2021, ] had ], saying: "Not that I have all the skills needed but better me than nobody! 'Maintainer' might be too strong a term though. Volunteers welcome!" <br />


<span style="font-size:125%">'''November 2019'''</span>
User: CapitalMarket
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ] · {{idkc}} ]
*'''Old bots do new tricks''': ] prowled redirects, ] archived ] requests, and ] removed links to ] deleted at ] (until its authorization was revoked in January at operator ]'s ]).


<span style="font-size:125%">'''December 2019'''</span>
== Nabari no Ou ==
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ] ·] ], ]
*'''Redirects to be autopatrolled''': A ] at ], closing with unanimous consensus that new ] should be ] by bot. ] wasted no time, and submitted ] the next day; it passed two days after that.
*'''200,000 bios get short descs''': Along a similar vein, ] was approved to remove disambiguation pages from ] and a new bot (]) changed lots of ] links to ] using ]. One particularly neat task, ], automatically generated ] for more than 200,000 biographies.


<span style="font-size:150%">'''In the next issue of ''Bots Newsletter'':'''</span><br />
Coren, the contents of the Nabari no Ou page in Misplaced Pages does not include a substantial copy of: http://www.xanadu-dreams.net/timcampi.html Your bot should take this into consideration.
What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?
*What happens when two bots want to clerk the same page?
*What happens when an adminbot goes hog wild?
*Will reFill ever get fixed?
*What's up with ], anyway?
*Python 3.4 deprecation? In ''my'' PyWikiBot? (It's more likely than you think!)
These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the January 2022 ''Bots Newsletter''. Tune in, or miss out!


] (]) Signing off... ''']'''×''']''' 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
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* ]
I have got premission from the webmaster of http://www.ogara.org/ to use this information as it relates to Monasterdaen ] (]) 15:16, 6 March 2008


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Welcome to the ninth issue of the English Misplaced Pages's ''Bots Newsletter'', your source for all things ]. Vicious bot-on-bot edit warring... superseded tasks... policy proposals... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Misplaced Pages's most distinguished newsletter about bots.


After a long hiatus between August 2019 and December 2021, there's quite a bit of ground to cover. Due to the vastness, I decided in December to split the coverage up into a few installments that covered six months each. Some people thought this was a good idea, since covering an entire year in a single issue would make it unmanageably large. Others thought this was stupid, since they were getting talk page messages about crap from almost three years ago. Ultimately, the question of whether each issue covers six months or a year is only relevant for a couple more of them, and then the problem will be behind us forever.
Your bot is ''still'' not registering the presence of the {{tl|NCI-cancer-dict}} template. Please fix it! -- ] (]) 13:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


Of course, you can also look on the bright side – we are making progress, and this issue will only be about crap from almost ''two'' years ago. Today we will pick up where we left off in December, and go through the first half of 2020.
== SikhiWIki ==


<span style="font-size:150%">'''Overall'''</span><br />
Dear Coren
In the first half of 2020, there were 71 ]s. Of these, {{yeac}} 59 were approved, and 12 were unsuccessful (with {{nayd}} 8 denied, {{idkc}} 2 withdrawn, and ] 2 expired).


<span style="font-size:125%">'''January 2020'''</span>
I am sorry to say that this is my second message regarding the above wiki. SikhiWiki is a ], ] ] on ] and that material at this site is copyleft and GFDL licence.
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* {{yeac}} ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ], ]
*A new ] release dropped support for ], and it was expected that support for ] would be removed in coming updates. ] itself planned to drop Python 2 support in 2022.
*Two new bots dropped in January 2020: ], the successor to ], and ], whose task was to perform a weekly update of four "massive" wikitables for ].
*], an ] operated by ] since 2006, was ] after going berserk on categories that hadn't yet been ]'d.


