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| Now on top of all of this is the "Further reading" (or viewing, or listening, etc.) section which allows editors to provide a completely new listing of sources. First, when there is no provision for individual research or "first-hand" commentary, why is there a listing of personal favourites or "any books, articles, web pages, et cetera that you recommend as further reading, useful background, or sources of further information to readers?" If these sources were so important, why were they not used for research in the first place? | |||
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| That Davidwr, is why I usually do not have a "Further reading" section in my edits. It is confusing enough to have a "references" page, why introduce more references? Now don't get me started on the mess over using an APA bibliographic style guide over the usual MLA guide and then those %4#2*& "templates." That sums up my concerns over the bibliographical sourcing that is recommended by Misplaced Pages. IMHO ] 12:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC). | |||
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| How did you find my newly created article on the Astronaut Hall of Fame? I was surprised that nobody wrote such an article. I was also surprised on how you found it. Is there a list of new articles? I'm a new user so I don't know all the ins and outs.] 21:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I am adding the new inductees to the new category I'm creating. I wanted to tie it in with the existing page. ] 21:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, you commented on ] talk page stating: "Please re-write the sections that are a close match for the given source. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)". My question is, given that the source (http://shiraz.am/en/static/3/) no longer exists, can the template message be removed? If so, could I kindly ask that you do so. Thank you in advance. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == AACS encryption key controversy == | |||
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| about your edits to AACS encryption key controversy. 1: isn't this information in the article already ? 2: Does it really need to be called "in popular culture" ???? --] (] • ] • ]) 16:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| You need to understand I have no say in this. The foundation has decided to restrict this (the devs made it impossible to put the code in Misplaced Pages for example), and attempting to circumvent this is disruptive. I am not censoring you, the operators of Misplaced Pages have decided they do not want this hex code on the site. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :from ]. That statement is over 2 days old. Is it outdated? By the way, I have tried to put the key in my user page. The PREVIEW succeeded, I chose not to save the page, I was just testing. I confess I did cheat - I knew about the spam-filter so I used one of the many non-hexadecimal version of the number floating around the Internet. <font color="#09f911">d</font><font color="#029d74">a</font><font color="#e35bd8">v</font><font color="#4156c5">i</font><font color="#635688">d</font><font color="#c00000">w</font>r <sup><small>]</small></sup> 03:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ::That is still current, but read ] as well. The fact that the devs (who rarely take an active role in the day to day operation of Misplaced Pages) added the code to the internal spam regex shows that there is a need to prevent this, like all copyright violations. ] explains that. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :::Who/what group made the decision to add that to the spamfilter? If it was anyone other than Misplaced Pages's lawyers, then what was the officially stated rationale and where can I read the official statement? By the way, as the numbers themselves are not and cannot be copyrighted, they can be used in any way that does not constitute an anti-circumvention device. For example, the freedom flag, my signature, and other similar works of art and signatures are not in any form that can be directly used as a number. | |||
| ::::You are right, but: "it doesn't matter. The AACS-LA takedown letter is not claiming that the key is copyrightable, but rather that it is (or is a component of) a circumvention technology. The DMCA does not require that a circumvention technology be, itself, copyrightable to enjoy protection"<sup></sup> If the only use of the number is to encourage spreading of the key, that is a problem. I do not know who added it to the filter, but this has ''never'' happened before to my knowledge. This was a change to the database, not the filter admins can edit. If you have questions about the law, ] should be able to answer them far better then I can. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::''If the only use of the number is to encourage spreading of the key, that is a problem.'' At this point, the use of the number outside Misplaced Pages is a form of protest rather than to spread a means to circumvent copyright, much like wearing black arm-bands or wearing duct-tape over one's mouth. I suspect the same is true on Misplaced Pages. <font color="#09f911">d</font><font color="#029d74">a</font><font color="#e35bd8">v</font><font color="#4156c5">i</font><font color="#635688">d</font><font color="#c00000">w</font>r <sup><small>]</small></sup> 04:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::What is the "politically proper" way to ask the Wikimedia Foundation to issue an official statement as to why the code is censored? The public, the administrators, the editors, and specifically the editors of affected material have a moral right to know. <font color="#09f911">d</font><font color="#029d74">a</font><font color="#e35bd8">v</font><font color="#4156c5">i</font><font color="#635688">d</font><font color="#c00000">w</font>r <sup><small>]</small></sup> 04:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::The problem is that the reason this is considered a protest is because it is distributing the encryption key against AACS's wishes. Since the only use of the key (yes, you could theoretically use it for something else, but...) is so that you can decrypt and copy copyrighted files... There really is no way to ask for the foundations opinion, is the closest we've got. Though Kat is a member of the Wikimedia Board of Trustees, that does not officially represent their opinion. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::From Kat's letter: ''Hosting illegal content doesn't help us do that.'' While I agree Misplaced Pages should not be hosting illegal material, I do not concede that any number can in and of itself be illegal under US law. Even if the raw number may be illegal in the context of "here's a number you can use to illegally rip off a DVD: 09f9..." the same number used in a "meta-context" like "the number 09f9... is at the heart of controversy" or "Protest t-shirts for sale, today's new addition: 09f9..." are clearly covered under the 1st ammendment, at least in the USA. Disclaimer: IANAL. I've asked ] for his input on this as well. Speaking of illegal numbers, some secret agent probably has a badge number of 31415. Should that number be banned from Misplaced Pages because it could get the secret agent killed? Well, I would recommend deleting any article-version that tied that number to the secret agent in question. But I would not ban the number. I see the 09f9 situation as similar but much less serious because nobody's life is at stake. <font color="#09f911">d</font><font color="#029d74">a</font><font color="#e35bd8">v</font><font color="#4156c5">i</font><font color="#635688">d</font><font color="#c00000">w</font>r <sup><small>]</small></sup> 05:03, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::I read through the thread on wikien-l. It seems the administrators are divided over whether to allow the key in relevant articles. Now that I have some background, I can see why the key was added to the filter as an emergency action. Something I don't understand though: Now that the emergency has passed, why hasn't one of the following happened: 1) have the office take charge of the issue, 2) un-ban the string for the handful of relevant articles or altogether, or 3) write up a statement explaining the current position, including the strongest arguments and counter-arguments from both sides of the issue, and a date when the issue will be re-evaluated. #1 should only be done if the office gets a lawyer to say there is a legal risk and the office determines the risk is too high. #2a is obviously my preferred choice as long as the spam level is high, after that #2b is the best choice. <font color="#09f911">d</font><font color="#029d74">a</font><font color="#e35bd8">v</font><font color="#4156c5">i</font><font color="#635688">d</font><font color="#c00000">w</font>r <sup><small>]</small></sup> 06:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| I would appeciate it if you would correct this error (attributing the reversion to me) both on the John Glenn talk page and on my talk page. | |||
