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== Uncontroversial proposals ==
Only list proposals here that are ''clearly'' uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). ''Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone.'' '''Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section''' and use '''<nowiki>{{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}}</nowiki>''' rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.
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*] to ]. This geological stage has been officially renamed by the international scientific body responsible for such matters. A section detailing the meaning of the original name and the reason for the renaming will be included when the article move is completed.] (]) 13:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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==Incomplete and contested proposals==
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* '''] → ]''' — Person in question is better know by this name. Also, unable to move it myself as another wiki user had made the above (wrong) move in the first place. He does not contest this move — ] (]) 06:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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**'''Dots''' That should be ], I believe. -]❤]☮]☺]☯ 06:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


==Commenting on a requested move ==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'') —The article is about the entire organization, including subsidaries. I feel that it should be named as the organization, not just the Wal-Mart stores. ] (]) 22:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
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**Incomplete. ] (]) 23:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:
* When editors recommend a course of action, they write '''Support''' or '''Oppose''' in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. {{code|<nowiki>'''Support'''</nowiki>}}.
* Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding {{code|<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}} to the end. Responses to another editor are ] using multiple bullets.
* The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
* Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per {{Section link|Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI}}.


When participating, please consider the following:
*'''] → ]... see . <small style="white-space:nowrap;size:95%;color:#2F74FF">—<small style="background:#FFFFFF;border:#EB8500 1px solid;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px">''']'''</small>—<small style="background:#DBDBDB;border:#EB8500 1px solid;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px">''']'''</small>—<small style="background:#DBDBDB;border:#EB8500 1px solid;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px">''']'''</small></small> 10:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
* Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at ].
**Incomplete. ] (]) 17:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
* Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include ], specific naming conventions, and ].
**'''Oppose''' See ]. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 18:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
* The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
* Explain ''how'' the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
* {{anchor|nom|Nom}}Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.{{efn|A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement appears on the list on this page.}}
* Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <nowiki><s></nowiki> and <nowiki></s></nowiki> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "• <s>Support</s> '''Oppose'''".


Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, ], and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a ] process.
*'''] → ]''' - The school has changed its name as of 2007 to "Bedford High School for Girls". At present this is only a redirect, but it should now be the title of the page. ] (]) 07:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
**Incomplete. ] (]) 18:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


==Closing a requested move==
* '''] → ]''' — No reason for the second word to have the first letter capitalized. — ] (]) 06:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Any ] editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read ] for information on how to close a move request. The ] details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
**The article is about not about democratic republics in general but about nations whose proper-names include the words "Democratic Republic". Similarly with page ]. ] (]) 13:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


== Relisting a requested move ==
=Other proposals=
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Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before ].{{efn|Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.}} Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of ]. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.


Relisting should be done using {{tlxs|RM relist}}, which automatically includes the relister's signature, ''and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures)''.
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When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the ]; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
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If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely ], such as by notifying ] of the discussion using the template {{tl|RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— VIRTRIUM LLC (owner) Renamed the Game —] (]) 13:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


== Notes ==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Currently, Petro Mohyla is the most commonly used name. Historically, Peter Mogila‎ was common. Petro Mohyla is a transliteration form Ukrainian. Peter Mogila‎ is a transliteration from Russian. The person was a Metropolitan of Kiev. —] (]) 03:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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==<span id="C"></span>]==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Move article from Wǔxiá back to Wuxia, because it is the name used in English language press, when talking about movies, etc. —] (]) 06:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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==] ]== == See also ==
* ], which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions
*'''] - ]''' —('']'')— This move is to move the article to a more appropriate location, given that the restrictions discussed apply equally to ham, bacon, trotters, snouts, tails, ears etc, not just pork. --] (]) 22:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— This move is to reflect that fact that the Phillies franchise never officially changed its name to the Blue Jays. Sources vary on this, but the official team history says that the team's name has not changed since the inception of the Phillies name in 1884, in conjunction with Quakers. I did not realize that the Blue Jays pages existed and created a duplicate at the new location by mistake. —] (]) 19:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Moved without discussion last August. Now Prohibition redirects to Prohibition of alcohol, for no reason. —] (]) 19:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC) - Relisting to attempt consensus. ] (]) 18:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Non-standard orthography. —] (]) 17:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
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*'''] → ]'''—('']'')— The current name covers the same content as ], a ].--] (]) 14:15, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Current title is not inline with current usage in the sources, per ] —] (]) 09:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Its like ] says, the man never really ruled the Independent State of Croatia due to his misgivings with the ] leadership (per ]). He was also never crowned and he thought the title itself was a joke. Finally, even if we choose to ignore the above, the ] never really ''de jure'' existed, and one can hardly be a monarch of a non-existent state. —--<font face="Eras Bold ITC">] <sup>(])</sup></font> 07:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Everything said in the article applies just as well to ] churches. Besides, there is no assertion of notability for current name. —--] <small>(] • ])</small> 00:33, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

==] ]==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Per WP:COMMONNAME, there is no need to add his full name to the article's title, since he is always credited and called as Clarence Gilyard, and adding his middle name is unnecessary unless there is already somebody with the same name. —] (]) 19:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— revert a move from a month and a half ago which was done without discussion and contra naming conventions. A ] page already existed, so the February move was doubly useless. This should be uncontroversial, but requires an admin. —] ] 18:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— See ]. —] (]) 01:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

==] ]==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The film is clearly the primary use. The film article was recently moved to ], and ] was made into a disambiguation page. But there are only two articles to disambiguate: this one and the article for ], the soundtrack album (there was a duplicate soundtrack article, ], which I have redirected to the (album) article). The page ] has about 70 incoming links (the editor who moved the film page didn't fix the links), nearly all of which refer to the film. The film article should be returned to its original location. —] ] 19:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Location of the battle is uncertain. —] ] 16:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' ('']''). Three reasons for that:
*#Accordingly with ], his name must be transcribed by ''Levon Ter-Petrosyan'';
*#''Levon Ter-Petrosyan'' is the English transcription, while ''Levon Ter-Petrossian'' is the French one;
*#''Levon Ter-Petrosyan'' is far more usual than ''Levon Ter-Petrossian'' (and ''Levon Ter-Petrosian'' with one ''s''). ] (])

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— The new title gives more comprehensive view of the international reactions —] (]) 06:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC).

*]: the cocktail meaning is primary —] (]) 03:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
**'''] → ]''' —('']'')
**'''] → ]''' —('']'')

*''']''' → ''']'''&mdash;('']''): canonical title. See talk page for further explanation. --] (]) 01:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— I'm proposing moving this dab page to allow ''LHC'' to redirect directly to ], with a suitable {{]}} transclusion to direct users to the dab page. From a global point of view, the collider is extremely prevalent in the news, and is only going to become more so over the next year. I suspect the other entries are much less likely to be abbreviated to the LHC acronym, and are less likely to be what people are looking for. —-- ] ] 01:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

