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| Sorry, but I think we might both have been working simulataneously on images of Fd's. These articles really need a biophysicist. Best,--] (]) 19:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Glycoside hydrolase == | |||
| Обратил внимание на появление статьи ]. Есть ли планы написать статьи по всей сотне семейств гликозидаз? --] (]) 13:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :If you want, I can send you wikified Pfam and Interpro files (or their parts), so it would not be difficult to create such articles about other families of glycosidases (I think there are around 40 of them in InterPro/Pfam). Are you interested in any specific protein families? No, I do not have plans to make myself these articles any time soon.] (]) 19:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :: У меня периодически возникало желание написать статьи про некоторые семейства в русской википедии, но пока я ограничивался лишь статьями про конкретные активности. А вообще мой взгляд на проблему неплохо отображает ]. А Вы как-то с этим связаны по работе? --] (]) 08:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::No, I am not doing anything with glycosidases. What protein families are you interested in? If you want to be involved here, I can make stubs, and you would develop them further. But that would be English wikipedia.] (]) 18:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Меня интересует достаточно большое число семейств, но я в основном пишу в русскую вики. --] (]) 17:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Even in English WP, we have relatively few papers on protein families and individual proteins, partly generated by a bot . I do not think such ''specific'' scientific articles make a lot of sense in Russian WP. Such articles are hardly interesting for general public. All students and specialists know English and can read it here if there is anything to read.] (]) 22:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Bosnian Mujahideen == | |||
| Remember ]? Read Golitsyn. --] (]) 20:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Please stop deleting sourced content just because you do not agree with it, you are violating ].--] (]) 07:02, 20 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Please discuss this matter at the article talk page. As I explained, everything you want to include has been already included in the article and summarized in Introduction. Once again, this discussion is closed. This is not a proper place for content disputes.] (]) 04:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Wow! Now I see what's the problem. You said about yourself that you are "a member of the ]" - . ] (]) 06:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Franco-Mongol alliance== | |||
| Thank you for your support regarding the AfDs related to the ]. A few editors are actually putting a lot of efforts into deleting a lot of the referenced material from the ] page (all from reputable and published sources) in favour of a highly restrictive and dismissive point of view. Your help is appreciated. Best regards. ] (]) 11:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Perhaps there are some problems with your articles. But I believe you can sort this out yourself. There was no need in AfDs.] (]) 04:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ] on ] == | |||
| Your edit summary said the following: | |||
| :''this article is not a biography of a person. Hence BLP rules do not apply. '' | |||
| Please reread ], especially the sentence that says | |||
| :''This policy applies equally to biographies of living persons and to biographical material about living persons in other articles'' | |||
| Fact of the matter is, Felix Bloch is still alive. Thus, BLP applies to every mention of him in the encyclopedia. | |||
| You also said: | |||
| :''The statement is completely supported by the cited source.'' | |||
| I do not disagree with that. However, take a look at what the statement actually says: | |||
| :''Felix Bloch, U.S. State Department economic officer in Vienna (1981) '''probably''' blackmailed by Soviets into supplying information; not prosecuted '''quite likely''' because Robert Hanssen warned the Soviets about the investigation into his activities.'' | |||
| That is not ''nearly'' enough to include him on a "list of Soviet agents". If it were a "list of people who may have been Soviet agents", then it might be a different story, but there have never been any official charges or any admission by any parties that he was an agent. His inclusion in this list makes the ''de facto'' claim that he ''was'' a spy, which the sources ''do not'' support. | |||
| This is a serious BLP concern. I am removing him from the list again per this concern. Unless sources can be found to incontrovertibly establish that he ''was'' in fact a spy, he cannot be in a "list of Soviet agents". | |||
| If you have any questions, let me know. Cheers! - ] 13:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :This is encyclopedia. If he qualifies as an agent or not should be established by reliable secondary encyclopedic sources, not by courts or FBI. I am not sure if you familiar with his case (and his BLP article is in poor shape). This case has been described in a book "Spy handler" by former KGB officer Cherkashin. Bloch repeatedly received phone calls from KGB "illegals" who warned him that FBI is watching for him. So, I think he qualifies as a Soviet "agent" by WP standards. So, I will try to improve his BLP article at some point.] (]) 17:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::If there is a source which ''definitively establishes'' that he was an agent, then yes, he can be included in that list. Otherwise, no he can't. WP is an encyclopedia, but BLP exists because of legal concerns, which are tantamount. - ] 17:31, 20 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::O'K I checked the book by Cherkashin and modified his BLP and the list accordingly. The book leaves no doubts that he was actually a spy, although I am not very good in understanding those spy stories.] (]) 00:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Warning Regarding Repeated Violations of WP:BLP (this discussion is closed)== | |||
| You need to read ] which states: | |||
| "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be '''removed immediately and without discussion''' from Misplaced Pages articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space." | |||
| Contrary to your assertions on my talk page, it does not mater that there is no article on Fr. Victor Potapov in Misplaced Pages, nor does it matter that he made these comments on a talk page. The fact that he made accusations which allegedly are based on a book also does change the situation. If the book even makes the accusations he claims, the book does satisfy the "extraordinary claims" requirement in the verifiability section of Wikipolicy. Anyone can write a book and make an accusation, but if you are going to call a respected figure at the Voice of America a KGB agent, or a crook, or accuse them of engaging in illegal activities, you had better be able to present more evidence than "some guy named Gennady said...". Your repeated posting of libelous material about living persons is contrary to Misplaced Pages Policy, and it needs to stop. ] (]) 01:16, 24 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ===Text in question=== | |||
| First of all, let me repeat the disputed segment of text ''at a talk page'''. ''This is not something I claim. That was written in a published book.'' | |||