<span style="font-size:125%">'''February 2020'''</span>
Please can you re-programme your bot to recognise Sikhiwiki as such and stop it marking articles with the template.
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ]
*On February 1, some ] were raised about ] performing "nonsense" edits. Semi-active operator ] (who originally coded the ] of ]) was pinged. Meanwhile, the bot was temporarily <span class="plainlinks"></span> for several hours until the issue was diagnosed and resolved.
*On February 18, ] got into a <span class="plainlinks"></span> with ], and had to be partially-blocked from ].


<span style="font-size:125%">'''March 2020'''</span>
Many thanks, ] (]) 21:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] ·] ]
* In March, a long ] was started at ] by ] about the troubling trend of bots "expiring" without explanation after their owners became inactive. This can happen for a variety of reasons -- ] changes break code, hosting providers' software updates break code, hosting accounts lapse, software changes make bots' edits unnecessary, and policy changes make bots' edits unwanted. The most promising solution seemed to be ] hosting (although it has some problems of its own, like the occasional necessity of refactoring code).
* Some of the twelve bot tasks approved this month were ] (removing blocked users from ]), and ] (removing ''unblocked'' users from ]). ] was approved to refine geographic stub tags. New bots approved this month were ] (to patrol ]), ] (to merge stub tags), and ] (fixing DISPLAYTITLE modifications, DEFAULTSORT errors and broken behavior switches in ]).
<span style="font-size:125%">'''April 2020'''</span>
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ] ·] ]
*A ] on the bot noticeboard, "Re-examination of ListeriaBot", was started by ], who pointed out repeated operation outside the scope of its BRFA (i.e. editing pages in mainspace, and adding ] to others). Some said it was doing good work, and others said it was operating beyond its remit. It was <span class="plainlinks"></span> on April 10; the next day it was unblocked, reblocked from article space, reblocked "for specified non-editing actions", unblocked, and indeffed. The next week, several ] were implemented in its code by Magnus; the bot was allowed to roam free once more on April 18.
*] joined the stable in April, after a BRFA started in December was finally completed. As an adminbot, it was authorized to block ]es belonging to ], public ]s, and ]s. New tasks approved for existing bots included ] (] categories), ] (taking over some tasks from the inactive ]), and ] (updating data at {{tl|Interactive COVID-19 maps}}). Also, ] was approved to scale down non-free ]s — I didn't even know that was a thing.
* A ] at ] was started by ] about whether ] should explicitly specify that bot operators must be responsive to concerns raised on English Misplaced Pages specifically (as opposed to ], ], ], et cetera). Eventually, the policy was amended to its ]:
:<blockquote>Issues and enquiries are typically expected to be handled on the English Misplaced Pages. Pages reachable via ], like a talk page at ] or at ] could also be acceptable External sites like ] or ] (which require separate registration or do not allow for IP comments) and email (which can compromise ]) can supplement on-wiki communication, but do not replace it.</blockquote>


<span style="font-size:125%">'''May 2020'''</span>
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ], ], ] · {{idkc}} ]
*], an impressively meta bot task, was approved this month for maintaining a list of bots running on the English Misplaced Pages. The page, located at ], is updated every 24 hours; it contains a list of all accounts with the bot flag, as well as their operator, edit count, last activity date, last edit date, last logged action date, user groups and block status.
*Other approvals for this month were ] (processing redirects in {{tl|R from scientific name}}), ] (allowing users to schedule bot reminders for themselves), ] (removing blocked/locked users from ]), ] (updating ]), ] (adding <nowiki>{{</nowiki>]|living=no<nowiki>}}</nowiki> to talk pages where their associated article is in a year of death category), and ] (deleting and nominating empty categories).
*General syntax fixing tasks were approved for ], ], ], ], ], and ], as well as ] ], ], and ].
*Seven bots who fell below ] (with neither the bots nor their operators having any edits or logged actions in two years) had their bot flags removed. They were ], ], ], ], ], ], and ].
*On May 12, ] was ].


