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|Articles on a work of fiction or fictional element(s) should demonstrate real-world ] from ]. Non-notable elements should preferably be concisely covered within articles on the main work or on notable elements. Coverage of fictional elements should focus on the demonstrated notability for the topic, with an appropriate ] of ]}}
{{Nutshell|Fictional elements are expected to follow the same ] guidelines as any other topic.}}
:''For information about writing articles on fiction, refer to ].''
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There is no special guideline for the '''notability of fictional elements''' (such as characters and episodes) on Misplaced Pages. See other relevant ] in order to determine which fiction-related articles are appropriate for inclusion on Misplaced Pages. In particular, editors should review:
'''Misplaced Pages:Notability (fiction)''' primarily covers the ] of characters, items, places, and other elements (including individual episodes of serialized works such as television or comic book series) within a work of fiction. Some guidance is given for ] themselves. For more specific notability guidelines on works of fiction presented in specific forms of media, see the following guidelines:
* The ]
*] for books
* The policy on ]
*] for films
* The manual of style for ]
*] for web-based content
*] for toys and games (including both role-playing games and video games)


For starters, the main work must be notable to begin with. If the work itself is not notable, it may be pointless to discuss the notability of its characters or episodes.
==Defining notability for fiction==
This guideline is based on three excerpts:


==History and rationale==
From ]:
Several attempts have been made to establish specialized guidelines to cover the notability of fictional elements within Misplaced Pages. Until there is a successful proposal to treat fiction in a specialized way, consult other policies and guidelines for guidance on a wide range of topics, including fiction. Existing policies and guidelines have wide acceptance among editors and describe standards that all users should normally follow.
<blockquote>Misplaced Pages articles on published works (such as fictional stories) should contain real-world context and sourced analysis, offering detail on a work's development and historical significance, not solely a detailed summary of that work's plot. This applies to both stand-alone works and series. A concise plot summary is appropriate as part of the larger coverage of a fictional work.</blockquote>


==Improving articles==
From ]:
Information that may help provide the real-world discussion necessary for an encyclopedia article about a fictional topic includes reception, analysis, significance, development, legacy and influence, and relationships with or comparisons to other media. Dedicated sections are good, though sometimes in less developed articles, such information is contained in the lead but not the body.
<blockquote>A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in ] that are ] of the subject.</blockquote>


Bear in mind that content in such information should be referenced to ], independent sources.
From ]:
<blockquote>Whatever you do, endeavour to preserve information. Instead of deleting: try to rephrase;
correct the inaccuracy while keeping the content; move text within an article or to another article (existing or new); add more of what you think is important to make an article more balanced; or request a citation by adding the {{tl|fact}} tag. Exceptions include: duplication or redundancy; irrelevancy; ]; ]; or ] (attempt to correct the misinformation or discuss the problems first before deletion).</blockquote>


If such sections do not exist, before nominating the article for possible deletion, please adhere to ] and check whether sources to improve the article exists. A possible solution in the spirit of ] can also take the form of ] the article to a list of similar entities or the article about the related, notable work this fictional element appears in.
For articles on fiction, '']'' may cover such things as design, development, reception and cultural impact. This is ''real-world coverage'' because it describes the real-world aspects of the work. ''Fictional coverage'' describes the work's fictional elements, such as the setting, characters, and story.


==Relevant guidelines and policies==
Based on this reasoning and the above excerpts, fictional concepts can be presumed '''notable''' if they have ''received significant real-world coverage in ] sources that are independent of the subject''. However, notability for individual topics on fiction should be judged on a case-by-case basis while following Misplaced Pages's core policies of ], ] and ].
===Notability guidelines===
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The ] is appropriate and sufficient for demonstrating the notability of fictional elements. Specifically, fictional elements are presumed to be notable if there is significant coverage in independent secondary sources about the fictional element; when a fictional element is presumed notable, a separate article to cover that element is usually acceptable.


There are specialized notability guidelines for works of fiction which can be found in the following guidelines:
==Demonstrating notability==
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===Works of fiction===
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Articles on a work of fiction (a book, movie, television series, video game, or other medium) should demonstrate notability by citing critical reception, viewings or sales figures, development and other information from reliable sources. Such sources can include creators' commentary and interviews regarding the work or topic, bearing in mind the restrictions if the work is ]. Although data such as cast and crew members, publication or airing dates and length of work can be taken from reliable sources, such information may ''not'' demonstrate notability.


===What Misplaced Pages is not===
Certain media have additional notability guidelines: ] for books and printed material, ] for films, and ] for toys, traditional games, and video games. A work of fiction is presumed to be notable if it meets the general notability guideline, the guidelines presented here, or the guidelines specific to its medium.
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Articles on fiction are expected to follow existing content policies and guidelines, particularly ]. Articles on fiction elements are expected to cover more about "real-world" aspects of the element, such as its development and reception, than "in-universe" details.