| You claimed that all Preobrazhensky' views are "lunatic fringe" because he suggested that Potapov is a KGB agent. I have checked a recent book by son of ] who knew Potapov. It follows from the source that Potapov is not only a KGB agent, but a criminal ]. The book tells that Potapov was engaged in a private "marriage business" of finding young Russian brides for wealthy Americans. Surprisingly, the wealthy Americans have died soon after the marriages. It follows that ] was one of Potapov's victims: he died soon after all his estate was transferred personally to Potapov and to the second Schevchenko wife. This second Shevchenko' wife was found by Potapov, and she was indeed a KGB agent, acording to the book. Perhaphs all other women ("chekist lastochkas") supplied by Potapov were also from the same "kontora". The book: Gennady Shevchenko, ''Escape from the Ministry of the Foreign Affairs'', . see Pages 284-292; 314-339. | |||
| ===Assessment of the source as highly reliable === | |||
| This book is not self-published. It is published by a respected publishing organization, «Центрполиграф». It is sold in a large number of copies. It is writted by a person who holds PhD degree, author of 70 published scientific papers, and a former high-rank ''diplomate'' of his country. He writes about life of his own farther, ]. That is something he knows very well. Of course he might be wrong as any other source. That is why WP rules tell us: "verifiability, not truth". I have no idea if he right or wrong. I only cite the source.] (]) 04:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::So... just to be clear here... you are asserting that Gennady Shevchenko accuses Fr. Victor of being a KGB agent, all the while working for the Voice of America and actively campaigning against religious persecution in the Soviet Union, and that he was engaged in criminal activity, and was an accessory to murder, and embezzlement. Now if I am able to verify that this book does not assert these things, would you accept without disputation a permanent ban from wikipedia as a punishment for your misrepresentation of this source? Also, it should be noted that mentions Fr. Victor, but without any negative connotations. ] (]) 15:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::'No, Shevchenko did not tell "Potapov was a KGB agent". That was suggested by Preobrazhensky and implicitly supported by information in the book by Shevchenko. What I have written was my ''summary'' of the content from Shevchenko book. That was a talk page, not WP main space. I suggest that we stop this discussion immediately because it is completely irrelevant. We do not have any articles yet about Potapov. Sorry, but I have more important things to do.] (]) 16:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Patriarch Alexius II== | |||
| I am giving you both this same message. It think you are making great headway, the article looks much better then it did a couple hours ago. Try to concentrate on adding good content and let me worry about getting the balance and being the bad guy. Keep up the good work, if you two keep going like this your going to finish this article and make it a ]. ] <small>(])</small> 05:32, 26 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I have made a suggestion at ] that I think is workable. It changes the rules a little and should significantly reduce conflict. I would like to invite you to review the proposal and participate in the creation of a great article. It will stop edit warring by restricting work to the talk page in part because reverting another editors comments on the talk page is counter to ]. ] <small>(])</small> 04:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Att == | |||
| Hey can you give your personal opinion on the current discussion on the ]? You seem like an unbiased person and currently other users seem to be absent, including hanzo who seems blocked. Users keep trying to declare the war over, yet they don't adress a specific event for such change. It's turning in a long-winded discussion with Ceasar again. | |||
| cheers - ] (]) 16:17, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I will look at some point, but one should try to minimize the disputes with others. This is like a ] you do not know about. For example, you now have a content dispute with ] and ]. The both users claimed themselves to be ''"paid members of the ]"'' (see and ). The "KGB trolls" userbox was constructed by two other users who are currently banned from WP for ] problems (one of them was ] who together with ] filed a bogus RfC about me). I have no idea if the claims by Miyokan and Alaexis are true, but I assume everything in their favor per ] policy. After all, KGB still exists only in ], being replaced by two successor (FSB and SVR) agencies in Russia. But I would like to minimize my interactions with these users as much as possible and even asked one of them not to follow my edits. Sorry if my help is insufficient.] (]) 21:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Hey, that's some info, all help is welcome. Maybe I've been playing things dumb, all I care about is that I'm not on my own with these guys. I'll try to avoid them in the future - ] (]) 23:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, I understand that. Just looking at my edit history you can see what is going on right now.] (]) 02:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Talbott == | |||
| He Biophys, I think the Tretyakov accusation is fine for the ] article. After thumbing through the book it looks like he spends quite a decent bit of time on the subject - and considering the US government paying this guy, it isn't just hearsay. If I can get to the book again I'll try to get Talbott's reaction to the claims, which I'm pretty sure he denies. ] (]) 17:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes, it would be great to add more material about this and include his reply per WP:NPOV.] (]) 18:28, 30 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Your admission that you strongly believe bombings were work of the Russian government (this discussion is closed)== | |||
| You have admitted that you strongly believe that the bombings were orchestrated by Russia, declaring your bias for all to see , so please cease your deletions/manipulations/hiding away of the counterargument as you are violating ].--] (]) 01:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :So, you just accused me of "manipulations". That is a bad faith accusation. There is ''absolutely nothing'' in the link you provided to justify that I am doing any kind of "manipulations". Your statement is also offensive because you suggest something that I have never said or even thought: that bombings "were work of '''Russia'''". One (me) must be extremely stupid and unfair to blame a ''country'' of something like that. But your statement implies just that. Perhaps that is because you think that Russia and FSB are the same. ] (]) 03:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Obviously "Russia" refers to the government and the FSB/GRU are government institutions. You can try to deny it all you like but the proof is there for all to see - ''Caesar, do you really believe that Russian apartment bombings were not committed by FSB and GRU spetsnaz? That was highly proffesional job and clearly something extremely damaging for the Chechen cause (small Chechnya can not win a war with Russia - everyone understands that). The more you and Miyokan are trying to prove this to be a conspiracy theory, the more it is clear that the involvement of FSB was real.''