==] ]==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— ] made a request on my talk page to move this page back to ] (which is currently a disambiguation page). I had recently moved ] to ] on the request of another user (]) for the reason of naming conventions. —<font color="DarkGray">...</font> ] <sub>]</sub> 21:22, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Capitalization; probably an uncontroversial move, but maybe I'm missing something. —] (]) 21:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— It would be much more correct to describe both the "Anonymous" concept and the activities listed in the article as being part of imageboard culture. —] (]) 19:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— West Virginia Division of Highways doesn't use the term "primary state highways." The roads are referred to as "state routes" (when not just called West Virginia xx). The existing name appears to stem from a misunderstanding of the state/county systems of roads, but I am tagging it for comments rather than just moving since there have been discussion about the proper term in the past. (Edited original description to provide clarity on the move request.) —] (]) 19:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— She is credited as just "Wynonna" on all of her albums and singles, so the naming conventions for stage names seems to apply here. —] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 17:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Élie, duc Decazes did not have a "de" in his title. Whoever moved the article did not understand that family names incorporated into French titles do not include the word "de," only titles with ]s do. ] (]) 14:52, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Article is about a novella, not a novel (cf. ]. —] (]) 07:32, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Removal of the decoratively used exclamation mark, in order to avoid undue emphasis on the brand/company name, giving preference to standard English (see ]). – ] <sup>(])</sup> 02:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Reduction of stylized capitalization, see talk page. —] (]) 01:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

==] ]==
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— "Biopic" is by far the more commonly used phrase for a film whose subject is an individual person, as evidenced by a Google search. —<font color="404040">]</font> 21:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
**Relist to get some input on move. ] (]) 22:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
***'''Reject''' "Biopic" is a "slang term". FWiW, it is tantamount to speaking in "industryspeak." ] (]) 22:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC).
*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— more common name used - see talk page —Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:47, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' - ('']'') title as on publication's masthead and standard WP naming practice to include definite article. ] (]) 17:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' - ('']'') - per ] - ] (]) 14:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— To conform to the usual English translation of the name. —] (]) 05:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— per ] —] (]) 02:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

*] → ] '''] → ]''' —('']'')—per ] —] (]) 00:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC) ] (]) 00:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— per ]. First, since the team is Greek, and their name is officially written using the Greek alphabet, there will obviously be ambiguity over the correct spelling of the club's name in English. However, this can be overcome by the fact that the club's official website (http://www.aekfc.gr/) has an English language section (http://www.aekfc.gr/index.asp?a_id=296), where it can be seen that the club calls itself "AEK F.C." in numerous locations. This name is obviously recognisable, as it is not too dissimilar from the current name of the club's article here on Misplaced Pages (AEK Athens F.C.). It is not easily confused with other clubs' names either, as each of the other football teams with "AEK" in their name also include their location as a differentiator from this AEK. Finally, this name has been adopted by a significant section of the English media, as shown by . This search shows that just as many of the returned articles refer to the team as "AEK" or "AEK FC" as refer to the team as "AEK Athens". Therefore, the proposed name satisfies all of the criteria for no ambiguity over the club's English name, and the article should be moved to "AEK F.C." – ]] 00:00, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

==Backlog==
''Move dated sections here after five days have passed ({{ #time: F j | -6 days }} or older).''

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— For the many consistency reasons, if ] is being counted as an invasion. Then this one should also. Especially since this was a heavier military engagment. More points are listed on the page. —] (]) 22:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— "America" is ambiguous. —--] <small>(] • ])</small> 15:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)}

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— "America" is ambiguous —--] <small>(] • ])</small> 15:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']''))— It's unnecessary a space between Xinhua and Lu. Its name is Xinhualu correctly. --] (]) 14:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Standard is to not include "Athletics" in page name —-] (]) 06:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Neutral observers and international organisations describe the Chinese army invasion of Tibet from 1950-1951 as the 'Invasion of Tibet'. —] (]) 03:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Ronaldo (de Lima) isn't the only famous footballer by the name Ronaldo, people looking for the others will only type in Ronaldo, as I did when looking for the Portugese Ronaldo at Manchester United. '''Any page of the than just ''Ronaldo'' would be fine''' —10:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)] (])

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Move to a more common name. I request it here, even though the proposed page is a redirect, because of the large amount of articles linking to the current page. —&mdash;]] 16:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''] → ]''' — ''(Discussions at ] (old) and ] (current))'' — Move was requested at 09:20, 8 April 2008 by ] as a <nowiki>{{db-move}}</nowiki>, but is disputed — ] (]) 10:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Current title way to ambiguous as desribed in the talk page. —] (]) 21:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

*missleading and incorrect word use —] (]) 08:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— This name was old (& original) name for this page, but dedicated for ] in wrong —] (]) 06:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' - ('']'') - Reason is because Tetsusaiga is the name used in all known official English publications by ] in the U.S., UK, and Canada, and because there is no known reliable source saying that the change from Tessaiga to Tetsusaiga was made in error. ] (]) 05:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— to differentiate against other forms of ] —— <font face="Verdana">''']''' <small>· ] · 17:49, Saturday, 5 April 2008</small></font> 17:49, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— In the hope that this article can finally cease to be a battleground, I believe we should make it as neutral and encyclopedic-sounding as possible. One of the most important issues facing anyone there is the title, as it can be interpreted as a form of cultural pretention towards Dalmatia. In short, this article is about a national minority (as everyone accepts), we should simply name it as such in order to avoid confusion and further neutralize tensions. —--<font face="Eras Bold ITC">] <sup>(])</sup></font> 23:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— ] —] (]) 07:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Since the competition has a commonly used English name, that name should be used, per ] —– ]] 22:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— Orthography overwhelmingly used in reliable sources in English —] (]) 07:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

