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== Sam chon do ==


= December 13 =
Is there any article about "sam chon do"? I encountered it when reading a Russian site(сам чон до),http://www.hvan.ru/ and I am unsure of the transliteration into English.


== LUFS meter vs. Audiosurf algorithm ==
I am currently educating myself on Russian via language tapes and workbooks for the written word.
сам - ?
чон - itself
до - to


What are similarities and differences between ] meter (especially momentary) and ]'s audio analysis algorithm (when comes to how tracks are colored in particular way depending on the song intensity)? Considering the color (when "fancy coloring" mode is enabled) of momentary LUFS bar on my own when fed with the same song as the video, lines up with the color of the blocks and the tracks on and/or sometimes and at other times, it doesn't line up assuming they somehow sync with the video. ] (]) 03:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
The word I am unfamiliar with does not have the usual verb conjugation, is too short to be an uncommon adjective or adverb so I am almost certain it is a noun. However I am not certain as to what the noun is.
:] about the Audiosurf game tells that the game engine analyzes an imported song to create and save its dynamics in an ASH file. ] these files to extract the generating algorithms is research that is beyond anyone here. This is proprietary information that the game creator Dylan Fitterer may choose to withold. Already as you look for correlation between your objective LUFS detector and the game screen, bear in mind that where the object of Audiosurf is more to entertain than analytical logging, some degree of randomity may be deliberately included. ] (]) 16:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
::@] BTW, what's the difference between song intensity estimation algorithm (which ] probably uses it) and a ] meter (aka. a K-weighted RMS meter)? And are these two even interchangeable? ] (]) 02:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 15 =
:I suspect it's at least related to ]. -- ] <small>(])</small> 04:32, August 17, 2005 (UTC)


== Study of bats == == Meta physics ==


about things beyond nature ] (]) 20:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
What is the term for the ] of ]s? It's not "batology," is it? ]<sup>]</sup> 04:57, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
:See ]? ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 21:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:Note that metaphysics is not about phenomena or entities that are ''beyond'' the ]. The usual term for these is "the ]". &nbsp;--] 07:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
:The word "meta" means “beyond” and “about”. The word “physics” means “nature”.  Therefore, metaphysics can be regarded as the branch of philosophy that studies the fundamental nature of reality and existence. ] (]) 06:45, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::]The Ancient Greek preposition {{serif|]}} also means "next, after". It is generally thought that the title of Aristotle's book ] (Tōn metá ta phusiká), "Of the things after Physica", the etymon of our term '']'', was given to it (not by Aristotle but by the editor) simply because it was the next book in series, following Aristotle's book '']'', "Natural phenomena". &nbsp;--] 11:22, 19 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 16 =
: Possibly "chiroptology"? -- ] 05:42, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


== My habit of feature requests scared a developer? ==
::If it is it'd be ''chiropt<u>e</u>rology'', after the order of ]s. &brvbar; ] 06:06, 2005 August 14 (UTC)


Reading these posts ( and ) on a thread about foo_enhanced_spectrum_analyzer in ] forum about my doings that "scared" off a developer of foo_enhanced_spectrum_analyzer and foo_loudness_peakmeter components for ] player and yet, the developer of a for ] did implement my feature requests into this plugin despite I've not have written fanon wiki pages about future version of CoolEdit Nostalgia (like I did and before). So, why would they? ] (]) 18:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
::: confirms that it is chiropterology and chiropterologist. ] 06:14, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
:What has this got to do with wikipedia or finding references for anything? ] (]) 19:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Nanonic}} perhaps finding a reliable reference for what some bad habits when comes to feature requests that are likely to made software developers quit their job. ] (]) 21:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Your questions are scaring off the Reference desk respondents. &nbsp;--] 09:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:Whatever drama you're involved with on that board, I suggest you keep it there and don't post about it here. --] 10:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 17 =


== Futures contract ==


I don't understand finance, so I thought I'd ask. If I buy a ] for say a ton of corn at a specific price, and I hold it until the delivery date, will someone literally deliver a ton of corn to me? Thanks. ] (]) 00:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
== Bookmaker odds ==
:The contract is likely to read "FOB Kansas City," or something like that. You'll probably have to move it from whatever transportation it is on (train, ship) yourself. Or, arrange (pay for) delivery. ] (]) 01:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
::At the delivery date, the current buyer will have become the proud owner of a ton of corn ''somewhere''. The identity of the buyer of the contract almost always changes, so the seller drawing up the contract does not know the identity of the eventual buyer at the delivery date. Therefore, wherever the "somewhere" may be, you as the buyer can be reasonably sure it will not be delivered to your doorstep. &nbsp;--] 09:54, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:Oil futures have even been known to have a negative price, when the producers' local storage was full and demand was low. At that point the buyer of the contract is being paid to take it away. --] (]) 20:30, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:Most futures contracts are cash-settled and there is no physical transfer of the underlying asset. ] (]) 06:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::True, but this depends on both parties agreeing to a new or modified contract. If the buyer does the unexpected and just sits it out, as suggested in the original question, and also does not agree to a new contract, the seller is obligated to produce the asset to the buyer, even if this means they need to go and buy it on the market. &nbsp;--] 10:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, a futures contract is ultimately for purposes of delivery of the specified contract in accordance with its terms. A standard corn futures contract is for 5000 bushels (although there is also a mini corn future for only 1000 bushels). A bushel of corn (maize) weighs 56 pounds, so at settlement the buyer owns 140 tons of corn (or, for a mini corn future, 28 tons).
:But that is not going to be you. You are a retail investor and would trade through a ], who is probably not going to be willing to accept physical settlement on your behalf. ] (]) 00:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