--] (]) 04:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::First of all, I did not tell that '''Russia''' organized this bombings. ''FSB is not Russia, Patrushev is not Russia, and Russian government is not Russia'' (just like W. Bush is not the USA). Yes, I told: the more you are trying to prove this to be a conspiracy theory, the more it is clear that the involvement of '''FSB''' (not Russia!) was real. O'K, let's consider this as an ordinary crime, and ask all standard questions in such cases. (1) ''Who was caught red-handed at the scene of the crime?'' FSB agents while planting the bomb. FSB agent Romanovich was also caught. (2) ''Who was the beneficiary of the crime?'' Only Putin who was elected. ''Who was the loser?'' The Chechens. (3) ''Who had technical capacities to commit such sophisticated and technically advanced crime?'' Only FSB or GRU sptesnaz. (4) ''Who tried to cover up the traces of the crime?'' FSB did (the arrest of Trepshkin who identified Romanovich). (5) ''Who are alternative suspects''? Gochiyaev who called himself to police to warn about the bombs (so two bombings in Moscow have been prevented). If I was a juror in the court, I would vote that FSB guilt was proven "beyond the reasonable doubt". So what? Everyone has certain POV, which is fine.] (]) 05:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Why are you giving me an original synthesis, the point is that you have admitted that you believe the bombings were the work of the Russian government, thereby you cannot be trusted to create a balanced article so please stop your deletions/manipulations/hiding away of the counteragument.--] (]) 06:47, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :You should read WP rules and recommendations. They tell that ''everyone'' (including you and me) has certain points of views, which is not a problems as long as person follows core WP policies, that is ], ], and ]. I follow all these rules in WP articles. Talk pages are a different matter. Here synthesis is allowed. So, all your accusations ("manipulations", etc.) are completely groundless, So far you did not provide any evidence to support your claims.] (]) 16:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Your edits are the proof, such as your removing all the counterarguments from the lead under the guise of "Restoring deleted "Criticism and support section" per WP:NPOV. Sourcing and NPOVing official investigation part." . I have reinserted the counterarguments that you removed from the lead per ] and don't worry I have left the "criticism and support section".--] (]) 02:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :'''But you provided wrong diff !''' Here it is: . ''Everyone can see that I included all your arguments in "Criticism" section"''. Now ''I suggest that you stop your groundless accusations immediately''. Please use talk page of the article to discuss this. All your further accusations here will be deleted immediately per ].] (]) | |||
| I said you removed the counterarguments '''from the lead'''. You removed the counterarguments from the lead while you left the 'support' arguments there, a clear violation of ] from someone who has declared they believe the "support" theory. Please don't lie, you completely removed the Washington Times quote - ''According to ], "most dismiss the involvement of the Russian government in the apartment bombings as an unsupported conspiracy theory though it has received widespread attention".<ref>{{cite web|author=Paul J. Saunders|publisher=Washington Times|url=http://www.nixoncenter.org/publications/articles/5_09_00Russia.htm|title=Russian Villain or Hero?|accessdate=2008-01-29}}</ref>'' and you changed the sentence from ''have been decribed as a conspiracy theory'' to ''discussed claims by Satter, Litvinenko and others as a "conspiracy theory"''. Furthermore, you repeatedly removed the fact tag from this sentence - "The construction of the bomb was identical to the devices used in other bombings." - this remains unsourced. The apartment bombings were not the sole reason for the invasion of Chechnya, stop inserting false information, it is a fact that the War in Dagestan was also a reason, stop deleting this fact.--] (]) 04:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Fine. Since you reverted me three times here, I will let this stay on my talk page. You said: "Please don't lie". What a language. ] (]) 04:51, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Pfam box== | |||
| Your thoughts would be welcome here... ] Cheers, ] (]) 16:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you. I replied.] (]) 18:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Hi ]. A nice start has been made to include protein domains and families. This initiative has resulted in examples that hopefully encourage users to extend these. As you seem to be involved in a project for the creation of such articles, I would like to indicate a minor format problem. | |||
| Some articles, such as ] or ], contain a Pfam_box showing references and links. | |||
| In this Pfam_box a link to PROSITE is present, however, it does does not show, because the format is in minor case. If the line Prosite = PDOC00598, present in that box would be corrected to PROSITE, the included link would correspond to the template and become visible in WP. | |||
| This has been corrected now in most of the current articles, but I don't know if a large number of new articles may be created by the same (semi-?) automatic procedure? In that way the propagation of this minor problem might simply be prevented. Thanks, I like these articles. ] (]) 15:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Would you like me to send you some program-generated files with semi-preps of protein family articles? The problem you are talking about can be easily fixed I think.] (]) 02:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| I suspect you do not take part in the Russian Wiki, but this may be an exceptional case. A bunch of лубянских сосок are trying again to remove the only article that truly meets all the NPOV requirements. Please vote. (See the tepmplate).] (]) 19:28, 6 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :We have here ] and other similar articles. We can have ] as well. So, any arguments that such article violates WP standards simply "by definition" are wrong. I hope you have a copy of this article to perhaps translate it to English and create it here? Possibly we should do it, especially if it is deleted in Russian wikipedia.] (]) 21:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::I think i shall place it (before it gets destroyed) on the Discussion page of Putin's article, it can be archived or something.] (]) 15:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::If I go there, they will blame you of canvassing the vote. All your steps are traced. They know who we are in real life, and they read emails. Of course both articles in Russian wikipedia about Putin have to be deleted, especially in light of publications like that . This is time of change. To change the team, they have to "cut off all tails" including the arrests of ] who worked for Medvedev-Putin, replacements of many team members, and so on.] (]) 15:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| As a side note, was banned a couple of days ago, and many good users from Baltic States and Romania have recently been notified . Also note and remember you have received in English wikipedia.] (]) 15:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I thought of making a ] page as well, if somebody starts it I will help expand it - ] (]) 23:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::I will think about it.] (]) 01:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::I am more interested in other subjects. However if things go sour, I will go ahead as always. Perhaps a more encylopedic approach would be creating an article like ] to discuss his great "successes" per this review by Nemtsov and Milov . ] (]) 21:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| They just deleted this article in Russian WP, although more people voted to keep. This is sad. It looks like Russian WP is doomed. But everyone is very welcome here. ] (]) 01:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| **Quite frankly what you call "canvassing the vote" is widely practised in the Russian Wiki (by way of simple notification of a pending discussion) and i have never heard of any reprisals because of that. The article has been deleted. But i have archived it on the Discussion page (Russian) and it has already been by and large transferred by other people into the main article (the official reason for the deletion was "Deviation of Opnion" argument -- something quite opaque and recondite i could never really get my head round). Thus, the result at this stage is arguably worse for putinists.] (]) 18:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Funnily enough, when i pointed to the admin who actually deleted it that there is a similar Bush's one, he promised "to look into it" (See on ]. So the Bush-bashers should be trembling.] (]) 18:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Of course they must delete "Criticism of W. Bush" in Russian WP because he is such a good friend of Putin! Also consider this. Bush started war in Iraq. Oil prices jumped, and Putin with his friends got billions. Of course this is not conspiracy but only a stupidity on the part of US administration (someone said: "this is worse than crime; this is a mistake").] (]) 22:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Answer to your question== | |||
| Apropos Starik, I haven't read the piece, nor am i generally interested in fiction. But i can refer you to 2 sources that seem to shed some light (or rather more darkness): and -- both are Dubov's interview (look for the highlighted bits). What he says essentially boils down to: he is the personified idea of statehood and the actual prototype does not really matter as he was personally of no consequence.] (]) 19:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you. So, you do not know. Please note that Russian government requested extradition of Yuli Dubov because he knows and writes too much, just like Litvinenko.] (]) 21:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Obviously, there was a mastermind behind the "1999 plot", and obviously that was not Putin. I thought about Filipp Bobkov . He fits the profile. As Albats said, "Among Bobkov's special talents is a knack for fomenting ethnic and religious conflicts and staging acts of terrorism as pretexts for KGB crack-downs in the name of preserving "order". | |||
| It is through Bobkov's KGB network, and the Most Bank's financial clout, that the "Moscow Narco- Group" was able to become (in Yasmann's words) "a bridge between regions and drug lords in Italy, Romania, Colombia, and Cuba. These former KGB officers thus took control of, and expanded, the drug route from Afghanistan via Chechnya and Russia to Western Europe and the United States. ; and | |||
| . As you probably know, the top FSB brass controls narcotraffic in the country, so Gen. Bulbov and two his colleagues (who were recently poisoned) went too far in their wiretapping efforts.] (]) 21:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| So, Gusinsky was a KGB collaborator in Soviet times . That is why he hired Bobkov. But who was really the boss? This is also very interesting: | |||
| . | |||
| Just a few random sources , , , | |||
| . A BLP article ]? ] (]) 02:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| So, it was he who established ], who supervised transfer of Communist Party money abroad through Col. Veselovsky, who was behind the ], and who was dismissed for poor "wet job" during ]! Nice "Starik". (Генералу Ф. Д. Бобкову не раз приходилось бывать во многих "горячих точках", принимать непосредственное участие в урегулировании конфликтных ситуаций (Тбилиси, Нагорный Карабах, Фергана, Сумгаит, Баку, Алма-Ата, Орджоникидзе, Грозный, Фрунзе (перечень далеко не полный). I also like his private army in Media Most. ] said about him: "I would hire '']'' to provide us security". He was wrong. One can not hire the devil.] (]) 05:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Here he is: | |||
| People called him "brain of the KGB". Russian source: | |||
| версия С.Юшенкова; из его статьи "ПРОЩАЙ, СВОБОДА СЛОВА?" в газете | |||
| : "Демократический выбор" (N 48 (72) 27 ноября 1997 г.): | |||
| : "Некоторые аналитики предполагают, что именно Ф.Бобков разработал | |||
| : операцию по устранению Коржакова с использованием своего рода | |||
| : приманки в виде коробки из-под ксерокса с сотнями тысяч | |||
| : долларов. Лишь немногие журналисты потрудились задать простой | |||
| : вопрос - а зачем нужно было выносить доллары из Белого дома | |||
| : таким примитивным способом? Ведь даже 500 тысяч легко помещаются | |||
| : в средних размеров кейсе. А ответ чрезвычайно прост. Необходимо | |||
| : было, чтобы служба Коржакова "клюнула" на приманку. Итог хорошо | |||
| : известен." ] (]) 06:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ''That'' is something terrible | |||
| ! ] (]) 06:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::*I think you tend to read too much into the fact that such and such was a KGB snitch. In the SU any one of any minor significance (such as a waiter in a restaurant or a doctor) was one, for the system demanded total covert control over everything and every one. In the early 1990s the roles of the same people often changed drastically. Yes, "The Sysytem" (or The Committe, as some refer to it) made a kind of a comeback, but there's plenty of evidence to suggest that this "revanche" had been engineered and planned from the beginning of Perestroika (not necessarily by Gorbachev himself, but definitely by the KGB hardcore such as Kryuchkov). In fact, the latter made an abortive attempt at revanche in August 1991 -- and it could well have succeeded had he been a bit more dicisive (i remember the atmosphere in Moscow on Aug 19 very well - the turnaround happened only after people learnt that Yeltsin was at large and in the White House, and not arrested as was originally planned, as we now know). It did happen any way -- as that is what russian populace requires: a quasi-feudal state with omnipotent oligarchy and disenfranchised hoi polloi (serfs). Russia to-day, in fundamental socio-economic ways, is very much like its early XXth century precursor, the only diffeerence being the elite is not structured on the basis of Law but on the basis of criminal "notions". So i tend to think that Kryuchkov would fit the bill (Starik's). It may be no accident that when putin became the fsb chief, he virtually put him back in the employ as his personal "consultant", and by credible accounts, he was indeed frequently seen in the Lubyanka on Putin's watch there, maybe chatting in the fsb chief's lift, as it is recounted by berezovsky -- to evade eavesdropping.] (]) 19:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::If I understand corectly, August putsch failed because Kruchkov's subordinates refused to follow his orders. Thus he hardly was respected by anyone later. Oh yes, he told to Putin how it is important "to be wise". But I do not know why exactly the KGB special forces and Dzerzhinsky division refused to follow Kruchkov's orders during the coup. I have seen some explanations (including book by Albats), but they do not look convincing. Could you recommend something to read about it? Perhaps some mateials of Ponomarev Comission?] (]) 18:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you. I indeed was shocked looking at the photo of this evil man with ], a husband of ]. So, that is why ] did not want to disclose the list of Bobkov's "trusted contacts" in her book? It seems I still have some patriotic feelings... Perhaps this story supports the idea about "]s". Consider this. Plisetskaya was a daughter of an ]. Her farther was shot; her mother with baby brother spent years in ] and barely survived. Still, she entertained ] thugs, Stalin in Kremlin, and many other Soviet leaders. Of course, that was behind the "iron curtain". But how did she manage to become a friend of Bobkov and Putin?! She claimed that Putin is a great leader in reply to receving a few awards from him. Her brother (cousin?) German has been declared a ] for writing a poem about stampede during Stalin's funeral. What had he written there? "Kogda v Kremle konchautsja vozdi, v pod'ezdax dveri vyshibaut ludi. ... Smelei vpered, svobodnye raby, dostoinye Xodynki i Truby! ... Vpered, vpered istorii tvortsy, vam mostovoi dostanutsja torsy". He was a free man, not a serf while writing the poem. But the price he paid was very high, thanks to the KGB and Bobkov who posed as a "friend" of his sister.] (]) 21:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::There were more than ''11 million of KGB snitches in the USSR'', according to a source. Dubov certainly kept in mind Bobkov. Kruchkov did not serve in Russian army during WWII. "Starik" and Bobkov did. But what difference does it make? This is fiction.] (]) 03:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::*Sorry, i have been away from here for a while. No, it was not the case of alpha men failing to obey kryuchkov's orders. By all the available sources, the story looks pretty much the other way round: kryuchkov never gave the order though it had been awaited. You can read here (the section entitled ЕЛЬЦИН АРЕСТОВАН?). THAT is the biggest mystery of the whole plot, though the explanation is probably very simple -- there was no plot (as many people actually maintain) and everything had been tentatively pre-agreed with Gorbachev and the arrests were not part of the deal. Kryuchkov surely could have done it but that would have meant he was a real conspirator for which he hadn't the balls. Artistes (and i herein include famous athletes as well) in the SU and Russia are not what their counterparts in the West are. That's one of the things ordinary people in the West fail to appreciate. They can only become famous here if they carry out their political duties, which essentially is enobling the political regime of the day and its criminal ways; many of them are downright snitches as well. This is just part of the job discription.] (]) 16:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Thank you. I see. "Альфа" в четыре утра окружает дачку еще не проспавшегося Ельцина в Архангельском. А через час лично товарищ Крючков отзывает ту "Альфу". Was it really the case?] (]) 14:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Thanks== | |||
| Bandurist 04:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Your comment will be appreciated == | |||
| There is a ] going on whether the ] was indeed destroyed. Your comments in this matter will be appreciated. Thanks. --] (]) 16:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Slight correction on the dispute, its not weather the actual Sich (fortress) was destroyed, but weather the ] was destoryed. --] 17:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you both for asking, but I can not help here.] (]) 03:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ===A comment=== | |||
| Thanks, youre doing a great job as well. No I'm not a history student, but I'm actually considering studying it at university next year, or the year after. Yes the copyright stuff was because I was too lazy to provide rationales, it's fixed now. How come you speak Russian? Do you have Russian ancestry or something? Cheers ] (]) 16:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks. I lived in Russia most of my life and only recently came to the United States.] (]) 18:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Soviet POWs == | |||
| Since you replied at a related discussion, perhaps you could comment at ]?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 18:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I looked fast and made a brief comment, but I have to run.] (]) 19:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks. There is a long discussion (] and the section below it) about ] and whether he was imprisoned or not. Could you look into Russian language sources and see if there is any bio or material that could clarify that? --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 18:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::I left my comment here . At least three Russian sources (two of which are certainly reliable) claim about his imprisonment for 10 years as a well-known and indisputavle fact.] (]) 22:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::Piotrus, please feel free to ask me about such translations in the future. I would translate and evaluate reliability of the sources (as time allows), but I do not want to argue with Irpen and some others, since this is simply waste of time. They bring unreliable Soviet/Russian propaganda sources (such as writings by Krivosheev) and dismiss all reliable secondary Western sources as outdated (e.g. books by ] in ] article). That is why a majority of Russian history articles in WP are Soviet propaganda or total mess, and they will remain such forever. Happy editing, ] (]) 16:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| ArbCom are voting to apply discretionary sanctions across EE articles. ] (]) 21:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == litvinenko assass == | |||
| In the documentary that I linked you to on the apartment bombing page they speak about the assassination of litvinenko as well. I looked on the wikipedia page for litvinenko and I wondered why theres no information about the fact that radiation followed the main suspect around everywhere up to Russia. I don't know much about the case though, just noting it. ] (]) 23:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Right. This should be mentioned in the introduction and later. You are welcome to improve this article. As about your other questions... That massacre is well known, although I am not sure about the exact place. This needs to be better sourced. Both links are not quite reliable, although I would not dismiss them completly. I can find better sources in a couple weeks (too busy now). That place in the image is near the village of Dombay, first place I ever came to the mountains. Since then, I did a lot of hiking and mountaineering trips, some of them at Western and Central Caucasus - from Bezengi Wall to Krasnaya Polyana. However I have never been in Chechnya - not a good place for tourists (my friends had some trouble there).] (]) 00:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Discussion on TonB-dependent receptors == | |||
| Don't you just hate when a protein doesn't get recognition for itself, but for the fact that it works with some other protein that was found first? I know I do....anyways, I've opened up a ] for discussion since you disputed my merge of the ] and ] articles. I'd appreciate getting your input. Thanks! ] (]) 19:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you! I replied. May be I will try to improve this article in a couple of weeks.] (]) 19:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| {{Delrev|Controversy over Kosovo independence}} --] (]) 16:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: ] == | |||