===Elements of fiction=== ===Manual of style===
{{main|Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)}}
Elements of a work of fiction, including individual stories, episodes, characters, settings, and other topics, are presumed to be notable if there is significant coverage of the element(s) in reliable secondary sources. For fictional elements, this will typically include the real-world context and analysis of the elements, and can include influence and other aspects of its development, critical reception of the elements, and popularity of the element through readership/viewership ratings and marketing. Notability of an element may also be shown through secondary-source analysis of the main work of fiction, citing the importance of the element to the work. Reputable academic studies of individual elements may also demonstrate notability.
Editors interested in writing articles on fictional elements are encouraged to review ] and ] to understand the general approach and content of these articles.


==Lists of fictional elements==
Data such as actors, cast and crew, publication and airing dates, appearances in a larger body of works, and production codes, while useful and sometimes necessary data for articles on fictional elements, are ''not'' sufficient for notability as these are trivial data that can be learned for any other work in the same medium by reviewing the original work or through sites and resources such as ] or ]. Evidence of notability should explain what is special about the topic, such as awards, rankings, sales figures or studies and analyses specifically relating to the element in question.<ref>An example of a plaudit given for fictional elements that speaks directly to notability is ], selected by a respected body on the basis of clear criteria; fan polls will not generally indicate notability, although coverage of the poll result in media or academic sources may do so.</ref><ref>It is not generally a sufficient indicator of notability for an award to be given for a fictional topic, or for a fictional work to have high figures according to primary sources; however, these are often discussed in secondary coverage which, if significant, may be used to establish the notability of the fictional topic in question. In some cases, however, a plaudit is of sufficient stature to represent sufficient coverage in itself; it is rare that such will have been given without coverage in other secondary sources, and exceptional evidence will be required to justify any element as notable on the basis of an award alone. </ref> Editors may request evidence of the notability of any article, including those on fictional elements, either through the addition of a {{tl|notability}} template or through listing for deletion at ], where ] will determine any notability. Notability, in accordance with this guidance, is best demonstrated through citations to reliable secondary sources.
Individually non-notable elements of a fictional work (such as characters and episodes) ''may'' be grouped into an appropriate list article. Advice for the appropriateness of these list articles can be found at ] and at ].


==Consult Wikiprojects==
Notability may be shown for an individual element<ref>For example ], ], ], ] and '']''</ref> or for a certain grouping of elements, commonly characters or episodes.<ref>For example ] or ]</ref> When notability can be shown, the element or grouping of elements merits a separate article. This article should be summarized in the parent article, and {{tl|main}} or {{tl|seealso}} templates should be used to direct users to where they may find more information.<ref>For example, an overview of ] is provided by the "Cast" section of ], while a brief summary of ] is included in ] to compare with other listed characters</ref> Further details can be found in the ] section of ].
Editors should also review guidelines and recommendations made by WikiProjects that deal primarily with works of fiction. These include but not limited to:
* ]
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A ] was created in 2009 but it was retired in 2010.
However, even where an element or group of elements is notable, it may be more appropriate to include the information in an article on the work itself if:
*The resulting article would be very short, with little or no likelihood of expansion.
*The resulting article would have, by necessity, excessive ].


==Previous proposals==
===Fictional elements as part of a larger topic===
* ], the original attempted rewrite from c. 2007-2009
If consensus on a fictional element is that it is of unproven notability, editors should seek to retain the information where it can improve the encyclopedia. Such coverage may be placed as part of the main article on the work of fiction, or if better suited, an article on another, notable fictional element. If this makes the main article too long, per ], then there are several steps to consider:
* ], a previous failed proposal from 2007
* Merge coverage of less-notable elements to into a ] as ].
* ], a previous proposal abandoned in 2008
* Trim away material to reduce the size of the article. The approach to covering non-notable fictional elements is more fully described in ], but in general, non-notable fictional elements should only be given sufficient information for the reader to understand its relationship with the entire work.
* ], a previous failed proposal, in 2011 recategorized as an essay
* Transwiki excess material to a GFDL-compatible wiki. It is still appropriate to leave some mention of non-notable elements within the Misplaced Pages article, while linking to the other wiki for more details.
* Remove material that may be of trivial or of only highly detailed interest to the general reader. Characters that appear only once in a work and have minimal influence on the work need not be listed, though again, they can be covered in a off-site wiki and linked to.