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| — ] (]) 03:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Done. You have my sincerest apologies. <font color="#09f911">d</font><font color="#029d74">a</font><font color="#e35bd8">v</font><font color="#4156c5">i</font><font color="#635688">d</font><font color="#c00000">w</font>r <sup><small>]</small></sup> 03:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ::: Thanks. ] <sup><small>]</small></sup>(]) 04:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for the Astronaut Hall of Fame help. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one looking at it!] 00:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Please discuss the Supreme Court stub concept on its talk page == | |||
| If you are discussing my ], please discuss it on its talk page, ]. ] <sup><small>]</small></sup>(]) 20:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Spam == | |||
| Given the anon user's string of contributions adding the same external link to multiple articles, I considered the addition of the link to be spam. If, after examining the information contained at the website, you find it would be a useful, unique resource, feel free to add it back to the SCOTUS project's page. '''· <font color="#70A070">]</font>''' ''<font color="#007BA7" size="1">]</font>'' 00:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Ah, thanks. I missed the fact that it was a pay site. That plus anonymity/lack of accountability plus mass seeding = spam even if it is useful. ] <sup><small>]</small></sup>(]) 00:45, 24 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == SHA-1 == | |||
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| Dixie High School (Utah) has been the subject of a lot of vandalism and "juvenile" edits lately. It would be great if an actual student watched the page and reverted the vandalism. davidwr 09f9(talk) 03:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Aporras22" | |||
| --] 22:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| I am a current student at Dixie High I have put this page on my watchlist and I have frequently been fixing the vandalism that has been going on. I try to go on about once every one to two weeks to make sure nothing has been vandalized but ever since I've started watching it nothing has seemed to change. | |||
| == Thanks for the TexShare thanks! == | |||
| Hello David. Thanks for your interest in the TexShare library consortium and for your initial stem article. We appreciate it. By the way, are you the author of the site? The blog is quite popular among librarians. ] 15:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *You are welcome. No, I am not the author of that site. ] (]) 23:18, 15 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Young Junior High School link == | |||
| Even though it has no incoming links, I think it's plausible that someone might type this in looking for this school. If you feel strongly about it, list the redirect at ]. Thanks, ] 04:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks. There are several Young Junior High schools in the USA, so the odds are in fact that it would cause harm in that respect. However, it is over a year old and might ]. ] (]) 04:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Bahia == | |||
| Thank you, I have corrected it yet! ] 04:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Prodding Paul Davidoff == | |||
| Nope, no objections. As I recall the anon requester, back when ] was new, promised to expand the article once it was created, but obviously didn't. I don't know anything more about it than what's there; good luck on your research, but if you don't think it belongs here, so be it. Thank you very much for the polite note, however; a little thoughtfulness goes a long way. :) — ]\<sup>]</sup> 05:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Sub-Saharan Africa == | |||
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| ===initial comments by Henriettaz, around 11:02 16 July 2007=== | |||
| The source that is used to rewrite Black Africa's history, is original. The editors use this original source to redefine the term sub-saharan. In the current version, it is defined as solely a geographic label, which is inaccurate. Sub-saharan Africa is not only geographic, as the Sahara is not inhabited and uninhabitable, but also, and most importantly, racial, cultural and historical. The fact that the editors repeatedly deleted the addition of an anti-afrocentric critique is significant. Why wikipedia has not yet noticed the "novelty" of this interpretation is shocking, and possibly also due to the fact that this same original source is used in all related articles, which redirect to it and vice versa. According to wikipedia, original research is : "a term used in Misplaced Pages to refer to unpublished facts, arguments, concepts, statements, or theories. The term also applies to any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that appears to advance a POSITION — or, in the words of Misplaced Pages's co-founder Jimmy Wales, would amount to a "NOVEL narrative or historical interpretation." | |||
| The article attempts to efface sub-saharan africa's sub-saharaness. It also arrogantly claims that the tern is now "obsolete" and considered pejorative. This is untrue. The term is not obsolete, in fact, it is used by the whole world and all of academia. It is, furthermore, not considered pejorative, except by this "band" of eccentrics, who equate blacksness with inferiority. The article attempts to blur definitions, and makes absurd claims such as,"Africa as a whole was commonly known as "the Dark continent", a term that was usually intended to refer to the Sub-Saharan region. This was partly due to the skin color of its inhabitants." Africa was not commonly known as the dark continent. Sub-saharan Africa, or Black Africa, was known as the dark continent. In fact, North Africa is known as L'afrique Blanche in French, which means White Africa, as the region is largely francophone, and the country that is most familiar with the region is France. It goes on to state that "Further, they are misleading, as dark-skinned Africans are indigenous to much of North Africa, as well." this, again, is inaccurate. Indigenous North Africans are in fact of Eurasian stock, and though Mediterranean peoples and Arabs are known to be tanned or, funnily enough "mediterranean" as in olive-toned, they are clearly quite distinguishable from Sub-saharan or Black Africans. The confusion arises from the inaccurate inclusion of Sudan and Mauritania (not ancient mauritanius) to North Africa, again on wikipedia, two sub-saharan countries. In fact, the very name Sudanese is an Arabic one meaning the black people in Arabic. Arabs themselves named the people of this region, though the distinction was in no way pejorative. Wikipedians keep using UN maps that were devised for "statistical purposes" by the UN to substantiate their inaccuracies. Sadly, hitherto, these wikipedians (and they are always the same when it comes to this region) have overlooked the UN's own caveat that these maps were devised solely for "statistical purposes for carrying our statistical analysis" and should therefore not be used in the study of non-statistical research, as the UN itself warns, "It does not imply any assumption regarding political or other affiliation of countries or territories by the United Nations." Yet, these maps are being used to define and redraw maps. ] (]| ])] | |||