| Thanks for pointing this out to me. The protection had slipped my mind; of course, the danger of further BLP violations is greatly reduced now that significant time has passed. I have dropped the article back to semi-protection, which should automatically expire in about 2 months (though I hope to remember to check back before then and remove it if all is okay). - ] 08:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you. I will try to improve this article a little and put it on my watch list.] (]) 14:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Ronald Reagan edits== | |||
| I wanted to drop you a private line (as much as posting to a user talk page is "private") to point out that I think you are misunderstanding primary sources for citation versus secondary sources. While the wiki-policy governing this can be found ], the nutshell of the point is that you and I cannot cite outselves, as we are primary sources of information: I saw that band, I saw the car accident, I ate the last piece of pie. Secondary sources are of the observational (the band was seen) or notable (I am ''in'' the band). Anything that can be reliably, notably (observationally and) neutrally cited is a secondary source. As Gorby was able to be a part of the process that has since been discussed in books, he is notable because he was a part of those events. He is more notable than us, and therefore on equal (if not superior) footing with those who wrote about events that he personally participated.<br> | |||
| I wanted to point out the mistake you were making here, so as not to embarrass you in the article discussion. If you have any questions about other wiki policies, please do not hesitate to ask. We are all in this together. :) - ] ] 02:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :What are you taking about? I made around 12,000 edits here, and I know about ]. What I told at the article talk page was ''not my opinion'' at all. That was a ''summary'' of certain points made by ] in his book (I provided some exact pages and can provide more). We usually do not cite directly the sources but provide summaries. This is all as usual. As about "Gorbi" (if he is relevant in Reagan article at all), he is ''a primary source about himself'', however notable he is.] (]) 02:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Sure thing == | |||
| Sure thing. Your Russian background should really help your case on those issues. My advice to you would be to take it slowly: I looked over your edit on ], and keeping in mind that the other user reverted it because he called it "conspiracy theories", I've come to the conclusion that your best bet is to get rid of the second half of the paragraph, leaving: "The fairness of the election, however, is disputed, with the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) boycotting the election because "the Kremlin refused to give its observers visas"" The other is probably best left to the specific section as not to start a firestorm, and I would add it in there. Seeing as the "Election fairness" section is quite lengthy, your revison is in line with ], which recommends mentioning one thing from every section in the lead. Hope that helps, and thanks for your help with the ] article! Best, ] (]) 04:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| PS - I'd check out some other articles that aren't watched constantly, like ] or some of it's sub-articles. That way, you can usually add material that goes unchallenged (and it seems like you are the kind of the guy that is truthful). --Hap | |||
| :Thank you for advice!] (]) 04:52, 18 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Sure thing! Also, as the Reagan debate seems to be winding down, and we will (hopefully) be inserting content into the article soon, it is probably best if you start finding the exact page numbers in Gaider's book for everything we are citing it for. And doing so will also strengthen your arguments. Great job so far, ] (]) 05:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Here it is. 1. ] ''Collapse of an Empire: Lessons for Modern Russia'', Brookings Institution Press (October 17, 2007), ISBN 0-815-73114-0, Chapters 4.7 and 4.8. I suggest to cite pages 190-205 in Russian edition (ISBN 5-8243-0759-8). This is about all economic and political statements I cited. | |||
| 2. ] ''Victory: The Reagan Administration's Secret Strategy That Hastened the Collapse of the Soviet Union'', 1994 (ISBN 0-87113-567-1). This is about agreement of Reagan with Saudis.] (]) 16:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Great, I copied them over to the Reagan discussion page, where I have proposed yet another version. Thanks for all your help! ] (]) 23:03, 18 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Stalking == | |||
| Stop ]. From the ] article to the ] article to the ] to ]. What is your angle - do you want to start a war?--] (]) 01:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you for coming here to talk. Unfortunately we have a significant overlap of interests because we are both Russians - I mean the culture and the country of origin. All my non-science contributions in WP were about Russia-related subjects. I am also interested in US-Russia relations since I currently live in the US. But if you want to minimize our interaction, we can do that. I am mostly interested in subjects related to Russian/Soviet secret services, propaganda, and political repressions (and now would like also to contribute a little to Cold War subjects). If you and your friends (those who you recently sided with - the "barnstars", etc.) will not "interfere" with me on those subjects, I would also not "interfere" with your and their edits on any other subjects. "Not interfering" means not making any edits that you or me would object. Talking at the article talk pages or making non-controversial edits, which do not cause objections, are always welcome. Also, I will not edit any new articles that you and your friends would create, and vice versa. Is that acceptable?] (]) 04:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::We both know that you didn't just suddenly decide to check the ] or ] articles. I don't see how the ], ], and ] articles relate to "Russian/Soviet secret services, propaganda, and political repressions". I cannot control my alleged "friends", we do not collaborate together. Also, you have your own "friends", (Pieter, Doopdoop, Happyme22). I generally do not interfere in your edits but lately you have been interfering in almost every one of my edits, now spreading to the ] which is my main area of interest here and which I have invested a lot of effort in and completely overhauled. You do not see me on the ] or ] articles, they do not interest me much, but if you want to continue antagonizing me I can come back there and then some.--] (]) 05:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| So, you do not want my good will offer? Your threat is understood. BTW, have you seen this nice video on youtube about Medvedev as "Shurik": . I really enjoyed it.] (]) 05:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC) Fine, I can limit myself to talk page in article ] if that is what you want.] (]) 05:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes, very clever.--] (]) 08:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :, you just can't help yourself can you? I suppose it's beneficial for you to protect your "friends".--] (]) 08:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Your stalking accusations are unwarranted. I did not make a single edit in aricle ], and I edited previously many articles about ] and Cossacks, including ]. A lot of things in this war and Cossack history are related to repressions in Russia/USSR.] (]) 21:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::The evidence speaks for itself. You showed up out of the blue on the talk page of the Ronald Reagan page where I was involved in a dispute. Your edits on the article came right after I edited them and usually consisted of reverting me. From the ] article to the ] article to the ] to ]. You showed up out of the blue immediately after I edited these articles, articles that you had either never even edited before or had not edited very long time.