<span style="font-size:125%">'''June 2020'''</span>
== BJ Orion ==
]
* {{yeac}} ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] · {{nayd}} ] · {{idkc}} ]
*In July 2017, ] made a ] that a section of the ] be devoted to bots and technical issues. In November 2019, ] code was written superseding ]'s tasks on that page, and operator ] was asked to stop them so that the new code could be deployed. After no response to pings, a ] of Legobot for the dashboard was proposed. Some months later, on June 16, Headbomb said: "A full block serves nothing. A partial block solves all current issues Just fucking do it. It's been 3 years now." The next day, however, Legoktm disabled the task, and the dashboard was successfully refactored.
*On June 7, ] blocked ] for ], saying it was "still removing links after request to stop". A couple weeks later, a ] was opened, saying "it is a widely-used and useful bot, but it has one of the longest block logs for any recently-operating bot on Misplaced Pages". While its last BRFA approval was in 2011, its code and functionality had changed dramatically since then, and ] requested that BAG require a new BRFA. Maintainer ] responded that most blocks were from years ago (when it lacked a proper ]), and problems since then had mostly been one-off errors (like a ] in which a ] had "weaponized" the bot to harass editors).
*] opened a discussion about ], and proposed that they not. He cited a recent case in which a maintainer had said "I can only suppose that the code that is available on GitHub is not the actual code that was running on ". Some disagreed: ] said that "I like free software as much as the next person, and I strongly believe that bot operators should make their bot code public, but I don't think it should be that they must do so".
*Two new bots had their first BRFAs approved: ], to replace ] for handling the ], and ], to remove {{tl|user sandbox}} from articles in draftspace using ].


<span style="font-size:150%">'''Conclusion'''</span><br />
Hello Coren,
* What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Bj_orion
:*Will Citation bot ever be set free to roam the project?
The copyright text about the web page was removed.
:*What's the deal with all those book links that ] is adding to articles?
So would you please remove the text you left on the above link ?
:*Should we keep using Gerrit for MediaWiki?
Thank you.
:*What if we had a day for bots to make cosmetic edits?
These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the February 2022 ''Bots Newsletter''. Tune in, or miss out!


(])] (]) 01:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC) Signing off... <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">''']'''×''']'''</span> 23:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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== Block of MM and SH ==

Gutsy call :) You may want to leave a note on the talk page of the RfAr's proposed decision to note your action. Cheers, ] (]) 03:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== g'day coren ==

I saw your post about Mantan et al - and per the above, I also wondered if I could ask you to pop a note onto the relevant talk pages (user and RfAr maybe?) - really just echoing what you've already said at the noticeboard... it actually really helps in keeping the temperature down at a difficult time! - thanks for thinking about it, and best regards - ] (]) 03:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:I need to go to sleep, so for a few hours my note on AN will have to do&mdash; but I'll certainly keep an eye on both as soon as I return to conciousness. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 03:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

::sleep well! - (if you do take two sec.s to drop a talk note before dropping off, that would be cool, otherwise upon return will have to do!) - cheers, ] (]) 03:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

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*There isn't a barnstar big enough. Put your seatbelt on... ] (]) 03:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== I hereby present you with ... ==

] ... These ], renowned in China and wherever Chinese products are sold, in grateful recognition of your recent block. ''Baoding balls are a tool for injury recovery or as an exercise tool to improve manual dexterity and strength,'' according to the Misplaced Pages article I stole this pic from. I expect you'll be typing more for a little while after this block, and therefore these might come in handy. Although somehow I get the impression you have a pair already, they do get banged up with frequent use, so please consider these replacement brass balls. ] (]) 04:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

]
I'll go one better. ~ ] 11:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Request for clarification ==

Please comment at ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

Back in January you closed ] as merge all articles. Since then the article ] has been reverted to its former state despite there being pretty much no change from its pre merged form (see for a direct comparison). I do not think any of the original issues have been addressed, the article presents no ] independent secondary sources, it is full of ] and it does not meet the general ]. On top of that the article ] is relatively short (13Kb) and the (proposed) ] clearly says that articles on non-notable topics should be split of for ]. No effort was made by interested parties to develop the list into which the character information was ] (]) and I think that reverting the article as it was goes against ]. I have in the past tried to discuss the issue with opposing users but I feel that we have come no closer to an agreement through it. As closer of the original AfD I was wondering what your thoughts on the matter were. ] (]) 18:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