| ::Addendum: I should also mention that I couldn't care less anymore. I have tried to edit these articles for the past 3 weeks, was inflamed, harrassed, provoked, angered. As a newbie, I reacted rather stupidly and naively as I had no idea as to how one is expected to behave. Now, of course, I know about all the rules etc. However, my experience has been that content matters very little, and that articles are veritably hijacked, owned etc. by certain people. After reading the nonsense about North Africa and the Arab world, I simply do not believe that this project makes much sense. The rules are simply strange and sources are ignored. My problem with the sub-saharan article is not at all complex yet no one wants to look into the sources. I simply do not care, but I think it is unfair that certain people impose their "opinions" on the world through the manipulation of the system. So, I'm not at all vested in this, I just thought I'd point out the obvious, though if you are like the others, you will probably OVERLOOK the main problem: content/flimsy, bizarre source. ] (]| ])] | |||
| ===More comments by various editors between 12:51 and 17:37 16 July 2007=== | |||
| Davidwr, could you please take a look at these: ], ], ] and ]. Henriettaz is yet another sock of an abusive, disruptive and blocked user. --] 12:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC) on 17:37, 16 July 2007 Ezeu (Talk | contribs), ''after'' many of the replies below.] | |||
| ::Davidwr, please review a history of Ezeu's contributions before judging the user Mariam83. A good place to start would be the dispute itself and how it started initially. Ezeu, as an admin, did not behave as an admin at first, and sided with the user Halaqah, who used a sockpuppet "Rastarule" during the dispute, to gang up, with Ezeu, against Mariam83. User Halaqah has a dictatorial grip over many articles with the aid of administrators like Ezeu. User Halaqa was reported by another administrator for his questionable conduct during the dispute. I wonder WHY ANOTHER administrator noticed this behavior and not the one that sided with him, Ezeu, who behaved like an editor rather than an administrator the entire time. A perfect example of Ezeu's siding is evident if one carefully reads the archive. Under the section titled "removed POV ranting", he very clearly sides with Halaqah and his sockpuppet Rastarule, and engages in inflamming. He also neglects to focus on the source, which is what began the dispute in the first place. Ezeu has removed many tags, that should not have been removed, simply our of vengeance. I repeatedly asked all involved not to personalize the topics, but they did so rather maliciously, with the hope of overshadowing the main problem: content, source. Again, I do not really care anymore because clearly this project is flawed, sadly because of users who abuse its editing system to replace facts with propaganda. Ezeu is once again, attempting to detract from the main problem: content, by focusing on witiquette, which he himself lacks. He has been protecting pages, reverting blindly etc., and behaving more like a vindictive editor than an administrator, which is why I was shocked to learn that he was one. The removal of tags is unacceptable, and the pretension that they are not deserved is absurd. | |||
| :::The manipulation of language is malicious. Ezeu again displays his manipulative ways, which is what caused all this noise in the first place. Note that he tries to detract from the main issue, and interjects with sockpuppet evidence (much of it untrue) in an attempt to discredit a user. If the archives are perused, it will quickly surface that Mariam83 was intially not a disruptor and not abusive, but merely amended some grossly inaccurate articles. It is in fact abusive for the writers of this propaganda to impose their lies on the public. Initially, you engaged in the brouhaha, and even corroborated Halaqah's distortion. Again, I couldn't care less about what happens here anymore as it is clearly a circus, and wikipedia is obviously not an "encyclopedia" that "anyone" can edit. It is, in fact, controlled by a cadre of editors/administrators who manipulate the system to institutionalize falsities and to monopolize knowledge. All I initially tried to do was correct LIES. The war that ensued, which Ezeu & co. (with years of experience, admin tools& familiarity with the system) waged, is not only corrupt and SAD, but completely inimical to the yielding of anything even remotely balanced or truthful. | |||
| Another very active corrupt administrator is FayssalF. He is working very hard to help established POV gangs maintain control over their articles. His favorite editors are Collounsbury, Bouha/Drmaik, and anyone who agrees with them: | |||
| ]are Cohexer and 66.141.23.186. Could you revert and semi-ptotect the pages (Tunisia, Africa Province among others? Thanks Bouha 13:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ====the following 4 paragraphs is one long edit==== | |||
| -(Same link as above) Thanks for the protect | |||
| Fun stuff those odd little attacks. collounsbury 12:17, 14 July 2007 (UTC). | |||
| -Faysal Mate | |||
| Can you help out on the Maghrebine pages and this bizarre edit war set off by Mariam83? As I noted in comments, I don't even necessarily disagree with some (even a good many) of her edits, but the wholesale vandalistic editing with refusal to discuss at all is bloody stunning. Also rather disturbing is the editing on the African connexion angle, mate, as well as her comments on pages re 3bid, quite racialistic. Best collounsbury 14:54, 20 June 2007 (UTC). | |||
| I'll do my best asap. No worries. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 14:58, 20 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ~Unfortunately, what FayssalF did was protect the page automatically, thus sparking off a battle of sorts. He admitted to NOT reading content or even argument, and hence, blindly obliged his "mate." He has now obliged Bouha, protected his articles, as though his FLAWED knowledge were final, as well as protected Maghreb, Berber, North Africa etc. Sadly, Collounsbury lied, as usual]. If anything, MAriam83 discussed things way too much, and repeatedly referenced claims with authoritative sources: britannica, oxford, UN, Columbia, Stanford, not some "fringe" work. | |||
| ===My reply of 00:17 17 July 2007=== | |||
| '''STOP''' all of you. I am not here to evaluate contributors. I'll evaluate contributions on their merits. Specifically, how much the contributions mesh with academic viewpoints and with generally accepted viewpoints on the subject matter. I will discuss this more on the article talk page. I may be fairly new at Misplaced Pages, but this isn't my first time walking into the middle of a dispute that's on the verge of degenerating into a chorus of "I'm right because my opponent is a loser." If anyone continues to disparage their opponent, if they are lucky I will ignore them. If they aren't, I'll count it against them. | |||
| This issue is first and foremost a content dispute. For those of you who have engaged in ] ''whether or not you have ever been blocked or even warned'' - and you should know who you are - '''stop'''. For those of you who haven't yet done so, '''don't start.''' | |||
| '''Editors banned or blocked from that page but who are allowed to post here:''' I will be asking a series of questions on the article talk page. Since you can't answer there, you may answer them on my user talk page if you like. The more concise and less opinionated your answer the more likely I'll give it weight. This does not apply to editors blocked or banned from my user talk page or from all of Misplaced Pages. | |||
| Oh, one more thing: '''Please sign your posts,''' it saves me a lot of time. How hard is it to put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>? ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 00:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC). Updated ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 03:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Who am I? HAR HAR. No, seriously, though. | |||
| Just put up a disambiguation page. | |||
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| ==most ancient common ancestor== | |||
| Greetings, | |||
| I'm e-mailing you to let you know that I plan to try again with my article., ]. I realize that ideas such as the Earth is round often meet with popular resistance, but ultimately prove correct. It took ] some 30 years before experts realized that she was right. I find it grossly unfair that the article was deleted before I had a chance to comment on it. Perhaps more disturbing, however, is that those who voted for deletion did so after the article was gutted by Fred Hsu, who nominated it for deletion. | |||