--] (]) 07:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::'''There is no any evidence'''. Anyone can check that I made '''zero''' edits in article ]. At the article talk page, I made a few comments mostly about this article content, which is '''not''' ].] (]) 16:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I think Miyokan should relax, as I explained it to him at his talk a couple of days ago. I am sure Biophys does not have time to do all the work he wants on the articles he already chose, let alone look for other people's articles. If he occasionally follows Miyokan, it is best to not make a big deal out of it. --] 08:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Thank you.] (]) 16:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::The real question is whether the editor is being followed to cause him annoyance (not allowed even if the edits of the stalker actually improve wikipedia), to make a WP:POINTy edit (never allowed), to correct problems due to the editor being a problematic one (eg. chronic copyvio uploader) (encouraged activity) or to satisfy one's curiosity (may be OK if not very persistent and kept in check). | |||
| :::::::For example, now one of my dedicated fans follows all my contribs to RfAdm and votes the opposite way "for spite". This obviously not only demonstrates a deliberate intention to annoy but also compromises the integrity of RfAdm (I hope when my faithful shadow reads this, s/he won't even try to go 'round complaining about ABF). This is indeed ridiculous and I feel sorry for the guy/girl. | |||
| :::::::Anyway, I have no problem with being checked with a good heart and my thoughts are full of condolences to the rest of my stalkers for their pity life with no family, friends, love or any joyful activity. I don't think any of that applies here. That said, Biophys may, as a gesture, be a little more forthcoming to Miyokan about his intentions, if Miyokan doubts them. --] 00:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Then you would probably agree that participating in article ''talk pages'' to discuss articles content is ''not'' wikistalking? Of course everyone knows very well what everyone else edits - that is why we all have edit histories. I am ready to be more forthcoming as you recommend. In fact I stopped editing anything at all at articles ], ], and Russian Presidential elections, 2008, which were frequently edited by Miyokan and two his recent allies with less than 500 edits. If you can convince Miyokan to do the same with respect to articles I frequently edited - that would be very helpful. So far he is not forthcoming (you know what I am talking about). If both sides do not show good will, this is not going to work.] (]) 01:01, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I'd just like to point out that Biophy stalked me to a page that he's never edited in before as well, ], with the sole intent to revert my changes without justified cause (falsely accusing me of POV..). This was following a few minor disputes in other articles in which we were both editing. ] (]) 17:16, 22 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| WP:STALK refers to disruptive editing only. Edits made by Biophys are constructive and so WP:STALK does not apply. --] (]) 17:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| *] also refers to ] edits and we all know that many edits of Biophys are indeed tendentious. I do not think that on that stage there is any case for the administrative actions but I would advise all the sides to be cautious. It is very tempting if you have a conflict with a point of view of an editor to look into the history of his or her contributions and counter the POV. It is a sure way to elevate a small manageable conflict into something big, disruptive and requiring an administrative or arbcom attention. Please avoid this ] (]) 01:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::It seems to me that most of the edits (and I haven't seen them all) by Biophys are not tendentious. While these edits sometimes add a POV, this POV is supported by many Western sources. Because NPOV policy requires that where multiple or conflicting perspectives exist within a topic each should be presented fairly, it follows that edits made by Biophys improve the article by adding a missing POV that is required for NPOV presentation. --] (]) 02:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::Let's stop this discussion as too ]. First, Miokan comes and blames me of wikistalking without any serious proofs. Then Alex accuses me of tendentious editing, again without any proof. But this is not an appropriate place to discuss accusations and provide proofs. Thank you all for your participation and advice.] (]) 02:18, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :But you don't deny stalking me then? Great. | |||
| :You can make tendentious edits while still providing sources, which is exactly what Biophys does. His edits all pertain to the exact same thing; trying to make Russia and its leadership look like terrible heartless baby eating criminals. The majority of his edits revolve around ''opinions'' and ''unproven accusations''. | |||
| :*find an opinion or accusation against Russia | |||
| :*post it and say "LOL LOOK A SOURCE!" | |||
| :*repeat" | |||
| :Is that type of editing really helpful to wikipedia? In my opinion, no. In my opinion, it's nothing but the blatant spreading of propaganda. ] (]) 19:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::So, you accuses me of propaganda "against Russia". To the contrary, I like Russian culture, and I am interested in Russian history and politics. But I mostly edit articles about human rights in Russia, Soviet secret services, terorism and some related subjects. Those things are not pretty. Hence your impression. But your impression is wrong. I usually use best secondary sources on these subjects, like books by notable historians.] (]) 17:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| And I notice you and Miyokan try to portray Russia and its leadership as the best country in the world. All these allegations are false, his edits are fine and he's often willing to compromise. ] (]) 20:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Please stop. This discussion here is pointless.] (]) 20:16, 23 March 2008 (UTC), except this . ] (]) 17:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Could you find out...== | |||
| See ]. I couldn't find an answer on the English Internet. PS. Through I did not think to save the exact refs when I was writing the articles, some stuff (available on Google Books) noted that the issue of Soviet war crimes in Germany is yet another area which was distorted by Soviet historiography (although to be fair, such topics are commonly distorted by all national historiographies). --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 04:52, 20 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I did not really know about this poem and could not find it so far. , ... will try to find.] (]) 05:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::See my reply at the article talk page. ] (]) 19:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == from ZASDCXZ == | |||
| === THANK YOU Happy Easter, PASSOVER Thank you for patience with my mistakes zasdcxz=== | |||