Where none of the above steps can resolve the length problem without damaging encyclopedic coverage of the work, groupings of individually non-notable elements can merit their own supporting articles; this should be considered only for highly notable works,<ref name="highly">Highly notable works are taken as those that substantially exceed the minimum standards for notability, having large coverage in secondary sources. This would typically include those that have been the subject of extensive academic analysis.</ref> and the information within the supporting articles should not exceed the necessary ] for the main article's topic. Under current practice, these supporting articles are generally one of the following two types of list:
* Lists of characters in a highly-notable work or series of works.
* Lists of episodes or serial elements in a serial work.
If the resulting list would be too large without exceeding the necessary depth of coverage, elements may be grouped into smaller lists. To avoid undue weight on a subtopic, the smaller lists should correspond to either highly notable<ref name="highly"/> fictional subtopics or divisions of the work, or a real-world division.<ref>Regardless of how the split is broken up, the list article title should clearly indicate the work of fiction as part of the title; 'List of Jedi characters' would not be an appropriate title, but 'List of Jedi characters from Star Wars' would be.</ref> Lists of elements corresponding to a less-notable topic could still appear as sections in an article on that topic. For divisions by fictional characteristics, consider the use of categories to categorise redirects to individual list elements.

Subject-specific guidelines may limit these cases, or give other cases when such articles are considered appropriate. Articles that fail to meet these requirements can have their inclusion challenged through a deletion debate and are often deleted through editorial consensus. Articles that fail to meet the guidelines presented in ] can also be challenged and deleted or improved to meet our style.

==Depth of coverage==
Articles on fiction should be structured around evaluations and critiques of the work or topic, with an appropriate ] of real-world and plot information, as outlined at ]. The size of a plot summary is often determined by building consensus for each article on a case by case basis. Editors should compare approaches taken on ] and ] about fiction for examples of length and tone.

'''Depth of coverage within an article should be guided by the amount of real-world information which can be sourced.''' A single movie, book, video game, or other work of fiction has most likely not generated substantial<ref>This guideline does not offer ] for how much coverage qualifies as "substantial". We cannot rule on every instance, and there is a vast difference between the coverage the ] books have received and the coverage '']'' has received, with many falling into a grey area left to editorial consensus. Where disputes cannot be resolved, please list them at various venues to encourage wider participation and the building of consensus. ] is one such venue.</ref> coverage in sources which Misplaced Pages can summarize. Therefore, the article will be able to summarize those sources in one article. On the other hand, a series of books, television shows, or video games could contain elements which are better covered in a separate article or articles, helping to provide suitable background and supplementary information for each work within the series. See ] above for more details.

At times, better depth of coverage may be accomplished by combining notable and non-notable elements into a single topic, such as a character cast or a single season of a television show, instead of individual elements. WikiProjects that deal with fiction have guidelines describing what depth of coverage should be provided for plot information relative to the length of the original work. The complexity of the work should also be taken into a consideration; uses of certain creative elements (such as ] or ]s) may require more detail to clearly explain the concepts in an encyclopedic manner.

If there is an imbalance of fictional information in an article, consider trimming the text or ] to an appropriate GFDL-compatible Wiki.

==Dealing with non-notable fictional topics==
Articles on fictional topics that lack demonstrated notability should be improved either by adding demonstrated notability, or by other editing actions such as trimming, merging, or moving content to another Wiki. Nevertheless, the lack of demonstrated notability is ''not'' one of the ], and ] improvements are expected as part of the ]. Editors should review specific guidelines or approaches outlined in the appropriate ], such as ] or ]. Other concerns about dealing with fictional notability can be raised at the ].

First and foremost, if you can provide reliably sourced, verifiable information on real-world facts that establish the notability of the topic, be ] and include it in the article. Here are additional suggestions to improve articles that lack demonstration of notability:

* If you believe the article will never have a chance of demonstrating notability or cannot be merged elsewhere, '''and''' that its deletion is unlikely to be contested, place the article up for ]. A character in a TV show that only appeared on-screen for a few seconds and is never referred to otherwise is probably non-notable; however, by using the proposed deletion process, someone may be able to provide the required evidence of notability. If you are unsure if this is the correct step, then do '''not''' perform this step.
* Inform the editors of the article on the article's talk page of your concern about the lack of notability. This can also be done by tagging the article with the {{tl|notability}} tag on the article page, though it is recommended to discuss your concerns with the editors as well in this case. If many such articles within the same fictional universe exist in a similar state, attempt to find a project or task force page for that fictional work and let the editors there know your concerns.
* If the article can be grouped with an existing article or other articles on the same type of fictional elements, then it may be appropriate to discuss a potential ]. This may require that information be trimmed from the article. If articles are merged, leave ] in their place to the appropriate page, and link the old article or articles in your edit summary to comply with the GFDL. Consider using ] to help track such redirects. You can boldly merge articles, but consensus will often be required before major changes are accepted by the community.
* If an existing GFDL-compatible wiki for the fictional topic exists, suggest transwiki'ing the information. Again, articles that are moved should be replaced with redirection pages.
* If the above options have been considered and determined to not be possible or if you feel that any action taken has not remedied the situation, it may be appropriate to nominate the ] where the merits of the article can be debated. However, this should be considered carefully for an article that otherwise does not violate any further Misplaced Pages policies or guidelines such as those regarding ] or ].