| Let me say that there was also a misunderstanding. I realize that if we are talking intra-speciation, then our ] might be a 'sponge.' But I was talking within-species. The idea is that, if humans evolved from multiple origins (as hypothesized in the multiregional hypothesis) and these later populations intermixed, then there would come a point in time when a first (or most ancient) common ancestor would emerge. Even if the idea is not totally right, to think that a single chimp-ancestor mutated into a 'human' in a single step is complete and utter bunk.] 02:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Sigh. Davidwr, before you reply, please see ] on my talk page. I hope he fixed the screwed-up text blocks he left. ] 03:10, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Ryoung122, I strongly recommend you find a related article and expand it. Be sure cite heavily and avoid anything that sounds like original research, or it's likely to be tagged {{tl|fact}} then reverted. If you write a similar article with the same topic, you will likely lose any resulting AFD and find the name ] or the page replaced with a protected redirect to prevent recreation. If you want a deletion review, you can request one. Deletion reviews are typically granted if there is a procedural issue. If you were away from Misplaced Pages during most of the AFD period, that ''might'' qualify. If you ] me, the mail has not yet arrived. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 03:18, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :: I am dumbfounded by what Ryoung122 is producing. I wish I could watch his 'contributions' page. Check out ]. I can't believe he quoted what I just wrote on my talk page as supporting evidence for his now-deleted article. I am speechless. ] 03:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ryoung122's ] page. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 04:18, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Right. I mean: put that contributions page in my watch list... ] 12:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yes, that is the argument here...I was away and did not have a chance to explain or argue my position; therefore I am requesting a 'deletion review'...either a restoration or a re-vote.] 02:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==most ancient common ancestor part 2== | |||
| I have started MORE THAN 54 articles and so far, only ONE has been deleted. I suppose that ] was a much less controversial topic than human origins, however. | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Willow_oak | |||
| I'm glad to see that Fred Hsu is dumbfounded, because people like that think they know everything, just like ] thought persecuting Christians was the right thing to do. Later, he changed his mind. Perhaps Mr. Hsu needs to read ]'s work on ]. Intelligence isn't everything; being open-minded and able to consider other points of view are important. That doesn't mean that we should corrupt things the way that Time Magazine sells out to religion at Christmas time. That does mean that we don't know as much about the human genome or evolution or speciation as we think we know. The Linnean system of nomenclature has recently strained as it became increasingly apparent that it is, at best, an artificial model which imperfectly fits the reality of biology. For a more real assessment, I suggest reading this: | |||
| http://www.ohiou.edu/phylocode/ | |||
| Have a good day.] 02:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :], anyone? ] 02:54, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==most ancient common ancestor part 3== | |||
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| Here I am again--because apparently some people prejudge without having open minds. I find the below comments to be condescending, at best: | |||
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| I concur. Please read Misplaced Pages:Good articles and Misplaced Pages:What is a good article?. Since your article is on a novel or not-widely-accepted scientific theory, creating a good article with plenty of easy to verify references mainly from secondary and tertiary sources will make it much harder to delete through AFD. If you do not have at least 3-4 independent, high-quality, well-respected secondary sources, and at least one primary source, then the article should not be written. If you cannot provide a reference any substantial statement in the article if asked to do so, then that particular statement should be removed. The bulk of the article should be supportable entirely by secondary sources. If you do not follow these instructions, the odds are any rewrite will spur an AFD, and it will likely fail. Personally, I ope you can write a good article on this subject. However, I looked for references and was unable to find more than 4. Of course, these do not include written material and most material in subscription databases. Books and printed articles that are not "novelty press" publications are perfectly valid resources. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC) }} | |||
| First off, articles do not begin as 'good articles'--they begin as 'stubs.' If the topic is significant enough, the material may be expanded and worked on to one day attain 'good article' status. Wow. Is that too hard to understand? | |||
| Second, Misplaced Pages's English version is fairly well-established now. Basic, gotta-have-it articles have all been started a long time ago. If you want to read about ] you can find out about the 'ex-planet' or the god or the cartoon character, no problem. Misplaced Pages is now in an ] stage where the only things left to add are either new information (i.e. future events haven't happened yet) or specialized ideas that the average Joe on the street wouldn't have any idea about to begin with. To me, you cannot judge an article's worth by the number of hits on Misplaced Pages...or even the number of hits, period. As it has been said, only 3 people read ]'s paper about the genetics of corn in the first 20 years or so. But eventually the rest of science caught up to realize that, you know what, she was right after all. Remember when ulcers 'weren't caused by bacteria' or when the moon's craters were 'due to volcanism'? It took a while to overthrow old ideas. The pope got mad at Galileo and his 'heliocentric' ideas. But on further inspection, Galileo's ideas weren't 'original research,' they were just leading-edge ideas that had been out of vogue for a few millennia. | |||
| Third, an idea need not be 'correct' to warrant an article. We see articles about ] because it contributed to the history of thought regarding the movement of stars across the sky. Likewise, I am not so much an advocate of the 'multiregional' hypothesis as I am an advocate of not dismissing it based on smoke-and-mirrors data. It is clear that the 'mitochondrial Eve' idea was misrepresented in 'popular' science (i.e. National Geographic, which sacrifices facts in order to spin material to make it popular with the buying masses) and that, even some scientists misunderstood the concept. I was merely showing the many loopholes out there. And last I checked, this was a major website, not some 'novelty press': | |||
| http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/neanderthals/mtdna.html | |||
| Moreover, the researchers determined that the common ancestor to Neanderthals and modern Homo sapiens lived as long as 500,000 years ago, well before the most recent common mtDNA ancestor of modern humans. This suggests (though it does not prove) that Neanderthals went extinct without contributing to the gene pool of any modern humans. | |||
| There are many variables that can affect the mutation rate of mtDNA, including even the possibility that mtDNA is not always inherited strictly through maternal lines. In fact, recent studies show that paternal mtDNA can on rare occasions enter an egg during fertilization and alter the maternal mtDNA through recombination. Such recombination would drastically affect the mutation rate and throw off date estimates. | |||
| Not surprisingly, there is currently a heated debate over the value of "mitochondrial Eve" -- especially between history-hunting geneticists and some fossil-finding paleoanthropologists. According to these anthropologists, even if we could accurately gauge the age of the ancestor, that knowledge is meaningless because all she really is is the woman whose mtDNA did not die out due to random lineage extinctions. Furthermore, her status as the most recent common ancestor doesn't mean that she and her contemporaries were any different from their ancestors. (Remember, she and all of her contemporaries had their own mitochondrial Eve.) | |||
| In fact, I am not 'advocating' for one idea, I am merely expounding the many caveats and viewpoints of the topic. If humans began from multiple sources and later gene flow merged them into one species (as the multiregional hypothesis suggests), then there would be a 'most ancient common HUMAN ancestor'. Is that too hard to figure out? Just as an analogy, these two trees began growing from separate seeds, but at some point merged into one trunk: | |||
| http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2601092460027851211lCOocd | |||
| Again, this may be an exception to the rule and defies common sense and logic concerning tree growth. But, it happened (legend has it the Indians tied two trees together as a symbol of peace). | |||
| The real points of my articles are to make contributions in areas that are still missing, especially where these may lead to new ways of thinking. Yet in coming up with an idea, often someone else thought of it before...it just may not have been put up into an article on Misplaced Pages yet. I find it quite amazing that Mr. Fred Hsu...who probably thinks he is so brilliant, but yet is too small-minded to consider that there is more than one way to view things...then admitted that much of what I was saying was already in Richard Dawkin's books. So I find it DISHONEST to nominate an article for deletion, claim original research, and then admit it wasn't original research after the fact. | |||
| As time goes on, I do become disappointed in humanity...mainly due to hypocrisy. Like that South Park episode, where the goth kids insisted a new member 'conform' to their gothic ways...scientists often critize people for thinking 'unscientifically,' then turn to emotions instead of logic in their assessments. Claiming from a sample of just 147 people to have identified the 'mitochondrial Eve' and to date her to '200,000 years ago' was almost a scientific hoax. When the true story came out...the estimates were from 50,000 to 500,000 years ago...the results meant very little. At least NOVA undestood and admitted one thing: pinpointing the 'mitochondrial Eve' and the "Y-chromosomal Adam" can tell us that humans most likely originated in Africa, but it cannot tell us when the first waves of human migration out of that continent succeeded. Did the pioneers in Israel 100,000 years ago contribute anything to our DNA? We don't know yet. Perhaps a test of their DNA and ours will tell. But not a statistical calculation that is a mere correlation to, but not a function of, human migration. Otherwise, we could argue that since the "most recent common ancestor" lived just 6,000 years ago, the Bible is true and Adam and Eve left the 'Garden of Eden' just six millenia ago. Why is it that scientists can see the illogic in connecting two unrelated things, yet they cannot see the illogic in inventing their own ] religion, and making religious dates that cannot be disputed, even when the 'proof' is not proof, but just teleological arguments. | |||
| Now, I have written this because I am giving you the benefit of the doubt; you can think openly or you can be Fred Hsu's yes-man. The choice is yours.] 02:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :'''Editor's note:''' I added <nowiki>{{cquote| ... }}</nowiki> around your quotation. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 02:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :To be worthy of Misplaced Pages, something must meet the ]. Lots of stuff here does NOT meet these needs. Articles that do not meet these needs are subject to revision or calls for deletion. The less controversial a topic, the more likely it will simply be ignored instead of edited or deleted. For matters of up-and-coming scientific ideas, Misplaced Pages generally tracks the prevailing world opinion with a slight lag. Before they meet Misplaced Pages's notability requirements, such ideas need to have noticeable publicity or be taken seriously by a noticeable minority of scientists. To meet the verifiability requirements, it must have sufficient secondary sources to prove that not only is the subject matter verifiable, but its notability is verifiable. Also, when dealing with a term that can be used in several different ways, it helps to have a clear-cut disambiguation page. | |||
| :As for articles all starting as stubs: This is simply not true. Some items are so notable that a stub is better than no article. Other items are semi-notable and should not have an article at all until there is more than just a stub. For example, current mayors of medium-sized cities should not have an article at all unless their notability can be firmly established. This pretty much rules out stubs. However, every mayor in history of world cities like London, England should be listed, even if it is just a stub. The article that was recently AFDd needed to be more than a stub. It needed to be more than a start-class article. Before being posted it should have been drafted as a user sub-page as at least a B-class if not a Good Article, then moved or copied into the main space. This would have made it much more resistant to any AfD. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 02:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| Apparently, being a WWI survivor until this date does merit an article. If you look at that list, you'll note that all verified WWI veterans have their own article, and most of them are not notable in any other way than having served in WWI and surviving until this day (This is not meant in a disrespectful way towards the veterans, btw, I'm just saying it plainly to get the message across). I'm giving up on this, I can spend my time much better than to fight sillyness and self promotion. ]]] 00:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| We are '''nine days''' away from the end of the drive, and it's been fantastic! Many, many, many days of backlog have been tackled, and over 1500 articles reviewed!<br /> | |||
| To start off, a '''HUGE THANKS''' to everyone who helped out with the coordination of the drive, and actually fighting the backlog in the drive itself. Everyone's done a great job helping out, no matter how many articles you've reviewed/ | |||
| Remember to update your ], on the drive page. This is the '''ONLY''' way that I will be able to give out awards appropriately. | |||
| Lastly, I will be giving out awards on August ''16th''. Anyone who could help me, that would be fantastic. Contact me on my talk page if you'd like to volunteer. | |||
| Great job, everyone! This Drive has been fantastic, and I'm sure that some members of the Project have definitely made friends by collaborating on the talk pages. Thanks,<br /> | |||
| GrooveDog</sup></font>. | |||
| </div> | |||
| ==Regarding Pennsylvania State Senate and House pages== | |||
| Davidwr you left me a message about creating pages for the Pennsylvania State Senate and House Districts, saying that I should register before createing them. I can't do this for various reasons, can't I submit my articles through the articles for creation page like I did for the previous ones. And if the 55th and 64th House District pages aren't created yet by the days end I will let you know. | |||
| Thank You. | |||
| ==A thank you== | |||
| David, thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. I wonder who I pissed off that time :) ] 13:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| =={{{header-text|Notability of ]}}}== | |||
| A tag has been placed on ], requesting that it be ] from Misplaced Pages. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the ], articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please ]. | |||
| If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding <code>{{tl|hangon}}</code> to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on ] explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for ''speedy'' deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Misplaced Pages guidelines. | |||
| For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria ], ], ], or ]. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.<!-- Template:Nn-warn --> ] 00:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Could I please have a barnstar?... == | |||
| Hi, this page ] says you hand out barnstars to people who have created more than 5 articles in 5 days well... umm *ahem*... could I please have one, sir? Check the backlog history - I've cleared most of April 2007 and helped close several other months. Cheers --] 21:53, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Done, thanks :-) --] 22:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Done again :-| --] 22:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::... did I do something wrong? :-) --] 22:58, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Cheers, and I know I'm a pest but could you please give me the afc barnstar (I can't count how many i've reviewed and none of them the cheating mass-moderated way)? Much appreciated! --] 23:09, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Grossman== | |||
| Ah, that makes more sense, thanks. I agree on the runner, and have added a disambig note to ]. As for the hurricane researcher, since he's only listed in a minor way at this time, as the author of a citation, I don't think it's worth making a complete disambig page, since there's really not anything solid to link to. If it does turn out that he's notable enough for a separate bio later, we can easily create a disambig page at that time. How's that sound? --]]] 22:02, 12 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == It's much tougher to accept articles! == | |||
| Sure you can quote me with:"It's much tougher to accept articles!" after all its under GFDL! And thanks for the Barnstar - its the first one I have ever got. ] 02:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == RE: your message on ] == | |||
| Sure thing - just realized that, sorry. --] 03:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid grey;" |] barnstars are the official award for outstanding, extensive, high-quality, or generally valued contributions to ] Or they can be awarded by anyone, to anyone who has showed significant efforts to improve ]. <BR> | |||
| Thank you for creating ] from the articles for creation list! ] | ] 03:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ==]== | |||
| When I peeked at page history I only see you...How do I find this other user? Thank you for your note BTW] | ] 04:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, my goodness! I didn't know of this process of the AFC. I will let the barnstar stand, as if you hadn't been there to do the copying process, the article still wouldn't have been created, however, I will also say hello to this other user, and thank you! ] | ] 04:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ==articles on journals== | |||
| Not that anything you say is the least wrong, but I have expanded somewhat on the talk page for User:Journals88--there's been a good deal of prior discussion on this. I'm not sure just what your specialty is , but it is by no means certain that all journals from that particular publisher are notable. For example,in most fields of biological sciences, I would be very skeptical of most claims for journals not included in WebofScience. But glad to have you aboard!''']''' (]) 02:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == AFC Drive - Last Day! == | |||
| As I write this message, we officially have 2 hours left before the end of the drive. Prizes will be awarded tomorrow, so don't worry, I haven't forgotten. It's been a great drive, with tons of work accomplished. Thanks, everyone. ] ] 21:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<small> Automaticlly delivered by ] at 21:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC) </small> | |||
| == AFC drive == | |||
| Just so you know, I made my fifth article. '''Cheers,''' '''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 23:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, it just ended. I think it was great! We got 4600 articles reviewed! '''Cheers,''' '''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 00:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Damn == | |||
| Ah, we got close enough. We cleared out maybe 3/4 of the backlog - you managed to swipe that Gold Wiki Award away from me at the last minute (:-P) - and we've only a few months left that can be safely mass-moderated. We did good. ''''']''''' <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 02:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| Looks fine now - my concern is generally references, but also appears to meet notoriety as well. ] 04:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for fixing taht one up that I put in. From the AFC drive I had a couple of speedy deletes that I know of, both for copyvios, one I put in myself. ] 05:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == AFC Drive Award == | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: center; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | You accumulated '''695''' total articles reviewed in the last month! Great job, and thanks for your help! I will DEFINITELY be planning another drive sometime in the future, so keep posted and keep reviewing! ] <small>(]) (])</small> 12:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: center; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | You had the '''MOST''' articles reviewed during the drive, so I hereby award you the golden wiki award! Thanks tons for your help during the drive, it was much appreciated! ] <small>(]) (])</small> 13:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == NOEDITSECTION reply == | |||
| Shoot. I don't read help desk stuff very much (which I should, no sarcasm). If someone hasn't already, I'll go remove it. | |||
| == acne == | |||
| Hi, you edited my text on skin and acne. This is about an exfoliating technique that I found extremely positive in acne problems. I believe this kind of related alternative medicine needs to be known from users searching on skin problems. Can you revert? thanks! <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) {{{Time|21:49, August 21, 2007 (UTC)}}}</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Please read the ] then discuss this on the talk pages of the articles. In general, "I've found ''whatever'' to be helpful" is not grounds for inclusion. See ] and ] for more. It is unlikely other editors will support the edit. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 23:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Request for an article to be created == | |||
| Hi David, I notice that you are active on requests for article creation. I've actually put an article forward because there is one article I can't create myself, which is ]. I actually work for them, so I'm following this process. However, I notice that the ] page tells me not to submit the article as I'm a registered user. However, ] guidelines state that I shouldn't really create the article. Should the articles for creation warning be modified slightly? Also, in your opinion, do you think that I have done the right thing here? I'm trying to show good faith editing here, especially as I'm a long-time administrator. - ] 07:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :OK. That wasn't the response that I expected. I am a well-respected, long time editor and administrator of Misplaced Pages. I am also an Australian with an English background (I have English and Irish blood). My username is an in joke. Sorry, the last sentence I wrote came out wrong, so I've removed it. I was just surprised (even a little insulted!) by the response... I guess I'm just saying I understand how the site works, as I actually started things like ], and have also done things like modified policy correctly. I just don't want a conflict of interest in this one article. The COI noticeboard is interesting, I didn't know of this. - ] 09:04, 25 August 2007 (UTC), modified 09:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Reminder to Mentor== | |||
| Hola Mentors! | |||
| Im sending you this reminder because you volunteered to mentor my students in English Advanced B as they become contributing members of the Misplaced Pages community. We start working with Misplaced Pages in earnest next week. I ask you to take a look at your entry in the Mentor Table at ] | |||
| Please update the information, esp. with what your technical and informational expertise is or, if you have decided that you no longer want to participate, please remove your information from the table. Please watch the pages associated with the project. Students will contact you via your user page and as soon as my students have user pages, I will put them on the navigation bar associated with the project. | |||