*'''] → ]''' —('']'')— per ]: ''"Scientific names are to be used as page titles in all cases except... "'' for three situations that don't apply in this case. —— <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span> 02:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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Don't WP:ENGVAR and MOS:RETAIN apply? Minor spelling variations are not really different names. Note that Gray hawk does not use the IOC's spelling. See prior discussions at Talk:Gray hawk. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
It's been at its current title for almost two years which IMO is a bit late to revert a previously undiscussed WP:BOLDMOVE. Unsure a case for globalization should be made here given the article currently only covers US amusement part incidents and Incidents at European amusement parks already exists in a much more advanced state. Note there is a previous version of the article that had much more thorough coverage of US incidents here before it was gutted in 2022; perhaps that could be fixed up.Further discussion would probably help here. RachelTensions (talk) 04:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
@Tobiasi0 your move request has been contested. If you wish to continue, please open a full requested move discussion by clicking the "discuss" link next to your request. RachelTensions (talk) 02:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Shawnbrescia Search shows that current name is also commonly used. Full RM might be needed ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:53, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Where are you seeing H. alba used? The only case I can find is BioLib, which changed the page after the Misplaced Pages page for H. alba was created. Also, even if H. alba is used by secondary sources, the rules of scientific nomenclature forbid renaming of species unless it is done in a peer-reviewed journal, which I can find no evidence of. Shawnbrescia (talk) 15:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Better do a full RM ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 05:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@Bunnypranav: would you be willing to move the page first, then if you are still concerned about sourcing, do an RM from albus back to alba? My strong concerns about potential WP:circular reporting (as implied in Shawnbrescia's reply to you) compel me to ask for this deviation from standard procedure. The sources in the article itself suggest alba is WP:OR: the ICZN source cited says nothing about H. albus itself. My own searches on Google Scholar found the one source cited, Ávalos-Hernández 2009, for albus but absolutely nothing for alba. Thank you, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 08:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Your arguments and the nom is fine, but I'm still not that confident about the move. Feel free to move it to the above discussion if you think another PM can take care of it. Or just simply start an RM, that will have comments from many more editors about the confusion in sources. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
In that case, I ask a pagemover please move to albus before opening a RM discussion back to alba if pagemover still has concerns about sourcing. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@Rotideypoc41352: That’s not how this page works. We don’t move an article and then request to move it back. A page mover has already contested the request. If you are interested in moving the page, you are free to request it on the talk page. cyberdog958 15:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I intentionally invoked WP:IAR this one time for reasons I already outlined above; this specific set of circumstances should (in its imperative mood) not be used to set any sort of precedent. I do not oppose moving this to article talk. Cheers, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Rotideypoc41352: I think a full RM would be required. There you can present your reasonings to other editors more familiar with the topic area. We can’t control what others do with the information coming from Misplaced Pages. I don’t see WP:CIRCULAR as a compelling enough reason to IAR and hasten the process outside the normal procedure. cyberdog958 17:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't think this case of IAR really helps anything. The discussion is relatively unlikely to end as a no consensus close, and regardless of where the article is before the move, the last stable title is the current one; no consensus closes default back to the last stable title. This should either be handled here (which by now, enough discussion has occurred where it really shouldn't be) or in a full RM beginning at the current title. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 22:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Shawnbrescia your technical move has been contested and you will have to open a full RM to proceed with the move; you can do so by using the "discuss" link above. Sennecaster (Chat) 03:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
I apologize if I’m misunderstanding, as I’m relatively new to editing Misplaced Pages. Could you please clarify why the move can’t be performed? I’m unclear on what basis my move request has been contested. I’ve provided evidence that the name being used is erroneous and fabricated, and no counterargument has been provided. Bunnypranav initially contested, but did not provide specifics when I asked, and in their final comment they seem to have withdrawn. Subsequent comments have concerned Misplaced Pages protocols rather than the move request itself. So what is actually being contested here?
I’m concerned that because this article is about an obscure species of fly, if I were to start an RM I’m wondering how long it would sit without a single person seeing it, while perpetuating the error. I can’t even frame an argument on the RM without knowing what the actual issue is with the move. Shawnbrescia (talk) 13:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
@OrdinaryScarlett Quick search shows that sources are using the long name as well. Full RM might be needed to due no clear common name. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@DareshMohan There seems to be no primary between the two films. @Wbm1058: recently moved an article away from this title. So this is not uncontroversial, full RM is required ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Mvcg66b3r You yourself just filed the AfD on WNYT (internet radio) three minutes before requesting the move here. I suggest to wait until the AfD is closed before we start moving the pages around. cyberdog958 05:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@Tstcikhthys1 I am contesting all of these "alternate" to "alternative" moves, as they are not uncontroversial and should go through a full move discussion to determine the COMMONNAME of their subjects. Toadspike 13:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
See for instance the third footnote of Alternate history, which reads Brave New Words: The Oxford Dictionary of Science Fiction (Oxford University Press, 2007) notes the preferred usage is "Alternate History", which was coined in 1954; "Alternative History" was first used in 1977, pp. 4–5. This directly contradicts the claim that British sources prefer "alternative". Toadspike 13:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages has dealt with this terminology issue in the past. At Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Albums there have been several flips over the years about what to call an extra album cover used in other countries and the like. Sometimes it was "Alternate cover" but it is currently "Alternative cover" (see Template:Infobox album). The earliest such discussion I can find was way back in 2009 at Template talk:Infobox album/Archive 5#Mistake, and note the dictionary definitions like those brought up by the requester here. So no matter how messy they may be, these requests have some precedents. All will be controversial, regardless. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@Khanh Nguyen Same as above, (please ping on reply) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Iskandar323 Both names seem to be used in books, but news articles and general google searches show results for Kilshon, not Pitchfork. Full RM might be needed for more comments. (please ping on reply) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Iskandar323 Not uncontroversial, previously moved in opposite direction . Toadspike 18:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Hemant Dabral WP:COMMONNAME seems to be without the accent, all sources in article use it without the acccent. (please ping on reply) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
WP:COMMONNAME seems to be Pasunuri, sources say so. (please ping on reply) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves

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Requesting a single page move

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For example, to propose moving the articles Misplaced Pages and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Misplaced Pages with current1 set to Misplaced Pages and current2 set to Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Misplaced Pages). Do not sign the request with ~~~~, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.

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Commenting on a requested move

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Closing a requested move

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Relisting a requested move

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Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing. Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

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Current discussions

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This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
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This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 115 discussions have been relisted.

January 5, 2025

  • (Discuss) – Waikiki → Waikīkī – Waikīkī is the official neighbourhood name and is used in English for local official communication. The deliniation of "English" vs "Hawaiian" in the article is not reflected in WP:RS and is more akin to São Paulo being spelled Sao Paulo due to the missing key on the keyboard. WP:COMMONNAME has been discussed at pertinent wikiprojects and the general sense is "just because a ton of tourists don't bother with the proper spelling, doesn't mean it's not the proper spelling". See also other articles on Hawaii like Kahoʻolawe, and it's consistent within the neighbourhood and regions. This needs to be done for a few articles which have accurately updated the content but not the article titles, likely due to technical restrictions around redirect pages or inertia from people who assume their understanding is WP:COMMONNAME Many of the names of organizations in Waikīkī in the article were actually mispelled to drop the diacritics despite those organizations themselves. See older discussions on Hawaiian wikiprojects, but this has been done a few times before and right now we've got WP:RS stating the official name includes the kahakō Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 13:36, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – KN-02 Toksa → Hwasong-11 – These cases are similar to Hwasong-7 and Hwasong-10. The Hwasong-7 and Hwasong-10 are commonly referred to using external name given by United States (Rodong/Nodong and Musudan, respectively). These articles using official North Korea desginations. According to a The Hankyoreh article (here), "In many cases, the names given by other countries have entered more common usage than the names given by the countries that actually produced them. This has to do with the practice of most countries declining to give the actual name of missiles in the development stages or actual key use, due to reasons of military secrecy". KN-02, KN-06 and KN-19 have official North Korean designation (Hwasong-11, Pongae-5 and Kumsong-3, respectively), suggesting the revelation of official names. The M142 HIMARS (whose common name is HIMARS), and UGM-133 Trident II (whose common name is Trident II or Trident II D5) using official United States's designations, therefore, it seems unfair for North Korean missile articles to use the US designation (KN-xx) as title, although the official North Korean designations are known. And the common name policy appears to be not suitable for these cases. Therefore, the above articles (KN-02 Toksa, KN-06 and KN-19) should be moved per above. TCU9999 (talk) 04:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