Editors are cautioned against performing the above actions on numerous articles ''en masse''; an ] stated that editors are '''''"urged to work collaboratively and constructively with the broader community and the editors committed to working on the articles"'''''.

==Relocating non-notable fictional material==
], Misplaced Pages's sibling project, contains instructional and educational texts. These include annotated works of fiction (on the ]) for classroom or private study use. ], similarly, holds original public domain and GFDL source texts. See ]. One possible action to consider is to make use of all of the Wikimedia projects combined: to have an encyclopedia article about the work of fiction on Misplaced Pages giving a brief outline, a chapter-by-chapter annotation on Wikibooks, the full source text on Wikisource (if the work is in the public domain), and ] joining them all together into a whole. However, Wikibooks , so it is not an appropriate place to transwiki large quantities of fictional material.

Fictional material unsuited or too detailed for Misplaced Pages can be ] to a appropriate GFDL-compatible wiki, such as or the ; editors should check with related Wikiprojects to determine if a specific wiki has been selected for transwiking materials. Any transwikied material should be edited to meet the guidelines of specific wikis.


==See also== ==See also==
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"WP:FICTION" redirects here. For the style guideline, see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction. Essay on editing Misplaced Pages
This is an essay on notability.
It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Misplaced Pages contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of Misplaced Pages's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints.		Shortcuts
This page in a nutshell: Fictional elements are expected to follow the same notability guidelines as any other topic.
Notability
General notability guideline
Subject-specific guidelines
See also

There is no special guideline for the notability of fictional elements (such as characters and episodes) on Misplaced Pages. See other relevant policies and guidelines in order to determine which fiction-related articles are appropriate for inclusion on Misplaced Pages. In particular, editors should review:

For starters, the main work must be notable to begin with. If the work itself is not notable, it may be pointless to discuss the notability of its characters or episodes.

History and rationale

Several attempts have been made to establish specialized guidelines to cover the notability of fictional elements within Misplaced Pages. Until there is a successful proposal to treat fiction in a specialized way, consult other policies and guidelines for guidance on a wide range of topics, including fiction. Existing policies and guidelines have wide acceptance among editors and describe standards that all users should normally follow.

Improving articles

Information that may help provide the real-world discussion necessary for an encyclopedia article about a fictional topic includes reception, analysis, significance, development, legacy and influence, and relationships with or comparisons to other media. Dedicated sections are good, though sometimes in less developed articles, such information is contained in the lead but not the body.

Bear in mind that content in such information should be referenced to reliable, independent sources.

If such sections do not exist, before nominating the article for possible deletion, please adhere to WP:BEFORE and check whether sources to improve the article exists. A possible solution in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE can also take the form of redirecting the article to a list of similar entities or the article about the related, notable work this fictional element appears in.

Relevant guidelines and policies

Notability guidelines

Main page: Misplaced Pages:Notability

The Misplaced Pages's general notability guideline is appropriate and sufficient for demonstrating the notability of fictional elements. Specifically, fictional elements are presumed to be notable if there is significant coverage in independent secondary sources about the fictional element; when a fictional element is presumed notable, a separate article to cover that element is usually acceptable.

There are specialized notability guidelines for works of fiction which can be found in the following guidelines:

What Misplaced Pages is not

Main page: Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not

Articles on fiction are expected to follow existing content policies and guidelines, particularly Misplaced Pages is not simply plot summaries. Articles on fiction elements are expected to cover more about "real-world" aspects of the element, such as its development and reception, than "in-universe" details.

Manual of style

Main page: Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)

Editors interested in writing articles on fictional elements are encouraged to review Writing About Fiction and Misplaced Pages:Writing better articles#Check your fiction to understand the general approach and content of these articles.

Lists of fictional elements

Individually non-notable elements of a fictional work (such as characters and episodes) may be grouped into an appropriate list article. Advice for the appropriateness of these list articles can be found at the general notability guideline and at Stand-alone Lists and Topics.

Consult Wikiprojects

Editors should also review guidelines and recommendations made by WikiProjects that deal primarily with works of fiction. These include but not limited to:

A Misplaced Pages:Fiction/Noticeboard was created in 2009 but it was retired in 2010.

Previous proposals

See also

Categories: