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| == Vandalism == | |||
| Please don't call long term editors in good standing vandals. Please read ]. ] (]) 02:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Long term editors who act as inappropriate as vandals deserve far more scrutiny than any other ''class'' of editors. ] (]) 02:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::You'll forgive me if I am unmoved by an editor with less then 20 edits calling a user in good standing's actions inappropriate. Spend some time editing the encyclopedia and get some experience. Thanks. ] (]) 02:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == fan club == | |||
| Send me an email sometime. | |||
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| ] (]) 06:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Unacceptable legal threat == | |||
| Hi Tachyonbursts. is a legal threat, and unacceptable under one of our most vigorously enforced principles, ]. Constructive and open discussion is impossible if one party resorts to legal threats. You are, of course, free to pursue whatever legal means you want to, but you cannot do or even threaten this while continue to edit Misplaced Pages. Please retract the statement immediately and confirm this here. If not, you will be blocked. Thanks. --] (]) 19:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| {{unblock reviewed|I'll certainly take upon advice and retract inappropriate statement immediately. If you let me, that is. ] (]) 22:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)|Misplaced Pages policy is to ask that any editor who makes ] immediately stops editing until the threats are resolved. If the editor concerned is not willing to do this voluntarily, will will enforce this policy via blocks. If you are prepared to state without reservation or qualification that you will not be pursuing ''any'' legal action related to Misplaced Pages, then I am happy to unblock you. You have not made the necessary commitment yet. ] 23:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)}} | |||
| I'll post some musica while we wait, ok? | |||
| Here's a , if we ever seen one… ] (]) 23:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :There is no requirement that you get a block notice here. You know you are blocked because you automatically see the block notice when you try to edit. Sarcasm like the above does little to make a case that you are here to edit constructively. I suggest you avoid it. ] 23:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Albright, thanks, here's another ''imo'' it is… ] (]) 23:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| '''Your request to be unblocked''' has been '''granted''' for the following reason(s): | |||
| <br><br>I mentioned this to the blocking admin and since you have retracted your legal threat, I've unblocked you. | |||
| ''Request handled by:'' ] (]) 03:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :::How about some ] (]) 23:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::I've contacted the blocking admin to get his input. ] 23:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Many, many thanks, here's a ] (]) 23:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: ] (]) 00:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::: is how my particular POV reflects current discussions I'm following via watchlist… ] (]) 00:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Nope, if you ban me from editing 9/11 articles I'll have to go straight to arbitration committee along with the whole bunch of editors we've mentioned in last few days. If you choose to enforce arbcom decisions on my account, while failing to do the same with user Aude you'll force me into such action. I'd suggest you take my commitment with good faith in which it was made and let me continue to edit our encyclopedia through decent discussions, such as we had before Aude came along and openly defied consensus. This was a burst. ] (]) 00:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Gwernol I'm certain that unfounded accusations of sock puppetry carry certain weight, if you fellows can't make decision based on commitment shared above, I'll ask for a hearing. Thank you for your understanding. Please, do share your thoughts. ] (]) 01:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here. On studying your editing contributions, its seems likely to me that you have edited on Misplaced Pages before creating this particular account. Its also fairly clear that you are only interested in editing articles related to 9/11. You have confirmed that you are not interested in the broader project of Misplaced Pages, only in your ability to push your own point of view on a narrow range of articles. You are, of course, within your rights to go before the arbitration committee - that's what they are there for. Beyond that, I am still going to wait to hear from the blocking admin before taking action. Your continued sarcasm here really isn't helping your case in the slightest. ] 01:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::There is nothing sarcastic in my latest statements, I've contributed to this project as an anon for years and years (as timed allowed and on various topics), on course of my traveling I've visited darkest corners of the community, so to say. I've started recent discussion on WTC 7 as an IP and I was quite happy to do so. The very fact that I was forced into opening account is as annoying as registrations can be… I'm a busy person, which spends most of his working hours in front of (various) computers. My decision to participate in 9/11 discussion is not extraordinary in any way; your assumption that I'm a single purpose editor is unfounded by all means. Please, try to approach this issue with good faith, I'd say it's the least an admin member can do. After all, this whole issue is crispy clear, and every veteran administrator is experiencing déjà vu as we type. I've showed open contempt for the actions of a particular editor who made gargantuan changes to the heavily disputed article without receiving a single warning, I don't find such double standards acceptable, and I don't think that wider community finds it acceptable. One should not take childish explanations as arguments, one should not be redirected to puny articles which are in far worse state than parent article is, one should not be banned for striving to bring NPOV to unbelievably biased articles. You may take a look at that initial discussion about and explain to anyone who is watching this page, where have I committed any misconduct? Before I was forced into one, that is. I'm not pleased with this entropy, I'm not pleased with the conduct of the (some) fellow editors, and I'm definitely not pleased with this disgraceful ban which is forced upon me at the same time in which we are witnessing utter disregard to our policies by single minded editors who impose themselves upon one particular article. ] (]) 01:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| It should be noted that several long time users don't see this as a clear legal threat. -- ] 04:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :But still pretty silly. -- ] 04:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Eh, it could have been sillier… well, my thanks to all of the good folks who shared their opinions there. ] (]) 19:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == mail? == | |||
| Hi, if you provide an e-mail address under preferences, I would like to contact you. I prefer to not comment here, since I am topicbanned. — <small>] ♫☺♥♪ ]</small> 19:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ArbCom sanctions on 9/11-related pages == | |||
| As you are an editor involved in conflict on pages related to the September 11th attacks, please review ]. Due to serious and ongoing problems on 9/11-related articles, editors who repeatedly fail to adhere to Misplaced Pages's behavioral standards on these pages may be subject to editing restrictions up to and including a topic ban or block. Please be aware that this set of articles is a long-standing problem area, and that the tolerance for misbhevaior on these articles is low. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 22:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Arbitration Warning == | |||
| Regarding : | |||
| {{Warning| You have recently edited ] in a manner that transgresses the ] reached. Please do not add disruptive information or comments related to the promotion of conspiracy theories to the September 11, 2001 attacks article or its talk page. These issues have all been raised in the past and reviewed by administrators. Continuation of this behavior will result in the imposition of ] that include being banned from editing this article or being blocked entirely for a short period of time. Please refrain from repeating these actions again. Thank you. }} | |||
| ] (]) 00:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Remedy pursuant to arbitration decision== | |||
| In light of your persistent combativeness demonstrated at ], you are prohibited from making edits anywhere in the encyclopedia that relate in any way to the September 11, 2001 attacks against the United States, broadly construed, until May 30, 2008. After that time you are free to resume contributing to those articles but in a collaborative and collegial manner. This remedy has been entered in the log of block, bans, and restrictions for the relevant arbcom case. ] (]) 01:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == May 2008 == | |||
| ] Please ] in your dealings with other editors{{#if:Talk:September 11, 2001 attacks|, which you did not on ]}}. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Misplaced Pages. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-agf3 --> ''You're banned from 9/11 articles. Please stop posting there; it'd be a shame to have to block you entirely from Misplaced Pages. Thanks. '' ] (]) 01:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :You should look in the mirror while stating that one. Can you do so, please? Many thanks! ] (]) 01:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Refereeing== | |||
| Please do not engage in goading of Tachyonbursts during the time that he is on a topic ban. Indeed, it should go without saying that one should not engage in goading of ''any'' editor at ''any'' time. ] (]) 01:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Then I'll have to insist that this "topic ban" be more than ]. -- ] (]) | |||
| Tachyonbursts, keep in mind that your restriction remains in place until it is overturned on appeal. You violated it here. At the next violation the editing restriction will be enforced by a block. ] (]) 01:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ] This is the '''last warning''' you will receive for your disruptive edits. <br> The next time you violate Misplaced Pages's ] by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article{{#if:Talk:September 11, 2001 attacks|, as you did to ]}}, you '''will''' be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-npov4 --> ''You've been banned from 9/11 sites. Stop posting in them. '' ] (]) 00:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I need this sort of confirmation and I don't care, so just do what ever to hex you feel you must. ] (]) 00:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Blocked == | |||
| Well, you did ask, so .... | |||
| <div class="user-block"> ] You have been '''blocked indefinitely''' from editing in accordance with ] for {{#if:|'''{{{reason}}}'''|repeated ]}}. If you believe this block is unjustified you may ] by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --><nowiki>{{</nowiki>unblock|''your reason here''<nowiki>}}</nowiki><!-- Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --> below. {{#if:<b>]</b> 00:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)|<b>]</b> 00:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)|}}</div><!-- Template:uw-block3 -->] | |||
| Though obviously, as you have not actually been community banned, you may feel free to contact me (or any other admin - just point them to this diff) if you wish to be unblocked at any point. Best, <b>]</b> 00:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == If you would be so kind == | |||
| It's fine, really, but if I may, Black Kite, could you carry that plea as it was made to be, and therefore leave that last edit to be? The edit was clear. It said> | |||
| ''This article is no good, no good at all. I'd like to be banned from Misplaced Pages indefinitely because of my decision to state it as it is and bring NPOV to the issue.'' | |||
| To explain, I'd like that sentence noticed there, because, locked as we all are, there will be no other. I've heard they grant the last wishes, regardless of the end. So if you'd be so kind. I'd appreciate it deeply and sincerely, it was my last take, so to say, it shouldn’t be such hard thing to carry. Then again, if you're unable to fulfill such request, I'll understand. No second thoughts. Thanks. ] (]) 01:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| In other words you've endorsed my request for a block, could you endorse it as it was made. I'd appreciate an reply, and I'll understand it either way, so to say. Thanks. ] (]) 01:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == you've been blocked == | |||
| Eh, one can not say one did not try. Yes? Here is a popular reference for that VegituaU '''fellow and his kin'''. Folks, you were warned and you are now evaluated. To answer your first and foremost question via those popular references, the answer is… | |||
| You may blast it all to hell, but as far our ArbCom is concerned, you've failed miserably, (worst than last time that is). Eh, I'd say it’s a bummer for all the citizens. Then again, one can not say one did not try. Best wishes. ] (]) 01:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == I am disapointed == | |||
| Rather than do what I, and many other editors had asked, and simply cite your arguments, you have chosen the coward's way out. Simply proclaiming the system is flawed and throwing a temper tantrum does not help your cause in any way. All you have done is thrown any kindness we showed you back in our faces. Lord knows I tried to help you, as others did as well, and this is the thanks we get. Well, I guess the project will be better without you. I am deeply disapointed. I only hope other editors don't follow in your foolish footsteps. --] (]) 02:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Yeah, really. Now watch as the project moves on without you—hopefully to a higher status, but forward nonetheless. Though I wonder if you'll just move onto a new account to harass us…not that I'm accusing you of anything, mind you. -- ] (]) 02:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yeah, yeah, yeah… You were repeatedly warned. You showed your will. So quit whining and enjoy your freedoms, if any. ] (]) 23:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::] Will do. -- ] (]) 23:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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