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** ''']''' (these sources should be ''properly labelled''; that is, not under an "External links" header); and | |||
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**'''interesting''' to draw in a variety of readers, | |||
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**formatted as <nowiki>]</nowiki> and placed directly above the suggested fact. | |||
*Proposed lists should have two characteristics to be considered for DYK: (i) be a compilation of entries that are unlikely to have ever been compiled anywhere else (e.g. ]), and (ii) have 1,500+ character non-stub text that brings out interesting, relational, and referenced facts from the compiled list that may not otherwise be obvious but for the compilation.<!--needs work.--> | |||
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*...that ] ]er ''']''' holds the unusual distinction of having played both his debut and his final ]es and ]s against ] during ]? self nom, expanded today. Hopefully more than a stub, should be. Feel free to reword the hook, as the grammar can probably be improved. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that according to ''']''', ] is classified as below the level of "]", but slightly above the ] state of "]" ? self-nom, expanded from stub by ] (]) 09:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that children are more vulnerable than adults are to ''']''' because their chest walls are more flexible? -- moved from userspace today, self-nom by ] <small>]</small> 09:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ], ] and ] have all made notable contributions to the ''']'''? (self-nom) • <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><font color="#C00000">]''<small>]''</small></font></span> 07:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', with its landmark ] ] (''pictured''), is the oldest ] ] in ]? new article, self nom. ] (]) 06:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
**ALT: ...that the ] (], ] and ]) commissioned ] to paint 320-foot-long murals at the landmark ''']''' (''pictured'') in the 1920s? new article, self nom. by ] (]) 06:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', nominee for ] in ], washed dishes while participating in the college ] program at ] with future ] ]? --- self-nom ] (]) 14:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' of the ] attempted to ] a teammate to lose a game for ]500 during the ], and became one of the first players to be ] from ]? -- new article by {{user|Neonblak}}, nom. by ] (]) 09:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']'s''' Hillsman House still has bloodstains on its floor from the time it served as a hospital after the ] in April 1865? (created by ], expanded and hook by ], (self-nom) --] 06:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' (''pictured''), a 1928 Italian Rennaisance church in ], received a grant from the ] to preserve ]'s historic buildings? new article, self nom. ] (]) 06:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
**ALT: ...that ]'s ''']''' (''pictured'') was the site of ]'s wedding and funerals for ] and ]? new article, self nom. by ] (]) 06:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that hundreds of thousands of immigrants in ] were systematically granted citizenship under ''''']''''' in order for the ruling government to attain votes in the elections? ]<sup>]</sup> 05:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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**ALT:...that hundreds of thousands of immigrants in ] were systematically granted citizenship under ''''']''''' by the ruling government in order to alter the racialised voting pattern in their favour? ]<sup>]</sup> 09:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ] and ] have motivated two of the several ''']''' in the ]? • <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><font color="#C00000">]''<small>]''</small></font></span> | |||
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*...that the first wife of ] Governor ''']''' printed notices accusing him of having a ]? -- new article self-nom by --'']'' <sup>]</sup> 01:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that the ''']''' (''pictured''), discovered in 1909, is the only natural ] found on the mainland of ]? -- new article self-nom by ] (]) 01:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:*Google shows 1340 hits for "mainland of Singapore", but non-Singaporeans will be confused because a "mainland" isn't usually an island. I suggest "main island of Singapore". ] (]) 01:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::*Thank u for your feedback & suggestion -- ] (]) 02:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::*'''Revised''' >> ...that the ''']''' (''pictured''), discovered in 1909, is the only natural ] found on the main island of ]? -- new article self-nom by ] (]) 02:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ] of ] probably triggered a 18-year period of severe cooling? -- new article self-nom by ] (]) 00:26, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] The article is far too short and the hook is not a fact. ] (]) 00:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ]'s largest ] and ] of ocean-going ]s, ''']''', has a fleet of 84 ]s? -- new article self-nom by <span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;">]<sup style="font-size : 6pt ;">]</sup></span> 22:03, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ...that ]-nominated screenwriter ''']''' considered leaving show business shortly before being offered her first full-time position writing for '']''? (expanded article, self-nom) <span style="font-family:verdana">] </span><small>(] con])</small> 19:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ...that ] accidently left the ''''']''''', a $4 million violin, in the back of a ] ]? -- Self-nom ] (]) 17:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ...that ], the prince of ], crushed ] forces at the ''']''', leading to Later Yan's decline and Northern Wei's rise? (self-nomination) --] (]) 15:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the seeds of ''''']''''' are dispersed by ants, who interpret the seeds as corpses? --Recently expanded; self-nom; also some nice photos <span style="color:#008000;font-family:times, sans serif;">] (])</span> 15:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that gallery owner ''']''' described ]—now famous for art which includes explicit and distorted mannequins—as an "adorable" baby sitter? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by ''''']''''' 03:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that after competing for many years on a world-class level in the ], ] athlete ''']''' tried to specialize in the ]? -- created, expanded (text body went from 300 to 4000 characters without spaces) and nominated by ] (]) 08:48, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''' accounts for around 15-30% of all plastic component failures in service? -- new article by ]; Nom by ] | ] 14:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''', the novelist, poet, ] and lyricist was the first ] to win an English ] in ]? -- Self-nomination ] (]) 18:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', the first ] ] of ], chided ]'s ] for his jokes about "beautiful downtown Bakersfield" and invited Carson to visit the city to see its improvements? -- self-nom ] (]) 23:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that young shoots of the ornamental Australian tree ''''']''''' ''(pictured)'' give off an odour of ] when broken? ''self-nom. Cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 02:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', a ] in the ]n state of ] once infamous for reports of ], is now the official residence of senior state politician ]? <small>(sn) --<span style="font-family:Georgia">] (])</span> 13:56, 24 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | |||
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*...that some called it a ] when more than 750 giant ] weighing up to 1,000 pounds brought prosperity to ]'s fishermen and their church, ''']''' (''pictured'')? new article, self nom.] (]) 05:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', a colorless ] commonly used for ]-containing compounds, is also a potent ], but this application has been discouraged because it is too ]? -- new article by {{user|Kilojoule}}, nom. by ] (]) 05:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' ''(pictured)'' held the first ] in the U.S. state ]? -- article by {{User|AltioraPeto}}, nom by ] 04:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that according to the World Bank's Private Participation in Infrastructure database, investment commitments in ''']''' sector reached US$ 5.7 billion in 1993-2005? By ]. Nom by <span style="border:1px solid brown;padding:1px;">]</span> ] 22:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that Australian cabaret singer, stage actor, dancer and comedienne ''']''' was nicknamed "Lolly-Legs Lamond" after being voted as having the second-best pair of legs in television while doing '']''? (self-nom) ] 11:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ] law required the commissioning of unflattering ]es, ''''']''''' ''(preparatory drawing pictured)'', on the exterior of the ] of those found in ] for financial offenses? ] 03:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that priest ''']''' was such a controversial figure in 19th century ] that his possible nomination to ]ry was rejected for three different ]s? ] (]) 02:31, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ] ] ''']''' helped purchase fellow poet ]'s freedom from ] in 1838? self nom ] 00:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' boasted to have sent American units away from ] in ] to fix the liberation of the city to ] and then in ] he (together with ]) became the most popular politician of ]? self-nom--] (]) 22:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:*...that ''']''' boasted he had kept American units away from ] in ], allowing the liberation of the city by the ], and then in ] he and ] became the most popular politicians of the ]? ] (]) 23:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' ''(pictured)'', known to native peoples as Shonitkwu ("roaring or noisy waters"), lies silenced beneath the waters of ]? self-nom on article content split from ] and expanded ] (]) 20:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ] agreed to compose the musical score for the ballet ''''']''''' only under the condition that the elephants performing it be very young? self-nom--] (]) 20:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' is set to return this week on ] after a 15-year absence from the show? | |||
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:...that ]'s ''']''' who returns this week is ]'s ]'s aunt? | |||
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::...that if you thought ]'s ''']''' has been gone from the soap scene for 15 years, she appeared on ] from 2001–2003? | |||
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*...that both ] and ] refused to hand out ''']''', a political tactic common in Pennsylvania, during that state's ]? (self-nom, self-created) --] (]) 19:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:*...that the ''']''' in ] ''(pictured)'' is the only known surviving sign of its kind in the ] of ]? | |||
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:*...that the ], ] ''']''' ''(pictured)'' is the only one of its kind with its own listing on the U.S. ]? Created and suggested by ], photo from ] -] (]) 19:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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::*] Qualifies. As a fan of the short and sweet, I'd go for the first one - it'll draw people in. Beautiful picture by the way! <font face="Kristen ITC">''']''' <sup>'']''</sup></font> 23:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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* ...that ] dissident ''']''' was the leader of the ] faction which rebelled against ]'s ] rule of ] in 1551? self-nom, <font color="404040">]</font> 18:54, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ] director ]'s 1982 award-winning film ''''']''''' depicting life in ] ] was banned in ] along with all her other works because it was filmed in ], an area under the control of the ]? - new article, self-nom ] (]) 06:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:*Alternately: ...that ] actor ] was offered his first major film role in the acclaimed 1982 drama ''''']''''' depicting life in communist ] only after ] turned it down? ] (]) 16:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', a member of the ] from ] from ]–], left the ] after he was defeated for ] in a ] single-member district? -- self-nom ] (]) 08:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', a ] who served in the ] from ] from ]–], began his working career as a clerk in a store? -- self-nom ] (]) 04:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that when it was built in ], the ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was the first quarantine hospital in the United States? (selfnom) --] <sup>(])</sup> 15:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', a Hindi film in which ] did ], was the last film with him as playback singer to be released before his death? -- Self nom by ] • <sup>'']''</sup> 17:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::'''Or''': ...that ''']''' was the last film to be released before the death of ], who did ] for it? ] • <sup>'']''</sup> 17:36, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' ''(Palace of Mirrors)'' in ] was originally decorated with ]es that were later replaced with ] and ] glass and mirror ]? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by <i><font color="green">]</font><b><font color="blue">]</font></b><sup>]</sup></i> 11:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that the distinctive ]s created for ''']''' ''(pictured)'' are among the earliest examples of ] used to forge a ] identity? -- new article self-nom by ] (]) 02:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ] film ''''']''''' is based on the real life story of ]'s women's ] team which won ] at the ], and is also the first film to revolve around the sport of handball? self nom by ] (]) 00:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the first ever ''']''' was a gift from ]n ruler Altyn Khan to ] ]? article by {{User|Brandmeister}}; nom--] (]) 22:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''', a ] ], dates back to 700 CE? <small>article by {{user1|Fowler&fowler}}; nom by </small> - ] <sup> ''']'''</sup> 21:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''' fought as an ] ] in ], but was ] as a ] citizen during ]? ] (]) 13:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC) (self nom). | |||
*...that the ] was established in ] instead of ''']''', partly because its founder regarded Cardiff as having "a non-] population"? ''Article by ]; nominated by ] (]) 12:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC).'' <small>The "in 1916" could be dropped as it is not specifically mentioned in the article, but the hook would then be less "History of Cardiff"-ish. Alternative wording welcomed!</small> | |||
*...that ''']''' (], ]), is the largest island in the ] and was at one time also called One-Eyed Island in reference to the disability of Algonquin chief ]? -- ] (]) 12:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ]s in the '']'' gene may cause ''']''', a rare ] with diverse ] problems, such as ], ]s and ]s, ]al degeneration and ]? -- new article by {{user|Rcej}}, nom. by ] (]) 05:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that in May 2007 ''']''' ''(pictured)'' became the first Catholic church in the ] to have a married priest? new article, self nom. ] (]) 23:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''', also known as the "strangler of ]", who murdered four women in ] in ], was pardoned in ] and celebrated as a hero? Self-nom ] (]) 22:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was originally given the name at birth of '''''George Washington Caldwell''''' because he was born on the Fourth of July? New Article (self-nom) ] <sup>]</sup> 21:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...the ''']''' is where the saxophonist composed many of his later works including the masterwork, ''A Love Supreme''? self-nom by --] <sup>(])</sup> 17:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:*Not long enough. You need 1500 characters of main text, and you only have 1091.--] 17:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::*You're at 1456, with the threshold being 1500. Like horseshoes and handgrenades, this might be close enough.--] 19:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::I added a little bit, too. How do you count the words in an article, when using Firefox browser, by the way? I know i could copy and paste it over into a Word doc and use that to count, but what is easy way for DYK evaluating? ] (]) 23:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::I copy and paste to a Word document. Whichever software you use, the most time-consuming part is removing headings, images and captions, tables of contents, and edit buttons before counting. You count characters (with spaces), not words. ] (]) 01:55, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm counting 1604, with just the body of the page. --] <sup>(])</sup> 16:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ] musical group ''']''' sang solely in ] before the arrival of lead vocalist Irini Douka in 2002, which led to a focus on ] songs? - I'd like the article to be in the section for something, Any other ides? I worked very hard. Article expanded like you wouldn't believe and self-nom by ] (]) 16:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the history of ''']''' began in 1794 when the first ] in ] was delivered to the capital ] but that the press was destroyed before it could be used? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by ] (]) 14:08, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''', an ]-turned-] doctor, was the founder of the ], the first national science association of India? (self-nom) --] (]) 10:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ...that the ] ] ''']''' tried to use a centuries-old strategy from the ] against ]'s army, with disastrous consequences? (self-nomination) --] (]) 05:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that no other county in ] had as many ] winners than ''']'''? (self-nom)--] 03:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:*] Length and ref verified, but the hook's link is rather misleading. <small>]</small>] 04:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::*Yeah, I know, but I couldn't think of a better one. Anyone have ideas?--] 05:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:*''(alt hook)''...that ''']''' attained more ] than those from any other county in ]? (self-nom)--] 05:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::*(alt)...that the ''']''', which honors ] soldiers of the ], is in ], home to more ] recipients than any other state county? This hook is a bit long though, and the "more winners" fact is more to do with the county than the monument. Is there more interesting info about the monument? 05:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*(alt)...that the ''']''' of ] honors ] soldiers of Glasgow and ], who won more ]s than those of any other ] county?--] 16:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:*How's that?--] 16:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ...that ''']''' was at one time ]'s largest multipurpose ]? -- created and self-nom by ] (]) 05:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ] daughter, ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was saved from being dragged over a cliff by a horse by her future husband, the Russian born concert pianist, ]? -- self-nom ] (]) 20:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that there is a controversy over the involvement of ] in the ] ''']''' of Polish civilians? --article by ], nom by <sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 00:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that the ''']''' (''pictured'') was renovated in a variety of different ] to depict the evolution of the oldest house in ]? Self-nom, after I expanded what ] created, with some help from ]. ] (]) 10:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that the inscription eulogising ''']''', a 7th century ] warrior, records the earliest example of ] ] '']''? <small>article started by {{user1|KNM}}; 5+ fold recent expansion by {{user1|Fowler&fowler}}; nom by </small> - ] <sup> ''']'''</sup> 16:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*:'''ALT''': ...that the ''']''', eulogising a 7th century ] warrior, records the earliest example of the ] '']'', in the ]? - ] <sup> ''']'''</sup> 16:19, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that the ''']''', numbered ]000001 ''(pictured)'', was issued to ] on ], ] for "the making of ]"? -- new article by {{user|Yashbhavnan}}, nom. by ] (]) 07:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that the ] appointment of ''''']''''' ''(pictured)'', nominally as a personal servant, was given to a wide range of artists, musicians, poets and others, including ]? redirect until April 15, stub till 20th, by ] and self-nom. Or there is a crash pic. ] (]) 23:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ''']''' is the earliest representation of the ancient Greek ] ]? self nom Twospoonfuls (]) 19:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that guests on the American ] television series ''''']''''' (1967–1971) included ], African musician ], and ] leader ]? - ] | ] 01:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC) (self-nom) | |||
** I know the article is barely over the minimum length; information about the show is very hard to come by, and I believe that even at this short length this is probably the most extensive online piece about the show. - ] | ] 01:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
** Alternate hook: *...that ]'s television series ''''']''''' (1967–1971), the only nationally broadcast ] television series of its time, was hosted by an openly ] man, ]? - ] | ] 15:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' was the first illustrator of ]'s novel '']'' ''(pictured)''? (self-nom; new article) ] (]) 22:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that photographer ''']''' was at a New Year's Party when he was notified that ] had taken over Cuba, and arrived at the scene before dawn? New article by ]]]] 19:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ] ] ''']''' helped ] ] and ] overcome personal crises and helped ] stay ] and focused as he scored 319 in the ]? ] (]) 17:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:'''Alternate hook''' *...that ''']''', the ] ] ] of the ] was married in a ] in an ] in ]? ] (]) 17:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ''']''' was ranked number one in the world by the ] in 1997 and 2000? -- new article self-nom by ] ] 15:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ...that the ] ] ''']''' was nearly killed in the same imperial guard riot that killed fellow chancellor ]? (self-nomination, expansion) --] (]) 15:44, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ''']''' is the 13th-largest oil field in ], and of the top twenty California oil fields in size, it is the most recent to be discovered (1947)? By ]. Nom by <span style="border:1px solid brown;padding:1px;">]</span> ] 14:38, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ] ] ''']''' was selected as American League rookie pitcher of the year in ], but never pitched another full season due to injury? | |||
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:*...that ] ] ''']''' was traded five times from ] to ]? | |||
:Article created on April 20 by myself. Self-nomination. ] ] <sup> Go ] </sup> 14:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that in May 1899, less than 18 months after he led the ] to an ] victory over ] in 1897–08, ] ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was committed to a ]? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by ]\<sup>]</sup> 13:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' ''(pictured)'', a ] in Kent, is a ]? New article created on 20 April and self-nom by ] (]) 08:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ]'s ], has a pivotal character based on real-life photographic artist ] who also makes narrative fictions? -- new article ] (]) 07:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:*...that the title of Paul Auster's ] is borrowed from the ] that ] used as a metaphor for the State in his own ]? ] (]) 00:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:*...that the hero of ]'s ] echoes the Unabomber, urban terrorist ] who was active when the novel was being written? ] (]) 00:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ...that, at one point during the ] of ''']''', he served in over 40 posts simultaneously? (self-nomination, expansion) --] (]) 05:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
** Alternative hook: ...that Pei Rou, the wife of the ] ] ''']''', was a prostitute before marrying him? --] (]) 05:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that from 1787 to 1793, American music printer ''']''' was the only publisher of ] in the United States? (self-nom; new article) <small>]</small>] 05:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:*(alt)...that music printer ''']''' published the first American collection of Catholic music? (self-nom; new article) <small>]</small>] 05:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ] in his book ''''']''''' rejected the notion that after ] alternative energy will be able continue the industry in the same way as it is at present? | |||
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:*...that ] in his book ''''']''''' gives the scientific view that the age of petroleum is coming to an end? (self-nom; new article) ''']''' (]) 00:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:*...that '']'' described ]'s work ''''']''''' as an "alarming little book"? ''']''' (]) 01:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ] ''(pictured)'' philosophical work ''''']''''' (1793) argues that the existence of governments indicates that people are not yet ready to rely on their reason to regulate their conduct? (self-nom; new article) ] (]) 00:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' ''(pictured)'', the only ] church in ], is threatened by ] caused by the salty sea breeze from nearby ]? (Five-fold expansion & self-nom) --] (]) 17:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that Lt. ''']''' ''(pictured)'', FRGS, a veteran of the ] and an explorer with the East African Syndicate, was the first ] to gain an audience with the ], in 1906, and led two expeditions to ]? -- ] (]) 23:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''' (]-]), an ] minister in ], was among the founders of the ] ] in ]?-- self-nom ] (]) 13:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that Adam Caperton, the father of ] ] ], was killed at the ''']''' near ], ]? (145 characters; article written by {{IPuser|72.74.195.64}} at ], article created by {{user|Yngvarr}} per ], nom. by {{user|Black Falcon}}) <small>07:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | |||
:*...that Monk Estill, who was captured by the ] prior to the ''']''' and escaped during the battle, was the first ] to be freed in the ]? (169 characters; article written by {{IPuser|72.74.195.64}} at ], article created by {{user|Yngvarr}} per ], nom. by {{user|Black Falcon}}) <small>07:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | |||
*...that the ''']''', consecrated in 1936, is the largest ] church building in ]? (119 characters; article by {{user|Anyo Niminus}}, nom. by {{user|Black Falcon}}) <small>07:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | |||
:*''(alt.hook)''...that the grounds of the ''']''' in ] contain the remains of thousands of bombing victims of ]? (125 characters; article by {{user|Anyo Niminus}}, nom. by {{user|Black Falcon}}) <small>07:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | |||
*...that the travel time of the ] ''''']''''' on the strecth of the ] known as Little Dalles was six hours upriver, but less than seven minutes downriver? (170 characters; article by {{user|Mtsmallwood}}, nom. by {{user|Black Falcon}}) 07:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ] ] ''']''' caught the fourth of ]'s seven career ]s? | |||
**...that ] ] ''']''' tied an ] record with 19 ]s in a nine-inning game and set another with 21 in an ]? (5x expansion, self-nom. Personally i like the first hook better. ] 05:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)) | |||
*...that there are over 43 languages spoken round ''']''' in ], ]? | |||
:* Alt: ...that ''']''' in ], ], was used as a ] for over 400 years before being converted for public use in 1908-1910? | |||
:: First DYK suggested by ]; the other one is mine. New article, self nom. ] (]) 21:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ''']''' is the basic operating unit of ] in ], ]? -- new article by {{user|Mafia Expert}}, nom. by ] (]) 05:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] Length and reference again check out, but again I find the same text as the source. Hold until we're sure it's been rewritten. ] (]) 15:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ''']''', founded by ] in 1144 up in the ] mountains, used to hold annual conferences attended by '']'' ]es of ], ]? -- new article by {{user|Mafia Expert}}, nom. by ] (]) 05:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:*...that the ''']''', founded in 1144 up in the ] mountains, is a meeting place for '']'' ]es of ], ]? -- ] (]) 07:38, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
: Still ''is''? Even after the 1969 raids? Whoa... They are bold.... :-) --] (]) 08:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::] Length and reference verified, but in the course of doing so I found the prose around the hook was lifted verbatim from the source. We need to change it. ] (]) 15:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was one of the most important exponents of ], composing over 2,300 pieces during his life? <small>(new, self)</small>] ] 05:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] Too short. ] (]) 15:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''', a medieval convent in Germany, (''pictured'') has the world's oldest surviving example of ] eyeglasses? (changed per suggestion below) <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 04:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
: Sounds like "Kloster Wienhausen" is a person who owns those eyeglasses. Qualifiers, such as "a medieval convent in Germany", are recommended? --] (]) 17:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::] Length and reference verified. Adding qualifier. ] (]) 15:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''', at age 15 years 158 days on 16 September 1929, became the joint youngest player to appear in the ]? (self-nom; new article) ] (]) 00:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
**the expression "to be tied for" might help this awkwardness. --] (]) 16:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
***...that at 15 years and 156 days, ''']''' became the youngest player to appear in ] in 1929? (changed). ] (]) 21:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::] Length and reference verified. ] (]) 15:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''' are highlighted by the approximately 10,000 French nationals and a Marine Infantry Battalion stationed in ]? (self nom, created article by--] (]) 17:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] No citation for hook fact. Plus, I think the wording could be better. ] (]) 15:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''', ], was the last ] in Kent working commercially by wind when it closed in the autumn of 1970? New article created on 19 April and self-nom by ] (]) 16:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] Just long enough, but hook fact is uncited. ] (]) 14:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ...that the ] ] ''']''' first endeared ] by explaining the '']'' and the '']'' to Emperor Xuanzong? (self-nomination, expansion) --] (]) 14:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::<small>Or, how about,</small> "that the ] ] ''']''' first endeared himself to ] by explaining the '']'' and the '']''? <small>] (]) 01:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | |||
:::] Length verified; source is in Chinese so someone familiar with that language will have to verify. ] (]) 14:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ] 1831 short story "''']'''" features an ] ] who meets a ]-eating ]? (Expanded but not created by me, so self-nom. --] (]) 12:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)) | |||
:] Length and reference (should use the original story on Wikisource) verified. ] (]) 14:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
] | |||
*...that ''']''' ''(pictured)'' was the first ] in ] to have a ] installed as auxiliary power? New article created on 19 April and self-nom by ] (]) 10:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
] | |||
*...that ''']''' ''(pictured)'', for whom the ] ] collection for domestic ] is named, resigned from the missionary organization she founded vowing never to serve the SBC again? -- Article self-nom by --] (]) (]) 06:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ] ''']''' holds both the ]n and ] records in both the ] and ]? -- self-nom, expanded by ] (]) 09:58, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:*] - Not expanded fivefold within the last 5 days. ] (]) 22:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::*Wasn't this article expanded from 1,637 bytes 34,474 bytes on 19 April? That seems like much, much more than a five-fold expansion to me. ] (]) 23:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::*We count prose only, but 645 bytes to 19,180 bytes is also more than a fivefold expansion. ] (]) 00:26, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Then the delete vote for this article is null and void then. ] (]) 03:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::Sorry guys my mistake, I'm new to this thing. It has to be a pass. ]. ] (]) 13:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*...that ''']''' ''(see map, right)'' contained 207 ] in April 1620, of which 73 were ]ed males? -- self-nom by creator ] (]) 15:14, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
: ''only'' 73? --] (]) 08:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:: that's what the source says - see citation in article ---] (]) 14:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
] | |||
*...that the ''']''' ''(pictured)'' in ], was expanded to six lanes only 16 years after it was completed? (self, expansion) ] (]) 19:42, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that the ''']''' in ], was designed by ] who was both a bridge engineer and an attorney? (self) ] (]) 05:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
: Let's hide the fact that he's a bridge engineer. :) Just mention the attorney part! The hook will be more catchy. --] (]) 17:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::I would suggest putting that in the article and citing it first, as well. ] (]) 14:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Expiring noms == | |||
=== Articles created/expanded on April 18 === | |||
*...''']''' and head coach ] rebuilt the Argonauts team that had gone 2-14 the prior season into a team that won the ] championships in both of Eddy's seasons there and won the ] in 1983? -- new article by ]; Nom by ] | ] 04:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] Fact isn't in cited source. ] (]) 04:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...''']''' was first Canadian to break 9144m (30,000ft.) in a sailplane? -- new article by ]; Nom by ] | ] 04:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] Cited source doesn't say anything about this. ] (]) 04:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*...that ''']''', former manager of the large Pitchfork ] in ], spent his later years preserving western buildings for the benefit of future generations?--self-nom ] (]) 04:52, 19 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] Article has issues with self-published sources that should be cleared up before this is used, if it is. ] (]) 17:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
==See also== | |||
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Instructions for nominators
ShortcutIf this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.
Frequently asked questions
How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
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- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
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How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on October 31
Details Cannot Body Wants
( )- ... that Singapore's first R-rated play was performed despite the police finding it "offensive"?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The article mentions the Public Entertainment Licensing Unit, which is part of the Singapore Police Force. Source: https://www.police.gov.sg/e-Services/Police-Licences/Public-Entertainment-Licence
Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 06:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: @Imbluey2: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting. I made a few minor copyedits to the article. The article doesn't actually say anything about how the police were involved, so that should be added. The reader will be looking for the police connection. Also, the copyvio detector is at violation possible 49.5% with one of the sources, so some of the stuff highlighted in red there will need to be revised first. Just one more minor thing, I don't think Singapore needs to be bolded in the hook. I think it looks better as "that Singapore's first R-rated play was performed despite the police finding it "offensive"?" Nice work on the article! ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 21:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- The nominator hasn't edited in a few days and didn't respond to the above. Asking if fellow Singaporean DYK regulars Kingoflettuce or ZKang123 can help out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Imbluey2: Please respond to the above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't receive the ping for some odd reason. Anyways, should I just add a footnote in the article explaining that the Entertainment licensing unit is now part of the police? I'll change the stuff that (potentially) violates copyright.
- That will work but I think it would be better if the police part was added to the actual body in prose instead of just footnoted. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Added it. As for the potential copyright violations, I don't know if I can decrease it much since the texts that are in "violation" are either common phrases or quotes from different sources. But I'll try Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 12:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9:?
- Looks like the copyvio tool still doesn't like some of that stuff. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: got it to 38.7%, which isn't considered a violation. Do you want me to decrease it further? Also, do you think the hook should have an image of the cast? It's in the article as external media but I believe it qualifies under WP: NFC
- That still seems a tad high unfortunately. Could you reword stuff a little more and get it to under 20%? Also, only fully-free images are allowed on the main page. Non-free images are not allowed there. Thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:06, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: done. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 03:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Imbluey2: That looks good now. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:04, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: done. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 03:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- That still seems a tad high unfortunately. Could you reword stuff a little more and get it to under 20%? Also, only fully-free images are allowed on the main page. Non-free images are not allowed there. Thanks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:06, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: got it to 38.7%, which isn't considered a violation. Do you want me to decrease it further? Also, do you think the hook should have an image of the cast? It's in the article as external media but I believe it qualifies under WP: NFC
- Looks like the copyvio tool still doesn't like some of that stuff. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9:?
- Added it. As for the potential copyright violations, I don't know if I can decrease it much since the texts that are in "violation" are either common phrases or quotes from different sources. But I'll try Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 12:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- That will work but I think it would be better if the police part was added to the actual body in prose instead of just footnoted. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't receive the ping for some odd reason. Anyways, should I just add a footnote in the article explaining that the Entertainment licensing unit is now part of the police? I'll change the stuff that (potentially) violates copyright.
- @Imbluey2: Please respond to the above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- The nominator hasn't edited in a few days and didn't respond to the above. Asking if fellow Singaporean DYK regulars Kingoflettuce or ZKang123 can help out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
@Imbluey2 and WikiOriginal-9: the source just says that PELU found parts of the play offensive and blacked those out, not that they found the entire play offensive. Could the hook be updated to match? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 16:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- The 4th excerpt of the source says "it was only Chin's play that was deemed "offensive" by the Public Entertainment Licensing Unit"" so I'm not sure the hook is wrong. Though the last excerpt also says "certain passages which were marked out by Pelu as "offensive", so if you want to revise it feel free. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I don't mind to be honest, feel free to change it. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 02:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note that the nomination is already over two months old; as such, the nomination will be marked for closure if the issues are not addressed within a reasonable timeframe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Singapore's first R-rated play was performed despite the police finding parts of it "offensive"?
- Sources: https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/straitstimes19920909-1.2.63.3.1]
@Narutolovehinata5: ALT1 added. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 1
Tel al-Sultan attack
( )... that American missiles were used to bomb a displacement camp in Rafah?
- Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/world/middleeast/israel-us-rafah-bombs.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/14/world/europe/carnage-and-contradiction-examining-a-deadly-strike-in-rafah.html
- Reviewed:
Personisinsterest (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC).
- I'd like to propose some alternative hooks, if that's okay:
ALT1: ... that the "Kuwaiti Peace" tent camp, struck by Israeli fighter jets, was located only 200 meters from the largest UNRWA humanitarian aid storage warehouse in the Gaza Strip?Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-rockets-central-israel-gaza-strip-sirens/- ALT2:... that a viral image showing tents in Rafah arranged to spell "All Eyes on Rafah" called for global attention to the humanitarian crisis following the Tel al-Sultan attack? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/world/middleeast/all-eyes-on-rafah.html
ALT3: ... that the Tel al-Sultan attack was the deadliest incident of the Rafah offensive?Source: https://www.axios.com/2024/05/27/rafah-tent-camp-strike-biden-israel-red-line
- @Personisinsterest, Smallangryplanet, and Davidbena: I loathe the Israel-Palestine topic area on a cellular level, but I need a QPQ and this is the oldest nom, so once more unto the breach. This is long enough, new enough, and does not incur a QPQ. ALT2 is the only hook to meet WP:DYKINT (the others are bogstandard features of war) and I have struck the others. There is way too much close paraphrasing in this article for this even to have got through GA, never mind this, and this will need to be addressed before this can run; as this is already past WP:DYKTIMEOUT, I will close this after a week if this is not fixed.--Launchballer 16:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Special:Contribs/Launchballer, I totally agree with you. I am not happy with the current DYK, as it purports to highlight Israel as the main antagonist in this ongoing war, a war that was forced upon Israel. There ought to be more balance in this article. Balance is lacking. I would agree to forego the DYK.Davidbena (talk) 16:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do the sources highlight Israel as the main antagonist? If so, WP:NPOV is met.--Launchballer 17:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- The news media outlet, Al Jazeera, is cited a handful of times, which has a clear bias against Israel. Mostly, however, the writer(s) of this article are "cherry-picking" their sources to portray Israel in a bad light, even though Israeli claims about the same incident in question is that the camp was next to some kind of incendiary ordinance planted there or some arms storage facility which caught afire and caused most of the unwanted deaths. It all comes down to lack of balance, as the writing comes across as being marked by an unfair animus against the IDF in a war that was imposed upon it.Davidbena (talk) 03:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:ALJAZEERA says that Al Jazeera is generally reliable, though might have some bias on this topic. I think we satisfied WP:DUE in the article, where we cited that source. Regardless of the broader context of the war, there's no way to discuss this incident without mentioning Israel's role. I'm also not sure about WP:CLOP being an issue here as it's an essay, not an official policy. @Personisinsterest and Abo Yemen: can you both chime in here about this? Smallangryplanet (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- The news media outlet, Al Jazeera, is cited a handful of times, which has a clear bias against Israel. Mostly, however, the writer(s) of this article are "cherry-picking" their sources to portray Israel in a bad light, even though Israeli claims about the same incident in question is that the camp was next to some kind of incendiary ordinance planted there or some arms storage facility which caught afire and caused most of the unwanted deaths. It all comes down to lack of balance, as the writing comes across as being marked by an unfair animus against the IDF in a war that was imposed upon it.Davidbena (talk) 03:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do the sources highlight Israel as the main antagonist? If so, WP:NPOV is met.--Launchballer 17:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Special:Contribs/Launchballer, I totally agree with you. I am not happy with the current DYK, as it purports to highlight Israel as the main antagonist in this ongoing war, a war that was forced upon Israel. There ought to be more balance in this article. Balance is lacking. I would agree to forego the DYK.Davidbena (talk) 16:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Personisinsterest, Smallangryplanet, and Davidbena: I loathe the Israel-Palestine topic area on a cellular level, but I need a QPQ and this is the oldest nom, so once more unto the breach. This is long enough, new enough, and does not incur a QPQ. ALT2 is the only hook to meet WP:DYKINT (the others are bogstandard features of war) and I have struck the others. There is way too much close paraphrasing in this article for this even to have got through GA, never mind this, and this will need to be addressed before this can run; as this is already past WP:DYKTIMEOUT, I will close this after a week if this is not fixed.--Launchballer 16:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 2
Eastern Venus
( ) Eastern Venus at Kobe- ... that on the ship Eastern Venus (pictured), the "Modern" suite is not in modern style?
- Reviewed:
UserMemer (chat) Tribs 21:03, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
- A fairly interesting and well-written article that is both new and long enough. However, I have serious reservations about its sourcing. photoguide.jp or scheepvaartwest.be or cruisewonderland.tiyogami don't strike me as the most reliable, and this article is wholly dependent on such sources. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 10:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the aforementioned self-published sources and found better citations; all unsupported claims were removed. In addition, I removed "Castles of the Seas" as it is obviously self-published too. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 22:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Please address the above.--Launchballer 02:47, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies for the late response! It looks better, although a lot of the material still hinges on primary sources like VesselFinder. Apart from Cruise Industry News, do we have more reliable "third-party" coverage? At the same time, I'm not sure how picky one ought to be with cruise-related articles, so I think I could pass this if there really isn't anything else. Best, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 10:09, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Memer15151: The nomination will be two months old in a few days, so if there are any remaining issues, please respond to them as soon as possible as the nomination may be marked for closure if they aren't addressed soon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- It seems there has been some new secondary news coverage recently. I'll work on incorporating this new information into the article. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 13:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: I have found news coverage and added three new news sources to the article, corroborating the information about the latest cruise; Cyprus Shipping News, Maeil Business Newspaper, and Travel and Tour World. Hopefully, this is sufficient. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 03:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Pinging regarding the above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for the late response! It looks better, although a lot of the material still hinges on primary sources like VesselFinder. Apart from Cruise Industry News, do we have more reliable "third-party" coverage? At the same time, I'm not sure how picky one ought to be with cruise-related articles, so I think I could pass this if there really isn't anything else. Best, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 10:09, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Please address the above.--Launchballer 02:47, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed the aforementioned self-published sources and found better citations; all unsupported claims were removed. In addition, I removed "Castles of the Seas" as it is obviously self-published too. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 22:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Oscar Goodman (basketball)
( )- ... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree since 2002?
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- This has likely not been promoted because the "global ... honoree" bit is pretty indecipherable. TonyTheTiger, would it be possible for you to compose a new hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- would changing global to worldwide be satisfactory?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only 1st team all-tournament honoree in a worldwide basketball tournament since 2002?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Haven't checked the article, but the above wording should address the ambiguity given the context provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 15
Retelling
( )- ... that retelling of classic tales is a common occurrence? Source: https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/publications/retelling-stories-across-time-and-cultures
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Overall, the article meets all the criteria for warranting a DYK blurb, and QPQ has been satisfied, but I'm concerned that your proposed hook, in my opinion, doesn't seem that interesting or attention-grabbing. Do you think there's something else interesting you could bring up about retelling aside from how common it is? JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Sure. How about: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- ... that retelling of stories has led to emergence of, among others, feminist retellings focusing on previously marginalized or inexistent female characters?
- Piotrus, that definitely sounds more interesting, though if I could make an edit to the phrasing, maybe something like:
- ... that the feminist retelling of stories can focus on previously nonexistent or marginalized female characters?
- Let me know if this sounds good to you. JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Yep, it does :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great! I have no further concerns and will go ahead and approve that alt. JJonahJackalope (talk) 15:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Returned from Q7 per this post at WP:ERRORS as both article and hook need further work. Gatoclass (talk) 22:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Neither me nor the reviewer were pinged and we just noticed this - please WP:ECHO relevant editors in the future, if you could. This seems like a very minor issue; I've added "nonexistent or marginalized" to the article body (fair point those words should be used there, thanks for noticing I forgot to elaborate there on this issue). Regarding the sentence " properly retold story should convince the reader to see the new version as more correct" I really do not see what's wrong with it, but I'll ping a friendly copyeditor and native speaker Nihil novi and perhaps they, or the reviewer JJonahJackalope, would like to comment on this or rewrite it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've done some copyediting of the article which I hope will be helpful. Nihil novi (talk) 03:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Neither me nor the reviewer were pinged and we just noticed this - please WP:ECHO relevant editors in the future, if you could. This seems like a very minor issue; I've added "nonexistent or marginalized" to the article body (fair point those words should be used there, thanks for noticing I forgot to elaborate there on this issue). Regarding the sentence " properly retold story should convince the reader to see the new version as more correct" I really do not see what's wrong with it, but I'll ping a friendly copyeditor and native speaker Nihil novi and perhaps they, or the reviewer JJonahJackalope, would like to comment on this or rewrite it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 17
Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani
( ) Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani- ... that Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab's claimed photo circulated online is actually Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani?
Faldi00 (talk) 19:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1... that the photo circulated online claimed to be of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (d. 1792) is actually Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani?
Same refs etc. Bit spicier. Johnbod (talk) 21:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer this one. The sentence structure and lexicons are way better. Faldi00 (talk) 06:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Take it from a native speaker; they're not. But whatever. Johnbod (talk) 13:09, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer this one. The sentence structure and lexicons are way better. Faldi00 (talk) 06:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
The article was nominated two days after creation. It is long enough and appears comprehensive. Google Translate allows for a basic inspection of the sources, and I see nothing of concern. ALT1 is superior indeed, both in sentence structure and hookiness. In fact, the original hook is hardly interesting, but the same fact is framed well in the alternative hook. --Surtsicna (talk) 11:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)- @Faldi00 and Surtsicna: are we sure mujaddid.net and fnoor.com are reliable sources? neither of them looks like it has professional editorial control/fact-checking... theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is difficult for me to tell with certainty because of the language/script barrier, but you might be right. Unfortunately these are the sources for the hook and for the identity of the man in the photograph. I did a reverse image search and could not find another source confirming that the man in the photograph is the subject of the article. Yusuf Asar Yathar, Faldi00, can we get a better source? --Surtsicna (talk) 10:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 18
Raul Meza Jr.
( )- ... that serial killer Raul Meza Jr. began using drugs at age eight?
- Source: https://www.kxan.com/investigations/in-depth-history-of-austins-accused-serial-killer-raul-meza/
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Overall: Article meets all the relevant guidelines, hook is cited to a brand of MSNBC which is considered reliable by consensus. Hook is interesting, nice work! It is a wonderful world (talk) 22:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have pulled the hook over WP:DYKBLP concerns. Regardless of the fact that he is primarily known for negative reasons, unduly focusing on a negative aspect about a living person violates the rule (it would be due to have a hook about his murders, but not about something he did as a kid and what he wasn't known for). A new hook will need to be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that when the serial killer Raul Meza Jr. was asked if he was apologetic, he asked: "What's the use if a person will not accept it?"?--Launchballer 18:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds better. @It is a wonderful world: Can you please check ALT1? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like that hook a lot, but I think "he stated" would be better than "he asked", to avoid the repetition of "asked". Also, I don't think it needs a double question mark? It is a wonderful world (talk) 17:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that when the serial killer Raul Meza Jr. was asked if he was apologetic, he replied: "What's the use if a person will not accept it?".--Launchballer 17:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Probably ready for a new check. Courtesy ping to Swinub in case they weren't aware of the above discussion and the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that when the serial killer Raul Meza Jr. was asked if he was apologetic, he replied: "What's the use if a person will not accept it?".--Launchballer 17:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like that hook a lot, but I think "he stated" would be better than "he asked", to avoid the repetition of "asked". Also, I don't think it needs a double question mark? It is a wonderful world (talk) 17:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds better. @It is a wonderful world: Can you please check ALT1? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that when the serial killer Raul Meza Jr. was asked if he was apologetic, he asked: "What's the use if a person will not accept it?"?--Launchballer 18:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 19
German atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II
( )- ... that during WW2 Germans committed numerous atrocities against prisoners of war? Source: pretty much any source, but see for example: Hébert, Valerie Geneviève (2021-02-12). Hitler's Generals on Trial: The Last War Crimes Tribunal at Nuremberg. University Press of Kansas. ISBN 978-0-7006-3267-1. 150–153
- ALT1: ... that after World War II, during the Nuremberg High Command Trial, almost all of the German high commanders tried were found guilty of crimes against POWs? Source: a bit less generic; same source as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Christmas Invasion
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC).
- This is not a review, and given the topic this is far outside my comfort zone, I will leave the full review to another editor. However, the hook is kind of dull or at least obvious. Nazis doing atrocities to prisoners of war is kind of a "Well, duh" fact given their reputation. A completely different angle is probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- @4meter4 and AirshipJungleman29: Maybe one of you would have an idea for a more interesting hook? I think I reached my limit for thinking about this topic area for a while (although I am still trying to finish reading one or two sources I have...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- As an ALT1 has been proposed, this is probably ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @4meter4 and AirshipJungleman29: Maybe one of you would have an idea for a more interesting hook? I think I reached my limit for thinking about this topic area for a while (although I am still trying to finish reading one or two sources I have...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
2019 NFC Divisional Playoff game (Seattle–Green Bay)
( )- ... that the Seattle Seahawks' loss to the Green Bay Packers in their 2019 Divisional Playoff game was their ninth straight to the Packers at Lambeau Field?
- Reviewed: Sehome, Bellingham, Washington
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC).
- Question: A few refs say that they were retrieved in 2020. I'm assuming this had a longer draft history than what I'm seeing here, but is there another explanation? ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:13, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pbritti just reused some references from Packers-Seahawks rivalry. I can change the access dates if you would like. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I hate to be saying this so late after you've nominated this article, but I have notability concerns. A cursory review of WP:NEVENT suggests that the coverage ranging from only within a month of when the game was played raises concerns regarding whether it merits an article. If there's a localized standard/guideline that permits divisional playoff games to have a presumed notability (I wouldn't be surprised, as I guess that makes sense), then please let me know. Thanks for the clarification. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pbritti, I have added three sources from a few years out. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: Long enough, new enough. Earwig checks out and so does the QPQ. I don't find the hook interesting at all - what else have you got?--Launchballer 17:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pbritti, I have added three sources from a few years out. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I hate to be saying this so late after you've nominated this article, but I have notability concerns. A cursory review of WP:NEVENT suggests that the coverage ranging from only within a month of when the game was played raises concerns regarding whether it merits an article. If there's a localized standard/guideline that permits divisional playoff games to have a presumed notability (I wouldn't be surprised, as I guess that makes sense), then please let me know. Thanks for the clarification. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pbritti just reused some references from Packers-Seahawks rivalry. I can change the access dates if you would like. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Sun Haven (video game)
( )- ... that players can marry the leader in Sun Haven?
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... that players have unlimited energy in Sun Haven, unlike other farm sims?Source: https://www.ign.com/wikis/sun-haven/Tips_and_Tricks_for_Beginners "One of our favorite features in Sun Haven (or lack thereof) is a stamina system. You don't need to worry about passing out from exerting too much energy like you do in other farming games" - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Crimson Diamond
- Comment: Coincidentally, the QPQ is also a video game. I've been waiting for this game on the Switch (even though I don't own one) and its finally due to release by end of month! It was all because of this video.
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JuniperChill (talk) 00:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC).
- Note: this may be suitable to run on 30 November, the day after the game is on the Switch as its scheduled to release on 29 Nov at 0700 PST (1500 UTC) according to this Reddit post, which was posted by one of the developers (see the username). I totally forgot about the special hook occasion and only just realised. If not, the 29th will do. JuniperChill (talk) 22:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also ALT0a: that players can marry Lucia, the leader of Sun Haven?
- Pretty well-written and interesting article. Both the length and citation quality are alright, however I am of the view that the proposed hooks might potentially be in violation of the rule that "If the subject of the hook is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must be focused on a real-world fact." (WP:DYKFICTION). Would be great if you could propose some other alternatives. Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 10:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Well, you can't marry the leaders of Stardew Valley, Coral Island and My Time at Portia/Sandrock so I was thinking SH is unique in this way. Plus, marrying is definitely a real-world fact so I only think ALT1 fails DYKFICTION (because you don't have unlimited stamina IRL) and have self-crossed it out, leaving ALT0/0a it is. JuniperChill (talk) 12:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would disagree with saying that ALT0 definitely meets WP:DYKFICTION because it's about marriage and the concept of marriage is a real-life fact. Plenty of things that happen in real life, such as births, deaths, marriages, going to school, etc. happen in works of fiction. The real issue here based on WP:DYKFICTION is if ALT0 is to be interpreted as a game mechanic or as a plot point: if it's the former, it might meet the guideline, but if it's the latter, it may not. Game mechanics are among those edge cases where it's not clear if DYKFICTION is met or not. At the very least, a reword may be needed. If not, maybe a different angle is needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'll hope for the best for this one then. I think i've learnt that DYK hooks shouldn't talk about the game and talk about the real word associated with it. JuniperChill (talk) 08:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would disagree with saying that ALT0 definitely meets WP:DYKFICTION because it's about marriage and the concept of marriage is a real-life fact. Plenty of things that happen in real life, such as births, deaths, marriages, going to school, etc. happen in works of fiction. The real issue here based on WP:DYKFICTION is if ALT0 is to be interpreted as a game mechanic or as a plot point: if it's the former, it might meet the guideline, but if it's the latter, it may not. Game mechanics are among those edge cases where it's not clear if DYKFICTION is met or not. At the very least, a reword may be needed. If not, maybe a different angle is needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Sources: https://www.thegamer.com/best-farming-games-ranked/ "This indie gem has flown under the radar for a surprisingly long time, not gaining much attention until it had its official 1.0 release in early 2023" and https://www.thegamer.com/sun-haven-worth-it/ "Few games blend farming RPG mechanics, casual slice-of-life interactions, and high fantasy styles like Sun Haven does" for ALT2 and 3 respectively
- @Kingoflettuce: Pinging for a return to the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd hate to be that guy, but I really don't find ALTS 3 and 4 interesting at all. Maybe others might? The article is rather well written and the other DYK criteria aren't an issue. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thinking about this, I would have to agree. ALT2 is very vague (it is not uncommon for early access games to not gain traction until much later, let alone full release games), while ALT3 as currently written is also pretty vague and not very hooky. Taking a look at the article, I'm actually not sure if the article is even a good fit for DYK as there doesn't really seem to be any hook material in it, not even in the Reception section. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd hate to be that guy, but I really don't find ALTS 3 and 4 interesting at all. Maybe others might? The article is rather well written and the other DYK criteria aren't an issue. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Pinging for a return to the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- The only remaining options I can see in the article could be either of the following:
- ALT4 ... that the 2023 life simulator Sun Haven has been compared to Stardew Valley?
- ALT5 ... that a reviewer described the game Sun Haven as similar to Stardew Valley, but more magical and fantastic?
- Stardew Valley is a very popular and well-known game (saying as someone who's yet to play it), but I'm not actually sure if the angles would work if readers don't know Stardew Valley. In addition, JuniperChill has a notice on their talk page saying they are on Wikibreak until the end of the month: should the nomination continue in their absence? Pinging Kingoflettuce again for input, or possibly other editors like RoySmith and Launchballer regarding the latter question. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, im on a christmas holiday rn which is why I made almost no edits this month. As my talk page says, I will be back sometime around 30 Dec. I would think alt5 is the way to go because it adds more info than alt4, but I should put this nom on hold until at least new year. JuniperChill (talk) 06:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- WP:DYKTIMEOUT suggests we should keep this alive until Jan 20th. RoySmith (talk) 16:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith: I'm home now. Does anyone have an optionion on alt4-5? I think we can work with alt4-5 since this game has often been compared with Stardew (well, Fields of Mistria too given the influx of new farm sims from 2023). A little bit unfortunate that I was on a long holiday wikibreak but at least Tiny Glade (nom) was reviewed just days before that started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuniperChill (talk • contribs) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redoing pings to @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith:, which wouldn't have gone through because original post was not signed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I must have forgotten that I need to manually sign posts here due to lack of reply feature and especially due to my wikiholidaybreak. I'm quite used to the reply feature as it automatically appends my signature. I only forgotten to sign my comment a few times and it was all by accident. I was about to leave a followup comment cause I would've expected a reply within 24 hours. JuniperChill (talk) 02:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- As the proposer of ALT4-5, I'm probably not the best person to ask regarding them. As a gamer I might find them somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure if either hook would appeal to non-gamers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I must have forgotten that I need to manually sign posts here due to lack of reply feature and especially due to my wikiholidaybreak. I'm quite used to the reply feature as it automatically appends my signature. I only forgotten to sign my comment a few times and it was all by accident. I was about to leave a followup comment cause I would've expected a reply within 24 hours. JuniperChill (talk) 02:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redoing pings to @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith:, which wouldn't have gone through because original post was not signed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith: I'm home now. Does anyone have an optionion on alt4-5? I think we can work with alt4-5 since this game has often been compared with Stardew (well, Fields of Mistria too given the influx of new farm sims from 2023). A little bit unfortunate that I was on a long holiday wikibreak but at least Tiny Glade (nom) was reviewed just days before that started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuniperChill (talk • contribs) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 21
SpongeKnob SquareNuts
( )- ... that SpongeBob has an existential crisis in a porn parody?
- Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/spongebob-porn-parody-spongeknob-squarenuts-415349/
Di (they-them) (talk) 05:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Nice hook and it's cited. The article is in good shape as well, and QPQ is provided here. No copyright violation concerns. The article is definitely...interesting! ~ Tails Wx 06:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- currently at AfD. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 22
Sugya
( )- ... that the composition of a sugya, or passage in the Babylonian Talmud, has multiple layers, with the latest edited with an anonymous voice?
- Source: "Separating the Tannaitic, Amoraic, and Stammaitic layers reveals that the rabbis employ increasingly abstract formulations and concepts in their legal science." Stammaitic = anonymous (same source). See: Rubenstein at https://www.ancientjewreview.com/read/2016/2/9/talmudicstories
- ALT1: ... that a sugya, or passage in the Talmud, may be read as folklore, philosophy, proto-feminist, or legal virtuosity? Source: Folklore -- Stein, Dina (2019). "Linguistic Liaisons: Wives and Vows in the Babylonian Talmud (BT Nedarim 66a-b)". Nashim: A Journal of Jewish Women's Studies & Gender Issues (35). Philosophy: Lévinas, Emmanuel; Aronowicz, Annette; Lévinas, Emmanuel (1990). Nine Talmudic readings. Bloomington: Indiana Univ. Press. ISBN 978-0-253-20876-7. Proto-feminist: Hauptman, Judith (1998). Rereading the rabbis: a woman's voice. Boulder, Colo.: Westview Press. ISBN 978-0-8133-3400-4. Conceptual "virtuosity: -- Moscovitz, Leib (2003). ""Designation is Significant": An Analysis of the Conceptual Sugya in bSan 47b–48b". AJS Review. 27 (2): 227–252. Let me know if quotes from sources would be helpful.
- ALT2: ... that anonymous editors may create a sugya, or passage in the Talmud, by rewording quotations by earlier rabbis? Source: Moscovitz, Leib. "'The Holy Blessed One Be He... Does Not Permit the Righteous to Stumble': Reflections on the Development of a Remarkable BT Theologoumenon." In Rubenstein, Jeffrey L., ed. Creation and Composition: the Contribution of the Bavli Redactors (Stammaim) to the Aggada. Mohr Sieback, 2005, p126 "Second, the anonymous BT redactors contributed to the Talmud by reformulating amoraic dicta, not just by adding to their statements." Friedman, Shamma (2005). "A Good Story Deserves Retelling – The Unfolding Of The Akiva Legend" in same book: see p.72 "anonymous voice in the sugyot... original and creative rather than simply preserving or transmitting"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tony Pajaczkowski
- Comment: Open to suggestions with the hook, trying to avoid insider jargon. Also, please help with my faulty template use in the QPQ. Btw, "proto-feminist" isn't quite parallel structure.
ProfGray (talk) 04:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC).
ILEA Educational Television Service
( )- ... that a cable TV channel in the UK was still broadcasting primarily in black and white as late as 1979?
- Source: "Both the ULAVC and ILEA had converted into colour production by 1980, however, the now old GPO VHF cable network was only just capable of transmitting high quality colour (it was originally designed for analogue black and white in 1967)."
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Nylix4488 (talk) 01:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC).
- I am not seeing the information about it being in black and white explicitly mentioned in the article or the provided quote. The article even mentions a test color broadcast, but not what happened after. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Nylix4488: Please respond to the above concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the fix, but it still doesn't completely match the article. The article does not directly support the "still broadcasting primarily" wording, and indeed the article doesn't even directly state if there was still a black-and-white broadcast in 1979. Given that this is a TV station-related nomination and with how this has been stuck for a while, I'm asking Sammi Brie for help with the nomination and article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:57, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've actually heard of this thing, believe it or not. And I have indeed located a reference to this effect in The Times Educational Supplement. We are good on that front, but there is still a paragraph missing an ending citation, Nylix4488. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Noel Hilliam
( )- ... that shipwreck hunter Noel Hilliam claimed to find a sunken U-Boat off the coast of New Zealand?
- Source: In 2008 The Underwater Heritage Group (of which Noel Hilliam was vice-president) announced that they had discovered a German U-boat off the Kaipara Coast. Hilliam claimed the submarine had been 'observed seven times' and three divers had been to it – however, no photographs exist and it has not since been seen.
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Petersmeter (talk) 07:06, 26 November 2024 (UTC).
- I'll give this a review. Schwede66 08:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Some content issues first. The date and place of birth are unreferenced, and you either need to reference those or remove the info. There is an unreferenced section (same thing; either reference it or remove the info). Misplaced Pages use quotation marks (") rather than apostrophes ('); please change this throughout the article. I've fixed up numerous stylistic issues myself. Now to the DYK criteria. The article was new in mainspace when it was nominated. It's long enough. Apart from the parts listed above, it's suitably referenced. Hilliam was a controversial chap, but I'm happy that it's written in a neutral way. Earwig is clean; all it finds are direct quotes. This appears to be the nominator's second DYK nomination, hence a QPQ is not required. The grammar of the hook is off; it would need to be "claimed to have found". The hook fact itself is referenced. Once the above issues are sorted, this is good to go. Schwede66 09:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help with this article Schwede66 - I think I have corrected all the quotation marks, added references for the unreferenced section and added a reference for birth place/date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petersmeter (talk • contribs) 13:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- You will find that Geni.com is not a reliable source; it's listed at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. I suggest you have a look on PapersPast whether you can find a birth notice in one of the local papers. Schwede66 16:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks - I have trawled through papers past and online am unable to find any other references. So have removed the date and location of birth. Petersmeter (talk)
- Good to go. Schwede66 23:19, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Petersmeter and Schwede66: I've added a tag for OR to the "Doubt" section: for example, his alleged reliance on anonymous "experts" is not verified by a source, and the examples provided don't seem to be linked in RS. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go. Schwede66 23:19, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
References
- "U-196 found off New Zealand ?". Uboat.net.
- "German U-boat found in Northland waters, group claims". RNZ. 7 November 2008.
Articles created/expanded on November 26
Family Stress Model
( )- ... that the Family Stress Model helps explain how economic hardship impacts children and adolescents through family-level processes like interpersonal conflict between caregivers and disrupted parenting?
- Source: "We consider the Family Stress Model (FSM) as a useful framework for understanding the family stress process and its potential impact on children’s lives. As illustrated in Figure 1, the FSM outlines a theoretical process by which economic hardships and pressures (Boxes 1 and 2) exacerbate child and adolescent maladjustment (Box 5) primarily through parents’ psychological distress (Box 3), interparental relationship problems (Box 4a), and disrupted parenting (Box 4b). Box 6 involves additional risk factors that may intensify and protective factors that may dampen the family stress process. Since proposed by Conger and his colleagues there have been at least three published reports that review systematically the extent of empirical support for the FSM." (Masarik & Conger, 2017; Stress and Child Development: A Review of the Family Stress Model, p. 85).
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MezLazYaz (talk) 23:37, 3 December 2024 (UTC).
Comment @MezLazYaz Not a review. The lead of the article needs work as it doesn't even acknowledge that the FSM is a theory. The very first sentence needs to define what the Family Stress Model is. The first seven words in the lead should/must say "The Family Stress Model is a theory..." You can talk about it growing out of something after you have given a succinct definition in the opening sentence. See Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Lead section.4meter4 (talk) 15:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Alessandra Rojo de la Vega
( )- ...that Alessandra Rojo de la Vega became the mayor of Cuauhtémoc, Mexico City after a very contested election, with a gunshot attack, several vote recounts and accusations of gender violence?
Alan Islas (talk) 15:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comment-only, refer to WP:DYKHOOKBLP. (CC) Tbhotch 05:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Notwithstanding Tbhotch's comment, QPQ has yet to be done. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:20, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Alan Islas: You need to review another article, and you also need to consider hooks that are not unduly negative for this living person per Tbhotch's suggestion. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Thanks everybody for looking into my submission. Apologies for the delay in replying, I was not able to work on this due to external circumstances. Completed review of Template:Did you know nominations/Marzēaḥ.
About the hook, it is not intended to be negative, as Rojo de la Vega showed resiliency to overcame all the obstacles. In the end her case prevailed in the electoral courts and she was confirmed as the winner of a very contested election. However, I do see how it can be interpreted differently. I have to go to work now, but I'll get back to this tonight, edit the original hook and add alternatives. Alan Islas (talk) 14:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)- Pinging the actual reviewer Kingoflettuce for this update. (I just was pinging to move the nomination along.) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 14:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Thanks everybody for looking into my submission. Apologies for the delay in replying, I was not able to work on this due to external circumstances. Completed review of Template:Did you know nominations/Marzēaḥ.
Articles created/expanded on November 29
Articles created/expanded on December 1
Qvadriga
( )- ... that the 2014 chariot racing video game Qvadriga was inspired by the 1979 board game Circus Maximus?
hahnchen 00:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC).
- This is my first DYK review so let me know if I made a mistake. QPQ has been done. Article long enough (5032 characters), images licensed correctly, Earwig null results, article is well-referenced and presentable. Hook is verified and cited to a reliable primary source. However, I do not think the hook is interesting. Why should regular reader care that a video game is inspired by another board game? Ca 02:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, the reason I chose this hook is because there's a large gap in between the board game and the video game. I thought it was interesting to show the board game's legacy. I can suggest other hooks which refer to chariot racing, like the forty-three hippodromes and circuses, but I felt that less interesting because they are all just presented from a top down view. - hahnchen 15:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- To me, the fact that this is a racing game based on turn-based tactics seem interesting, since most racing games are real-time. However, I don't know if WP:DYKFICTION applies here. Ca 01:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that it being a turn-based tactical racing game is interesting, it is certainly rare for a video game. Alt hooks suggested below, but I still prefer the original
- ALT1... that PC gaming website Rock Paper Shotgun named the turn-based tactics game Qvadriga as the best racing game of 2014?
- * Source: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/best-racing-game-2014-qvadriga
- ALT2... that Qvadriga is a turn-based tactics chariot racing video game set in ancient Rome?
- * Source: https://www.eurogamer.net/qvadriga-review or http://www.turnopia.com/qvadriga/ or the game itself
- hahnchen 20:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that it being a turn-based tactical racing game is interesting, it is certainly rare for a video game. Alt hooks suggested below, but I still prefer the original
- To me, the fact that this is a racing game based on turn-based tactics seem interesting, since most racing games are real-time. However, I don't know if WP:DYKFICTION applies here. Ca 01:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, the reason I chose this hook is because there's a large gap in between the board game and the video game. I thought it was interesting to show the board game's legacy. I can suggest other hooks which refer to chariot racing, like the forty-three hippodromes and circuses, but I felt that less interesting because they are all just presented from a top down view. - hahnchen 15:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think the original hook is the most interesting due to the contrast of game years. But the alternative hooks are also good. Maybe more emphasis could be placed on the contrast between mobile game vs board game? Moondragon21 (talk) 15:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Tellus (app)
( )- ... that even though California-based company Tellus does not possess a banking license, it offers non-FDIC-insured interest-bearing demand deposit accounts to consumers? Source: Barron's 1
- ALT1: ... that 68% of funds lent by Tellus between April and December 2023 were given to affiliates of one real estate investment firm to invest in Silicon Valley housing? Source: Barron's 2
- ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company? Source: Barron's 1
- ALT3: ... that while Tellus packages together cash from multiple consumer depositors to make real estate loans, and is not FDIC-insured, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities to consumers? Source: TechCrunch
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cherry on Top (Bini song) Template:Did you know nominations/Dithapelo Keorapetse
- Comment: QPQs completed.
— Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC).
- This is not a review but rather than a comment, but ALT0 and ALT3 will probably have to be rejected due to both WP:DYKINT concerns (reliance on specialist terms that may not be easily understood by non-financial savvy readers, especially outside the US) and for also sounding rather promotional. ALT2 might be the only suitable option at this point. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I understand how one could read Alt0 to be promotional (though I disagree and don’t see why non-insured demand deposit accounts are appealing but for their higher rates, which isn’t in the hook). But I’m really not sure how Alt3 could be seen that way—it’s highlighting that they don't purport to offer mortgage-backed securities even though they make what appears (to at least some professors cited in the body) be some sort of securitized loan offering without registration. That being said, I do take your point that people who don’t know much about managing their finances through investment could find these two hooks’ nuances hard to understand.Separately, I had been considering a book about the mysterious non-existent partnerships with banks that are mentioned in the article and were the subject of Senate scrutiny, but I couldn’t figure out a way to write it concisely in hook form without oversimplifying. I’ll take a crack at that over the next couple days with a clear head. — Red-tailed sock (Red-tailed hawk's nest) 16:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 13:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Thank you for this carefully-detailed article about financial wheeler-dealing. Contrary to above comments, it would seem to me that any intelligent person can smell he stink emanating from that dodgy company, no matter what country they are in. So well done for alerting us to it, and well done for writing hooks which may guide readers to take a good look at the article. I could tell from the hooks alone that there was something very unsafe about the company's handliing of money, so I would certainly not take the hooks as obscure or uninteresting.
Good to go, with a preference for ALT3, even though it has 199 characters (i.e. close to the max of 200). Please do not prune ALT3, because this kind of financial detail is important and should not be messed about with. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Red-tailed hawk, am I right to read "and is not FIDC-insured" as only indirectly relevant to the rest of the hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:58, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I am going to give a long-winded answer for posterity’s sake, but the short answer is that it is directly relevant.
- The way that the fractional-reserve banking systems works (in a very simplified way) is that banks receive deposits from customers and pool those funds to make loans, while keeping only a minimal small fraction of deposits as actual cash on hand. Banks receive interest payments from the loans they have made, and in turn provide customers with interest in their deposit accounts. In the U.S., banks are required to be FDIC insured—this keeps confidence in banks and prevents a bank run.
- Tellus, however, is not a licensed bank. As such, it doesn’t answer to the banking regulators. It also doesn’t hold FDIC insurance, as non-bank financial firms aren’t eligible for it.
- There is another to pool money from several individuals in order to issue a loan—securitization. In the mortgage industry, it is common for mortgage issuers to sell mortgages to other banks and Qualified institutional buyers, who would collect the interest in the long run. A mortgage-backed security is a financial instrument that is backed by these sorts of mortgages (alone or pooled with others); the security is broken into shares which are then distributed to other parties. Unregistered securities exist, and can even be sold between third-party banks and other QIBs under SEC rule 144A, but the big rule is that you can’t sell them to ordinary people because.
- The way that Tellus boost/reserve works (based on their January 2023 Boost ToS) is that deposits are general obligation debts of Tellus to its account holders, and represents only a debt from Tellus to the account holders. Tellus says that the cash accounts are not mortgage-backed securities because they are not; in fact, they’re backed only by Tellus’s future income as a firm—there is no specific asset backing them.
- So, you’ve got something here that they say is not a mortgage-backed security. And they also aren’t claiming that it’s a demand deposit backed by a specific asset, while also claiming in advertising that one can withdraw money (for boost accounts) whenever one would like. So one’s left with concluding that that they’re essentially securing private, apparently callable (in advertising but not in the actual customer agreement), interest-bearing debt financing to themselves from a set of people that apparently includes non-accredited investors. And the company is using that money (based on public statements) for commercial lending of its own.
- So, yes, the FDIC part matters, since it indicates that the firm is not acting like a bank would. And the MBS part matters, as it indicates that there is no specific asset backing the deposits. It’s its own thing, and it’s a unique and unusual model for a consumer-facing business’s finance arm.
- — Red-tailed sock (Red-tailed hawk's nest) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- The hook has been pulled from Prep owing to concerns about the original hook (which is now struck). Per the discussion at WT:DYK, there are two possible options: ALT2, and a hook proposed by RoySmith (labeled as ALT4 here):
- ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company?
- ALT4 ... that while Tellus uses non-FDIC insured consumer deposits to make real-estate loans, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities?
- While one editor also said ALT2 is suitable, discussion leaned more towards either of these two, so a new reviewer is needed to make a final decision. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, the discussion did not determine that, nor strike those hooks. Please do not strike my comments against the guidance of WP:TPO and please self-revert, as you have become WP:INVOLVED here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did not strike your comments, only some of the hooks above. Striking hooks is a common practice on DYK regarding hooks that are deemed to no longer be under consideration. For what it's worth, there did seem to be (emphasis on "seem" here, so correct me if I'm wrong) loose consensus that the original hook was problematic, so that's probably out of the question now, though the discussion didn't rule out RoySmith's rewording of it. That's why there's the request for a previously uninvolved reviewer, to make sure the final decision is impartial. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- For the benefit of any new reviewers, the abovementioned discussion about this nomination is at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Tellus (app). Storye book (talk) 10:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did not strike your comments, only some of the hooks above. Striking hooks is a common practice on DYK regarding hooks that are deemed to no longer be under consideration. For what it's worth, there did seem to be (emphasis on "seem" here, so correct me if I'm wrong) loose consensus that the original hook was problematic, so that's probably out of the question now, though the discussion didn't rule out RoySmith's rewording of it. That's why there's the request for a previously uninvolved reviewer, to make sure the final decision is impartial. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, the discussion did not determine that, nor strike those hooks. Please do not strike my comments against the guidance of WP:TPO and please self-revert, as you have become WP:INVOLVED here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 2
Recategorization
( )- ... that in 2003, Rwanda adopted a constitution that recategorized Rwandans of Hutu, Tutsi, and Twa ethnicities into one identity, banyarwanda?
- Source: Beyond Conflict and Spoilt Identities: How Rwandan Leaders Justify a Single Recategorization Model for Post-Conflict Reconciliation
Authored by Sigrun Marie Moss and published in the Journal of Social and Political Psychology in 2014. PDF available at: Quotes: "Since 1994,the Rwandan government has attempted to remove the division of the population into the ‘ethnic’ groups (ubwoko) Hutu, Tutsi and Twa and instead encourage people to think of themselves only in terms of a common national Rwandan identity. This approach can be classified as recategorization of social identities– a process where subordinate identities are replaced with a shared or superordinate identity in order to improve intergroup relations." ...
"This comprehensive recategorization approach is based on a meta-narrative that essentialises Rwandan unity and de-essentialises ethnic identities, in a context where alternative narratives are not permitted. The 2003 constitution forbids genocide ideology, and a 2008 addition further limits identity discussions. These strict genocide ideology laws ban everything seen as divisionism, implying limited freedom of speech on topics of identity, political power and representation."- Reviewed:
Paradox38 (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC).
- @Paradox38: Welcome to DYK! New enough in mainspace (moved December 2) and long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. The hook fact checks out. This is a promising page but needs action to proceed:
- All paragraphs beyond the lead section need to end in an inline citation. The paragraph beginning in
The challenges facing
might be fine since it's basically a summary of the cited paragraphs, but I see three paragraphs that have uncited portions. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 14:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)- I've indicated them with tags. From what I understand the first two seem to be clarifying sentences, so could be removed if needed. The third one has additional content that would be more of a shame to remove. CMD (talk) 17:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- All paragraphs beyond the lead section need to end in an inline citation. The paragraph beginning in
Articles created/expanded on December 3
2024 attack on the Bangladesh Assistant High Commission in India
( )- ... that a Bangladeshi diplomatic mission in India was attacked by Hindu extremists affiliated to Vishva Hindu Parishad, protesting the arrest of a Hindu monk?
- Reviewed:
Za-ari-masen (talk) 15:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on December 6
Prius Missile
( )- ... that the Toyota Prius has been witnessed crashed so frequently it was referred as a missile?
- ALT1: ... that the Toyota Prius has been referred to a missile? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I don't have negative intents against the vehicle, but the original may be a bit negative, so I have a more neutral ALT here as well. The name literally says "Prius Missile", so I thought this was a WP:BLUE situation, but I guess something is needed as a bare minimum.
ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: @AlphaBetaGamma: Thanks for such an interesting article. I'm from California but I live in Hawaii. Both states have a lot of Priuses, so I was pretty confused by your hook when I read it, because in those two states, the Prius is not really known for crashes. (The joke around these parts is that it's usually a Nissan, but it's not exactly clear why that is). I read your article, and I see that it is mostly about a phenomenon in Japan involving older drivers, which makes a lot of sense and is quite interesting. I think this is the kind of hook (ALT0) that shocks readers (like myself) and increases traffic to your article, but I also wonder if it is somewhat misleading since the hook itself doesn't mention Japan or older drivers. In any case, it's a great hook, but I wonder if it is legit to shock the reader like this. If it is, it's highly effective and would probably get a lot of traffic. I'm not sure if we can trick readers like this, so I will ping a few people and see what they say: @Launchballer and RoySmith: Thanks. ABG, you are also missing the word "as" in ALT1. Viriditas (talk) 10:23, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
This seems like click bait. I wouldn't run it. RoySmith (talk) 13:59, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: Thank you, that was one of my concerns. My other question is where is the red line? In other words, some of our most successful hooks approach clickbait, wouldn't you agree? How do you know when you've crossed that line? For me, this hook crosses it, as it doesn't let the reader know that the Prius is only considered accident prone in Japan due to the demographic of older drivers. Perhaps, if it just stopped there, it would be fine, but it doesn't. Reading further, we discover this is just a slang term, and that official data shows that Priuses are no more accident prone than other vehicles, which is what I suspected from the jump. For this reason, I am leaning into crossing out ALT0. Viriditas (talk) 21:15, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Initial review
- Article is new enough and long enough and moved from draft to mainspace. Earwig shows no issues. It's not clear if the nominator is the author of the original article, which was created on ja.wikipedia in mid 2021. If not, I believe you're supposed to attribute when you copy over the material as a translation in your first edit, but you just wrote "start draft". In any case, you've got a fully formed, well written article over at ja, yet you only copied over (or wrote) a minor version of it here. I don't get why you did that. The current version here on en.wikipedia needs copyedits. However, I would encourage you to return to the ja article and import the majority of it back over here, as it makes much more sense and covers the entire topic in a comprehensive manner. As for your hooks, ALT0 is ragebait (see the discussion above), and you got me good! I was genuinely upset as to why the beloved Prius (official car of liberals in the US) was associated with crashes! I clicked so fast and hard that smoke came out of my mouse. It was then that I realized, I had been fooled. More so when I check the original article on ja. Then there's the image of the crashed vehicle. I recall seeing that image before, and I think it's from California. Have you considered using Japan-related images? So, you've got a lot of issues to deal with here, but I can walk you through them. First things first, why not copy over the entire article from ja? It's really well done and would clear up a great many things. Viriditas (talk) 21:51, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Viriditas (talk) 21:51, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
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According to Masaki Kubota , the viral spread of the slang and the creation of the Prius's public image as a crash-prone car is thought to be caused by the extremely large amount of the car in use, the car being popular among older drivers, older drivers usually being overconfident in their driving skills, and the Prius's significance as a well-known car brand. |
Covered the entire "原因" paragraph. Not too sure how much I should cover beyond that. I hope the next ALT is more informing, because the lack of information causing "click bait" seems to be the issue here. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 22:12, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ...that the Toyota Prius driven by older people in Japan has been referred to a missile?
- IMO, "referred to a missile" doesn't really work in English. Also, try rearranging your primary link so that it comes first; that tends to increase views. You may also want to work in the fact that this is a slang term or a meme, as that isn't made clear. As for the main ja article, I'm not clear on the disconnect based on your response. There's a lot of content in that article that didn't find its way here, and it more accurately describes the topic. Viriditas (talk) 22:24, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- What about "referred to as a missile"? I think that's grammatically correct. Bremps... 19:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Bremps: See my original review at the top. I already made that recommendation. Viriditas (talk) 19:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I was quite stuck, so I reached out for help off-wiki, and some of them argued that specifying too much would not make a good hook. I've had issues thinking of a hook, and for the article itself, you told me a lot of information on jawiki didn't find way into the enwiki version I made. I did try to do my best to cover the content, but my lack of knowledge for cars itself basically barred me from inserting clear details to improve the article. I didn't really want to machine-paste the content either because google translate tends to be faulty for some words.
TL;DR - I'm stuck, because I thought I wrote a hook that gets views for once, but got turned down because the hook crossed into the boundaries of "click bait". (Aren't most successful hooks clickbaits or borderline clickbaits?) ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's a great question. I asked ChatGPT, and it gave some good answers. Non-clickbait should be 1) accurate 2) transparent, and this last one is the big one, 3) engage the reader through intrigue instead of deception, fabrication, or distortion. As I said above, without mentioning you are talking specifically about Japan and older people, it's pretty deceptive. Viriditas (talk) 08:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma: Provided the article is in acceptable shape, I would support a hook that addresses the points in my above comment. In other words, mention Japan and the older demographic. No reason to still be stuck. Add new hooks. Viriditas (talk) 08:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ...that there is a slang term for Toyota Prius driven by older people in Japan? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/
- @AlphaBetaGamma: Provided the article is in acceptable shape, I would support a hook that addresses the points in my above comment. In other words, mention Japan and the older demographic. No reason to still be stuck. Add new hooks. Viriditas (talk) 08:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
I don't think this is interesting
- Then write a hook that is interesting. You'll also need to fix your lead section, which contradicts what we know about the accident rate. In other words, the slang didn't arise from the increased amount of accidents, but from the perception of it on the internet. It's basically a meme, not a real thing. One of the reasons I asked you to expand the article with the material from the Japanese Misplaced Pages is it would clear up all of these inconsistencies. It isn't exactly clear to me why you are hesitant to do this. Viriditas (talk) 10:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lead rewritten with the same thing as jawiki mentioned. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, it reads like a huge improvement to me. Any thoughts come to you about new hooks? Viriditas (talk) 08:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lead rewritten with the same thing as jawiki mentioned. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4: ...that the Toyota Prius has been described as a missile in Japan on the internet due to the number of them seen on news reports of car accidents? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/
This hook is way too long, but trimming it would cause the previous issues to appear again ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC) Nevermind hook is 146 characters and meets policy haha ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
With that said, the previous alt definitely did not fix the previous issues...
- ALT5: ...that in Japan, the Toyota Prius has been described as a missile on the internet as it was falsely blamed for being a crash-prone car? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/
Also, is it possible to add the image currently present in the lead? It seems like it would be good to go for DYK, although the size may make it difficult to see the car, that may be an issue with my eyes and not the image quality itself. I'm not pinging the reviewer for now as everyone wants to do their own thing on this time. Seeing that I violated my wikibreak I'm going to ask for an enforcement block. Happy new year. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:19, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would be against including the image in question for the reasons I laid out up above, namely that it is inaccurate, since there's no indication the accident was in Japan (I'm pretty sure that's California depicted), and it would further promote an untrue stereotype. I would feel differently with an image from Japan showing an accident, particularly an image of the accident described in the article. Viriditas (talk) 00:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going through the article and making a final read. It occurs to me, that this is part of a much larger phenomenon worldwide. In Japan, accidents caused by unintended acceleration due to pedal misapplication are as high as 18%, often attributed to the Prius because that car is more common there, but here in the United States, we have the same problem, and everyone I know can tell you about the little old lady/man who ran their car into the corner store, as it's extremely common and is happening just about everywhere. The only difference is that the Prius isn't as common here, so it's often a variety of different vehicles at fault. The older lady who did this down the street from me and accidentally drove her car into the market (which I took a photo of and still have in my archives somewhere) did so in an American sports car. Anyway, I just wanted to make a note of this. Viriditas (talk) 21:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Final review
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Overall: I believe that all of the outstanding problems have been fixed, although the hooks might still need some work. I think ALT5 comes closest to being acceptable. For those who aren't aware of this whole thing, this is a very real phenomenon. There have been numerous case studies of the age-related phenomenon of car accidents caused by unintended acceleration in Japan. The problem never had anything to do with Prius, but rather the fact that this car was very common and driven by older drivers. This internet slang term emerged out of this phenomenon, and likely led to increased, preventative safety measures added by Toyota in newer versions of the vehicle (as the article makes clear), not because there was something wrong with the Prius (there wasn't), but because older drivers in Japan tended to drive it and would often engage in unintended acceleration. I'm thinking that a hook that makes note of this might be the most neutral of all. In any case, I believe that variations of ALT3 and ALT5 can work, so I'm passing this, but I think a proposed ALT6 that makes note of the new safety features that were introduced to prevent older drivers from engaging in unintended acceleration might be best of all. I will request help in this regard on the DYK talk page as the nominator is on a self-imposed break. Viriditas (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- If none of the hooks are ready to be promoted at this time, then this shouldn't be ticked. Superseding the tick until a completely acceptable hook has been approved. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT6: ... that in Japan, the Toyota Prius has been described as a missile on the internet as it was falsely blamed for being a crash-prone car, forcing Toyota to introduce new safety measures? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlphaBetaGamma (talk • contribs) 04:21, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma: I think ALT3 and ALT5 are ready to go, but you're going to need to clean it up a bit for grammar and presentation. Unfortunately, unlike some other reviewers, I can't pass my own hooks, so you'll need to do this yourself. You can ask for help on the DYK talk page if you like. Viriditas (talk) 09:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 10
Ethel Lote
( )- ... that World War II nurse Ethel Lote taught yoga classes until she was 95?
- ALT1: ... that World War II nurse Ethel Lote taught yoga classes until she was in her 90s? Source: "And she taught yoga well into her 90s"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First hook is supported by the video in source, but I am unsure if videos can be used as evidence in a DYK nomination so I've added an alt hook just in case.
Spiderpig662 (talk) 21:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC).
This article has potential, but there are solveable problems:
- Article is new and long enough
- The article relies on sources that are mostly interviews, such as the Dreaper BBC source, which is used at least four times. The blurb relies on Lote's son and herself mentioning this fact when interviewed. This falls as WP:PRIMARY, and I can pass this despite of this, but others may not. The Telegraph is behind a registerwall but can be used AGF.
- Article is presentable
- Some sources contradict each other. The 2008 Express and Star reference states she retired at 88 years old. The video cited in the hook states she quit at 95, while the 2020 Express and Star reference states 90s. I'd assume the newer Express and Star is more updated, but maybe this should be in the prose that she retired in 2008, but had continued exercising herself until she was 95? I assume that what was meant?
- Hook is interesting and short enough.
- Image is licensed appropriately; impossible to find a free source of Lote as she is now dead.
- QPQ is waived as creator only has 2 DYKs.
Howard the Duck (talk) 12:04, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
2024 MLS expansion draft
( )- ... that San Diego FC, Major League Soccer's newest team selected five new players during the 2024 MLS expansion draft?
- Source: "San Diego FC: 2024 MLS Expansion Draft results". Major League Socccer. December 11, 2024. Retrieved December 12, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Heine Gikling Bruseth, Hamady Diop, Jasper Löffelsend, Hosei Kijima, and Thiago Andrade were selected in the 2024 MLS expansion draft by San Diego FC? Source: "San Diego FC: 2024 MLS Expansion Draft results". Major League Socccer. December 11, 2024. Retrieved December 12, 2024.
- Reviewed:
Demt1298 (talk) 00:50, 13 December 2024 (UTC).
- Neither hook is interesting to a broad audience, as outside of football/soccer fans, the hook is unlikely to be perceived as interesting or unusual. Please provide more accessible hooks that can attract or interest even non-MLS fans. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce, BeanieFan11, and Gonzo fan2007: Is it okay if any of you propose alternate hooks, if it is possible? Also pinging Demt1298 and Motdattan for their input. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both hooks are pretty boring, even to this soccer fan. How about this ALT2: ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft took place at a shopping center? Source: San Diego Union-Tribune SounderBruce 00:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe ALT3 ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft featured only five selections? – the next would need to be added, but perhaps ALT4 ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft featured the selections of a Norwegian, a Senegalese, a German, a Japanese, and a Brazilian – and no one else? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like SounderBruce's suggestion the most. Just waiting for a response from the nominator before proceeding. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I mean as a soccer fan, I don't know why the fact it was at a shopping mall would make it interesting, but I also understand my suggestions were boring, so I don't know I should be the one who defines what is interesting to soccer fans. Demt1298 (talk) 19:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like SounderBruce's suggestion the most. Just waiting for a response from the nominator before proceeding. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce, BeanieFan11, and Gonzo fan2007: Is it okay if any of you propose alternate hooks, if it is possible? Also pinging Demt1298 and Motdattan for their input. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 11
Step by Step (Braxe + Falcon song)
( )- ... that for their debut single "Step by Step", the French touch music duo Braxe + Falcon created a "downtempo ballad with acoustic drums" in divergence from the traditional French house club-style music?
- Source: https://www.musicradar.com/news/braxe-falcon-interview – "We finished Step By Step first and that was an important song for us because it’s a downtempo ballad with acoustic drums. We didn’t want to come back with your typical French house 125bpm format – we’ve done that already and are not excited by that type of music anymore, so we felt it was crucial to push this kind of track as part of our first collaborative project."
- Reviewed:
BarntToust 14:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC).
- I'll take on this one, to pay it forward on how quickly my first DYK nom got reviewed.
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- Adequate sourcing: - Need to source the genre (per WP:EXPLICITGENRE). The personnel section should also be cited, whether if it is to an online listing of the song or the EP's liner notes.
- Neutral: - Wish I could give a check mark with comments, but this template does not allow that. I'd like to see a little more about the song's lyrical content, if you could find information on it? No worries if not.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems: - When I first ran Earwig on the article, it gave it a copyvio score of 62.9%. While a second run reduced it down to an acceptable 21.3%, I think that the overquoting in the article's reception section should be addressed before it is promoted to DYK. I'd suggest taking a look at WP:CRS for tips on how to consolidate things, but the key is to try and link quotes together by their subject like you did in the article's lead (e.g. "Critics praised the song for its "breezy" instrumention.")
Hook eligibility:
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- Interesting: - I'm not convinced of this hook's interesting-ness. Per WP:DYKINT, a hook needs to be intriguing to a person with "no special knowledge or interest", but this hook requires a reader to be familiar with the conventions of "traditional French house club-style music". The information about the music video seems pretty interesting though, perhaps "...that the music video for "Step by Step" stars a 12-year old professional skateboarder?" or something in that vein?
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Overall: Article is new enough and was promoted to GA within the past week. However, there are few issues with the article's prose: "French touch" being the song's genre must be sourced, the personnel section lacks a citation, and there's a bit of WP:OVERQUOTE in the article reception section. The given hook is also not particularly interesting in my opinion; I've suggested an alternative idea, but a new hook should be created in any case. In any case, good job on your first GA and your first DYK nomination, as far as I can tell :) Leafy46 (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- The nominator responded to this review on my personal talk page, and has agreed with an alternate hook. How does "ALT1: ...that the music video for "Step by Step" stars a 12-year old professional skateboarder?" (Source) sound? Leafy46 (talk) 17:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I also see that you proposed "ALT1a: ... that the music video for Braxe + Falcon's debut single "Step by Step", directed by Toru Tokikawa, stars 12-year-old skater Ginwoo Onodera, who is the youngest athlete ever to sign with Nike?" — I'll put this here too just so we can consolidate everything, but I personally think less is more when it comes to DYK hooks in general. Leafy46 (talk) 17:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator accepted the alternate hooks on my personal talk page, so I'll approve ALT1 and ALT1a for whichever administrator comes down the line to choose from! Leafy46 (talk) 17:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Any mistakes in the GA review are mine, sorry. // Chchcheckit (talk) 12:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC) (the reviewer)2
- @Leafy46 and BarntToust: any person who proposes a hook cannot approve it, so another reviewer is needed for ALT1 and ALT1a. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed for ALT1 and ALT1a. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29 and BlueMoonset: Terribly sorry about that, I didn't realize that was a rule. Could ALT1a at least be moved forward then, given that it was written by the nominator themselves? I don't want to hold this nomination back simply because of an error on my part given that it's been in the limbo for quite a bit, and I have otherwise completed a review of the article's prose. Leafy46 (talk) 18:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I personally wouldn't approve ALT1a as it's a rather complex hook with too many details. It mentions too many names and seems to lack focus on what it actually wants to focus on: the 12-year-old skateboarder, or Onodera being the youngest athlete to sign with Nike. If the nominator likes ALT1 itself, then it can be approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
1,10-Decanediol
( ) 3D model of 1,10-Decanediol- ... that 1,10-Decanediol could function as an inhibitor of soil nitrification?
- Reviewed:
金色黎明 (talk) 12:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Hey 金色黎明, so nice see you here on enwiki! First, the DYK hooks should follow the same format as on zhwiki and wrap the eligible article in bold markup. I have made those adjustments for you and added a link to nitrification, so no worries there. Most of the sources are offline academic references, and I will AGF regarding them. Image is freely licensed. The Google Patents source backs the hook fact, although I am not a 100% sure if it is a reliable source. It is also just moderately interesting imo, but since the rest of the article is much more technical, I do not believe a better hook can be formulated, so I will get it a pass. This is your second DYK nomination, so no QPQ is needed. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- 金色黎明, as Prince of Erebor notes, this hook is only moderately interesting; perhaps it could be made more interesting if it goes into more detail about what inhibiting soil nitrification does. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 12
Mark Hearld
( )- ... that a Christmas card featuring "a hand-coloured winter thrush" by artist Mark Hearld was included in a 2021 exhibition of Christmas greetings by modern British artists?
- Source: "How to get my ho-ho-ho mojo back? In their print room, Pallant House in Chichester have mounted an exhibition, Christmas Greetings by Modern British Artists. Here are more than a hundred offerings from Edward Bawden, Ben Nicholson, John Piper and John Craxton. There is a marvellous David Jones engraving of a candlelit mass and Emily Sutton’s cat that got the Christmas pud. Ed Kluz, whose architectural drawings lean towards the gothic (follow him on Instagram), gives us a lovely, lonely city church with a Star of Bethlehem above. Ben Nicholson’s Christmas card of 1939 is a marbled, modernist grid with coolly geometric snowballs, while Gary Hume, once a YBA, moulds a snowman of minimal spheres. Barnett Freedman goes wassailing in his lithographic Christmas card of 1953, Edward Bawden’s linocut lion rampages through the presents and Mark Hearld’s hand-coloured winter thrush rings the round robin changes. There’s a bookmark-shaped Christmas card by Enid Marx wishing recipients not Merry Christmas, but a Happy New Year. Perhaps she was running even later than I am." The Spectator
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jordan Watkins
- Comment: For Christmas Eve/ Christmas Day
Thriley (talk) 20:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 23:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Interesting: - Not concise enough; see below.
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Overall: Moved from draftspace five days before nom and sized at 2012 B. Page is reliably sourced and everything is verified. The lede is short, but consider this fix optional. Wasn't sure if the "thrush" was intriguing, but the weirdness and linking of the word helps. However, the hook doesn't feel concise enough and I'm having trouble making a hook that doesn't duplicate "Christmas card" and isn't short, but these two fit the bill enough:
- ALT1: ... that one of the designs shown at an all-Christmas card exhibition was "a hand-coloured winter thrush" by artist Mark Hearld? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT2: ... that "a hand-coloured winter thrush" by artist Mark Hearld appeared on one of the Christmas cards for a specialised exhibition?Source: Same as ALT0
Oh, and I found another one while checking at Earwig, it's more interesting and this is in case it's not done in time for Christmases Eve or Day.
- ALT3A: ... that Mark Hearld works "with the idea of the artist working as a designer rather than making images to stick in a frame"? Source: He has also been strongly influenced by mid-twentieth century art and design, “with the idea of the artist working as a designer rather than making images to stick in a frame”.
- ALT3B: ... that artist Mark Hearld works "with the idea of the artist working as a designer rather than making images to stick in a frame"?
@Thriley: Thoughts? ミラP@Miraclepine 00:23, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. I’m going to add a bit more to the article. There’s some good potential hooks about his home I’d like to add. Thriley (talk) 06:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Thriley: You're welcome. I'll follow this page and recommend adding to the lede. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Jack Browning
( )- ... that in 2022, college football player Jack Browning was named All-Mountain West Conference at three different positions?
- Source: SDSU website ("Also earned first-team all-MW accolades at punter by Pro Football Focus, Phil Steele Magazine and College Football Network, and as a kickoff specialist by College Football Network, and a fourth-team honoree at kicker by Phil Steele Magazine")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mohamed Aw-Ali Abdi & Template:Did you know nominations/Anthony E. Wills
- Comment:
Will complete QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC).
- Intresting, factual, QPQ done, earwig doenst flag anything major. Good job Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have temporarily pulled the hook from Prep as the above review is incomplete and did not check all of the DYK criteria, particularly with regards to article newness, length, or referencing. Pulling to give OlifanofmrTennant an opportunity to provide a more complete review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 13
Valdez Creek
( )- ... that despite being mined since the early 20th century, the mother lode for Valdez Creek has not been found?
- Source 1: Jane Suhey's MsC thesis, https://scholarworks.alaska.edu/handle/11122/14973, pages 11-12
- Source 2: Geologic Report RB04EXE-1, Avalon Development Corp., https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1023109/000113717104001167/georeport.htm, pages iv & 33
- Reviewed:
Subarcticsensing (talk) 19:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC).
- @Subarcticsensing: New enough (expansion started Dec 13), long enough, no QPQ needed. However, this slightly falls short of a 5x expansion: the revision from before your expansion was 927 B, compared to the current revision with 4333 B, which is only about 4.6x expanded. If you are able to expand the article a bit more, I will approve this. Furthermore, I slightly question the sourcing of the hook fact—per WP:SCHOLARSHIP, masters theses are usually not reliable, unless they have been cited a lot. A different source will probably be needed. Hook itself is interesting, and article is otherwise quite well-done. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 21:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: Thanks for the feedback and quick turnaround. I did some more expansions on what I could do tonight, so it's at 5312 chars for now. I added another source from Avalon Development Corp. in the lead dated in 2004, which is saying that there's strong evidence for more gold that hasn't been found. Could play with the wording on the first iteration. Most sources I've been through have said things along the line of "there is strong evidence for more gold" but none have gone so far to say that it hasn't been found, which I understand as authors hedging their bets on if it actually exists. The citation that Suhey uses is from 1981, so it's a bit dated, and the other citation that they give doesn't seem to be published yet. Subarcticsensing (talk) 03:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Subarcticsensing: Sorry I haven't gotten back to this until now; I must have missed the ping. I can confirm that the article has now been expanded 5x. As for the hook, perhaps I could suggest a phrasing like:
ALT0b: ...that although Valdez Creek has been mined since the early 20th century, surveys suggest a high chance of undiscovered gold?
This reflects the statement in the latter source (Avalon Development Corp.).— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Subarcticsensing: Sorry I haven't gotten back to this until now; I must have missed the ping. I can confirm that the article has now been expanded 5x. As for the hook, perhaps I could suggest a phrasing like:
- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: Thanks for the feedback and quick turnaround. I did some more expansions on what I could do tonight, so it's at 5312 chars for now. I added another source from Avalon Development Corp. in the lead dated in 2004, which is saying that there's strong evidence for more gold that hasn't been found. Could play with the wording on the first iteration. Most sources I've been through have said things along the line of "there is strong evidence for more gold" but none have gone so far to say that it hasn't been found, which I understand as authors hedging their bets on if it actually exists. The citation that Suhey uses is from 1981, so it's a bit dated, and the other citation that they give doesn't seem to be published yet. Subarcticsensing (talk) 03:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Madagascar banana
( )- ... that there are only three mature Madagascar banana trees?
- Source: "Only five mature individuals of E. perrieri have been previously identified in the whole of Madagascar, and a recent survey has suggested that now only three of these may be left (Analavelona, Ampefy and Maintirano areas)." https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana
ALT1: ... that the Madagascar banana is critically endangered?Source: https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana- Reviewed:
- Comment: No QPQ required as Laffuble will own this DYK as you can see from talk page. I (Chidgk1) just put it in for them and will deal with any questions they might be unsure about being relatively new to Misplaced Pages
Chidgk1 (talk) 16:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Hello Laffuble, welcome to DYK, I hope you have a wonderful time here! I have a few concerns regarding the article which I will outline below, and will ping Chidgk1 since there are outstanding inquiries about the state of this article:
ALT0 is truthfully the most interesting of the two hooks proposed. Plenty of things out there are critically endangered, it is a conservation category onto itself. The severely restricted population serves as a much better hook. However, the hook as it stands right now is not supported by the material within the article and the source, which states there are five mature individuals rather than three. I will strike ALT1 from consideration.
iNaturalist is not a good source for the plant's morphology, nor is Rarepalmseeds, which is a site with commercial interests. A much better source for that information is either a study or the original description, if it can be located. iNaturalist's image gallery being a source falls into WP:OR. Google Scholar is a helpful source for finding research papers regarding Ensete perrieri, if you're stuck finding trustworthy sources.
Earwig detects no copyvio issues, long enough, and new enough. I hope this can be of help to you! Ornithoptera (talk) 07:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
@Ornithoptera: We have made some changes - is it ok now?
- Chidgk1 My apologies but I see that you have simply replaced the problematic sources for the “Description” section, rather than consulting the source and making the necessary changes to the article using the information presented there. That will not be enough to allow for the article to pass scrutiny. Would you be able to take a look at the source rather than simply replacing the original citations? In addition, the hook has not been updated per my request, since it is not supported by the article text. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've taken a look at the cited article and the description for E. perrieri is as follows:
Ensete perrieri (Claverie) comb. nov. ; Musa perrieri P. Claverie in Comptes Rendus Acad. Sci. Paris 140 (1905), 1612, nomen, et in Ann. us. Colon. Marseille ser. 2, vol. 7 (1909), p. 74, descr. cum ic. t. 8.
, this will not serve as a viable source for the passage. I would be most ideal to first consult with the source before using it in the article. I noticed that you and Laffuble had issues with accessing sources, the Misplaced Pages library at WP:LIB, if you have made enough edits, can be a great resource since it has institutional access to several journals that can be of use. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:16, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've taken a look at the cited article and the description for E. perrieri is as follows:
@Ornithoptera: Thanks for explaining Misplaced Pages Library. Have added quote for hook - is hook OK now? If there are any remaining problems with the description please could you comment in the talk page section below this as it is easier to reply.Chidgk1 (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Chidgk1, I really want to emphasize to you and Laffuble that you should both read the issues I have outlined with the article. Only a few significant edits that I have outlined have been addressed properly, I will break the issues down line by line so that it can be easier to guide you in going about the necessary edits.
- The text in the original description section has not been changed to match the source. The source was simply replaced, with the passage's text not significantly changed to address the new source. On top of this, Annales du Muśee colonial de Marseille does not explicitly identify this as E. perrieri. Unless the source is beyond a reasonable doubt that it is E. perrieri, it is not the most ideal. I would emphasize that it is most ideal to have the entire section re-written and updated to reflect sources that explicitly include a description of E. perrieri.
- Hi, Chidgk1, I really want to emphasize to you and Laffuble that you should both read the issues I have outlined with the article. Only a few significant edits that I have outlined have been addressed properly, I will break the issues down line by line so that it can be easier to guide you in going about the necessary edits.
Laffuble Are you able to deal with this? If you are at uni maybe the librarian there can advise? I don't think there is any rush now so if you cannot fix it please contact me after Xmas and I will root around in the Misplaced Pages library mentioned above.
- iNaturalist is not a reliable source. It is a social media site that provides valuable insight, but the information cannot be considered reliable as anyone can upload an observation and provide faulty information.
@Ornithoptera: You are right that most info on iNaturalist is from members of the public so should not be cited, however the few photos which they classify as "research grade" are reliable in my opinion. If you disgree I will be happy to start a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard so we can get more thoughts on it. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I really want to assist this DYK make it through, but I really would like to have all necessary edits be done before I am alerted to allow for it to pass. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Tarif-i Husain Shahi
( )- ... that in the illustrated manuscript Tarif-i Husain Shahi, the image of the queen sitting on the king's lap was washed away by her son?
- Source: Michell, George; Zebrowski, Mark (1999-06-10). Architecture and Art of the Deccan Sultanates (PDF). Cambridge University Press. p. 147.
Partly scratched away but still visible, perched on the sultan's knee like the consort of a Hindu god, it must be Khanzada Humayun (Fig. 108). The portraits document her rise and fall, for, like the other two Muslim women who managed to rule India, Nur Jahan and Raziya Sultana, her fortunes ultimately suffered a terrible reversal. Painted into the manuscript in 1565, at the height of her influence, her figure must have been removed in 1569, when, after four years of rule as regent, she was imprisoned by her rebellious son, anxious to accede to his father's throne. We further assume that the vandal, not realising that the heroine of the dohada page was also the queen, as the king does not accompany her, left it undisturbed
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Please feel free to make changes to the alt; Its wording seems a bit awkward to me
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 19:05, 13 December 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1 = ... that the illustrated manuscript Tarif-i Husain Shahi contains one of the rare depictions of a queen in Islamic art?" Source: Michell, George; Zebrowski, Mark (1999-06-10). Architecture and Art of the Deccan Sultanates (PDF). Cambridge University Press. p. 145.
The text stresses the rule of both Husain and Khanzada Humayun. Such political prominence was rare for women in Islamic society in India and the Middle East, and female portraiture did not exist. Female figures in Persian miniatures are the heroines of poetic romance, not real women. The Tarif proves to be deeply unorthodox and highly significant, for the queen herself appears in six of its twelve illustrations!
Decolonization is Not a Metaphor
( )- ... that the title of a paper calling for the return of the United States to Indigenous sovereignty has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors?
- Source: Combination of
Indigenous sovereignty was never ceded, and the continued presence of settlers is essentially illegitimate.
and which explains how "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor". The paper itself as a primary source also supports the first part of the hook.
- Reviewed:
Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC).
Thus far, I have been unable to verify that the paper "calls for the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty." Neither of the two sources you cite above appear to support the statement, they just say the paper calls for a stricter interpretation of the meaning of the word "decolonization", which is a very different thing. Gatoclass (talk) 22:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: That's a very good point. What about "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate?" Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 22:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, you would need a source for that statement. Gatoclass (talk) 22:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: This is very verbose, but what about that the title of a paper describing the continued presence of non-indigenous in the United States as being illegitimate has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors? The claim that settler presence in the United States is supported by the source, the only thing I've done is explained "settler" as being "non-Indigenous" because the average person would be more likely to understand that. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, a quote from a source confirming the hook statement would be required at minimum. But these suggestions thus far all look a little tortured to me. How about keeping it simple and straightforward, something like:
- ALT4: ... that the title of a 2012 academic paper, "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor", has been adopted as a slogan by pro-Palestinian protestors? Gatoclass (talk) 06:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Sure, that works. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 06:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: This is very verbose, but what about that the title of a paper describing the continued presence of non-indigenous in the United States as being illegitimate has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors? The claim that settler presence in the United States is supported by the source, the only thing I've done is explained "settler" as being "non-Indigenous" because the average person would be more likely to understand that. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, you would need a source for that statement. Gatoclass (talk) 22:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Having looked a little more closely at the article, I'm not sure your interpretation of the paper is accurate. Certainly, it's a difficult text to come to grips with - at least for me, as it contains a lot of academic jargon that tends to obscure the authors' meaning to a non-professional in the field. But for example, you state: "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate must be redressed by decolonization". Did he really say that? Because I would have thought that if he had, the paper would be more notorious than merely influential. On the other hand, if he is only saying that that's what decolonization must mean, he is simply defining a term rather than arguing in favour of it, and there is a world of difference between the two.
However, since most of the article is sourced directly to the paper itself, without clarifying quotes, it's hard to know whether your interpretation is accurate. I'm not even entirely sure if the paper itself doesn't count as a primary source here, which might also be problematic.
So, is there any chance you could provide some actual quotes from the paper, or better still perhaps, reliable secondary sources that have written about it, in order to clarify the point? Because I think it's obviously an important distinction to get right. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 06:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: The article is far from perfect and I welcome suggestions to improve it as I'm less experienced than I should be with writing from scratch.
- I looked into this when you raised it the first time. The closest thing in the text I can find right now is
We don’t intend to discourage those who have dedicated careers and lives to teaching themselves and others to be critically conscious of racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, xenophobia, and settler colonialism. We are asking them/you to consider how the pursuit of critical consciousness, the pursuit of social justice through a critical enlightenment, can also be settler moves to innocence - diversions, distractions, which relieve the settler of feelings of guilt or responsibility, and conceal the need to give up land or power or privilege.
(emphasis mine)- So, the authors explicitly acknowledge a need for settlers to give up land. Likewise, page 10 of the paper criticizes decolonial scholars that enable "settler moves to innocence". I will likely have to make the article more directly explain what Tuck and Yang said, with better inline citations.
- Also, Eve Tuck is a woman with she/her pronouns (at least on her website). Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 07:51, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: This is a bit of a drive-by comment (I haven't looked closely at the wiki article itself), but as someone from this academic discipline who has often seen this article cited/discussed in the field, I'd say it's completely accurate to say that "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate must be redressed by decolonization"
, that the article "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate"
, and that "the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty"
is what "decolonization" ought to mean. The impact of the article is more like "let's stop saying we're decolonizing when we're just close-reading a novel" than it is "let's decolonize the US for real immediately!" but I haven't seen any exaggerations or misinterpretation of its argument here. I do think ALT4 is the clearest and best hook, though. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but we can't base content-related decisions on the testimony of wikipedia editors, we need reliable sources to verify content. So again, either clear quotes from the article that the authors are actually endorsing decolonization of the US, or critiques from reliable secondary sources supporting such an interpretation (although other interpretations would also have to be included if they exist to provide balance). Gatoclass (talk) 07:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
I have to agree with Gatoclass on this; plus I have some other concerns. What we have here is a summary of the paper, but not anything that meaningfully demonstrates why this topic is encyclopedic. A one sentence line saying the paper is influential isn't going to cut it. We need details on how it is influential and who is claiming it is influential. Additionally, we need to see different critical responses to this paper through quotes in published reviews, both positive and negative to meet our WP:POV policies. The current text relies too heavily on the paper itself which is inappropriate as the paper is the subject and is therefore a primary document in this case. Additionally, it isn't clear that the summation of the paper is entirely accurate and is not an original analysis of the paper which would run afoul of WP:SYNTH. What we need here is more reliance on critical analysis and reviews of the paper, and text which more closely aligns with the meaning in the sources without being so close as to be considered plagiarism. The use of clarifying quotes from the paper could also assist in this (ie let the paper speak for itself in key places). It's a difficult line to walk. Additionally, the current text of the article lacks any meaningful critical engagement with the text; to the point that I would consider this incomplete (ie fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE).
In short, we need a decrease in reliance on the paper itself as a cited reference and an increase in reliance on secondary sources about the paper with more critical engagement highlighted. A significant amount of work is needed before this can pass a DYK review. Aside from this, I think Alt4 is a good hook that is usable. It is verified to the cited reference and is interesting. I think these issues are solvable. Ping me when the article has been improved and needs a second look.4meter4 (talk) 20:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Update. In just doing a cursory look in google scholar, SAGE and JSTOR, there are many articles that cite and summarize Tuck and Yang's paper which could be used to source the summary. There are also multiple publications which respond to the work, both affirming and questioning the limits of its praxis. This type of critical commentary is exactly what is needed in this article. I suggest the nominator rewrite the summary based on these types of secondary sources, and create a critical reaction section. 4meter4 (talk) 04:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 14
The Valiant Girl White Rose
( )- ... that the "white rose" in The Valiant Girl White Rose refers to both its star and character, but neither share a name?
- Source: Zhang, Zhen (2005). An Amorous History of the Silver Screen: Shanghai Cinema, 1896–1937. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. ISBN 978-0-226-98238-0.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Haliey Welch, Template:Did you know nominations/Ratnākara
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:12, 14 December 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing this as a QPQ requirement. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is almost good to go:
- Article is long and new enough.
- Article is well-sourced
- Article passes Earwig tool.
- Most of the article is sourced on books that are not available online. I can accept this AGF. Article subject does exist.
- Article is presentable; no tags at all.
- Hook is short enough
- Hook is mildly interesting, but can possibly be rewritten to be hookier. I would suggest having a cast and characters section to drive home this fact, showing Wu Suxin who plays Bai Suyin are both "white roses".
- Photo in article is appropriately tagged.
- QPQ has been done
- There are no other issues.
- Howard the Duck (talk) 00:01, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- The article already has "The title of the film, The Valiant Girl White Rose, drew both on the name of its star and on contemporary vernacular. Wu Suxin was also active under the name White Rose Woo, though in the film the name is associated with Bai Suyin's propensity for wearing roses." I don't see how a cast and crew section will help. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:05, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 15
The Man in the Yellow Tie
( )- ... that Brandon Routh found it easier to return for The Flash than he did to return for Legends of Tomorrow despite being a regular on the latter?
- ALT1: ... that the The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" concludes a plotline established two years prior on a different show? Source: https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a40319869/the-flash-john-diggle-arrow/
- ALT2: ... that for The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" both Tom Cavanagh and Matt Letscher reprise their role as Eobard Thawne? Source: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/the-flash-that-eobard-thawne-twist-in-the-man-in-the-yellow-tie-explained/
- ALT3: ... that the The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" guest stars Matt Letscher and Tom Cavanagh as Eobard Thawne and Eobard Thawne respectively? Source: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/the-flash-that-eobard-thawne-twist-in-the-man-in-the-yellow-tie-explained/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jack Browning
- Comment: The first source is from a blog interview with Routh.
Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Great hooks! I think ALT1 and ALT2 are most interesting, though I recommend removing "the The Flash episode" from each for concision/more of a surprising effect. I am approving ALT2 as properly cited as-is. The "two years" claim in ALT1 isn't entirely verified by the currently cited source, but (from the article) does verify it, so I'll say that's also approved.
I am requesting another reviewer take a look at this, since this is my first DYK review. By the way, OlifanofmrTennant, you are free to dispense commas more liberally throughout your (article) prose, which I have done for you here :) Toadspike 18:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Giving a second review as requested above. Verifying that the nomination was done on time, the article was long enough, and is free of close paraphrasing. The done QPQ, however, is slightly incomplete. OlifanofmrTennant forgot to also check for the article's newness (according to DYK requirements) and length. She also forgot to verify the hook and to check if it was cited inline. Given the issues, I would suggest replacing the provided QPQ with a more complete review of another article. More pressingly for this nomination, however, is the sentence verifying ALT2 (the only hook I'd personally approve) lacks a footnote: the relevant footnote is instead located in the next sentence. The ref has to be duplicated for DYK verification purposes. Otherwise, Toadspike did a pretty good job for a first review and I hope he takes the above second review for tips in their future reviews. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've been holding onto a few other QPQs so here is another: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas (goose) I have taken your advise and rechecked the nomination and everything checks out Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Please make it clear in the original review, making sure to check all the DYK criteria listed in WP:DYKRI. Regarding Thomas (goose), the provided QPQ did not check for article length, only newness, so that has to be corrected for that QPQ to count as well. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've been holding onto a few other QPQs so here is another: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas (goose) I have taken your advise and rechecked the nomination and everything checks out Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Giving a second review as requested above. Verifying that the nomination was done on time, the article was long enough, and is free of close paraphrasing. The done QPQ, however, is slightly incomplete. OlifanofmrTennant forgot to also check for the article's newness (according to DYK requirements) and length. She also forgot to verify the hook and to check if it was cited inline. Given the issues, I would suggest replacing the provided QPQ with a more complete review of another article. More pressingly for this nomination, however, is the sentence verifying ALT2 (the only hook I'd personally approve) lacks a footnote: the relevant footnote is instead located in the next sentence. The ref has to be duplicated for DYK verification purposes. Otherwise, Toadspike did a pretty good job for a first review and I hope he takes the above second review for tips in their future reviews. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: amended Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 11:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 16
Dubai chocolate
( )- ... that Dubai chocolate has become so expensive, it is being smuggled and sold on the black market?
- Source: From border seizures to supermarket shelves: Dubai chocolate fever in Hungary, dailynewshungary.com, Man Caught Smuggling 45 Kg Of Dubai Chocolate Over The Swiss Border, falstaff.com, Dubai chocolate a global frenzy: Germans smuggle and queue up for hours in cold for these luxury Lindt bars indiatimes.com, The socials made me do it: The viral Dubai chocolate bar, ladlesandlinens.com
- Reviewed:
Killarnee (talk) 15:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comments by Tbhotch
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems: - See below
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - See below
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: A newly created article that is long enough. No QPQ required. No copyvio issues.
- The hook is interesting, but the source in the article says "secondary market", not black market.
- There is a contradiction. The first section starts with "Fix Dessert Chocolatier was founded in Dubai in September 2022". Immediately below it says "Sarah Hamouda, who founded the company Fix Dessert Chocolatiers in the Emirate of Dubai in 2021, claimed to be the inventor of the Dubai chocolate". Ignoring the "Chocolatier(s)" inconsistency throughout the page, this first needs to be fixed.
- I added a few maintenance tags that need to be solved as well. (CC) Tbhotch 02:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
@Tbhotch: I've gone ahead and fixed several problems with the article, please have a look now. Thanks, jolielover♥talk 08:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Reviewing... (CC) Tbhotch 20:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
2014–15 College Football Playoff
( )... that the championship game of the inaugural College Football Playoff was the most-watched cable television broadcast in history? Source: https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2015/01/college-football-playoff-national-championship-espn/- ALT1: ... that Alabama, Florida State, Ohio State, and Oregon participated in the inaugural College Football Playoff?
- ALT2: ... that the first game of the inaugural College Football Playoff was the first edition of the Rose Bowl in which a team scored more than fifty points?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/NCAA Season 7 basketball tournaments, Template:Did you know nominations/Amata of Assisi
PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC).
- Should it be specified to be American history? The current wording is vague and doesn't state if it was worldwide or just in the US. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: the source wording is a little vague as well:
Ohio State’s 42-20 victory over Oregon at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas – averaged 33,395,000 viewers and an 18.2 US household rating, according to Nielsen, delivering both the largest audience and highest rating in cable television history.
The Nielsen rating is definitely US-only and I think the same is true for the viewers but it's not explicitly stated one way or the other. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: the source wording is a little vague as well:
- Given that it is an exceptional claim and given with the circumstances it will almost certainly find scrutiny on WT:DYK and/or WP:ERRORS, it may be for the best to propose a new hook using a totally different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 17
1925 Tri-State tornado
( ) Track of the 1925 Tri-State tornado- ... that the 1925 Tri-State tornado (track pictured) had a path length of 219 miles (352 km) across three states?
- ALT1: ... that the 1925 Tri-State tornado (track pictured) was the deadliest in United States history? Source: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/killers.html
- ALT2: ... that despite being on the ground for almost four hours, no known photographs exist of the 1925 Tri-State tornado (track pictured)? Source: https://www.weather.gov/pah/1925tornado_p
- ALT3: ... that meteorologists stated that the 1925 Tri-State tornado (track pictured) was "unusually severe"? Source: https://inside.nssl.noaa.gov/nsslnews/2013/05/scientists-re-visit-the-tri-state-tornado/
- ALT4: ... that the 1925 Tri-State tornado (track pictured) is often refered to as the "Great Tri-State tornado"? Source: https://kids.britannica.com/students/article/Tri-State-Tornado-of-1925/623410
- ALT5: ... that the 1925 Tri-State tornado (track pictured) hit nine schools? Source: https://www.iccsafe.org/building-safety-journal/bsj-hits/today-in-history-the-tri-state-tornado/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christum wir sollen loben schon, BWV 121
- Comment: Very surprised this tornado didn't have an article prior to today.
EF 15:27, 17 December 2024 (UTC).
- Per WP:DYKSPLIT, splits from non-new articles are not considered "recently created"; instead, they are treated as expansions from the copied material. Since the third revision seems to be the point where you switched from copying to writing new prose, I'll calculate from there. That version had 23601 characters of prose, and the current version has 26147 – nowhere near close to a fivefold expansion. However, I see that you have nominated the article for GA; if it passes, that would make it eligible for DYK. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jlwoodwa: GA passed. Do you still mind reviewing? EF 16:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Adequate sourcing: - I see that the unsourced sentence at the end of 1925 Tri-State tornado § Legacy has already been discussed, but WP:DYKCITE says that all content that could reasonably be challenged must be cited to a reliable source. I think Misplaced Pages:When sources are wrong could be helpful here.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - ALT3 is not present in the article. I don't think the phrase
also called the Great Tri-State Tornado
(from the "Kids Britannica" source) supports ALT4's claim ofoften refered to
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- Other problems: - I'm not sure about ALT0's status as a "definite fact" (WP:DYKHOOK), given the extensive doubts described in 1925 Tri-State tornado § Legacy. Similarly, ALT2 is present and sourced in the article, but then contradicted in the same paragraph.
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Overall: @EF5: You gave two online sources for ALT1 and ALT5, but the article cites different, offline sources for their claims. This isn't a huge deal, since {{DYKtickAGF}} exists, but it would feel a little silly to use that when online sources are right here. Regardless, once the unsourced sentence is resolved I'm ready to approve either hook. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:08, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done, removed uncited claim. EF 06:18, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- @EF5: Sorry for missing this earlier – I just realized that while ALT1 (deadliest US tornado) is stated in the lead (without citation), I can't find it in the body. 1925 Tri-State tornado § Fatalities compares it with other tornadoes, e.g.
more students killed … than in any other tornadic event in U.S. history
andkilled at least 20 farm owners … more than the combined total of the next four deadliest tornadoes in the history of the United States
, but doesn't compare the total deaths. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)- @Jlwoodwa: Fixed. This week's tornado - EF 19:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Sorry for missing this earlier – I just realized that while ALT1 (deadliest US tornado) is stated in the lead (without citation), I can't find it in the body. 1925 Tri-State tornado § Fatalities compares it with other tornadoes, e.g.
Articles created/expanded on December 18
Vĩnh Điện River
( )- ... that the Vĩnh Điện River is called Tứ Câu after Tứ Câu bridge, Cổ Mân in Cổ Mân village, and Mân Quang in Mân Quang village?
Cũng như nhiều sông khác, sông Vĩnh Điện chảy qua địa phương nào thì mang tên địa phương đó: sông Tứ Câu (đoạn sông từ cầu Tứ Câu xuống hạ lưu); sông Cổ Mân (đoạn qua làng Cổ Mân, phường Hòa Xuân, quận Cẩm Lệ); sông Mân Quang (đoạn qua làng Mân Quang, phường Hòa Quý, quận Ngũ Hành Sơn).
Like many other rivers, the Vĩnh Điện river carries the name of whatever locality it flows through: Tứ Câu river (the stretch of the river downstream of Tứ Câu bridge); Cổ Mân river (the stretch passing Cổ Mân village, Hòa Xuan ward, Cẩm Lệ district); Mân Quang village (the stretch passing Mân Quang village, Hòa Quý ward, Ngũ Hành Sơn district).- Reviewed:
MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 03:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC).
- Hello, and welcome to DYK. Unfortunately, the hook as currently written does not meet WP:DYKINT. Specifically, as currently written, the proposed hook is unlikely to catch the attention or appreciation of Main Page readers. If you need any help in proposing another hook, please do not hesitate to reach out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t see why not. What’s wrong with it? MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 03:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Essentially, the hook as currently written is not "hooky". That is, it doesn't give a good reason for readers of the main page to click on the article to find out more. It doesn't catch attention, is a bit hard to understand, and doesn't seem to be very interesting if at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 MuDavid ALT1 ... that the Vĩnh Điện River is a canal that was dug in the 1820s on the order of emperor Minh Mạng of the Nguyễn dynasty?
- ALT2 ... that the Vĩnh Điện River was used to transport sugar and cinnamon for international export in the 1840s? SL93 (talk) 00:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 is a better hook and closer to what we are looking for. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Essentially, the hook as currently written is not "hooky". That is, it doesn't give a good reason for readers of the main page to click on the article to find out more. It doesn't catch attention, is a bit hard to understand, and doesn't seem to be very interesting if at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Aon v Australian National University
( )- ... that in Aon v Australian National University, the High Court of Australia ruled that judges can deny amendments to pleadings if they conflict with case management priorities?
— MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:10, 18 December 2024 (UTC).
- @MaxnaCarta: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Lyons p558 checks out as the source. (Have you thought about shortened footnotes with how often you cite that source?) I just wish the hook was a little more, uh, hooky. Right now, it's as dry as Mt Stromlo before the bushfires. Can we try something like this? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Aon v Australian National University overturned a precedent that encouraged litigation-prolonging amendments to pleadings?
- @Sammi Brie: Thanks alot for reviewing. Footnotes will be changed if I nom for GA, definitely. Im happy with the proposed alt hook. Thanks! — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- For someone else to approve the ALT1 hook (same source) since I suggested it. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:51, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 19
Wilson Warbirds
( )- ... that the Wilson Warbirds were nearly named the "Wilson Whirligigs" after the folk artist Vollis Simpson's whirligig sculptures in the town? (Source)
- ALT1: ... that the creation of the Wilson Warbirds was met with widespread disappointment from officials in the adjacent county? (Source)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Okinawa Prefecture
- Comment: I'm sorry I'm two days late on this nom! I'm hoping for an eligibility extension per WP:DYKG: The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request. Cheers!
Johnson524 17:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC).
Yogini with a Mynah Bird
( )- ... that the Yogini with a Mynah Bird has been described as a "Medusa-like" sorceress symbolizing "seductive heresies"?
- Source: Zebrowski, Mark (1983). Deccani painting. p. 104.
In the Dublin picture (82 and col. pl. x11), she appears asa religious mendicant, or yogini, her body smeared with ash, endowed with special powers resulting from severe austerities. Her magical, rather than her saintly qualities are stressed. She is a sorceress, wearing extravagant jewels, secretly communicating with a bird. Her face is strange and exotic, like a ferangi, or European. Fantastic plants undulate beside her. Her gleaming palace beckons to us, but its stony whiteness is like a tomb. Ibrahim Adil Shah, himself immersed in unorthodox rites, must have been intrigued by the picture's dark ambiguities. The Yogini may symbolize the seductive heresies which rivalled Islam for the young king's mind.
- ALT1: ... that the Yogini with a Mynah Bird may symbolize "seductive heresies" enticing its patron away from Islam?
- Source: Zebrowski, Mark (1983). Deccani painting. p. 104.
In the Dublin picture (82 and col. pl. x11), she appears asa religious mendicant, or yogini, her body smeared with ash, endowed with special powers resulting from severe austerities. Her magical, rather than her saintly qualities are stressed. She is a sorceress, wearing extravagant jewels, secretly communicating with a bird. Her face is strange and exotic, like a ferangi, or European. Fantastic plants undulate beside her. Her gleaming palace beckons to us, but its stony whiteness is like a tomb. Ibrahim Adil Shah, himself immersed in unorthodox rites, must have been intrigued by the picture's dark ambiguities. The Yogini may symbolize the seductive heresies which rivalled Islam for the young king's mind.
- ALT2: ... that the Yogini with a Mynah Bird has been described as a "Medusa-like" sorceress representing "seductive heresies"?
- Source: Zebrowski, Mark (1983). Deccani painting. p. 104.
In the Dublin picture (82 and col. pl. x11), she appears asa religious mendicant, or yogini, her body smeared with ash, endowed with special powers resulting from severe austerities. Her magical, rather than her saintly qualities are stressed. She is a sorceress, wearing extravagant jewels, secretly communicating with a bird. Her face is strange and exotic, like a ferangi, or European. Fantastic plants undulate beside her. Her gleaming palace beckons to us, but its stony whiteness is like a tomb. Ibrahim Adil Shah, himself immersed in unorthodox rites, must have been intrigued by the picture's dark ambiguities. The Yogini may symbolize the seductive heresies which rivalled Islam for the young king's mind.
- ALT3: ... that the Yogini with a Mynah Bird has the attributes of an ascetic as well as a princess?
- Source: Goswamy, B. N. Ruminations: 101 & more short essays on the spirit of Indian art. Penguin Random House India Private Limited. ISBN 978-93-6790-887-7.
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 09:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on December 20
Lars Chemnitz
( )- ... that Lars Chemnitz was the joint-first recipient of the Nersornaat, the highest honor in Greenland?
- Source: see comment below
- ALT1: ... that Lars Chemnitz was the joint-first person to receive the highest honor of Greenland? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brachyrhaphis roseni (1/2)
- Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours. Note that for this, the source is the offline ref 17: René Westh, Jan (December 2010). "Grønlands fortjenstmedalje Nersornaat" . Ordenshistorisk Tidsskrift (in Danish). Ordenshistorisk Selskab: 20. I haven't looked at the source myself, but this was included at the German Misplaced Pages article for Chemnitz () as a reference for him being the joint-first recipient of the award ("Zudem war er gemeinsam mit Jonathan Motzfeldt der erste Empfänger des Nersornaat, den er am 1. Mai 1989 in Gold erhielt" "). The creator of the German article seems to be a prominent Greenland editor at de.wikipedia, so I'd be inclined to assume that the editor was correct, although if you think I should try to verify it myself (or contact that user), let me know.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC).
Troupeau Bleu
( )- ... that the 1975 French jazz-funk album Troupeau Bleu has been sampled by hip-hop artists at least 142 times (and counting) ever since the nineties?
- Source: It’s a familiar name if you’ve spent long enough digging for the samples of your favorite rap tracks: Troupeau Bleu has been sampled at least 142 times to date, with its blend of psychedelic jazz, soul, and funk finding its way into songs by underground legends like DOOM and J Dilla, along with rap royalty including Lupe Fiasco on “Mural” and Rick Ross on “Amsterdam,” “Oyster Perpetual,” “Everything a Dope Boy Ever Wanted,” and Jeezy’s “Beautiful.” https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/cortex-troupeau-bleu-tyler-creator-madlib-1234584701/
- ALT1: ... that some hip-hop artists consider Cortex's 1975 debut studio album Troupeau Bleu to be hip-hop's favorite jazz album? Source: With the prolific use of Troupeau Bleu in hip-hop for over two decades, would it be fair to anoint the record as hip-hop’s favorite jazz album? “It’s not an overstatement,” says New York drill wunderkind Cash Cobain. “It’s a fact.” Cash Cobain discovered Cortex when he heard Tyler’s “Odd Toddlers” in 2009 and has been a fan of the jazz band since then, going on to produce Yachty’s “Cortex” 12 years later. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/cortex-troupeau-bleu-tyler-creator-madlib-1234584701/
- ALT2: ... that the 1975 French jazz-funk album Troupeau Bleu by Cortex has been sampled at least 142 times (and counting) by hip-hop artists like MF DOOM, Madlib, Lupe Fiasco, Rick Ross, and Tyler, the Creator? Source: It’s a familiar name if you’ve spent long enough digging for the samples of your favorite rap tracks: Troupeau Bleu has been sampled at least 142 times to date, with its blend of psychedelic jazz, soul, and funk finding its way into songs by underground legends like DOOM and J Dilla, along with rap royalty including Lupe Fiasco on “Mural” and Rick Ross on “Amsterdam,” “Oyster Perpetual,” “Everything a Dope Boy Ever Wanted,” and Jeezy’s “Beautiful.”The most recognizable selections come from “Huit Octobre 1971,” a song named after Mion’s wedding anniversary with his late wife. Vocalist Mirelle Dalbray’s angelic high-pitched scatting and Alain Gandolfi’s frenzied drum breaks have been also used in DOOM’s Madlib-produced “One Beer,” Tyler, the Creator’s “Odd Toddlers,” Wiz Khalifa’s “Visions,” and Lil Yachty’s aptly-named “Cortex,” among dozens of other songs. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/cortex-troupeau-bleu-tyler-creator-madlib-1234584701/
- ALT3: ... that the French jazz-funk band Cortex, which retired in 1981, was able to restart in 2009 thanks to newfound interest in their 1975 debut album, Troupeau Bleu, by hip-hop musicians and enthusiasts? Source: While Mion and Gandolfini would record several more albums with various collaborators, the band ran its course by 1981. It wouldn't be until decades later that Troupeau Bleu achieved its legendary status as an intoxicating secret weapon of rare groove DJs and later hip-hop producers. First sampled by DJ Cam on his experimental track "Bronx Theme" in 1997, the album would be used repeatedly in the 2000s and beyond by such notables as Dilla, MF Doom, Rick Ross, Tyler, the Creator, Flying Lotus, Lupe Fiasco and many others.The sampling would revive interest in the group, leading Mion to put together a new line-up of the band in 2009 for performances in the UK and Europe as well as reissues of the original Cortex albums and previously unreleased material seeing the light of day. https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/cortex-french-jazz-funk-uc-berkeley-theatre/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Florida State University academic-athletic scandal
Phibeatrice (talk) 05:05, 21 December 2024 (UTC).
Theresia Bauer
( )- ... that Theresia Bauer was named science minister of the year four times?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Qvadriga
- Comment: "Science Minister of the Year" in 2013, 2015, 2016 and 2022
Moondragon21 (talk) 15:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but I have tagged this article due to having some unsourced paragraphs. ミラP@Miraclepine 21:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, there are now references for the unsourced sections. Moondragon21 (talk) 07:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC).
Wu Zhong (general)
( )- ... that Wu Zhong is recognized as the youngest general in the Chinese People's Liberation Army after the title's first holder was stripped of it following his immigration to the Soviet Union?
- Source: 他是我军历史上最年轻开国将领:32岁晋升少将竟抛 - Sohu
Toadboy123 (talk) 00:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on December 21
Sigma Boy
( )- ... that the song "Sigma Boy" is effective as an alarm tone?
- ALT1: ... that the song "Sigma Boy" has been claimed to be effective as a wake-up alarm tone?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ryusei Nishioka
- Comment: Not sure if this hook is bad or very bad. But it may work for April 1. (Hopefully I’ll come up with something better.)
Moscow Connection (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC).
- @Moscow Connection: In case you weren't aware, DYK rules changed a few months ago to require QPQs at the time of the nomination, rather than up to a week after. As such, please provided a QPQ promptly, as the nomination may be closed without further warning if one isn't given. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, sorry. Give me 30 minutes. --Moscow Connection (talk) 02:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 22
Legend of Aphroditian
( )- ... that the Legend of Aphroditian identifies the Greek goddess Hera with the Virgin Mary of Christianity?
- Source: Heyden, Katharina (2022). "The Legend of Aphroditian". In Early New Testament Apocrypha. pp. 115–127.
- ALT1: ... that the Legend of Aphroditian includes a rare physical description of Mary, the Mother of Jesus? Source: Same as above.
- ALT2: ... that the Magi in the Legend of Aphroditian commission a painting of the Virgin Mother and Child with which to replace pagan statues with? Source: Same as above.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Portrait of Toulouse Lautrec, in Villeneuve-sur-Yonne, with the Natansons
- Comment: QPQ pending.
For full disclosure, there is a chat on how much DYKFICTION extends at WT:DYK. IMO, it says "Creative work" which clearly means the likes of novel and film plot summaries, and a "broad" reading of fiction as "anything false" is clearly not merited, and there's an obvious connection to the real world anyway (making an icon in-story = encouraging that as a doctrine in real life to emulate by real-life people who made real-life paintings), but I've provided some alternate hooks regardless in case people feel that a hook is borderline.
Created by SnowFire (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.SnowFire (talk) 04:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
- @SnowFire: Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible (it should have been at the time of the nomination), as the nomination may be closed without further warning if one is not provided soon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Dhumnath Temple
( )- ... that the reliefs on the walls of the Dhumnath Temple depict erotic poses from the Kama Sutra?
- Source: Manwani, S N (1984). "The Kalachuri Temples - North of Mahanadi" (PDF). Temple Art of the Kalachuris of Ratanpur. p. 109.
temple walls are studded with erotic couples engaged in the act of sexual conjunction in various asanas (positions) and the sexual fore-play described in Kamasutra and other ancient Indian sastras
- ALT1: ... that one of the reliefs on the walls of the Dhumnath Temple depicts a man displaying his penis? Source: Manwani, S N (1984). "The Kalachuri Temples - North of Mahanadi" (PDF). Temple Art of the Kalachuris of Ratanpur. p. 110.
Next panel depicts an unusual erotic scene, the male exhibiting his erect organ with his feet raised up
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yuri Kochiyama
- Comment: Will provide QPQ soon
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 21:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC).
Devarani and Jithani temples
( )- ... that the Jithani temple may have collapsed under its own weight?
- Source: Bakker, Hans (1994). Observations on the History and Culture of Daksina Kosala (PDF). p. 258.
The enormous slabs of stone of the Jithani ruin give the impression that this temple was a not wholly successful experimental construction that finally collapsed under its own load
- ALT1: ... that a Shiva statue within the Devarani temple has its body parts made out of animal figures?
Source: Majumdar, Susmita Basu (2003). "Tracing the Religio-Specific Traits in the Saiva Sculptures of South Kosala". Proceedings of the Indian History Congress. 64: 277–285. ISSN 2249-1937. A peacock with its plumage unfurled forms the ear and the earnings. The eyes are in the form of open mouth of a frog. A descending lizard forms the nose, the two hind legs of the animal form the eyebrows and the front legs form the nostrils of the image. A pair of fishes forms the moustache and the chin is shaped like a hideous crab. Both the shoulders are in the form of a makara (crocodile). On the chest two male human heads have been placed whereas, a larger human head forms the belly. Four female heads are placed (without moustaches) in semi circular fashion on the thighs (two each) out of which the two facing the front are in najali-baddha posture. The urdhvamedhra is made of the head and neck of a tortoise two bell like testicles are designed as forelimbs of the same animal. Two heads of lion form the knees. The identification of this icon is an over discussed problem. This sculpture being the only of its kind has led art historians to put forward as many identifications as possible but unfortunately its unconventional form rules out the scope of textual corroboration. At present it may be concluded that it is a Saiva sculpture. Multiplicity of the heads of Siva is not new to this region or other parts of northern India
- ALT2: ... that that a Shiva statue within the Devarani temple has a nose made out of a lizard figure, ears made out of peacock figures, while a crab forms the lower lip and chin?
Source: Majumdar, Susmita Basu (2003). "Tracing the Religio-Specific Traits in the Saiva Sculptures of South Kosala". Proceedings of the Indian History Congress. 64: 277–285. ISSN 2249-1937. A peacock with its plumage unfurled forms the ear and the earnings. The eyes are in the form of open mouth of a frog. A descending lizard forms the nose, the two hind legs of the animal form the eyebrows and the front legs form the nostrils of the image. A pair of fishes forms the moustache and the chin is shaped like a hideous crab. Both the shoulders are in the form of a makara (crocodile). On the chest two male human heads have been placed whereas, a larger human head forms the belly. Four female heads are placed (without moustaches) in semi circular fashion on the thighs (two each) out of which the two facing the front are in najali-baddha posture. The urdhvamedhra is made of the head and neck of a tortoise two bell like testicles are designed as forelimbs of the same animal. Two heads of lion form the knees. The identification of this icon is an over discussed problem. This sculpture being the only of its kind has led art historians to put forward as many identifications as possible but unfortunately its unconventional form rules out the scope of textual corroboration. At present it may be concluded that it is a Saiva sculpture. Multiplicity of the heads of Siva is not new to this region or other parts of northern India
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 20:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC).
2025 Seattle Sounders FC season
( )- ... that the 2025 Seattle Sounders FC season will include a minimum of 42 games, including two international competitions? Source: The Seattle Times
SounderBruce 05:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC).
- I don't see how this hook is interesting to a non-specialist audience? It probably appeals to Sounders fans, but I'm not sure if even MLS fans will like it, let alone non-soccer fans. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that fans of soccer, the world's largest sport, are not an insignificant audience. The number of planned games is unusually high for a team outside of Europe and Brazil. SounderBruce 02:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- You have a point, but most casual fans will not get the significance of this or the intricacies of schedules. It's reliant on rather specialist information (specialists in this case being dedicated soccer fans), and not all soccer fans are like that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the 2025 Seattle Sounders FC season will include matches against teams from Guatemala, Brazil, Spain, and France? Source: The Seattle Times
- @Narutolovehinata5: Wonder if this would be better for a broad audience? SounderBruce 21:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm honestly not sure but I'm leaning towards it being marginal at best. It probably has wider interest than the original hook, but I imagine that it won't do all that well if this is the wording that gets featured on the main page. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- What about ALT2: ... that after winning the 2022 CONCACAF Champions League, the Seattle Sounders qualified to play in the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup in their upcoming season? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think this would work better: ... that the upcoming season for Seattle Sounders FC includes a tournament that they qualified for in 2022? SounderBruce 05:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds a lot better, although I might suggest removing the link to the FIFA Club World Cup given that too many links may divert readers away from the bolded link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:21, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Why not bold link the whole thing, which would remove a pointless link (to the soccer team itself) while still retaining the link to the tournament, which would help readers understand the hook better:
- ALT3: ... that the upcoming season for Seattle Sounders FC includes a tournament that they qualified for in 2022? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- That works for me. @Narutolovehinata5: Will you finish the review? SounderBruce 02:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- That sounds a lot better, although I might suggest removing the link to the FIFA Club World Cup given that too many links may divert readers away from the bolded link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:21, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think this would work better: ... that the upcoming season for Seattle Sounders FC includes a tournament that they qualified for in 2022? SounderBruce 05:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- What about ALT2: ... that after winning the 2022 CONCACAF Champions League, the Seattle Sounders qualified to play in the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup in their upcoming season? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm honestly not sure but I'm leaning towards it being marginal at best. It probably has wider interest than the original hook, but I imagine that it won't do all that well if this is the wording that gets featured on the main page. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the 2025 Seattle Sounders FC season will include matches against teams from Guatemala, Brazil, Spain, and France? Source: The Seattle Times
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I couldn't find any close paraphrasing. The QPQ was done and is a complete review. Only ALT3 is approved as being likely to be interesting to non-specialist readers. The only concern is relatively minor: the sentences that support the hook don't have the referencing footnote; instead, they're located in the subsequent sentences. That will need to be addressed for DYK verification purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 23
Unexpected Destinations
( )- ... that the first biography of the first Japanese woman to earn a college degree was written by her great-granddaughter, who also studied abroad in the U.S.? Source: "Kuno's experience as a student for a year at an American college gives the narrative an added perspective, as does her dual capacity as Sutematsu's biographer and great-granddaughter." -- Goff, Janet (1994). "History -- Unexpected Destinations: The Poignant Story of Japan's First Vassar Graduate by Akiko Kuno and translated by Kirsten McIvor". Japan Quarterly. 41 (3): 358. "Unexpected Destinations is the biography of the first Japanese woman apparently to graduate from any college anywhere." -- W., G. (1 September 1993). "She Was A First for Japan". Vassar Quarterly. LXXXIX (4): 33.
~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was nominated for DYK within 7 days of creation. No issues with length. Good faith is assumed on print sources. Earwig picked up an unlikely copyright violation of 21.9%, mostly from the title of of the book. The summary needs more sources since it deals with real-life people and events. QPQ is done; the hook drew me in so I think it's good! Minor suggestions that doesn't affect DYK eligibility but can be made to the article: Kirkus Reviews, Publishers Weekly, and Kodansha all have articles on the English Misplaced Pages and can be piped in the sources; the infobox has fields for publishers, page numbers, ISBN, and release dates, so those can quickly be filled in. lullabying (talk) 19:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- lullabying, thanks for taking a look! I appreciate your suggestions for polishing, but I disagree that the summary needs more sources. The synopses in book articles are implicitly cited to the book itself, following the conventions at WP:NOVELPLOT; secondary sources would be a bit odd. I've basically summarized each chapter in a sentence or clause, in the order that they appear in the book, so I don’t think there’s anything that needs an additional source. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think WP:NOVELPLOT only applies to fiction though, and the article seems to be about a biography, with real-life people and real-life events involved. lullabying (talk) 01:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree, but I added the citation to the book anyway. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- The top of the page for WP:NOVELPLOT says it's about literary fiction, and which doesn't seem to be the case for this book. The source you listed is a primary source — do you have any secondary sources for the summary? lullabying (talk) 21:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- The instructions for non-fiction books at WP:WikiProject Books/Non-fiction article links to WP:PLOTCITE (about fiction) for guidance, which says
All interpretation, synthesis or analysis of the plot must be based upon some secondary source. Citations about the plot summary itself, however, may refer to the primary source—the work of fiction itself. ... Plot summaries written purely from other summaries risk excessive loss of context and detail.
The book itself is my source for what the book says. The secondary sources have much shorter and vaguer summaries, whereas my summary follows the table of contents to present the key concept of each chapter in order. (You might note that it's entirely different from Daughters of the Samurai). I have written a lot of book articles, and it's considered best practice to completely avoid secondary citations in the synopsis, because the synopsis ought to contain only non-interpretive material verified by the book itself. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 22:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- The instructions for non-fiction books at WP:WikiProject Books/Non-fiction article links to WP:PLOTCITE (about fiction) for guidance, which says
- The top of the page for WP:NOVELPLOT says it's about literary fiction, and which doesn't seem to be the case for this book. The source you listed is a primary source — do you have any secondary sources for the summary? lullabying (talk) 21:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree, but I added the citation to the book anyway. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 07:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think WP:NOVELPLOT only applies to fiction though, and the article seems to be about a biography, with real-life people and real-life events involved. lullabying (talk) 01:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Brachyrhaphis roseni, Brachyrhaphis rhabdophora
( Comment or view )( Article history links: ) A pair of Brachyrhaphis roseni- ... that Brachyrhaphis roseni (pictured) and B. rhabdophora are difficult to breed because they voraciously eat their own young?
- Source: "Like B. rhabdophora, this fish is a voracious cannibal that pursues its young. A roomy, densely planted aquarium is needed to successfully breed this species." (Rudiger 1998); Brachys from Costa Rica
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jahangir Preferring a Sufi Shaikh to Kings, Template:Did you know nominations/Pro-Fatimid conspiracy against Saladin
Surtsicna (talk) 16:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The articles look good. I'm wondering if it'd be best to have the word 'voraciously' in quotes in the hook, given that's the adjective used in the source. Thoughts? Otherwise it should be good to go. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not mind. --Surtsicna (talk) 11:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 24
Al-Suqaylabiyah
( )- ... that the city of al-Suqaylabiyah was founded by Christian villagers from the Hauran and the Syrian coastal mountains in the 19th century?
- Source: 'Comité de l'Asie française (April 1933). "Notes sur la propriété foncière dans le Syrie centrale (Notes on Landownership in Central Syria)". Bulletin du Comité de l'Asie française (in French). 33, p. 132.
Al Ameer (talk) 18:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC).
- Will take a look at this one.el.ziade (talkallam) 23:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Roddy MacLellan
( )- ... that before specializing in bagpipe making, Roddy MacLellan helped create one of the trophies used at the Super Bowl? (Source)
Johnson524 18:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC).
Aquilegia gracillima, Aquilegia maimanica, Aquilegia microcentra
( Comment or view )( Article history links: )- ... that Aquilegia gracillima, Aquilegia maimanica, and Aquilegia microcentra were first described as new species all related to Aquilegia moorcroftiana?
- Source: Nold, Robert (2003). Columbines: Aquilegia, Paraquilegia, and Semiaquilegia. Portland, OR: Timber Press. pp. 103–104. ISBN 0881925888.
- Reviewed: 1.) Template:Did you know nominations/2024 drone sightings, 2.) Template:Did you know nominations/Patrick Pillay, 3.) Template:Did you know nominations/Caffey family murders
Pbritti (talk) 16:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC).
- Can a better hook be proposed here? The hook as currently written doesn't seem very interesting to broad audiences, as merely being described as being related to a species that most readers have never heard of doesn't seem hooky. If it would be too difficult to do a multi-article hook, maybe just propose separate hooks for some or all of them? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
First, thanks for these articles. Misplaced Pages is still woefully short on articles about plant and animal species. The articles are new, long enough, well sourced, and carefully paraphrased. I should note that much of the content between them is identical or nearly identical, but separate pages are nevertheless needed. I too believe that a better hook can be produced from these articles. Nold's reference to the "political circumstances in the United States" seems interesting. Can this be clarified? It could lead to a very good hook. --Surtsicna (talk) 13:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and Surtsicna: Thanks for the reviews! I'm traveling today but expect a proper response soonish. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and Surtsicna: How do the two of you feel about this ALT1:
- ALT1 ... that the limited study of the Afghani plants Aquilegia gracillima, A. maimanica, and A. microcentra has been blamed on political circumstances?
- Happy new year! ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and Surtsicna: How do the two of you feel about this ALT1:
- That could certainly work. Thanks, Pbritti. We might get an even better hook if we learn what the political circumstances are/were. In any case, only the first listed species should be named in full; for the other two the genus should be abbreviated (Aquilegia gracillima, A. maimanica, and A. microcentra). --Surtsicna (talk) 23:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 sounds good! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- That could certainly work. Thanks, Pbritti. We might get an even better hook if we learn what the political circumstances are/were. In any case, only the first listed species should be named in full; for the other two the genus should be abbreviated (Aquilegia gracillima, A. maimanica, and A. microcentra). --Surtsicna (talk) 23:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
2024 drone sightings
( )- ... that news outlets reported drone sightings in August 2024 over US military bases in Germany, well before the major wave of sightings in the US in December 2024?
- ALT1: ... that news outlets reported drone sightings in November 2024 over US military bases in the United Kingdom, well before the major wave of sightings in the US in December 2024? Source: https://www.twz.com/air/multiple-drone-incident-just-occurred-over-usaf-fighter-base-in-england
- Reviewed:
Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents
- Comment: major overview article for drone sightings worldwide; just began article today.
Sm8900 (talk) 15:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC).
- This article is largely a piece of original research, combining sources that make no mention to other events. Its scope, as relates to the US sightings, is redundant with 2024 Northeastern United States drone sightings. Regarding UK drone sightings, it utilizes the deprecated Daily Mail (WP:DAILYMAIL). Regarding the German sightings, maybe there's something there. However, I'm not seeing enough sustained coverage to clear WP:NOTNEWS right now. Make some corrections, remove the bad sources, and make the scope more precise. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti:, I appreciate your valuable feedback. I have revised the article, and added citations from reliable sources, as you requested. I would welcome any comments on the revised version. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: At the minimum, you must also appropriately link and bold the article you are nominating in both proposed hooks. Please do that and I'll look over the article again. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti:, ok, sounds fine. Done thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: At the minimum, you must also appropriately link and bold the article you are nominating in both proposed hooks. Please do that and I'll look over the article again. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti:, I appreciate your valuable feedback. I have revised the article, and added citations from reliable sources, as you requested. I would welcome any comments on the revised version. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
@Sm8900: Sorry to be a grinch, but there are still outstanding issues. I have, as a courtesy, bolded the link in your hook. The other issues will be listed below:
- Citations are awkwardly spaced. Since you are an experienced editor (if not necessarily an experienced DYK nominator), I will ask you to fix this substantial formatting issue.
- The scope of the final section is, with the exception of the California arrest, fully overlapping with the other drone sightings article. That portion ought to be summarized more succinctly.
- Cutting down on redundant coverage may cause a length issue; consider adding further content on the German sightings and more clearly tying them and the UK sightings to the US events.
- You oscillate between "US" and "USA" within your hooks. Please pick one for consistency.
Please let me know if you require further guidance. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti:, ok, as requested; 1) fixed spacing between refs. let me know if further work is needed. 2) made section on US events more concise. 3) added signficant additonal facts and details to section on Germany. 4) used US consistently. I hope thats helpful. Please free to continue your helpful feedback. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sm8900,
seems fine to me.
is in no way an adequate QPQ review, so I have struck your inclusion of Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents above. You need to do a complete review of an article (Boxheim Documents, which is all done except for a hook disagreement, is not appropriate), and be sure to address all of the DYK criteria (newness, meets size requirement, hook interestingness and sourcing and length, article sourcing, etc.). See the reviewing instructions and the guidelines for further information. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)- ok, no problem, glad to help. reviewed. C/1975 T2 (Suzuki–Saigusa–Mori). thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 21:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sm8900,
- @Pbritti:, ok, as requested; 1) fixed spacing between refs. let me know if further work is needed. 2) made section on US events more concise. 3) added signficant additonal facts and details to section on Germany. 4) used US consistently. I hope thats helpful. Please free to continue your helpful feedback. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 25
Armand Ceritano
( )- ... that Armand Ceritano acquired a Philadelphia hotel for "a smile and a handshake"?
- Source: Philadelphia Inquirer ("Westinghouse was almost ready to begin foreclosure when Ceritano appeared on the scene. Because of the plight of the hotel, the company turned over the $6.8 million mortgage to him in return for a smile and a handshake. The only money involved was the $20 filing fee for the papers, which, incidentally, Ceritano says he borrowed from two layers.")
- ALT1: ... that Armand Ceritano acquired a Philadelphia hotel for "a smile and a handshake" – and $20, borrowed from others? Source: same, but with the addition of the $20 filing fee
- ALT2: ... that future millionaire Armand Ceritano said that when he arrived to the U.S. as an immigrant, "My only capital ... was a goat"? Source: quote from this article; also e.g. this if you need an article directly calling him a millionaire
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KMUN
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
Scientific Research Institute of Medicine of the Ministry of Defense in Sergiyev Posad
( )- ... that Scientific Research Institute of Medicine of the Ministry of Defense in Sergiyev Posad was home to the Museum of Viruses and Rickettsiae?
- Source: Leitenberg, Milton; Zilinskas, Raymond A.; Kuhn, Jens H. (2012). The Soviet biological weapons program: a history. Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-04770-9 page 96
- ALT1: ... that the staff of Sergiyev Posad-6 were banned from using Moscow libraries? Source: Leitenberg, Milton; Zilinskas, Raymond A.; Kuhn, Jens H. (2012). The Soviet biological weapons program: a history. Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-04770-9. page 88
- ALT2: ... that Zagorsk-6 had the capacity to produce viral and rickettsial bioweapon agents on the small scale, but not in industrial quantities? Source: Leitenberg, Milton; Zilinskas, Raymond A.; Kuhn, Jens H. (2012). The Soviet biological weapons program: a history. Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-04770-9. page 98
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Håkon Balstad
©Geni (talk) 04:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
Sitaleshwar Temple
( )- ... that the Sitaleshwar Temple remained in worship even when it was in ruins with only the pillars of the outer pavilion surviving?
- Source: Fergusson, James. Picturesque illustrations of ancient architecture in hindostan. p. 34.
Even in its ruined state, however, it is still used as a place of worship, though not considered of great sanctity, and is dedicated to Siva; but whether originally so or not, appears to me extremely doubtful.
- ALT1: ... that James Fergusson described the pillars of the Sitaleshwar Temple as the "most elegant specimen of columnar architecture in India"? Source: Fergusson, James. Picturesque illustrations of ancient architecture in hindostan. p. 34.
Taking the whole together, I think I am correct in stating, that it is the most elegant specimen of columnar architecture in India; it is the most so, at least, that I have seen. Even more elegant, however, than the pillars, must have been the roof they were destined to support
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Du Toit's torrent frog
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 12:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
Scorsese Baby Daddy
( )- ... that SZA named a song after a well-known crime film director, but did not expect him to know about it hours after release?
- Source: Centeno, Tony M. (December 24, 2024). "SZA Freaks Out After Famed Director's Family Co-Signs Song from Lana LP". WHYI-FM. Retrieved December 26, 2024.
Elias 🦗🐜 07:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comment I'm gonna suggest an alt, if you don't mind :).
- ALT1 ... that a song about desiring an emotionally unstable boyfriend is named after Martin Scorsese?
Articles created/expanded on December 26
Di Algemeyne Entsiklopedye
( )- ... that a group of Jewish refugees continued work on their Yiddish encyclopedia after fleeing from Germany and Poland?
- Source: Trachtenberg, B. (2006). Di Algemeyne Entsiklopedye, the Holocaust and the changing mission of Yiddish scholarship. Journal of Modern Jewish Studies, 5(3), 285–300. https://doi.org/10.1080/14725880600961601
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Esus
- Comment: This was published slightly over a week ago, but since I took some time to expand it recently, I hope that will still be okay.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Kerekorio Manu Rangi
( )- ... that the death of child monarch Kerekorio Manu Rangi ended the ancient dynasty of Easter Island which, according to local belief, "went back to the gods themselves"?
- Source: The World's News ("The Peruvians carried off as many as they could capture to work the guano deposits on the Chincha Islands. Maurata, the last king, died there. But Dr. Metraux says that when the missionaries arrived at Easter Island they found a shadowy kingship still in existence incarnated in the person of a 12-year-old boy. This lad was Gregorio ... Poor little Gregorio did not live very long ... He died, aged 12 ... With the death of Gregorio ended a direct line that, according to Polynesian belief, went back to the gods themselves.") / Island at the End of the World ("Manu Rangi, the island's final 'ariki mau, the last in the ancient line of East Polynesian royal first-born sons, succumbed.")
- Reviewed: to do
- Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
- Also could include the date in the hook: ALT1 ... that the death of child monarch Kerekorio Manu Rangi in 1867 ended the ancient dynasty of Easter Island which, according to local belief, "went back to the gods themselves"? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
The Hangover (Suzanne Valadon)
( )- ... that The Hangover by Toulouse-Lautrec was influenced by Aristide Bruant, modeled by Suzanne Valadon, and painted in front of Vincent van Gogh?
Viriditas (talk) 10:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
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- Interesting:
- Other problems: - "Modeled by" doesn't feel like quite the right phrasing; it might suggest Suzanne Valadon created a model. Maybe "based on" to keep the verb+preposition pattern, or simply "depicts"?
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Overall: Enjoyed reading this, thanks for your work! Good to go after the minor fixes above. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Joy to the World (Doctor Who)
( )- ... that Disney+ released a promotional poster for the Doctor Who Christmas special "Joy to the World" with the title spelled incorrectly?
- ALT1: ... that "Joy to the World" was almost titled "The Time Hotel" and "Christmas, Everywhere All at Once"? Source: https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who-2024-christmas-special-trailer-reveals-two-doctors/
- ALT2: ... that "Joy to the World" is the ninth Doctor Who Christmas special to be written by Steven Moffat? Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/doctor-who-christmas-special-joy-to-the-world-russell-t-davies-steven-moffat-1236089679/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Speed Me Up
TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
Frederick W. Hinitt
( )- ... that Frederick W. Hinitt secured funding to build Carnegie libraries at two different colleges? Source: and
- ALT1: ... that two different colleges experienced fires while Frederick W. Hinitt was their president? Source: and
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tea in New Zealand
- Comment: If anyone is feeling especially generous, the total expansion is a little short of 5x (2254 B to 9862 B is 4.37x expansion)
PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC).
Orphic Hymns
( )- ... that in the Orphic Hymns the mythical Greek hero Heracles is described as a solar deity?
- ALT1: ... that in the Orphic Hymns the mythical Greek hero Heracles is a sun god? Source: Rudhardt 2008, Chapter II, para. 9
- ALT2: ... that in the Orphic Hymns the mythical Greek hero Heracles is a sun god and a Titan? Source: Rudhardt 2008, Chapter II, para. 9
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Monica Smit
Michael Aurel (talk) 09:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC).
East Kangqiao station
( )- ... that the floor plans of East Kangqiao station included a COVID-19 testing booth near one of its exits?
- Source: "关于上海轨道交通市域线机场联络线工程张江站附属设施(地上部分)建设工程设计方案的公示". Shanghai Municipal Planning and Natural Resources Bureau. 22 May 2023. Retrieved 2024-12-27.
- ALT1: ... that parts of East Kangqiao station is designed in the form of a semi-arched canopy in the shape of a water wave? Source: "【品质市政】市域铁路系列——机场联络线". Shanghai Municipal Planning and Natural Resources Bureau. 2023-06-16.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/School of the Arts, Singapore
S5A-0043🚎 01:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC).
Battle of South Harting
( ) The Mercurius Aulicus reports on the skirmish in 1643- ... that according to the Mercurius Aulicus, 400 dragoons were routed by just 6 officers and a boy in 1643 during the English Civil War?
- Source: https://archive.org/details/historyofharting00gordiala - Gordon, Henry Doddridge (1877). The History of Harting. London: W. Davy. Pages 72–84
- ALT1: ... that according to the Mercurius Aulicus, in 1643 during the English Civil War, 400 dragoons were routed by just 6 officers and a boy? Source: https://archive.org/details/historyofharting00gordiala - Gordon, Henry Doddridge (1877). The History of Harting. London: W. Davy. Pages 72–84
- ALT2: ... that according to the Mercurius Aulicus, during the English Civil War, 400 dragoons were routed by just 6 officers and a boy in 1643? Source: https://archive.org/details/historyofharting00gordiala - Gordon, Henry Doddridge (1877). The History of Harting. London: W. Davy. Pages 72–84
- ALT3: ... that according to the Mercurius Aulicus, in 1643, 400 dragoons were routed by just 6 officers and a boy during the English Civil War? Source: https://archive.org/details/historyofharting00gordiala - Gordon, Henry Doddridge (1877). The History of Harting. London: W. Davy. Pages 72–84
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Added 4 total hooks as the basic underlying substance of all the hooks is by far the best thing to use for a DYK, but I'm not sure which order the information should be written to be most appealing? Use of the image is up for debate depending on if it is deemed interesting enough to be the image featured on DYK for a day. Also unsure of how to word the image caption.
TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 19:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC).
Crabs for Christmas
( )- ... that "Crabs for Christmas", a song about a man asking Santa Claus for crab as a Christmas gift, became a Maryland holiday tradition?
- Source: Worthington, Aliza (December 12, 2023). "The enduring Baltimore charm of David DeBoy's 'Crabs for Christmas,' more than 40 years after initial release". Baltimore Fishbowl. Retrieved December 25, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that a radio station refused to air "Crabs for Christmas" due to its use of the Baltimore accent? Source: DeNike, Lisa (December 14, 1981). "His Christmas record won't make him crabby". The Evening Sun. p. B7. Retrieved December 25, 2024 – via Newspapers.com.
- ALT2: ... that the writer of "Crabs for Christmas" joked that it contributed to Baltimore's population decline? Source: "Our very own Bawlmer, hon, has been immortalized on CD". The Baltimore Sun. November 25, 2001. Retrieved December 26, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mahra Al Maktoum
charlotte 06:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC).
- Hi. Made a copyedit here before my review; feel free to revert some of the changes if you don't agree with them
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Overall: AGF on all the offline sources. Baltimore Sun review has no citation though so you would want to fix that. ALT2 is interesting, but a bit misleading -- it does not convey the jocular nature of the writer's comments. The rest are also fine, although I recommend rewriting them as well to bring out more of their hookiness. Elias 🦗🐜 07:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- @PSA: thank you for the copyedits. I'm unsure what you mean by the review being unsourced; the quotation is in the cited source ("His Christmas record won't make him crabby"), although it is a stretch to call it positive, so I removed that from the lead. I've replaced "said" with "joked" in ALT2 and would welcome any copyedit on the hooks. charlotte 04:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hm, first off my bad for the "unsourced" comment. Second, my issue with ALT0 right now is that it is a bit too wordy. Perhaps you can trim the hook so that it just focuses on "a song about crabs as a Christmas gift". That's all I have for now Elias 🦗🐜 05:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 27
2024 Estlink 2 incident
( ) M/S Hessu, ordered to do the job on New Year's Eve- ... that during investigation for breaking a power cable, pumping out feces and bilgewater from the Eagle S took a day?
Kyseiset huoltotoimet kestävät arviolta kaksi päivää.
– Tyhjennykset tapahtuvat tämän päivän aikana, ja huomenna viedään vesi.- ALT1: ... that the nomination wizard doesn't have an option to delete alt hooks? Source: a
- Reviewed: no previous DYK's
NotAGenious (talk) 17:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
- I don't know how long this procedure typically takes, but I feel sorry for the guy who has to inspect all that bilge and sewage. kencf0618 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Alice of Antioch
( )- ... that a clergyman allegedly convinced Princess Alice of Antioch that a knight had come from France to marry her, only to marry the knight to her eight-year-old daughter instead?
- Source: Asbridge 2003, p. 45.
- ALT1: ... that a medieval churchman presented Princess Alice of Antioch as an "extremely malicious and wily woman" for bribing men, allying with Muslims, and wanting to choose her own husband? Source: Asbridge 2003, p. 29.
- ALT2: ... that a bishop complained to the pope that Princess Alice of Antioch refused to share her raiding spoils with him? Source: Buck 2020, p. 101.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Josie Brown Childs
- Comment: These are all different prelates, mind you.
Surtsicna (talk) 15:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
Violin scam
( )- ... that a widespread violin performance scam was described as "one more raindrop in the storm of schemes that blur our view of what's right in front of us" by radio host Scott Simon?
- Source: "Can a violin be an instrument for a scam? You may have seen people playing Bach or Vivaldi on the street, inviting passersby to toss them a coin or crumpled bill in appreciation. But there are reports from across the country that many of the performers are not violinists, but flimflam artists. People called finger-syncers who set up on a street, flick on a speaker, and slide a bow over an electronic violin while a pre-recorded track plays. These forged Joshua Bells leave out instrument cases to receive money, often with signs saying they need help for rent or medical bills....I don't think the duped commuters lose much money in this street violinist scam. But it may be one more raindrop in the storm of schemes that blur our view of what's right in front of us."
Thriley (talk) 20:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on December 28
Helvis of Ramla
( )- ... that Helvis of Ramla was the progenitor of the powerful crusader Ibelin family?
- Source: Hans E. Mayer, "Carving up Crusaders: The Early Ibelins and Ramlas", in Outremer: Studies in the History of the Crusading Kingdom of Jerusalem Presented to Joshua Prawer, ed. Benjamin Z. Kedar, Hans E. Mayer, and R.C. Smail (Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi Institute, 1982), p. 111.
- Reviewed:
Adam Bishop (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
Thasmin
( )- ... that a popular ship between two characters in the television series Doctor Who, dubbed Thasmin, was later adapted into the show at the suggestion of lead actress Jodie Whittaker?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Wasn't sure whether to class this as newly created or recent GA promo due to its circumstances, so just left it on the default template.
Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 22:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Splendid work Pokelego999, looking forward to your future contributions to DYK! New enough, by both GA promotion date and creation date. Congratulations on attaining GA status with such quick turnover! Earwig detects low similarity with sources used within the article. QPQ not needed as the nominator has below 5 nominations. There are two things I would like to address before approving the hook. I wanted to discuss with you whether the term "ship" should be used in the hook rather than a less jargonistic term. The GA reviewer noted the same, and I'm wondering if "pairing" or another term would be more accessible for a general audience. In addition, I am curious if there are additional sources for the hook aside from Bleeding Cool that could serve to back it up. It is not as much of an issue, but I am curious if other agencies had covered the same interaction between Whittaker and Chibnall. Ornithoptera (talk) 00:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: Perhaps "romantic pairing" with a link to the shipping article would suffice for simplicity's sake? Additionally, I do believe other sources mention this, as I have seen it get brought up in brief across other sources, but Bleeding Cool mentioned it the most directly for the purposes of the article, and is what the statement for this DYK is cited to in the article, so I do not believe there should be an issue there, since Bleeding Cool is a reliable source per WP:VG/RS. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the quick response Pokelego999! Romantic pairing sounds like a good idea to me, could you propose the alt hook in your reply? I will approve of that shortly. Also, thank you for the clarification. Seems like apart from that, everything should be good on my end! Wonderful work, and looking forward to your future work! Ornithoptera (talk) 00:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: could you clarify by alt hook? Do you mean a second hook, or an alteration to the original hook? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- My bad, I should have specified! You are welcome to do either, but in my experience, a second hook is proposed with the proposed rewording and then approved from there. Ornithoptera (talk) 01:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: How is that done? I'm admittedly unfamiliar with the process here. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for asking Pokelego999, typically it would go something like "ALT0a: ...that ". Here's an example from my DYK nomination of Salmon n' Bannock if you want to see it in practice, and another one just in case! Ornithoptera (talk) 01:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that a popular ship between two characters in the television series Doctor Who, dubbed Thasmin, was later adapted into the show at the suggestion of lead actress Jodie Whittaker?
- Like this? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yup, but with the changes that we had discussed! You can alter the hook for ALT0a with what we've discussed and I'll give it the needed approval! Ornithoptera (talk) 04:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, woops, brain farted and forgot to actually include the new content in there. Here:
- ALT0a: ... that a popular romantic pairing between two characters in the television series Doctor Who, dubbed Thasmin, was later adapted into the show at the suggestion of lead actress Jodie Whittaker? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- The above hook is pretty long at 190 characters and thus would probably fall under WP:DYKTRIM. Perhaps something like: ALT0b: ... that a popular romantic pairing from Doctor Who was later adapted into the show at the suggestion of lead actress Jodie Whittaker? Sometimes, it's not actually necessary to mention the article subject by name in a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yup, but with the changes that we had discussed! You can alter the hook for ALT0a with what we've discussed and I'll give it the needed approval! Ornithoptera (talk) 04:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 29
Literarishe Bleter
( )- ... that the discontinuation of a Warsaw-based Yiddish literary journal in the summer of 1939 was unrelated to the invasion of Poland?
- Source: Novershtern, Avraham. "Literarisze Bleter". National Library of Israel https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/ltb?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pixel Piracy
- Comment: open to alternate hook ideas!
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Lilium nobilissimum
( ) An illustration of Lilium nobilissimum from the 1804 Seikei Zusetsu- ... that Lilium nobilissimum (pictured) got its Japanese name from the kimono sleeve pouches where the lily's bulbs were stored while scaling the sea cliffs the lily was native to?
- Source: "Lilium nobilissimum the Tamoto-yuri or pouch lily is named after the tamoto, a pouch under the sleeve of a kimono into which fans are often placed and into which bulbs of this lily were placed by islanders scaling the precipitous sea cliffs where the lily bulbs grew (Wada, 1950: 71)." Compton, James (June 2021). "TWO ENDEMIC AND CRITICALLY ENDANGERED RYUKYU ISLAND LILIES LILIUM NOBILISSIMUM AND LILIUM UKEYURI (LILIACEAE)". Curtis's Botanical Magazine. 38 (2): 240–259. doi:10.1111/curt.12385. Retrieved 28 December 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thasmin
- Comment: Thank you in advance to the reviewer for their time! If there is an alternative way of wording the hook to make it succinct or convey it more clearly, I would be happy to collaborate. In my view, the sleeves which the lily was stored in while locals would put the lily bulbs in while climbing cliffs is quite an interesting hook, but it is a bit wordy as is in my view. For the reviewer's reference, Compton (2021) is available through the Misplaced Pages Library through Wiley Online Library.
Ornithoptera (talk) 00:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
Their Highest Potential: An African American School Community in the Segregated South
( )- ... that a 1996 book was written about an African-American high school that was later added to the National Register of Historic Places in 2018?
SL93 (talk) 01:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on December 30
Tesseropora rosea
( ) Rose barnacles in Royal National Park- ... that the picky rose barnacle (pictured) will only eat when the current is strong?
- ALT1: ... that rose barnacles (pictured) eat barnacle larvae?
- Source: "In adult T. rosea, the largest proportion by far of the gut contents comprised small crustaceans A number of cirripede nauplii were also present."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Will do QPQ presently. Planning to do Template:Did you know nominations/Lilium nobilissimum unless someone else gets to it first.
Cremastra (u — c) 21:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
San Jose State Spartans women's volleyball
( )- ... that several teams forfeited matches against the San Jose State Spartans women's volleyball team in 2024?
- ALT1: ... that although San Jose State University has San Jose State Spartans women's volleyball team, men's volleyball is a non-varsity sport at the university?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tel al-Sultan attack
- Comment: Driveby nom. There have got to be more hooks than this (and indeed there was a claim that would have made a good hook that I removed as it failed WP:RSP), but I'm glazing over.
Launchballer 17:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: ALT1 reads a bit clunkily, I suggest revising to something along the lines of:
- ALT1a: ... that while San Jose State University has a varsity women's volleyball team, men's volleyball is a non-varsity sport at the university?
- SammySpartan (talk) 20:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- We could go even tighter than that. ALT1b: ... that San Jose State University has a varsity women's volleyball team but not a men's?--Launchballer 20:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
William van Praagh
( )- ... that William van Praagh pioneered the Oralist method for the education of the deaf in England? Source: 1. Jacobs, Joseph; Harris, Isidore (1906). "van Praagh, William". In Singer, Isidore; et al. (eds.). The Jewish Encyclopedia. Vol. 12. New York: Funk & Wagnalls. p. 401. 2. Stiles, H. Dominic W. (18 November 2011). "Van Praagh & The Rise of Oralism". UCL Ear Institute & Action on Hearing Loss Libraries. University College London.
- ALT1: ... that after a public demonstration of his lip-reading method, William van Praagh reportedly stated, "Gentlemen, I have finished", moments before his death? Source: "Obituary: Mr. William Van Praagh". The Jewish Chronicle. No. 1996. 5 July 1907. p. 6.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lift Your Skinny Fists like Antennas to Heaven
Ploni 04:49, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
20–50 club
( )- ... that Rickey Henderson was the first American League player to join the 20–50 club?
- Source: "Became the first AL player to hit 20 home runs and swipe 50 bases ..." (ESPN)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KZJO
—Bagumba (talk) 01:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
- Maybe additional context and/or a rewording is needed for the benefit of non-North America/East Asia readers, as well as for non-baseball fans? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:34, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:: Is there formal guidance on this, as hooks always seem across the board w.r.t. providing context. Randomly looking at the current set, "... that Shō Sen'i was overthrown in favor of his thirteen-year-old nephew?" doesn't say who this person is, where it happened, or when. I always took this as a DYK standard to give creative liberty on how much/little context might draw interest to the hook. Still, "baseball" can be fit in somewhere, if needed. But is there benefit beyond "OK, I still don't understand this, but it's a sport I don't care about"?—Bagumba (talk) 03:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Recently, there has been some pushback against hooks that rely on "obscure US sport terminology" (to quote AirshipJungleman29), and the hook as currently written may be too reliant on American readership in this case. I understand baseball is a fairly popular sport in parts of the world, which is why the hook angle itself isn't unsalvageable. It's just that it might need some slight rewording for the benefit of audiences. It could be as simple as adding "baseball player" before Henderson's name, or perhaps something else. Anything to encourage readers to click on the bolded link, while also not being too technical to turn away readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: In this case, "20–50" is not basic baseball terminology either, so the goal is to get curious readers—even American baseball readers—to click because they did not already know what it was. Here's an ALT w/ baseball:
- ALT1 ... that Rickey Henderson was the first American League baseball player to join the 20–50 club?—Bagumba (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: In this case, "20–50" is not basic baseball terminology either, so the goal is to get curious readers—even American baseball readers—to click because they did not already know what it was. Here's an ALT w/ baseball:
- Recently, there has been some pushback against hooks that rely on "obscure US sport terminology" (to quote AirshipJungleman29), and the hook as currently written may be too reliant on American readership in this case. I understand baseball is a fairly popular sport in parts of the world, which is why the hook angle itself isn't unsalvageable. It's just that it might need some slight rewording for the benefit of audiences. It could be as simple as adding "baseball player" before Henderson's name, or perhaps something else. Anything to encourage readers to click on the bolded link, while also not being too technical to turn away readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Abraham Weintraub–Misplaced Pages controversy
( )- ... that Brazil's Ministry of Education threatened legal action against the Portuguese Misplaced Pages due to the page for its minister?
- Source: Neto, Nelson Lima (2019-08-16). "Weintraub ameaça entrar na Justiça contra o... Wikipédia". O Globo (in Brazilian Portuguese). Retrieved 2024-12-30.
- ALT1: that a federal deputy made a speech at Brazil's Chamber of Deputies about a Misplaced Pages controversy?
- Source: Maia, Dhiego (2019-09-09). "Weintraub usa MEC em guerra contra Wikipédia para controlar seu verbete". Folha de S.Paulo (in Brazilian Portuguese). Retrieved 2024-12-30.
Skyshiftertalk 21:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
- @Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible as the nom will be closed if one not provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you. It has been provided. Skyshiftertalk 09:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Chauburji (Agra)
( ) Chauburji- ... that the Chauburji (pictured) might have been the original place of burial of the Mughal emperor Babur?
- Source: Nath, Ram. "Babur's Innovations". History Of Mughal Architecture. Vol. 1. pp. 115–119.
- ALT1: ... that the Chauburji (pictured) was converted into a residence by a British official, who destroyed the western wall of its nearby mosque to convert it into a gateway? Source: Raza, Mohammad Abdullah (2020). "Chauburji Monument at Agra: Its Plan and Inspirations". In Sinha, A. K.; Rizvi, S. N. R. (eds.). History: Past and Beyond. New Delhi: Anamika Publishers and Distributors. p. 143.
- ALT2: ... that the Chauburji (pictured) built during the Mughal period, was converted into a residence by a British official? Source: Raza, Mohammad Abdullah (2020). "Chauburji Monument at Agra: Its Plan and Inspirations". In Sinha, A. K.; Rizvi, S. N. R. (eds.). History: Past and Beyond. New Delhi: Anamika Publishers and Distributors. p. 143.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zoe Smith
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 08:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
So Medieval
( )- ... that So Medieval's lyrics are "like an audiobook during a car crash"?
- ALT1: ... that Pitchfork praised So Medieval's "absurd" lyrics about shitposting sagas and raw halloumi? Source: "In a parallel universe—one where indie rock reigns supreme and continually seeks out poets of deadpan absurdism—critics are already celebrating So Medieval like a promising novelist’s debut splash. The blurb touts “a tale of musical ambition and romantic anguish, told through continental capers involving raw halloumi, a Formula One audiobook, and the ‘shitpost sagas’ of once-in-a-generation voice Arthur Nolan.”"
- ALT2: ... that So Medieval uses its "absurd" lyrics to talk about existential dread? Source: "absurd" comes from the same source as ALT1, plus "The same can be said for Nolan’s lyrics, which are arch and ironic in tone, but which also tackle the existential dread of our daily lives."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Colonia La Cuarta Transformación
- Comment: Hopefully the rewording of "deadpan absurdism" to just "absurd" is fine.
Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 08:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
Blue Bendy
( )- ... that despite being a post-punk band, the vocalist of Blue Bendy called the genre "lethargic and landfill"?
- Source: Post-punk band: "At a time when being described as ‘post-punk’ can mean that you fail to stand out on your own terms, this six-piece recall the original intentions of the genre". Quote: "Blue Bendy singer Arthur Nolan is discussing the band’s early days. “Before post-punk got so lethargic and landfill we were trying to be like Wire,” he says."
- ALT1: ... that "genre is dead", according to the vocalist of Blue Bendy? Source: "Of So Medieval, their debut LP released by State 51, Nolan clarifies: “Genre is dead as far as we’re concerned. This album is all about the death of purity, embracing contrasts and everything being a big melting pot”."
- ALT2: ... that Blue Bendy have been inspired by the Grateful Dead, Suzanne Vega, and Gogglebox? Source: "Arthur Nolans tells me the music is a mix of the Grateful Dead, ... Suzanne Vega, ... synth player Olivia mentions the important influence of reruns of Gogglebox."
- ALT3: ... that Blue Bendy have been compared to both pavement and Pavement? Source: "To me they sound like the following: ... Pavement the band. Pavement the surface"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Doctor Who specials (2022)
- Comment: Plenty of really good options for hooks - I like all of them, although ALT3 would probably get the most clicks.
Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 08:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on December 31
Sympathy Is a Knife
( )- ... that fans speculated Charli XCX wrote "Sympathy Is a Knife" about Taylor Swift and her relationship with Matty Healy?
- Source: Vulture Entertainment Tonight
- Reviewed:
Locust member (talk) 04:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Julier Pass
( ) One of the Roman columns beside the modern pass road.- ... that the peak of the Julier Pass, 2,284 metres (7,493 ft) above sea level, is flanked by two ancient Roman columns? Source: https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/de/articles/008811/2018-01-30/
- ALT1: ... that the Julier Pass was the first Swiss alpine road paved with asphalt? Source: https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/de/articles/008811/2018-01-30/
Toadspike 15:49, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
- There are several other images in the article which might be interesting as an image hook – if the reviewer thinks the engraving of the Roman columns is more interesting than the photograph, then we could go with that one. Alternatively, perhaps a hook could be made about the theater tower, which has a heap of cool photos on Commons. Toadspike 15:51, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- A way to phrase "meters above sea level" more concisely would be appreciated. Toadspike 15:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Frankish Tower (Acropolis of Athens)
( )- ... that the Frankish Tower on the Acropolis of Athens was used as a beacon, a salt-store and a prison?
- Source: Miller (1908). The Latins in the Levant. London: John Murray. pp. 401–402. OCLC 1157183453. (beacon); Giochalas, Thanasis; Kafetzaki, Tonia (2013). Αθήνα. Ιχνηλατώντας την πόλη με οδηγό την ιστορία και τη λογοτεχνία (in Greek). Athens: Estia. p. 130. ISBN 978-960-05-1559-6. (salt-store/prison)
- ALT1: ... that the Frankish Tower was probably built by Italians? Source: Lock, Peter (1987). "The Frankish Tower on the Acropolis, Athens: The Photographs of William J. Stillman". The Annual of the British School at Athens. 82: 131–133. doi:10.1017/S0068245400020384. JSTOR 30103084. S2CID 163963456.
- ALT2: ... that a Greek academic compared the Frankish Tower in Athens with "the droppings of birds of prey"? Source: Hamilakis, Yannis (2007). The Nation and Its Ruins: Antiquity, Archaeology, and National Imagination in Greece. Oxford University Press. pp. 92–93. ISBN 978-0-19-923038-9.; St. Clair, William (2022). Who Saved the Parthenon? A New History of the Acropolis Before, During and After the Greek Revolution (PDF). Cambridge: Open Book Publishers. p. 494. doi:10.11647/OBP.0136. ISBN 978-1-78374-461-9. S2CID 248842303. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2022-05-27. Retrieved 2023-01-07.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stretcher railings
Comment: 2nd nomination, per new DYK rules: 1st run was in 2014. UndercoverClassicist 11:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on January 1
Soda Kaichi
( )- ... that a Japanese man raised over 1,000 Korean orphans during the Japanese occupation of Korea? Source: this is in English; not many writings on him exist in English otherwise. I think the 3,000 figure is a little high; most Korean-language sources in the article claim over 1,000.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 Helong civil unrest
- Comment: I had a previous account with DYK noms so need to do QPQs on this account.
seefooddiet (talk) 01:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Bridget Jones: Mad about the Boy (novel)
( )- ... that the title of Helen Fielding's third Bridget Jones novel, Mad about the Boy, was inspired by a Noël Coward song?
- Source: McClurg, Jocelyn (1 June 2013). "Helen Fielding opens up about new Bridget Jones book". USA Today. Retrieved 1 January 2013.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is timely as the movie based on this book is going to be released in February 2025.
Blackballnz (talk) 05:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
Erich Lassota von Steblau
( ) Coat of arms of Erich Lassota von Steblau- ... that the diary of Erich Lassota von Steblau (coat of arms pictured) is an important primary source on the Zaporozhian Cossacks of Ukraine of the 16th century? Source: Pausz 2017, p. 16: "Seine Aufzeichnungen sind bis heute die wichtigste Quelle zur Zaporoger Kosakengemeinschaft zu diesem frühen Zeitpunkt." (i.e., "His records remain to this day the most important source on the Zaporozhian Cossack community at this early date.") Also others, see citations in the article
Yakikaki (talk) 16:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
A Voyage to the Moon (Tucker novel)
( )- ... that A Voyage to the Moon (1827) contains the first use of anti-gravity for space travel in science fiction?
- Source: "This was the first use of an anti-gravity device to move a spacecraft" – Harry Harrison and Malcolm Edwards, Spacecraft in Fact and Fiction (1979), p. 10
TompaDompa (talk) 16:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
- @TompaDompa: I'll admit, the hook got me hooked, so I'll review this nomination. PanagiotisZois (talk) 14:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Pantropiko
( ) Bini at Billboard Korea's K Power 100 event- ... that "Pantropiko" made Bini (pictured) become the first P-pop group to top the Billboard Philippines Songs chart?
- Source: Billboard Philippines
- ALT1: ... that despite being released in November 2023, "Pantropiko" by Bini (pictured) became a sleeper hit summer anthem in the Philippines by 2024? Source: Rappler
- Reviewed:
AstrooKai (Talk) 12:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
Fossils of Finland
( )- Source: https://www.google.ru/books/edition/Precambrian_Geology_of_Finland/3D5R3vexH1sC?hl=en&gbpv=1
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fossils of Finland
- Comment: hello!
DogWorldLive64 (talk) 10:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
- Hello and welcome to DYK. Right now, Fossils of Finland is only 235 characters long, far below the 1,500 character minimum requirement. The article's wording is also in need of a copyedit. As this appears to be your first nomination and English doesn't seem to be your first language, we can be lenient and give the article a week to be brought up to standards. If you need any assistance, please do not hesitate to ask for advice over at WT:DYK. Good luck! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Lao Lishi
( )- ... that former Chinese diver Lao Lishi was one of the eight bell ringers for the listing of Alibaba Group on the New York Stock Exchange?
- Source: Alibaba Group Lists on the NYSE
Toadboy123 (talk) 09:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on January 2
NBC Montana
( )- ... that a Montana TV station told its network it was "on own" when it came to covering a political candidate attacking a reporter? Source: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/05/montana-nbc-affiliate-refused-to-cover-gianforte-body-slam.html
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Emmanuel (emu)
( )- ... that an emu named Emmanuel Todd Lopez was the target of a death hoax by undercover journalists?
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:29, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Starbuck (film), Hanoverhill Starbuck
( Comment or view )( Article history links: )- ... that fatherhood comedy Starbuck took its title from a Holstein bull that sired over 200,000 cows through artificial insemination?
- Source: Tom McSorley in International Film Guide 2012 quote "Starbuck then unfolds its amusing meditation on the meaning of parenthood, community, and, in Daniel's prodigious case, fatherhood." Allociné (in French) Anecdotes du film Starbuck quote: "Starbuck, le surnom de David Wosniak et le titre du film lui-même viennent du taureau canadien légendaire Hanoverhill Starbuck. Ce taureau exceptionnel, à la génétique quasi-parfaite, a révolutionné le monde de l'insémination artificielle" trans.: "Starbuck, the nickname of David Wosniak and the title of the film itself come from the legendary Canadian bull Hanoverhill Starbuck. This exceptional bull, with near-perfect genetics, revolutionized the world of artificial insemination". Chris Knight in "Give a little, get a lot" National Post, ProQuest 893965672 quote "The film takes its name from the Holstein bull that sired more than 200,000 female offspring during its 19-year life."
- ALT1: ... that comedy film Starbuck and the Holstein bull the film took its title from both had cloned remakes? Source: As above plus: Chris Knight, quote: "two years after Starbuck's death, scientists in Saint-Hyacinthe, Que., produced a clone of the bull ... Similarly, Scott has already been approached about an English-language clone of this fabulously funny film." and Peter Debruge, Variety, "Remake Delivers the Goods ProQuest 1467441689 quote: "writer-director Ken Scott, who's already told this story once before in the charming French-language hit "Starbuck." Now, working in Hollywood, he demonstrates the good sense not to mess with success, engineering what amounts to a scene-for-scene remake of that earlier feel-good outing"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/22 vs. Earth & Template:Did you know nominations/Frederick E. Betts
Reidgreg (talk) 04:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Mark IV (software)
( )- ... that the Mark IV report generator was the first commercial software to cross $100 million in total sales? Source: Johnson 1988
Maury Markowitz (talk) 02:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Elisheva Biernoff
( )- ... that Elisheva Biernoff paints recreations of found vintage snapshot photographs, including details like lens flare and overexposure? Source: The New Yorker: "Working from found photographs—snapshots—Biernoff creates works that match, in size, scale, and color, what she sees in the original images." Artforum: "For more than a decade, Elisheva Biernoff has painted exquisitely uncanny trompe l’oeil re-creations of vintage found photographs. Taken as a group, the snapshots on which she bases her works are of no great distinction. Some feature a failure of some kind—overexposure, lens flare, water damage, the accidental intrusion of a foot into the frame, or the glaring reflection of a flash on glass or mirror."
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
Killing of Fernando Rios
( )- ... that there were "jubilant" cheers from the courtroom audience after three Tulane University students were found not guilty of murder in the killing of Fernando Rios?
- Source: Delery 2017 p. 116
JJonahJackalope (talk) 19:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
A Narrative of the Travels and Adventures of Paul Aermont among the Planets
( )- ... that A Narrative of the Travels and Adventures of Paul Aermont among the Planets (1873) was not reprinted for 145 years?
- Source: See the "Publication history" section.
- ALT1: ... that following the cancellation of a planned second edition, A Narrative of the Travels and Adventures of Paul Aermont among the Planets (1873) was not reprinted until 2018? Source: See the "Publication history" section.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wrinkle the duck
- Comment: Feel free to mix and match phrasing between ALT0 and ALT1.
TompaDompa (talk) 16:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
1956 Summer Olympics medal table
( )- ... that medals at the Melbourne Olympics bore different designs for the equestrian events because they were held in Stockholm?
- ALT1: ... that gymnasts Ágnes Keleti and Larisa Latynina both won four gold medals at the Melbourne Olympics? Source:
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Smash Hit
Arconning (talk) 08:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
- The DYKCheck tool doesn't think this has been expanded 5x. ProseSize says the readable prose size has gone from 943 B to 3536 B, which isn't quite a fivefold expansion. The table presumably makes this harder to assess though, so I will leave the final eligibility judgement to someone more experienced with DYKs. Toadspike 11:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Forgot to ping Arconning for clarification/comment. Toadspike 15:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Toadspike I thought 5x expansion meant a 5x expansion on bytes? Let me know if I'm wrong. Arconning (talk) 08:34, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- The "Prose size (including all HTML code)" has gone from 7299 B to 15 kB, and the Wiki text has gone from 4846 B to 24 kB – I assume you mean one of those two? I'm still going to leave this on second opinion for now, since I'm pretty sure WP:DYKPROSE and WP:DYKNEW ("expanded at least fivefold in terms of its prose portion") farther up the page say to only count the prose. Toadspike 09:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Toadspike I thought 5x expansion meant a 5x expansion on bytes? Let me know if I'm wrong. Arconning (talk) 08:34, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 3
Mseilha Fort
( ) Reverse of the 1964 25 Lira banknote featuring the Mseilha Fort- ... that the Mseilha Fort's strategic location oversees the crossing of the Jaouz River near Lebanon’s Ras ash-Shaq'a promontory?
- Source: Davie & Salamé-Sarkis 1990, p. 5.
Salamé-Sarkis 2005, p. 174.
- ALT1: ... that the Mseilha Fort stands near the Jaouz River, guarding ancient routes around Lebanon's challenging Ras ash-Shaq'a promontory? Source: Davie & Salamé-Sarkis 1990, p. 5.
Salamé-Sarkis 2005, p. 174. - ALT2: ... that historical accounts attribute the construction of the Mseilha Fort to Emir Fakhr al-Din II? Source: Asharq Al-Awsat editorial staff 2007.
al-Ḥattūni 1884, p. 76.
Al-Shidyāq 1859, pp. 85, 326–329. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Suqaylabiyah
el.ziade (talkallam) 23:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Louis Malet de Graville
( ) Coat of arms of Louis Malet de Graville- ... that Louis Malet de Graville (coat of arms pictured) began a successful career at the centre of French politics after his father was captured by the English? Source: Deldicque 2021, pp. 23–24
Yakikaki (talk) 21:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Science Fiction Literature through History: An Encyclopedia
( )- ... that Science Fiction Literature through History: An Encyclopedia contains entries on topics not typically associated with science fiction, such as William Shakespeare and the Odyssey?
- Source: See article.
- ALT1: ... that Science Fiction Literature through History: An Encyclopedia contains entries on topics such as William Shakespeare and the Odyssey? Source: See article.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Triple Self-Portrait
- Comment: If ALT0 is viewed as over-explaining things, ALT1 can be used instead.
TompaDompa (talk) 19:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Swim School
( )- ... that a Swim School song described by one reviewer as "a heavy dystopian doom rocker" was originally by Taylor Swift? Source: https://www.undertheradarmag.com/interviews/swim_school_on_expanding_their_sound_during_lockdown_and_their_upcoming_deb
Launchballer 18:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
2024 Masyaf raid
( )- ... that during an Israeli raid in Masyaf in September 2024, soldiers who participated in the operation described the blast that destroyed a missile production facility as "a mini earthquake"?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This article is not new, but recently new information about the operation came out that allowed me to significantly expand it. Excluding the infobox, citations, categories, etc., the prose of the revision before my expansion was around 1,571 characters long, and grew to around 10,750 on the revision after my expansion. (I made this estimate myself with an online word counter so there may be mistakes) This is my first time nominating an article 5x expanded, so please let me know if I did anything wrong or left something out. Thanks in advance! :)
Chomik! (talk?) 05:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on January 4
Special occasion holding area
See also: WP:SOHAThe holding area is near the top of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.
- Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
- Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: Hold criteria; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: Six week limit.
- April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.