| I don’t need to remind you that your job is NOT to write their assignments for them, of course. I certainly will tell my students that… and the fact that you are volunteers that don’t have to help them… so they need to be nice. If any students misbehave (tho I don’t expect it) don’t hesistate to contact me and I will take care of it. The goal of this project is to integrate successfully into the Misplaced Pages community. Anyway… what I really need your help with is helping students get oriented to Misplaced Pages, make appropriate changes and write about appropriate topics (see ] for assignments). I also need your technical expertise… I am only an English teacher after all! I appreciate what technology does for us but I am no technical expert! | |||
| Again, thank you for volunteering and you will hear from us again soon! ] 19:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Thelmadatter | |||
| ==Your recent edits== | |||
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| == ] Backlog Drive == | |||
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| | ] has done a tremendous job in working at ] over the past 7½ months. Thank you all for your hard work and dedication! Together, we've made the submission process easier and more streamlined, developed tools to make the process go faster for reviewers, and cut the backlog down to a mere fraction of what it once was. Well done!<br> | |||
| As you all are aware, however, our work is not quite yet done. The project still has 10 archive pages left to complete, which include over half a month's worth of submissions, many of which have not been completely reviewed. We need your help to finish looking over these neglected submissions so that we can finally remove the backlog notice from the page, and put an end to the more than two year old backlog that has been a thorn in our side for ages! Participants will receive an AFC Barnstar, so hurry up and help out while there's still work to be done! Make sure to sign in on the WikiProject's ] so we know who is involved in what promises to be our final effort to complete this goal. Thank you for all your help!<br> | |||
| - ''Happy editing as always,'' ] <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 16:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| <small>''You are receiving this letter because you are listed as a participant in the Articles for creation WikiProject at ]. To avoid receiving further notices, please remove your name from the list. Thanks!''</small> | |||
| == Helen Keller photo is PD == | |||
| Hi, David. Just to let you know, that ] is in the public domain. The change from 100 years to 120 years did not go into effect until 1998, and the 100-year term expired at the end of 1988, almost ten years earlier. This is a great fact pattern. I teach copyright law, and I'll use this as an example next time I have to discuss how section 303 works. ] (]) 19:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ''The copyright law and commentary pages I've read don't call out this exception...'' It's not an "exception," actually. It's merely that the law was different at the relevant time. From 1978-1987, the rule was (cutting to the essentials here) creation+100. Anything that was up for expiration in that timeframe played by that rule. In 1998 (might as well have been 1/1/1998, since expirations only occur at end-of-year), the law changed to creation+120. So anything that would previously have ben up for expiration in 1998 or later played by the new rule. | |||
| ''Did the old law cover photographs which were never published prior to 1998?'' Yes. Essentially, prior to 1978, unpublished works were covered by state copyright. Starting in 1978 it was all federalized, and for works like this, previously created, but not published or otherwise copyrighted, there was a special rule: we'll treat this just like any other work, except that copyright will last until at least through 2002; and if it gets published by that time, at least through 2027 (later changed to 2047). This assured at least a 25-year copyright (1978-2002) for unpublished works, and 50 years (1978-2027), later 70 years (1978-2047) for published works. Apart from that provision, they played by any other work's rules. Those rules were, for an anonymous work, the lesser of creation+100 or publication+75. Here, that's the lesser of 1888+100=1988 or 2008+75=2083; or 1988. Note that if this photo had been taken 10 years later, in 1898, its 100 years would have been up in 1998, and it would have been scheduled for expiration at the end of 1998; but the 20-year extension also kicked in in 1998, which would have let given it another 20 years, to 2018. | |||
| ''Please update-and-improve any Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia copyright-related FAQs....'' I'd be happy to. Could you point me to them? ] (]) 20:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Redirect of ]== | |||
| ]Hello, this is a message from ]. A tag has been placed on ], by {{#ifeq:{{{nom}}}|1|] (] '''·''' ]),}} another Misplaced Pages user, requesting that it be ] from Misplaced Pages. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because ] is a redirect to a non-existent page (]). <br><br>To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting ], please affix the template <nowiki>{{hangon}}</nowiki> to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at ]. Feel free to contact the ] if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that '''this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click ''' ] (]) 03:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == "descendants of" == | |||
| Oops. I'm not sure how that happened :) I re-added it. ] (]) 20:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament== | |||
| I did not submit the actual blogs. Someone else put them in and I referenced them. ] (]) 7:30 PM US EDT Mar 23 2008. | |||
| :I found a new reference for the radio announcers from a Westwood One press release for the record. I guess that's where they got the information on the blog as that is where many of them get them. ] (]) 12:58 AM US EDT Mar 24 2008. | |||
| == Yearbooks & Diplomas == | |||
| How exactly does one cite a yearbook or a diploma? I could see why my word (or my dad's) couldn't be counted as a source, but in regards to sources, how exactly does one cite these things? ] (]) 04:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Yearbooks would be cited the same as any other book. See ] for info. A diploma is unpublished and probably should not be cited unless it is part of a collection available for public inspection. For example, President Kennedy's high school diploma may be at his Presidential library and available for citation. Many universities and some high schools and school districts keep graduation programs on file in a way that can be cited, talk to the university librarian. Newspapers may also publish lists of graduates, that would make a much better and easier to cite source. | |||
| :In general, only college degrees would be considered encyclopedic. However, since he was a "home town mayor" his graduating from the local high school may be useful. | |||
| :The purpose of a citation is so someone could look up the information if they were so inclined. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 15:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Deletion of ] in ] == | |||
| Thanks for bringing the reopening of the discussion to my attention. My first inkling of the discussion was seeing the template deleted in the ] article. I was shocked; this seems like a worthwhile template. ] (]) 04:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks. == | |||
| Thank you for the note. It's nice to get something well formatted in return - and I hope the Slashdot link I provided offered some insight into the possibility it is a hoax. However, I did not feel it necessary to include _that_ link on the main page for the article. (TPMS) Being an embedded software programmer, I understand the possibility of signal leakage, and what-not... so indeed, I can concur with the thought that this may be a possible "security concern". So, in all, yes, do restore that portion of the article when you feel it necessary. ] (]) 12:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Thanks. I was planning to do this earlier but I forgot about it. They never served a purpose because they were proposals for splitting ] which were never implemented. I've requested all the pages to be deleted per ]. ] | ] 07:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Actually the remaining two were done by ], so you might want to ask him whether he wants to keep them. ] | ] 08:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == botnet articles == | |||