== Hi! ==

About the tag on ], it's in that page ''from'' Misplaced Pages. Regards.--] (]) 15:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


== CBRT (TV) ==


== The Dark Nebula ==
hi i just moved the article CBRT to ] and made the original ] as Disambiguation, i received an auto message from CorenSearchBot telling me that the article is duplicated (when i was working on it)and asked me to "drop a note" about it here.--{{User:Mjkubba/sig}} 22:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I tried to place this entry on Misplaced Pages some years ago & was cited as plagiarising an entry on comixpedia. That listing was indeed by me so i was not copying that post but, instead, reposting on Misplaced Pages, unaware that was not appropriate. I am attempting to post this on Misplaced Pages again & would like to know what is required to be removed or altered so that it would indeed be complying with the rules. I'm 62 years of age & not as tech-savvy as i would otherwise like to be.
== Zedla RfA ==


I should point out that comixpedia is no longer what it was. In fact, if you click on the link for Comixpedia or more specifically the entry regarding The Dark Nebula it is all an Indonesian Gaming/Gambling site, nothing to do with The Dark Nebula or Comics in any way, shape or form.
Sorry for the delay, just want to say a quick thank you for your support and participation in my ] which passed & closed earlier this week. &ndash; ] (]) 03:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


To be clear the substance of the proposed entry originated from me, including images. I hope a resolution can be reached.
== MTP-II_MATER ==


I leave this in your hands.
may i ask to remove the deletion flag from the article ]. this text is the description of a 10 year old eu-project, which was copied to various web pages of all partners and which is not copyright protected at all. thank you ] (]) 09:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


Thank you
== ] and ] ==
] (]) 08:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


== Ten years later ==
The similarity existed for a few seconds while i was moving articles of two relatives who share relatively the same name, so I removed the similarity tag.
] (]) 10:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


Hi Coren,
==Please undo it now==


I resolved when I became an admin that I'd swing by here the first time I had a block overturned, even if you were inactive; and after 6 months and 1,421 blocks that's finally happened, sadly, so here I am. You probably don't remember me, but ten years and two usernames ago (''Francophonie&Androphilie'', kinda cringe name) you indeffed me and then reversed yourself after objections at AN/I. I expected I'd have something to say, when this day did come, about what I've learned from having a block overturned, but really all I can say is that it's unpleasant—both getting it wrong and being told you got it wrong—which is no great insight. But I guess I thought it might please (or at least amuse) you to know I stuck around and am an admin now; and also thought I'd take this as an opportunity to say hi and ask how you've been doing. Maybe you won't see this for a year or won't see it ever, but can't hurt to ask.
Please unblock him immediately. ] | ] 19:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:As I said on the AN/I, I will do so with swiftness if he just agrees to not use the tools until this is cleared up. I will state so on his talk page as well. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 19:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


<span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- ]</span><sup>]'']</sup> (she&#124;they&#124;xe)</span> 22:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
I see someone else has already done it. Take my advice will you. Blocking an established user is a serious matter and should be done only as a last resort and with due care and consideration. Blocking hastily is itself an abuse of admin power. Note that being blocked does not stop an admin using the admin tools! ] | ] 19:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
== Nomination for deletion of ] ==
:No, but it makes it an immediately unsysopable offense. However, I ''strongly'' diagree that my block was over hasty - there should be no wiggling room or allowance for using the tools in a content dispute. At all. Ever, and with no exceptions. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
]] has been ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> – ] (]) 15:36, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
::The are several admins on the noticeboard who disagree. You have to work ''with'' the community. ] | ] 20:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
== Nomination for deletion of ] ==
:::Sure, admins who agree with the point Arthur was trying to make. I stand by my block as appropriate, backed up by policy ''and'' common sense, and will defend it if my involvement is put in question. I don't beleive that's required at this time; the community does indeed appear to have decided an unblock was appropriate and I will respect that ''as well''. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
]] has been ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> – ] (]) 16:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
''here should be no wiggling room or allowance for using the tools in a content dispute''—I've never known it to be a blockable offense, however! ] 20:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:I can think of no behavior more destructive to the encyclopedia. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::Don't be so bloody pompous! That block stays in his block log for ever. His error will always be with him. Your's you can lose. Think on that. ] | ] 20:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::You are making three presumptions which are not borne out by facts. (a) His block message prejudges his behavior (I was careful to write it so that it would not) (b) His error *should* be ignored and (c) I have made one of comparable magnitude or severity. If it makes you feel any better, I will gladly archive this exchange and keep a handy link to it so that anyone who wishes to scrutinize my actions has no trouble finding it. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::No need for that.I just want you take more care over your blocks. Note that I don't think his error should be ignored. I do however think it should be delt with by talking rather than blocking. There was no urgency here. You could have taken the matter to AN/I first then blocked if others agreed. ] | ] 20:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, I was not involved in the dispute, so I was able to look at it from an outsider's eye. What I saw was (a) apparent abuse of deletion in a content dispute, (b) continuing dispute and (c) threats to continue using admin tools (blocking) in that dispute. Acting to stop further action immediately, and bringing the matter swiftly to AN/I seemed to me to be the most straightforward and obvious reaction. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't think that tense tone is helpful, Theresa. Anyway, we all know my wins! ] 20:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::I'm just saying that we all see the occasional use of admin tools in content disputes (say, once or twice a month), and usually it just gets reversed fast, but does not result in a block. I'm only describing what the conventions strike me as. You're fairly new admin, right? ] 20:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::You do know that blocking yourself is an abuse of admin tools! I've a good mind to punish you for having such a long block log ( Hmm what can I do?) To Coren, sorry about my tone earlier. ] | ] 20:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I'm not good. :/ ] 20:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::No worries. I knew what I was about to do would rock emotions, and I was ready for the heat. The Right Thing (and let's agree that while you may not have agreed, my position is entirely reasonable shall we?) is rarely the Popular Thing. Anyways, I don't hold grudges, and even if I did it would take much more than an understandably curt tone to make me dream of revenge and vendettas. :-) &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Fun fact: for instance, I'm pretty sure I once was in a dispute with El_C, but for the life of my I couldn't even tell you what it might have been about. :-) &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 20:32, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh? It's not coming to me. I don't think you blocked me! Anyway, I've seen my shares of disasters strike when one's Good Thing turn out to be other's Bad Thing, or tang, even... That's why, I feel, that more-often-than-not, discussion is key. ] 20:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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Bots Newsletter, December 2021

Bots Newsletter, December 2021
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BRFA activity by month

Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Misplaced Pages's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Misplaced Pages's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

Our last issue was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots.

Overall

  • Between September and December 2019, there were 33 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful (Dark red X symbolN2 3 denied, Blue question mark? 3 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

September 2019

Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive... It's alive, it's moving, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, IT'S ALIVE!
  • Green checkmarkY Monkbot 16, DannyS712 bot 60, Ahechtbot 6, PearBOT 3, Qbugbot 3 · Dark red X symbolN2 DannyS712 bot 5, PkbwcgsBot 24 · Blue question mark? DannyS712 bot 61, TheSandBot 4
  • TParis goes away, UTRSBot goes kaput: Beeblebrox noted that the bot for maintaining on-wiki records of UTRS appeals stopped working a while ago. TParis, the semi-retired user who had previously run it, said they were "unlikely to return to actively editing Misplaced Pages", and the bot had been vanquished by trolls submitting bogus UTRS requests on behalf of real blocked users. While OAuth was a potential fix, neither maintainer had time to implement it. TParis offered to access to the UTRS WMFLabs account to any admin identified with the WMF: "I miss you guys a whole lot but I've also moved on with my life. Good luck, let me know how I can help". Ultimately, SQL ended up in charge. Some progress was made, and the bot continued to work another couple months — but as of press time, UTRSBot has not edited since November 2019.
  • Article-measuring contest resumed: The list of Wikipedians by article count, which had lain dead for several years, was triumphantly resurrected by GreenC following a bot request.

October 2019

November 2019

Now you're thinking with portals.

December 2019

In the next issue of Bots Newsletter:
What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?

  • What happens when two bots want to clerk the same page?
  • What happens when an adminbot goes hog wild?
  • Will reFill ever get fixed?
  • What's up with ListeriaBot, anyway?
  • Python 3.4 deprecation? In my PyWikiBot? (It's more likely than you think!)

These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the January 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out!

Signing off... jp×g 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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Bots Newsletter, January 2022

Bots Newsletter, January 2022
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Welcome to the ninth issue of the English Misplaced Pages's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Vicious bot-on-bot edit warring... superseded tasks... policy proposals... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Misplaced Pages's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

After a long hiatus between August 2019 and December 2021, there's quite a bit of ground to cover. Due to the vastness, I decided in December to split the coverage up into a few installments that covered six months each. Some people thought this was a good idea, since covering an entire year in a single issue would make it unmanageably large. Others thought this was stupid, since they were getting talk page messages about crap from almost three years ago. Ultimately, the question of whether each issue covers six months or a year is only relevant for a couple more of them, and then the problem will be behind us forever.

Of course, you can also look on the bright side – we are making progress, and this issue will only be about crap from almost two years ago. Today we will pick up where we left off in December, and go through the first half of 2020.

Overall
In the first half of 2020, there were 71 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 59 were approved, and 12 were unsuccessful (with Dark red X symbolN2 8 denied, Blue question mark? 2 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

January 2020

A pythonA pythonA python0.4 pythonsYeah, you're not gonna be able to get away with this anymore.

February 2020

Speaking of WikiProject Molecular Biology, Listeria went wild in February

March 2020

April 2020

Listeria being examined

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May 2020

We heard you like bots, so we made a bot that reports the status of your bots, so now you can use bots while you use bots

June 2020

A partial block averted at the eleventh hour for the robot that makes Legos

Conclusion

  • What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?
  • Will Citation bot ever be set free to roam the project?
  • What's the deal with all those book links that InternetArchiveBot is adding to articles?
  • Should we keep using Gerrit for MediaWiki?
  • What if we had a day for bots to make cosmetic edits?

These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the February 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out!

Signing off... jp×g 23:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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The Dark Nebula

Hi, I tried to place this entry on Misplaced Pages some years ago & was cited as plagiarising an entry on comixpedia. That listing was indeed by me so i was not copying that post but, instead, reposting on Misplaced Pages, unaware that was not appropriate. I am attempting to post this on Misplaced Pages again & would like to know what is required to be removed or altered so that it would indeed be complying with the rules. I'm 62 years of age & not as tech-savvy as i would otherwise like to be.

I should point out that comixpedia is no longer what it was. In fact, if you click on the link for Comixpedia or more specifically the entry regarding The Dark Nebula it is all an Indonesian Gaming/Gambling site, nothing to do with The Dark Nebula or Comics in any way, shape or form.

To be clear the substance of the proposed entry originated from me, including images. I hope a resolution can be reached.

I leave this in your hands.

Thank you The Dark Nebula (talk) 08:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Ten years later

Hi Coren,

I resolved when I became an admin that I'd swing by here the first time I had a block overturned, even if you were inactive; and after 6 months and 1,421 blocks that's finally happened, sadly, so here I am. You probably don't remember me, but ten years and two usernames ago (Francophonie&Androphilie, kinda cringe name) you indeffed me and then reversed yourself after objections at AN/I. I expected I'd have something to say, when this day did come, about what I've learned from having a block overturned, but really all I can say is that it's unpleasant—both getting it wrong and being told you got it wrong—which is no great insight. But I guess I thought it might please (or at least amuse) you to know I stuck around and am an admin now; and also thought I'd take this as an opportunity to say hi and ask how you've been doing. Maybe you won't see this for a year or won't see it ever, but can't hurt to ask.

-- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 22:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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