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== Dejeuner ... ==

... was ruined because I had to run home to fetch Duchene and Contrucci. I cannot help you with the caption. The fort of St Jean was rebuilt following Louis XIV's imposition of order on the City of Marseille. Glad to see you've found a new hobby. (Duchene and Contrucci cost me 32 € and is very heavy.) ] (]) 12:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
: LOL! It wasn't that urgent, I didn't mean to take you away from your croissant. :) But thanks for the quick work! The ] article also desperately needs sources, if you'd like to add something there.

: As for the image, what struck me is that it said it was "built on the Knights Hospitaller". Modesty aside, I guess I'd have to list myself as one of the current Medievalists on Misplaced Pages, which is why my interest was piqued. I was one of the key editors in bringing ] to FA status, and I have some passing acquaintance with the other military orders, though most of my attention at the moment is on the ] towards the end of the Crusades. Anyway, that caption struck me as being a bit off. My ''guess'' is that it's supposed to say "the ruins of the fort of the Knights Hospitaller", but since I'm not familiar with the sources, I didn't want to make any radical changes. Hopefully someone else will figure it out within the next few days; if not, we should probably rework the caption to something easier to understand. Do you think this might have come from a tourist brochure? I guess we could dig through the history to find out who added the information, and see if they're still around! --]]] 12:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

::At some later date I can go and check in situ. I doubt it came from a tourist brochure: it was quite a curious thing to add. However, like the Abbey of St Victor, it would not surprise me if the committee for the reconstruction of Marseille, set up by Louis XIV, had ordered the demolition of an older building, leaving only the foundations for the new fort. My history book refers to "la commanderie des Hospitaliers de Saint-Jean" buried in the foundations (Page 333, Duchene & Contrucci), so that seems completely to confirm the caption. After all, the committee destroyed the town walls and ramparts along the ''rue d'Aix''. I haven't checked the French WP page on Fort St Jean, but there might also be something useful there. I have located two sources for the Great Plague of Marseille (one from JSTOR in English), both of which could be used to expand the article. There are also more images on the French WP site than the one I've added. In ] the ] is said to date from the end of the great plague (I think), a religious ceremony in early September to mark the deliverance of Aix. It takes place metres from where I live, in the place St Jean de Malte. ] (]) 17:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Here is a which contains the info in the caption. ] (]) 17:42, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: Thanks for the research! So looks like "command post" is the proper translation. Care to do the honors? :) --]]] 17:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

== Proposed naming convention, way forward? ==

Hi Elonka, thanks for guiding the Slovaks and Hungarians out of the trenches! Now that there has been quite some constructive discussion about the proposed naming convention for Slovak places, what would be the way forward? Is it a good idea to create a separate naming convention, and vote about the modifications? Or should we make it a sub-rule of WP:NCGN (and vote there)? ] <sup>]</sup> 09:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

== Block ==

Yeah, I hesitated about the block, but while I was hesitating, the large edits were coming fast and furious, I couldn't be sure if they were things easily undone or not. Plus the talk page had a note at the top saying that any addition would be deleted unread - what does one do to get an editor's attention then? ] (]) 12:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

::I used up an irreplaceable chunk of my life dealing with ]'s disruptive wikignoming, so I have very little patience for that anymore. Your attitude is commendable though. ] (]) 12:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

::Would I do it the same way again? I think so. I did look at the history of her talk page, and saw the pattern of deletion of remarks posted, so the "delete unread" claim seemed plausible, and while I was doing all this, several more edits came in. My usual experience with fast-and-furious editors has been that they ignore talk page notes anyway, so between that and the advance notice that a polite warning was going to be ignored, a short block seems like the appropriate clue-by-four. ] (]) 22:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

== controversial edit? ==

Hi, I am wondering what was controversial about my at ]? I didn't remove any info, added new and improved the layout. The only controversial part was that misinterpreted my edit. At least he had the decency to remove it.--] (]) 13:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

:At ] you modified the lead, but left a version you would never apply for a Slovak place with Hungarian majority. If you say everything was all right with your edit, I ask you if I can modify the lead at Slovak cities/villages (with Hungarian majority) to your version.
:It is simply tiresome dealing with your edits all the time, that's why I removed my comment. ] (]) 13:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

::You are lying again. See the original version of the article. Also, do not assume what I would or wouldn't do.--] (]) 10:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

Dear Elnoka--- sorry to keep troubling you. the article I completed on 'sophia bekele' has this message below every time I open it. Could you pls advise on what it is and why it is there? also , why would the warning state that article would be deleted if it is not edited? Thanks so mcuh!!