| I know all about ] for what its worth, not sure if that was directed at me for the check it out reference--I wrote most of it. :) I just added whatever I could find right off, to save everyone a possible time sink of an AFD. ;) I wouldn't mind doing another like this, if it's as interesting. <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><font color="#800080">] § ]/]</font></span> 17:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Speedy delete of ], ], ] == | |||
| No problems. I created these articles as part of a tidy up of article ], and in remedying some mis-links I found doing this. The content is not mine, and I have no view on whether they are notable or not.-- ] (]) 10:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == David S. Gruder == | |||
| Hello. Recently, an article that I had written, David Gruder, was deleted. I read through all of the comments made and have made revisions, but have changed the article to ''David S. Gruder''. Since your comments truly guided me, would you edit it or at least guide me in the correct direction as to what else I need to do? Thank you so much for your help.] (]) 18:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Thank you so much! == | |||
| I really appreciate your assistance and ethics about the David S. Gruder page. I am going to get more secondary sources to add to the article.--] (]) 16:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Image copyright problem with Image:100kgCanadianGoldOnPedestal.gif== | |||
| Thanks for uploading ]. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of ], but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets ]. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an ] linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check | |||
| :* That there is a ] on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in. | |||
| :* That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page. | |||
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| == Additional edits for David S. Gruder == | |||
| I have added additional sources for David S. Gruder. Would you please let me know if these are satisfactory as references for notability? Thank you very much for your help. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == David S. Gruder--a few more questions. == | |||
| First, thank you, thank you for all of your assistance! I made changes as you suggested. However, if I mention the Political Intelligence Rating Tool, isn't that sort of spammish since he is using it to leverage The New IQ? Also, I have physically viewed his three awards--how do I cite this? I couldn't seem to find anything relating to this. Should I inline cite ACEP, San Diego Book Awards and Collier's websites for references? Thanks. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Edict of Turda == | |||
| Thanks for letting me know about splitting out ] from ]; that looks like a good idea. ] (]) 02:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==My Award== | |||
| It must be because I have more than one account (did not register email address and thus could not regain password once I lost it) - but as to be fair I will remove the medal and replace with one more suitable to this account. Thanks for providing the link which identifies how long I have been registered as I didn not know how to tell this. --] (]) 23:30, 17 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Appologies, didn't realise I placed my last message on your userpage --] (]) 23:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Strom Botnet article change ] (]) 18:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC) == | |||
| Hallo, Davidwr! | |||
| Thanks for the tips, how to use Wiki more efficiently and for your time and input! | |||
| Never knew about possibility to discuss online, using Wiki generally for education. I think its great! | |||
| About the change, I changed "Later provocative subjects included, Chinese missile shot down USA aircraft" to | |||
| ".. Russian aircraft/satellite." in Storm Botnet ] article, because I was cross-reading on the origins of zombiebots and in the original article on ], which data is used at Storm botnet, the phrase is stated as: | |||
| "Chinese/Russian missile shot down Chinese/Russian satellite/aircraft". | |||
| Following the link(9)@], I found this: | |||
| "The first several spam blasts of the Trojan -- which was named "Peacomm" by Symantec (NSDQ: SYMC) -- came with current event subject heads, including ones claiming to include video of a Chinese missile attack or proof that Saddam Hussein lives, and bore attached files such as "video.exe." | |||
| So, i guess, the phrase "Chinese/Russian missile shot down Chinese/Russian satellite/aircraft" should be modified into "Chinese missile shot down USA aircraft" in ] article. Just for means of historical accuracy. | |||
| Thanks for your input! | |||
| -unsigned comment by 18:51, 18 April 2008 213.196.220.153 (Talk) | |||
| ==We're mates== | |||
| Thanks, I've added a less friendly warning! ] (]) 05:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Cathy McMorris Rodgers == | |||
| You raise an interesting question, but unfortunately I do not have a good answer. Since I do not know which way is correct, I went ahead and created a redirect from ] to ]. --] (]) 21:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==HEY== | |||
| Dont worry I am off wikipedia for good now on all my accounts!--] (]) 16:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==re:== | |||
| I have serious misgivings about deletion tags on album articles. These articles exist as matters of convention and convenience to the reader, and the (over) strict adherence to notability guidelines does people a disservice. Their content is encyclopedic, and if the presence of a stand-alone article makes you uncomfortable, you should by all means consider merging the information into the parent article. But removing the information through deletion (or notability tags, which are keys to deletion) is simply discourteous. ] (]) 04:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Please, you're not trying to understand me. Or, trying to not understand me. The convention of creating album pages for all the albums by an artist predates the strict notability/MIRS sourcing requirements for every individual page. People put up album pages because it's convenient to have the information on a clickable stand-alone page. Think of it from the user-end standpoint (something we do precious little of here at Wiki). For my part, I think it's frankly worthless to think about whether an album is the subject of multiple sources or not, if the artist has a page, but I refuse to quibble over this minor matter of policy with people. What I am certain of is that the track listings of albums is inherently encyclopedic. If you find an album page which you wish to have removed from the encyclopedia, I wish that you would instead merge the tracklist with either a discography page or the parent musician's article, since all of the information on the album page should be recorded here ''somewhere''. ] (]) 04:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::It's hard for me to tell whether you're being flippant or not. I guess it doesn't matter; do as you wish. I'm only one voice, and a rather lonely one on this matter. ] (]) 04:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::My apologies, then. I will say that gunning down album pages is rather in vogue, and if you decide to take it up as a hobby you'll find little opposition, especially if you aim at demos and mixtapes. The policy changes have superseded the convention, and so many editors see themselves as "setting things aright" in doing so. I disagree, but like I said, I am in a minority. ] (]) 05:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Age== | |||
| He was born in 1991. Ive known him since I was about 7 or 8, and he was in a couple of classes with me in elementary school. ''unsigned comment by 04:08, 22 April 2008 Emmure 89'' | |||
| ''note: moved from User_Talk:davidwr/Jordan Francis'' ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 04:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Jordan== | |||
| It's done, except I don't know if/how it's possible to change/conceal the edit history. many thanks ] (]) 06:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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