January 4, 2025

  • (Discuss) – Dextroamphetamine → Dexamfetamine – To conform with Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles which specifies that articles on drugs should use the INN (dexamfetamine) as the article title. This was requested as a technical move, but contested on the grounds that the current title is in common usage in certain areas of the field of medicine (i.e. the US). I would argue that the entire point of Misplaced Pages adopting a standard such as the use of the INN is to avoid favouring one area of usage over another, for example the use of the INN Paracetamol as an article title over the US English Acetominophin. Further afield, the usage of Aluminium over Aluminum clearly demonstrates that common usage in US English is not sufficient grounds to prefer a US English name over the accepted standard name. Dalziel 86 (talk) 23:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – East Timor → Timor-Leste – Previous moves have established that Portuguese sources, Australian sources, CIA, UN, and others do use Timor-Leste which arguably makes it common name, but previous moves failed because Timor-Leste is supposedly a political name. It is not. In Indonesia, the country from which Timor-Leste gained independence, Timor-Leste is the name of the country, and East Timor (province) is the name of the former province. Timor Leste (without the dash) is the article title of the country in the following languages: Bahasa Indonesia, Bahasa Melayu, Basa Bali, Jawa, Sunda, Acèh, Minangkabau. Timor Timur (translation of East Timor without disambiguation) is the article name of the province in the following languages: Bahasa Indonesia, Bahasa Melayu. The languages are explained in the following paragraph. Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian language) is the lingua franca of Indonesia and is a variant of Bahasa Melayu. Bahasa Melayu (Malay language) is the lingua franca of the region including countries of Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, and others. Basa Bali (Balinese language) is the language in Bali, the exotic island in Indonesia. Jawa (Javanese language) and Sunda (Sundanese language) are languages in Java, the most-populous island in Indonesia. Acèh (Acehnese language) and Minangkabau (Minangkabau language) are languages in Sumatra, the second most-populous island in Indonesia. I view the arguments made in favor of previous moves have been consistent with policies and guidelines. In this move, I aim to provide assurances to the remaining holdouts, moving the page is at least as safe as retaining the status quo. If this succeeds the province can now be the primary topic for East Timor. Kenneth Kho (talk) 21:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Flowers (Miley Cyrus song) → Flowers (song) – The Miley Cyrus song has hit number one in over 40 countries and was the best-selling single of 2023 per the IFPI, in addition to topping the year-end Billboard Global 200 for 2023. In addition, it won the Grammy Award for Record of the Year as well as the Grammy Award for Best Pop Solo Performance.
    As for the other exact matches with articles, the Billy Yates song did not chart outside of the US and only charted on Hot Country Songs. The Lauren Spencer-Smith song did not attain any top-10 positions, did not make any year-end charts, and did not attain certifications higher than Single Platinum. Finally, the Sweet Female Attitude song did not chart outside of Europe, and peaked at #2 on the UK Singles Chart with a 2x Platinum certification in the United Kingdom.
    On the other hand, when comparing against the Sweet Female Attitude song (the most successful of the other songs), the Miley song peaked at number-one on the UK Singles Chart and stayed there for 10 weeks. In addition, it is certified 3x Platinum in the United Kingdom and was the year-end number one of 2023 in that country.
    Finally, with respect to ], the Miley song has 10x the page views of the Sweet Female Attitude song, 100x the page views of the Lauren Spencer-Smith song, and 1000x the page views of the Billy Yates song. However, the Miley song is newer than all the three other songs, as the Sweet Female Attitude song had its page created in 2013, the Lauren Spencer-Smith song was released in 2022, and the Billy Yates song had its page created in 2021. This means that the Miley song attained its views in the shortest timespan of all four pages.
    For the above reasons, I believe that the Miley Cyrus song is the primary topic with respect to songs. N0nuun (talk) 20:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Kill Bill (SZA song) → Kill Bill (song) – The SZA song has hit the top 5 in several countries, including the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and Ireland. In addition, it was nominated for the Grammy Award for Song of the Year and the Grammy Award for Record of the Year.
    There is only one other song with the same name with a Misplaced Pages article, and that is the Brown Eyed Girls song. The article in question is much shorter with much fewer references, and it has no charting information in the way that the SZA song does.
    Finally, looking at ], the SZA song has over 100x the pageviews as the Brown Eyed Girls song, and with much less time to do so, as the Brown Eyed Girls song had its page created in 2014, and the SZA song was released in 2022.
    For the above reasons, I believe that the SZA song is the primary topic with respect to songs. N0nuun (talk) 19:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Oleg of Drelinia → Oleg of Dereva – "drelinia" appears to be an WP:OR toponym, it is not widely attested in English-language WP:RS. Therefore, as pointed out in 2011 by User:Ghirlandajo, there is no such term as "drelinia". It was a good thing he decided rename the article to "Oleg of the Drevlyans", although that is still not quite what the text says. (Some English literature suggests "Oleg among the Derevlyans", but only for translating this specific sentence in PVL 69.8–9). Nevertheless, in 2018 this was reverted back to "Oleg of Drelinia" by User:Iryna Harpy with the comment revert: Undiscussed move. Drelinia is attested to in English language texts, whether correct or incorrect. Is WP:OR as WP:TITLE. Well, I could find only 1 hit on Google Books (Ase Berit, Rolf Strandskogen 2015, which may have been influenced by this enwiki article), and 0 hits on Google Scholar. So let's get back to the basics. The land in question is simply called Дерева Dereva, which in modern Ukrainian and Russian still simply means "the trees" or "the woods" (plural; in singular wikt:дерево), i.e. "the Woods". * Въ лѣто 6478. Святославъ посади Яропълка въ Кыевѣ, а Ольга въ Деревѣхъ. (PVL 69.8–9 Ostrowski et al. 2003 ** Vŭ lěto 6478. Svyatoslavŭ posadi Yaropolŭka vŭ Kyevŭ, a Olĭga vŭ Derevěkhŭ. *** 6478 (970). Svyatoslav set up Yaropolk in Kiev and Oleg in Dereva. Cross&SW 1953 p. 87 деревѣхъ (derevěkhŭ) is the plural locative of дерево in Old East Slavic. It literally means "in the woods". Sometimes it is nevertheless translated as Derevlyans or some spelling variation of that ethnonym (e.g. Thuis 2015 Derevljanen), but in this case, it is a toponym, referring to a land (Dereva "the Woods") and not to a people (Derevlyans "the Wood-Dwellers"). In 12 cases in total, Cross&SW rendered the toponym as Dereva, and never as "Drelinia". In the incident in which Oleg kills Lyut', Oleg's hunting grounds are similarly called "in the forest", but with a different word: въ лѣсѣ vŭ lěsě (PVL 74.12–14; Cross&SW p. 90). Compare with the next event (1): *В лѣто 6485. Поиде Яропълкъ на Ольга, брата своего, на Деревьску землю. PVL 74.22–23 ** Vŭ lěto 6485. Poide Yaropŭlkŭ na Olĭga, brata svoego, na Derevĭsku zemlyu. *** 6484-6485 (976-977). Yaropolk marched against his brother Oleg into the district of Dereva. p. 90 Compare with a previous event (2): *И послуша ихъ Игорь; иде въ Дерева въ дань. PVL 54.20 ** I poslusha ikhŭ Igorĭ; ide vŭ Dereva vŭ danĭ. *** Igor' heeded their words, and he attacked Dereva in search of tribute. p. 87 Some English-language literature suggests simply Oleg of Dereva, or Oleg Sviatoslavich of Dereva. Going by our own enwiki conventions, we could also go for Oleg, Prince of Dereva, but that has the problem of translating knyaz, which is a whole other discussion that we better avoid. interwikis suggest Oleg Sviatoslavich (Prince of Dereva or Oleg Sviatoslavich (Derevlyan prince) (but those would not conform to enwiki conventions), or simply Oleg Sviatoslavich (but that already redirects to Oleg I of Chernigov). All things considered, Oleg of Dereva is the most obvious title: it conforms to our conventions, it is WP:CONCISE, it is somewhat attested in literature, plus Dereva separately is overwhelmingly attested in English-language literature as the toponym's WP:COMMONNAME. The current title is WP:OR and cannot be maintained anymore, and the other options all have certain problems that Oleg of Dereva does not have. NLeeuw (talk) 15:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Bob Simpson (cricketer) → Bobby Simpson (cricketer) – Bobby Simpson is one of the best-known cricketers ever and is not known as "Bob Simpson". There is a redirect from "Bobby Simpson" to "Bob Simpson" when it should be the other way round. Then "Bob Simpson (cricketer)" should be deleted. The 2005 changes are not quite the solution. If this proposal is acceptable, I hope someone technically minded would make the change Billsmith60 (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Mufti Abdul Razzaq → Abdul Razzaq (scholar) – Previous attempts to rename this article were reverted on the grounds that it complies with Misplaced Pages's CommonName policy. However, based on my understanding, the title does not align with the policy's requirements. "Mufti" is an honorific title, and its inclusion in a CommonName is justified only when it is widely recognized and has become a fundamental part of the subject's identity, as in the cases of Mufti Mehmood or Maulana Azad. A comprehensive review indicates that the subject is not widely discussed in reliable sources, either in English or their native language, and lacks sufficient secondary sources. How, then, was the determination made that this is a CommonName? Coverage is limited, primarily consisting of breaking news after the subject’s death, with the majority of sources being relatively non-mainstream. While it is common for media to use titles in describing individuals, such usage does not necessarily equate to a CommonName under Misplaced Pages's criteria. –𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 14:29, 25 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Sundar C → Sundar C. – He is credited as Sundar.C in all of his films . Don't feel the need to include all of his films, though most are on YouTube. The English standard equivalent of putting a dot before the C is putting one afterwards. For, some reason Tamil names put the dot before although this is unconventional to American/Britsh English grammar rules. Indian media tends to avoid putting the dot even for names with dots. See: and . At the very least, credited as Sundar C. should be mentioned in the lead. DareshMohan (talk) 00:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