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Dear Elnoka, thanks for your help so far. I have finished the article and posted it on the main page. Please advise on how to delete the my user page, so that the following does not appear in search enginees. Thanks you

User:Lashford/Sophia Bekele - Misplaced Pages, the 💕Sophia Bekele (born and raised in the city of Addis Ababa, Ethiopia) is a business and corporate executive, consultant published writer and philanthropist. ...
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] (]) 14:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Dear Elonka. Please note that this page is not finished being edited. Like you advised before, I was hoping to work in the user area before moving it for publishing. It seem now that it is appearing in the searches. Can you please correct? or advise how I can do it? Thank you.

"User:Lashford/Sophia Bekele - Misplaced Pages, the 💕Sophia Bekele (born and raised in the city of Addis Ababa, Ethiopia) is a business and corporate executive, consultant published writer and philanthropist. ...

Thank you
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== Ms Crisp ==

I am relieved that you are looking into the matter of ''Mathsci v. Michellecrisp''. I am another victim of Ms Crisp’s harassment and stalking, but unlike Mr Mathsci I confess that in the face of her relentless stalking I have simply given up and largely desisted from further Misplaced Pages editing. I do hope that you will indeed thoroughly investigate Ms Crisp’s aggressive behaviour and possibly urge her to take a more positive, courteous and encouraging attitude. ] (]) {{unsigned|Masalai|23:19, April 26, 2008}}

Indeed I was provoked to intemperate comment in explanation of edits. Her rudeness has that effect. As I say, I have largely abandoned the project since every single contribution I have made, she has followed: it is more than a little creepy, to be frank. ] (]) 07:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

: whilst I encounter incivility sometimes on Misplaced Pages, simply blaming me for persistent personal attacks (which resulted in your blocking) is really ], in the end you take responsibility for your actions/comments on Misplaced Pages like sensible adults including how you react to others. I welcome any investigation of my edits. "Every single contribution" is a gross exaggeration. As for following edits, one thing I had to correct (which admin LaraLove also supported) was Masalai's constantly incorrectly labelling References sections as Notes in direct contravention of http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:LAYOUT#Standard_appendices_and_descriptions This persisted despite warnings to the contrary. ] (]) 14:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:: While I am not condoning the things that {{user|Masalai}} said (they were clear violations of ]), I still have to point out that the comments were not made in a vacuum. I have found no evidence that Masalai was actively pursuing {{user|Michellecrisp}}. Most of his comments seem to have been reactions to notes that were placed on his talkpage, and then began a vicious cycle, as Michellecrisp placed a message, Masalai removed it with a snarky comment, Michellecrisp warned him again, he removed that with another snarky comment, and so forth. Then Michellecrisp went to a bunch of articles that Masalai had been editing, and either changed or criticizing the referencing. Though her comments might have been completely innocuous in some other context, in the highly-charged atmosphere at the time, any edit by Michellecrisp was seen as an attack, especially when she was suddenly popping up at several other articles on his watchlist. Masalai reacted defensively (and again, unfortunately, with incivility). At which point Michellecrisp would place another warning, and 'round the cycle would go again.

:: Though these activities occurred a couple months ago, it appears that both editors are still carrying a grudge, and neither is willing to "let it go". Masalai feels that Michellecrisp was stalking him, and regards her actions as rude and aggressive; Michellecrisp feels that Masalai is uncivil, and that he's the one that is rude and aggressive.

:: But as regards their ''current'' editing practices, except for their conflict with each other, both are otherwise pretty good editors. Does that pretty much sum it up? --]]] 14:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Elonka, thanks for your comments, it is appreciated. as you know I've done many many edits since Feb so this issue was over for me (especially as the attacks ceased) until it popped up just then. So I'm prepared to put it to rest, especially since you've now investigated it. hope Masalai will do the same. ] (]) 14:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

: As you can see, Ms Crisp appears to follow me everywhere I go, even after many weeks of my forbearing to edit at all. Does she want me to desist utterly from contributing to the Misplaced Pages project? Possibly you could investigate Ms Crisp's stalking behaviour. It is beyond creepy and surely cannot be healthy. ] (]) 09:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

:: Masalai, I've looked through your contribs over the last month, and I'm honestly not seeing any place where you and Michellecrisp have intersected at all. Am I missing something? If so, please give me a link. If not, my recommendation is to just go back to editing at this point. If there ''are'' disputes somewhere, let me or some other admin know, and we can deal with those as they come up. But it's really looking to me like the problem is over at this point. If I've missed something though, definitely tell me. --]]] 09:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

:::Dear Elonka, of ''course'' there is no interaction between myself and Ms Crisp, infelicitous or otherwise, in the past month. As I say, Ms Crisp has accomplished her goal as to me (as to how any others?) of ridding the Misplaced Pages project of contributors like myself. I have barely edited at all since she began weirdly stalking and harrassing me personally: one assumes that Ms Crisp's negative agenda must be to discourage contribution to Misplaced Pages altogether. But what is her positive agenda, if any? Ms Crisp appears not to have made any original contributions at all beyond one or two articles of hers that were soon deleted as being insignificant ("Pubs of Newtown" appears to have been one of her contributions, and it was soon thrust out.)

::: Do you think there is any favourable comment to at all to be made as to Ms Crisp's interventions among Misplaced Pages contributors, as to their contributions and on their talk pages, which it seems to me thus far are wholly malign? ] (]) 10:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: Masalai, I have to admit confusion here, as to what exactly you want? What would ''you'' like to see happen, for you to feel comfortable about editing again? --]]] 10:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, it appears that Ms Crisp has gone on to other projects than stalking me -- I even note in one or two articles I have contributed to that she has recently even made positive contributions instead of merely idly criticising -- so perhaps the combination of my taking a long rest while bringing the matter to your attention has had a salutary effect. I confess that had Ms Crisp been minimally courteous in the first instance I would not have taken umbrage at her interventions, which may well have been ultimately constructive: I am annoyed at gratuitous rudeness. Thank you for your assistance, however passive: it appears to have been helpful. ] (]) 13:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::: You are most welcome, and if there's anything else I can do, or if you notice anything else which is interfering with your ability to edit in a productive manner, from any source, please do not hesitate to get in touch. :) --]]] 13:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

== Angel nom ==

You're going straight to heaven, if I have any say in the matter. I'll cancel my WP hiatus now. <grin> Thanks for being the voice of common sense. --<span style="font-family:Harlow Solid Italic; font-size:14px;">]</span> 23:16, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
: Thanks, and I do hope you will consider "redecorating" your user page. Let me know when you're done, I'd love to take a look! :) --]]] 13:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

== Priory of Sion ==

In light of my previous request, I just wanted to let you know that ] has just been listed as a good article. :) --] (]) 20:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

== Your warning ==

If you post once more on Johnbods page, I'll take it to AN/I. Really, what do you hope to achieve here. Nice deflexion, bty. ] (]) 02:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
: Be my guest. You may however wish to review this AN thread first though. --]]] 02:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
::Has absolutely ''nothing'' to do with this conversation. Remember what I said about context, intention, edit history or reputation, and bots? Judgement and research please. This is going on for days, and still you are rigidly following the letter of the law to is barest most desperate reaches. The edit was about image positions. ] (]) 02:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
::: And the edit ''summary'' was grossly uncivil. That's the core issue here, that the summary was inappropriate. I am frankly surprised that you are continuing to defend it. --]]] 02:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

:Yes you said. A number of times. But note ''A number of times''. Also you just switched argument. Do you hunt down and demand an personall apology from all established editors who make a flippant remark to an ip. That would seem a wasteful way to spend life, and a detriment to the project. ] (]) 02:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not defending it, I saying you are blowing it out of all portion. He did explain, end of story. ] (]) 02:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
::: Ceoil, ''you'' are the one who jumped in, 5 days after the original incident, to stir it up again, and further escalate things by accusing me of harassment, on two pages now. And now you're also threatening an ANI thread? Talk about "out of all proportion", see ]. To answer your original question though, yes, while this project of calming the ethnic dispute is in-process, I will absolutely continue to contact any editor who jumps into the middle of it with an uncivil comment or attack. It is now my recommendation that you drop this, instead of continuing to escalate this even further. --]]] 02:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== Reply ==

It would be great, thanks. ] (]) 04:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

New thread on the experiment page, please, have a say. --] (]) 17:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== Mediation Lecture ==

The next ] will be by ] about how to mediate disputes. Might be interesting!

--] (]) 18:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

I just want to ask a question, i saw that you semi-protected the user page of Hobartimus because of vandal edits but when i look at the page history i can only see one vandal edit. Why is it that we cant see the rest? Is it because when a user gets blocked, their contributions dont show up? Can you please help me out, i was just curious thats all. I thought it was only Oversights who can hide certain edits in certain circumstances. Thanks ''''']''''' <sup>(])</sup> 12:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
: It does thanks, i always wanted to know about the deleted edits. You puts my mind at rest:) ''''']''''' <sup>(])</sup> 14:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Missed that comment ==

<blockquote>You are lying again. See the original version of the article. Also, do not assume what I would or wouldn't do.--] (]) 10:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)</blockquote>

Just noticed this comment. Svetovid, please don't accuse me a day after my comment with anything, especially not on someone else's talk page. What I said is true: you modified the lead at ], but left there a version you would never accept at Slovak villages/cities (see for example , where you deleted the Hungarian name from the lead even though there is not even a separate names section).<br>
Also administrator Thatcher referred to , but you to . These edits were not vandalism.<br>
Elonka, may we include archived threads that are not yet included at ]? ] (]) 12:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
: Absolutely, yes, feel free to expand it with any threads that I haven't spotted yet. :) --]]] 14:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::Before I get attacked again, I , this is a citation of the linked article almost word by word. I am not drawing any parallels etc. and the article comes from a ]. ] (]) 16:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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*"The story details the moment of time that a teenaged girl crosses over into womanhood both physically and emotionally," Quite an awkward sentence in need of a rewrite. "Details" is ungainly here. "Moment of time"? "Teenaged"?
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*"with no major stars (at the time)" -> something like "featuring then-unknown actors" <small>]</small>] 15:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


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Sorry! The user was blocked. ] <small>(])</small> 16:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

:The user repeatedly vandalized ] so I looked for an admin on a recent change page and found you. Btw, if it's appropriate please block ]. This seems to be a vandal account. Thank you. ] <small>(])</small> 15:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

::Please block ] too. thank you. ] <small>(])</small> 15:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Race and Intelligence archiving cutoff ==

Hello Elonka. I would like to respectfully suggest that the automated archive cutoff date be put back to a more standard value (say like 14 days), rather than you keeping adjusting it down. While I'll be the first to admit the talk page is impressive by its size, I think that too short a cutoff may be detrimental to continuity, and as we keep saying, Misplaced Pages isn't paper. However, I'll understand if you wish to submit the question first to the other editors as well. I'll abie by whatever consensus is arrived at regarding this question (which I hope will make it a potentially very easy consensus!). Thanks,] (]) 13:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
: Thank you for your concerns. It's definitely a busy discussion! I've been keeping a close eye on it, as you can tell: {{article|Race and intelligence}}. When I first spotted the problem, the page was at over 450K! Per ], some people's browsers start running into technical issues at anything over 32K. My goal is to try and get the page to stabilize at no more than 100K or so, but currently the page is growing faster than it is being archived, which is why I tweaked the cutoff again.

: As I look through the threads on the page, it looks like a lot of them will get archived with the next cycle. If that gets things back to a manageable level, I'll definitely adjust the bot back up to a longer cutoff. As for continuity, any thread that you think that's been archived, that still needs further discussion, you can definitely copy a relevant portion of it back to the talkpage. Or even better, start a new thread, which links to the prior portion in archive, and perhaps summarizes previous discussions.

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== CIR issue with editor you warned once for lack of sources ==
Dear Elonka, I made two edits today at ] and ]. I explained them at the respective talk pages and on your experimental page. But if you wish to review my edits, here they are. If you think something in them is not all right, please feel free to revert them and leave me a note on my user talk page. I hope I did not break any rule by making these edits. Cheers. ] (]) 02:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:Also if possible, please, could you have a look at whole debate in ] yesterday and today? --] (]) 14:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


See https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Proudbharati huge number of terrible changes, done in haste. ] ] 11:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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Sorry to hear the sad news. ] (]) 04:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


:Ignore, I CIR blocked. ] ] 12:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
==Back in the future==
Dear Elonka, after you are back, you should have a look at ]. It seems someone is using ANI in the old good way again while you are away. I hope we will all return to your experimental page and discuss the remaining substantial issues there instead of quote mining with the hope that the "other side" would get blocked by a random administrator. I am sorry to say that I consider it also a bit sneaky to file a report at ANI without saying a word at ] and without mentioning your experimental page page in the ANI thread. I am also uneasy about using diffs to the edits already discussed at your experimental page (and even dealt with by your own administrative action) as "evidence" at ANI. I am really sorry to disturb you with all this in your present situation. It is just something that you may be interested in, when you are back. All the best. ] (]) 05:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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CIR issue with editor you warned once for lack of sources

See https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Proudbharati huge number of terrible changes, done in haste. Doug Weller talk 11:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Ignore, I CIR blocked. Doug Weller talk 12:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)