| :Thank you too.] (]) 19:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I just looked through a few interesting articles in Russian wikipedia: | |||
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| :]...] (]) 04:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :]] (]) 22:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Amusing but surprising ? == | |||
| Remember the quotes in Russian Election article, by Andreas Gross from PACE ? Amusing that non-Russia newspaper gives a different quote.--] (]) 00:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Both articles about Russian elections-2008 are ridiculously unbalanced. One should include there a story about prosecution of all potential oppositioners prior to these elections to clean up the way for Medvedev.] (]) 01:57, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Help requested == | |||
| ], ]. I guess this topic is of interest to you. Some smart-assess already try to delete it as "nonnotable neologism". `']] 06:04, 26 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I agree with you. This is a good disambing page. But I guess this is not an issue any more, since you have removed the "Prod".] (]) 18:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==CfD nomination of Category:Nuclear terrorism== | |||
| ]''']''', which you created, has been nominated for ], ], or ]. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at ''']''' on the ] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. – ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 23:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you for this notification. Why did not you tell me first as a courtesy? Then I would had some time to improve this.] (]) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| The comment that I posted to the talk page was actually expressing the concerns of ] (] '''·''' ]), who . You may want to follow up with him. | |||
| Normally I'd be happy to help mediate things between you and ellol. At the moment, though, I'm very busy in real-life and probably wouldn't be able to do the matter justice. I recommend the fine folks over at ]. ] <sup>(])</sup> 02:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry, I thought that was your comment. Thank you for your advice, but I am too busy with other things at the moment.] (]) 02:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Take a look if you have time, and let me know what you think. Would you have time to create a simple comparison table? Cheers, --]|<sup>]</sup> 22:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == The bombing suspects == | |||
| I've established all the backgrounds and ethnicities of the terrorist suspects for the apartment bombings. It appears none of them were Chechen and they were all russian citizens ] (see how I added the ethnicities of the suspects). | |||
| So how did that work? In the introduction of both the apartment bombings page and the 2nd chechen war page it says "chechens were blamed", but in the end none of their named suspects was chechen!? In which way did they blame chechens for the bombings, can you find a source of a statement by officials about that? Cheers. ] (]) 22:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you very much for work with these articles. Yes, the Chechens were blamed immediately, hundreds of them arrested in Moscow, military operations against Chechnya began immediately, and all of that ''without any investigation''. But wait a minute... As written in the "Bombings" article, "Just a few days after the bombings, on September 23, the head of Moscow FSB Alexander Tsarenko announced that all Chechen perpetrators had been already apprehended. However, the people mentioned by Tsarenko turned out to be not Chechens but from Ingushetia and were later released as not having any relation to the explosions.". But that is not all. As you are telling, all ''other'' suspects and convicts also were not Chechens (and perhaps this should be reflected better in the article). But does it really matters? No, it does not. What does matter is propaganda. If TV in Russia tells the perpetrators were Chechens, everyone believes it.] (]) 02:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Viktor Popkov (also Gordievsky) == | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Arbi_Barayev#Viktor_Popkov | |||
| Also guess you'd be interested in .--] (]) 16:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I replied at the article talk page. Perhaps you missed that, but according to ], "Agents of special services are among organizers of Politkovskaya assassination. However someone saves them by disclosing secret materials of the criminal case". <ref name="Agents"> by Sergei Sokolov, 06.04.2008</ref>. The traces of the killer lead to a gang that was led in the past by ] <ref name="Agents"/>, an FSB officer who allegedly organized a bombing in Moscow in ] and was later involved in ] <ref name="Assassins"> ] and ]) ''The Age of Assassins. The Rise and Rise of Vladimir Putin'', Gibson Square Books, London, 2008, ISBN 190-614207-6; </ref> | |||
| {{reflist}}. ] (]) 04:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ---- | |||
| On the Beslan page you added "On the third day of the standoff, Russian security forces stormed the building using tanks, thermobaric rockets and other heavy weapons." | |||
| I believe it, but is this already an undisputed fact? I thought there were many versions of the events, or does this not have any doubt? ] (]) 13:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Obviously they ''stormed'' the building. What weapons did they use was described in . Perhaps there ''was'' in the past a controversy what caused the first blast, but I do not see any disputes with regard to ''types of weapons'' used by Russian forces.] (]) 15:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ok it's fine then, thanks. ] (]) 19:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks == | |||
| Thanks for the pointers on ]. Have left an apology note at the discussion page. ] (]) 21:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Deletions of old talk pages == | |||
| Hi! I am not deleting talkpages with any content at all; see the recent exchange between myself and ] and for the boring, technical explanation. ] | |||
| ==Copyright== | |||
| Hello. You recently reverted a series of edits that I made in the ] article. It seems you are unaware of how copyright laws work, and how copyright policy works on wikipedia. Please see FAQ for a better understanding. It says: "The fair use clause of copyright law is much more liberal with regard to text. Facts cannot be copyrighted, and limited use of copyrighted material can be done without requiring permission from the rights holders for such things as scholarship and review. Don't copy entire paragraphs from news stories, for example - that's way beyond what is allowed." | |||
| If you check my edits, there were no copied paragraphs from sources, only sentences and collective facts. You also reverted a number of other changes that were not related to that at all. Please be more careful when reverting in the future and make yourself more aware of policies before disrupting the flow of useful information. Thank you and happy editing. ] (]) 04:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::LokiiT, its best not to even copy sentences into articles. There lies a slippery slope to even more more sentences being taken. I would suggest re wording them all and leaving the source. Since you have reverted 3 times aperently you obviously have the time to do it. Would this not solve all of the probloms? <span style="border:1px solid #0000FF;">] </span> 04:32, 16 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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