January 3, 2025

  • (Discuss) – Damdi Masjid → Damri Masjid – Damri Masjid is currently redirected to Toli Masjid, which is not referred to as the Damri Masjid in any scholarly sources. It was historically also known as the Damri Masjid (as noted by this), but in every piece of literature (academic sources, listing of monuments, newspapers, etc.) it is referred to as the Toli Masjid, and so is the case with all the sources in the article. The only source mentioning the name "Damri Masjid" also calls it Toli Masjid primarily, noting that Damri Masjid is a historical name for the mosque. On the other hand, Damdi Masjid is spelt Damri in all scholarly sources (2 of them in the refs on the article; many more passing mentions) and listings of historical monuments (ASI's list of monuments of national importance). Any confusion can easily be solved with distinguishing templates AmateurHi$torian (talk) 17:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Cabinet of Germany → Federal Government of Germany – "Federal Government of Germany" is the natural, precise, concise and above all consistent title. On the other hand, "Cabinet of Germany" is not commonly recognizable and not a title that readers are likely to look or search for if they wanted to find the German government. Furthermore, the current title is colloquial and legally (see Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany, sixth section, "VI. The Federal Government") and technically incorrect. The title also differs from all other search engine results on this topic and the official website itself.

References

  1. "Our Beliefs & History". Camp Dudley. Retrieved January 4, 2025.
  2. "Camp Dudley". Yakima YMCA. Retrieved January 4, 2025.
  3. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Federal+Government+of+Germany%2CCabinet+of+Germany&year_start=1840&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=false#
  4. https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=Cabinet%7CGovernment
  5. https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en
— Essixt (talk) 12:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:05, 14 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. —CX Zoom 16:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Saskatchewan Progress Party → Saskatchewan Liberal Party – While the current name of the party is the Progress Party, it is not the most notable name this party had. Under its current name, the party has never had a single MLA and finished last in only election (2024) it ever ran in under its current name. A good precedent would be the Alberta Social Credit Party, its current name is the Pro-Life Alberta Political Association, but it is still known by its older, historic, more relevant name. Like the Alberta Socreds, the Saskatchewan Liberals were a prominent party under its historic name. They elected premiers and either led the government or led the opposition. An alternative proposal would be to WP:SPLIT the article into two articles: one for the Saskatchewan Liberal Party and one for the Saskatchewan Progress Party. This would be similar to how there are separate articles for the Yukon Progressive Conservative Party and the Yukon Party. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 21:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Me-123567-Me (talk) 17:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

January 2, 2025

  • (Discuss) – Andrew Coffey → Andrew Coffey (football) – In addition to the move proposed here, I believe that a disambiguation page should be created out of the current primary title. There does not appear to be a primary topic in this situation -- the two articles for people with this name are stubs that fail to prove that one is more significant than the other, while the other Andrew Coffey noted in the hatnote, the hazing victim, only has an article about his death since that's the only significant coverage of him. The Coffey hazing case has the most information available I can find in a search, but given that he is not notable enough for a standalone biographical article per WP:BIO1E, combined with the fact that there is no evidence that one of the other two Andrew Coffeys is more likely as a primary search term than the other, I believe this page should be moved to the proposed title, with the main Andrew Coffey article being a disambiguation page between the three articles. JeffSpaceman (talk) 20:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Yotta Savings → Yotta – The company, and recent articles about it, uses the name "Yotta" and not "Yotta Savings". The term "savings" does not appear on the company's terms and conditions page, although its legal name "Yotta Technologies" does. The article "Yotta" on Misplaced Pages is a redirect to Metric prefix#List of SI prefixes, and while yotta is an SI prefix, it is a rarely used one for a very large number; we can refer to it in a hatnote from a retitled Yotta page about the fintech company. Two US-based search engines, when queried for yotta, return primarily pages about the fintech company, not the metric prefix. White 720 (talk) 18:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Aphilodontidae → Aphilodontinae – I request this move to reflect the renaming of this group of centipedes, which has been demoted from the family Aphilodontidae to the subfamily Aphilodontinae, as I explain in this Misplaced Pages article. Authorities have regarded Aphilodontidae as an invalid name for more than a decade now (since 2014). The subfamily name Aphilodontinae has been used instead by the three leading scholarly articles on the subject (published in 2019 and 2022 and cited in the Misplaced Pages article). See WP:NAMECHANGES on "Article titles." I think there might be some controversy only because I see an editor created a Redirect page for "Aphilodontinae" in 2021 redirecting users to "Aphilodontidae" instead. It would make more sense to redirect users in the opposite direction, from the invalid name to the one now in active use. HCUPa (talk) 16:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Use of Sarum → Sarum Missal – Or Sarum Rite – While the current title has considerable prevalence, it is no common name and its prevalence is no greater than the alternatives – both of which provide considerablly greater descriptive utility, outlining the subject as a missal or rite (and a more easily recognisable ecclesiastical category of subject), rather than merely a "use of", which is a descriptively unhelpful phrase. A-Z encyclopedias would opt to format a title such as this as "Sarum, Use of" to ensure the page listing in the "S"s rather than the "U"s. While this doesn't apply here, the same principle of having the more important key word up front does still benefit drop down menu searches and the like, which, combined with the historically greater prevalence of "Sarum Missal" name format simply reinforces the merit of the move. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Paris Saint-Germain Academy → Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy – A November 2024 RM failed, but it's unclear on what grounds. The current title, "Paris Saint-Germain Academy", refers to a program run by PSG for children across the world, giving them an opportunity to do training sessions under the PSG name and to improve on their game. It refers to this, with an example being the "France" academy here. These "schools" run by this "PSG Academy" program are NOT the actual youth academy this article is referring to. This article refers to the players that are in what is called in French the centre de formation, and by extension, those in the préformation. The article is referring to the players actually in PSG's youth system that ultimately goes up to the club's first team. And this youth system is NOT known by the name "Paris Saint-Germain Academy", both in sourcing and especially not by the club itself. The club calls its youth academy the centre de formation here, which it itself translates to "Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy" on the same page in English. Paul Vaurie (talk) 09:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Gray Television → Gray Media – Per press release issued on December 30, 2024, the Board of Directors approved a formal name change from "Gray Television" to "Gray Media." A page called Gray Media exists, but currently redirects to Gray Television. The redirect should be deleted, the page Gray Television should be moved to Gray Media, and Gray Television should redirect to Gray Media, accordingly. But, this is a bit above my skill set. TheMediaHistorian (talk) 07:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mvcg66b3r (talk) 06:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

January 1, 2025

  • (Discuss) – History of the Jews in the United States → Jewish history in the United States – I would like to request this move as I believe the target article title is more natural and succinct. In being titled “Jewish history in the United States”, my proposed title also avoids simply referring to “the Jews”, which is not inaccurate but doesn’t reflect the history of American Jews rather than Jews in general being the primary focus of this article (although see the paragraph below). I did think about American Jewish history (currently a redirect) as an article title, but I prefer “Jewish history in the United States” as it seems to have a wider scope, for example including within scope the history of Jews in the territory of the US before American independence. That said, as I have written above, the main focus of this article is on American Jews. I’m conscious there are many other articles on Misplaced Pages titled “History of the Jews in X”. I similarly think these would generally be better titled as “Jewish history in X” for the same reasons of naturalness, succinctness and precision. Although I haven’t made this a multi-page move due to the scale of making such a wide-ranging change. I’d welcome more experienced editors’ views about this. I’d suggest, if this move request is not successful, that Jewish history in the United States be created as a redirect to this page. As it’s quite a natural search term. Finally, I would note my proposed title aligns with the main article on Jewish history. Rafts of Calm (talk) 19:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Tel al-Sultan attack → Kuwait Peace Camp airstrike – The current title is not great: it's not particularly natural, precise or descriptive, but is merely a vague and fairly non-descript geographical handwave. The more natural titling surrounding the event in question has tended to revolve around the nomenclature of "Rafah tent ..." or "Rafah tent camp ..." (with attack/massacre as the operative descriptor) but these options equally lack precision (given there have been numerous tent camp attacks/massacres in Rafah). And yet "Tel al-Sultan" ironically isn't that much of an improvement, since Tel al-Sultan is equally not a specific city block or even neighborhood, but a substantial urban area within Rafah, and the attack also did not even really take place in Tel al-Sultan, but at a temporary tent camp on a previously deserted patch of land to the northeast of some UN warehouses that were themselves located to the northeast of Tel al-Sultan, on the other side of a peripheral ring road. The current title also does not mention either the key words "tent" or "camp" and is entirely obscure, non-descript and wholly unnatural as a search term. By contrast, the "Kuwait Peace Camp" is the precise location of the attack, as first attested by the BBC on 27 May based on the video footage, and confirmed by the Guardian and CNN on 29 May, and used as the principle identifier by Amnesty by 27 August. So this name represents the precise location of the attack and as a bonus contains the keyword "camp", so further specifies the nature of the event. And then "airstrike", because it was an airstrike, so that's precise, and the news coverage largely uses the term "strike". Meanwhile, the use of "attack" in the context is somewhat vague and could be confused with a ground assault, of which there have since been many in the area. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:26, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Use of child suicide bombers by Palestinian militant groups → Suicide bombing by minors in the Second Intifada – This page can readily be moved to a much more precise and specific title. The current title is somewhat vague and broad in scope when the topic itself is quite narrow and discrete. The topic in question is suicide bombing by minors in the Second Intifada. "Minors" is more useful here than "child", as it pertains to the internationally defined (and most common) age of legal adulthood as being at 18, and the topic here is bombings by 16 and 17 year olds, so shortly below this legal threshold. The qualitative terminology of "children" or "childhood" is vaguer and conjures up the sense of individuals in their early teens or younger just as readily as it does the sense of those in their late teens but prior to legal maturity. The "Second Intifada" is the very precise and discrete time period in question, the when of the topic and a delineation that should obviously be mentioned in the lead (as part of the WP:NCWWW of the topic). This is very explicitly not a general topic page or broad concept article, but one very specifically linked to said time period. The mention that the subject involves "Palestinian militant groups" is lengthy and unnecessary. This element is naturally outlined as part of the WP:SCOPE in the first sentence of the page, but is in any case implied by the context of the "Second Intifada", which makes it clear that the broader topic is the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, where such tactics in the relevant period were the preserve of only side. This makes the specific mention of this element of the subject fairly redundant and unnecessary in the title. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

December 31, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Anthroponymy/Standards → Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Anthroponomy/Style advice – To be consistent with the rest of the style-advice WP:PROJPAGE essays of topical wikiprojects. There may be a few other stragglers, but they should move to the same consistent naming pattern as well. PS: This isn't even an appropriate use of standard, since this page and what it outlines don't qualify under any definition applicable here. At most, this is page reflects the collective (and generally pretty sound but not authoritative) opinions of a small number of topic-devoted editors, and it needs careful review to make sure it actually complies with our WP:P&G that cover style and page-title matters (which most style PROJPAGEs do not until subjected to considerable revision).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:20, 23 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Thalassodrominae → Thalassodromidae – Basically undoing the previous move above, since supporters of the denomination Thalassodrominae have rejected its use in favor of the denomination Thalassodromidae in order to have consistency with other opposing studies that use Thalassodromidae. Here is said study, by Pêgas and colleagues in 2023. Subsequent studies that follow a tapejaromorph classification for this group, which would traditionally mean the use of Thalassodrominae, have also employed the denomination Thalassodromidae as well. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 19:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Aaron Livesy → Aaron Dingle – I am starting this discussion due to the recent copy-paste moves. Having changed his name in 2016, I think the character's common name is now Dingle, having been credited with it for over 8 years and being more known by it due to his connection with the Dingle family. I thought this could use a fresh discussion as the last one was 3 years ago and having a finalised decision could stop copy/paste moves. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 12:46, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

December 30, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Moldova and the Russo-Ukrainian War → Russian hybrid warfare against Moldova – This article is a compilation of actions that Russia has done to undermine and destabilize Moldova in the last years. They have happened during the Russo-Ukrainian War, but are part of a single coordinated effort and plan. We can rename the article so it covers this more precise and encyclopedic topic. We have a lot of sources describing this hybrid warfare that Russia is doing against Moldova. Here are some big names: the Institute for the Study of War ("The full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine is, in fact, supporting Russian hybrid warfare efforts in former Soviet states, particularly Moldova and Georgia"), the European Parliament ("vehemently condemns Russia's escalating malicious activities, interference and hybrid operations ahead of Moldovans going to the polls"), Politico citing Moldova's chief of police ("Moldova is facing a phenomenon of voter bribery, combined with hybrid warfare and disinformation, the likes of which our country has never seen before,"), Euronews ("the Kremlin has enacted elements of its hybrid war playbook in both states "), NATO itself ("In Moldova, Russia’s hybrid warfare has been aimed at toppling the country’s pro-EU government"). This hybrid warfare scheme would have involved many actions and events that are either already in the article or would have been had the article been written later. This article, currently with a vague and open scope, is the best recipient for this topic. Here are sources mentioning these actions as hybrid warfare: Russian-paid protests in Moldova (: "Russia has dedicated considerable resources to its hybrid war. For instance, protestors are routinely paid to participate in anti-government protests.", page 6; : "It later emerged that protesters had been paid by Kremlin proxies to attend." in an article about Russian hybrid warfare in Moldova), continuous airspace violations and falling of drones and missiles (: "The overall internal security situation remains stable, but fragile due to regular incidents such as bomb hoaxes and missiles or missile debris falling on Moldovan territory. in a section regarding hybrid warfare, page 258), Transnistria's role in this effort (: "Chisinau has been the victim of a complex hybrid action carried out by the Kremlin on multiple levels. In this respect, the Transnistria region has long been used by Russia as a bargaining chip in its efforts to influence Republic of Moldova."), rigging of elections and vote-buying (: "Indeed, Moldova's election season was marred by massive Russian interference in both campaigns. This meddling included cyberattacks, planned espionage at diaspora polling stations, and the outright buying of votes."; : "Recent votes in the former Soviet states of Georgia and Moldova have been dogged by interference from Russian-backed elements.", "There is a suggestion that these efforts are part of Russia’s multifaceted hybrid warfare."), an alleged coup in February 2023 (: "The timely leak of classified information about Russia's attempts to organize a coup in Chisinau allowed the government to react quickly", page 49, see source's title) and energy blackmail and the energy crisis of 2022 and 2023 (same source and page as before: "Thanks to substantial financial aid from the EU, Moldova was able to survive Russia’s energy blackmail in 2022 and even break Gazprom's monopoly."). This source summarizes everything nicely: Moldova's Response to Hybrid Attacks: A Learning-by-doing Strategy, page 2, "In addition to the potential risks coming from Transnistria, Moldova has witnessed a series of new challenges over the past year and a half, ranging from false bomb alerts, cyber-attacks, and explosions in Transnistria to energy blackmail, paid protests, and Kremlin proxies operating in the autonomous region of Gagauzia. This is all alongside continuous disinformation campaigns.". Note that I've only looked at English-language sources, and several of these sources are written by Moldovans themselves. Here are some random academic sources that I didn't use above . I think no doubt remains that sources verify that Russia is waging hybrid warfare against Moldova. Do you agree that this article should cover this topic? Super Ψ Dro 12:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

December 29, 2024

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  • (Discuss) – Archie (TV serial) → Archie (miniseries) – This is a miniseries and is classified as such on IMDb. Another editor recently changed the parenthetical content of the page's title to "TV serial". This is not a serial. It's 4 episodes. Cannon, executive producer, refers to it as a miniseries in promo interviews, as do critics for the Boston Herald and Screen Rant for example. Yours6700 (talk) 00:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Gascon dialect → Gascon (language variety) – The precise classifcation of Gascon is controversial. While most scholars consider it to be a dialect of Occitan, Posner and Sala note that it is less comprehensible than Catalan (which is typically classified separately from Occitan) to other southern Occitan speakers. Moreover, Gascon has a standardized variety, Aranese, with official status in the Val d'Aran region of Catalonia, which differs from the literary standard of Occitan. Kristol 2023 asserts that Gascon was "already considered a specific language in the Middle Ages," and Carles and Glessgen 2024 refer to Occitan and Gascon as "two languages." As the terms "language" and "dialect" are ambiguous and somewhat subjective, linguists tend to circumvent extralinguistic polemics by using the term "language variety" to refer to a linguistic system. By characterizing Gascon as a "dialect," the current title appears to clash with Misplaced Pages's policy of neutrality by favouring a traditional but contested view. The term "language variety" would be a more useful characterization, as it would avoid the use of the ambiguous term "dialect," which tends to evoke social, historical, and political considerations rather than strictly linguistic ones. Conocephalus (talk) 15:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. cyberdog958 18:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 21:14, 18 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:40, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – FC Cetatea Suceava → CSM Cetatea Suceava – – After the dissolution of ACS Foresta Suceava in the summer of 2024, the Municipality of Suceava and the most important businessmen from Suceava County re-founded the local club as CSM Cetatea 1932 Suceava (full name). The new entity is considered now as the team of the city and the successor of the local football history.frf-ajf profile, facebook profile, radiotio.ro/foundation, history, local businessman, staff, municipality involvment, continuity. Suceava had only one important football team at one time, during the years, and at this moment the history of local football is very divided on wikipedia. Th football history of Suceava started with Cetatea Suceava in 1932, then in the 1950s and 1960s the team changed its name several times, then was re-founded as a football section of CSM Suceava, multi-sport club, where it was active until 1997, when Foresta Fălticeni, club owned by Eugen Huțu moved to Suceava and was renamed as Foresta Suceava. After 2004, the local club was re-founded as FC Cetatea Suceava (this page) and worked until 2010 when whitdrew from the league. In 2010, Rapid CFR (which was a team from the suburbs) was taking over by the Municipality of Suceava and renamed as ACS Foresta Suceava, the team was dissolved in 2024. Due to this history, I proposed only 3 main pages: 1. CSM Cetatea Suceava (CSM Suceava + FC Cetatea Suceava + Cetatea 1932, one article, keeping the foundation years and the corresponding denomination(s) 2. Foresta Fălticeni remain the same, team originally based in Fălticeni 3. ACS Foresta Suceava, remain the same, team that was known for almost its entire history as Rapid CFR Suceava, another team moved and renamed. The second step will be a merge between Cetatea Suceava (reunited page) and CSM Suceava, but I'll keep the entire history on this page, because Cetatea was the original team of Suceava, CSM was born by the took over of Cetatea (named Chimia at that time), by CSM Suceava multi-sport club. Rhinen (talk) 17:08, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Oloye Akin Alabi → ? – The subject, Akinola Alabi, is more commonly known by his full name rather than 'Oloye Akin Alabi.' 'Oloye' is an honorific title often used in Yoruba culture to signify a distinguished position or title. See it is not the name by which the subject is primarily recognized in most public and professional contexts. In major news outlets, professional profiles, and official documents, the full name 'Akinola Alabi' is predominantly used. For example, in various media reports and his official biography, his full name is consistently referred to, and it is the name most widely recognized in connection with his career and public service. The use of the full name also aligns with modern naming conventions and ensures clarity for readers seeking accurate information. A quick google search would show that all major publications on him dosent reflect oloye, but rather, his full name Cameremote (talk) 16:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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  • (Discuss) – 1925 Tri-State tornado → Great Tri-State Tornado – This is one of very few, if not the only, tornado where the name itself disambiguates it from others, so let's get rid of the year before it's 100th. Most sources don't use the year as the tornado's title - it's either Tri-State, or Great Tri-State. I'm going to let both be options favoring Great Tri-State so there's less room for ambiguation with other tri-state area tornadoes. Departure– (talk) 21:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Typhoon Ewiniar (2006) → Typhoon Ewiniar – Out of the three storms (2024, 2000, and 2006, this is the most powerful. (I'm going to exclude 2000, since it doesn't have a page). 2006 has more deaths, damages, and injuries than the 2024 version. The 2006 version affected five countries, while the 2024 version affected two countries. Since the 2006 version has more deaths, damages, injuries, and countries affected, it therefore has more coverage and popularity (and also historical impact). 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 00:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Matthew Shepard → Murder of Matthew Shepard – Per WP:DEATHS and WP:ONEEVENT. This is going to be controversial but still it should be done. He has no notability besides his murder. He became famous because he died and before that he was a complete unknown. People might say he has been notable in other things but that is only a consequence of being murdered. People should leave their emotional bias behind and look at the facts. Another option is to split an article called "Murder of Matthew Shepard” about the death itself while the notability and legacy will remain in the main article. Theparties (talk) 08:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Lingayatism → Lingayat Sect – There were prior attempts to move the page, but not with proper citations and references and hence were rejected. I propose the name change of Page to "Lingayat Sect" from "Lingayatism" once again. Lingayat is a sect not a religion. Every source mentions it as a sect and a community. Thank You!

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  2. https://tobychristie.com/nascar/cup-series/2025-nascar-cup-series-driver-team-chart/
  3. https://hyakmotorsports.com/pages/launching-soon
  4. frf-ajf.ro
  5. Rickershauser, Peter (March 1972). "Jersey Central had a great fall". Trains. Vol. 32, no. 5. pp. 20–28.
  6. Higgs, Larry (September 16, 2008). "Train tragedy memorialized". Asbury Park Press. p. 27. Retrieved December 23, 2024 – via Newspapers.com.
  7. https://www.jstor.org/stable/2844333
  8. https://officerspulse.com/2024/01/14/lingayats-veerashaivas/
  9. https://optimizeias.com/lingayat-sect/
  10. https://www.jstor.org/stable/41856366
  11. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Lingayat
PerspicazHistorian (talk) 12:49, 14 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Bærum mosque shooting → 2019 Bærum murder and mosque shooting – Pursuant to the discussion above, which no one responded to: I have been wanting to improve this article for two years, since it is entirely stuck in the breaking news aftermath of when it happened instead of the later coverage, but I am frustrated by its scope, which makes it difficult to reflect what non-breaking news sources cover about this case. While all of the breaking coverage focuses on the mosque shooting, later coverage tends to focus both on Ihle-Hansen's murder (see the books, the docuseries, later news coverage) with about equal weight to the mosque attack. This is a problem because there was a separate motive for the killing of his sister, the background for what lead up to this event heavily involves her, and the more severe sentence Manshaus received was for murdering Ihle-Hansen, not for the failed mosque shooting. This is very close to what the Norwegian wikipedia titles its article on this case. I would title it closer to what the books and documentaries do, but they are usually titled after Manshaus's name. I am open to other suggestions as I know this isn't perfect but I do feel that any title for this article needs to not strictly focus it on the mosque event. The year is optional, but according to WP:NCE if an event is not broadly known it should include the year. This event is not widely known outside of Norway, but if people feel otherwise it could be titled Bærum murder and mosque shooting (edit: a better target would be 2019 Bærum murder and mosque attack, as Cameron suggests) PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – 2024 Al-Mustariha massacre → 2024 Turkish airstrikes in Syria – Consistency. This article should be named like 2024 Homs airstrikes or April 2017 Turkish airstrikes in Syria and Iraq. Because these air strikes are organised for enemy sides of the perpetrator's and some civillians killed in those air strikes. This title means that Turkey only carries out air strike to massacre innocent civilians. However, this airstrike is only one of 191 airstrikes against the SDF-YPG, therefore we cannot seperate this air strike from other 190 air strikes. All of them are carried out within 2024. The content also mentions the death toll from other airstrikes. Also these airstrikes belongs to Hasakah province, Raqqa province and rural Aleppo. This title mentions 11 civilians in Raqqa province but how about other 6 civillian deaths in Hasakah province? If you look at death toll, military personnels also killed besides civillians and this means that Turkish Air Force didn't target civillians especially. Also it's ridiculous to target little amount of civillians in a village. If Turkish Air Force want to kill civillians, bombing big city centers is more efficient way like Israel did in Gaza Strip. Therefore that title is biased and we cannot named this event as a massacre just for killed civillians because more military personnels killed in these air strikes. Seondly, wikipedia there's a village named Mustariha and it's located at Idlib. However news says it's a village in the suburbs of Ain Issa. I cannot find location of the village. It's very interesting. All in all, this article should be moved to "2024 Turkish airstrikes in Syria" However we can use northern Syria but I'm not sure about geographic naming. Note: If the title I propose is appropriate, the content should be revised accordingly, because it gives the impression that the attack was made specifically for this village and targeted especially civillians in this village.--Sabri76' 17:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:10, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Template:NF → Template:NFLD – Most Canadian provinces have just one flag template named with the province's two-letter postal abbreviation as the template name; this one is a special case because the province's name was changed from just "Newfoundland" to Newfoundland and Labrador in 2001, necessitating separate "NF" and "NL" templates because the province name next to the (same) flag needs to be two different things based on whether it's a pre-2001 or post-2001 context.
    However, because the Spanish Misplaced Pages uses the template name "NF" as its basic "formatting the vital statistics of people on biographical articles" (birth year, death year, defaultsort name, etc.) template, there ends up being a constant need to monitor this template for incorrect "vital stats" uses on articles, drafts and user sandbox pages that have been translated or just copy-pasted over from Spanish.
    So because of that extenuating circumstance, I believe that there's a substantive case for treating this template as a special case that varies from the titles of its other provincial siblings to avoid that problem — and since "NF" is an old, no longer used postal abbreviation rather than the current one, the variant won't be nearly as difficult to justify as it would have been if the conflict were affecting "NL".
    Accordingly, I propose that this template use the province's original postal abbreviation "NFLD" instead of the two-letter transitional form "NF", with all of its (thankfully not that many) uses updated to the new name, and "NF" not retained as a redirect so that we stop having to deal with the flag of Newfoundland being wrongly placed at the bottom of Spanish and Mexican and Latin American biographies.
    Alternatively, if there's a way that "NL" could be coded to enable a "Newfoundland and Labrador" vs. "Newfoundland" switch, we could just add that and move all the NF uses to NL-with-switch, but I wouldn't know how to do that (or even if it's possible), although it might even be a better solution than moving this if it is possible. Bearcat (talk) 18:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Gwon Yul → Gwon Yul (general) – Seems to be a conflict between the two WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criteria. Gwon Yul currently does not meet the criteria for primary topic by usage WP:PT1: of the three ambiguous "Kwon Yul" articles, the army general is last in pageviews. Over the last year, the other two Kwon Yul articles have received an average monthly pageviews of around 15,000, while the army general has received only 1400. However, by WP:PT2 (long term significance), the army general is obviously the primary topic. Given the conflicting criteria, and what seems to be a very large pageview disparity between the army general and the other Kwon Yul articles (army general receiving 10x less traffic), I thought it'd be appropriate to open a discussion to see if the army general is indeed the primary topic or if there is WP:NOPRIMARY here. A move here would also involve retargeting the redirect left at Gwon Yul to Kwon Yul (which is the same name, 권율, just romanized slightly differently) RachelTensions (talk) 13:05, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
  • (Discuss) – Unknown Archon → ? – This "Unknown Archon" sounds like this is a proper name, but it's apparently not, this is just uppercase added to a translation of one of the general descriptions used in historiography about this story. The article is a bit of a mess - most of it is the lead section that doesn't actually summarize the body; half the body is a verbatim copy from a 20th-century translation of a 10th-century primary source, and then there's a few paragraphs which kind of say yeah none of this stuff in the lead is necessarily true true. So I don't really know if there's a good name for this topic, or if this small amount of context has potential - should it just be merged into a more general article? Joy (talk) 07:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 03:23, 1 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Feeglgeef (talk) 02:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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