== Which Political Bloggers are Former Programmers? ==
Why do bookies pay out odds at $X1 dollars, e.g. $51, $91, $101, $1001. What is the purpose of the extra dollar. --] 06:32, 14 August 2005 (UTC)--


Such as ] and ]. ] (]) 13:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:In the United Kingdom this isn't what they do. But what they do do is give you back your original stake as well as the winnings. If for example you bet ten pounds on a horse at ''5 to 1'', and it wins, after you pick yourself up from the floor the bookie will pay you back 5 times your stake (50 pounds) plus giving you your stake back (10 pounds): a total of 60 pounds. In the example you state above, you would see this effect if betting $1 at 50 to 1, 90 to 1, 100 to 1 or 1000 to 1. But it isn't an extra dollar, it's just the stake back. However, laws and conventions may vary: I understand in some countries it's even illegal to bet. Even in the United Kingdom, there are ways of betting on horses (e.g. the ]) which do not quote fixed odds so they don't work this way. ] 08:42, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
:Why do you ask that? I don't think the answer to this question can help you. ] (]) 01:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::Maybe the OP wants to find out how many other former programmers aren't very bright. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 13:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 19 =
I see this betting in Australia, where the odds are often for example 51 to 1, 91 to 1, 1001 to one. Is this just an Aussie thing? --] 09:33, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


== Who is the following unknown? ==
== Alan Dershowitz ==


When asked '''<span style="color: orange">"WHO IS YOUR X?"</span>''' (X still being unknown to me but is known to the respondents), here are the answers I get:
How many times has ] argued before the ]? ]<sup>]</sup> 06:51, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
:
:'''<span style="color: blue">A answers: "A"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: red">B answers: "C"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: red">C answers: "C"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: green">D answers: "F"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: green">E answers: "F"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: green">F answers: "F"</span>'''


To sum up, the special phenomenon here is that, everybody has their own X (usually), and if any respondent points at another respondent as the first respondent's X, then the other respondent '''must''' point at ''themself'' as their X.
I don't know and I couldn't find it on Google, but I guess you could e-mail him at the address on if you really want to know. --] 15:29, August 16, 2005 (UTC)


I wonder who the unknown X may be, when I only know that X is a ''natural example from everyday life''. I thought about a couple of examples, but none of them are satisfactory, as follows:
:If you have access to Westlaw or Lexis, you could search for his name. I don't remember if either has an "ARGUEDBY" field -- probably not, so you'd have to search the COUNSEL field and then look at each case to weed out the ones where he was credited on the brief but didn't handle the oral argument. ] 06:53, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
:
X is the leader of one's political party, or X is one's mayor, and the like, but all of these examples attribute some kind of ''leadership'' or ''superiority'' to X, whereas I'm not interested in this kind of solution - involving any ''superiority'' of X.
:
Here is a second solution I thought about: X is the ''first (or last)'' person born in the year/month the respondent was born, and the like. But this solution involves some kind of ''order'' (in which there is a "first person" and a "last person"), whereas I'm not interested in this kind of solution - involving any ''order''. ] (]) 12:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)


:Drummer? ]&nbsp;] 14:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
== EARTH ==
::The OP also posted this question on the Math desk. What if everyone says "I'm Spartacus!" ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 14:30, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::I forgot to add an important point (so I've just added it, thanks to your response): Everybody has their own X (usually). ] (]) 14:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::::What do you mean by "everybody has an X"? A lot of folks have an "ex", but is that what you mean? ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 15:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::I mean that everybody has their own X (usually), whether X is one's mayor, or X is the leader of one's political party, and so forth. Additionally, keep in mind that if any respondent points at another respondent as the first respondent's X, then the other respondent must point at ''themself'' as their X. ] (]) 15:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::(ec)The statement "everybody has their own X" makes no sense to me, and I'm a native English speaker. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 15:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::X is the usual symbol denoting an unknown (as in mathematical equations), but here the unknown is a person, like "a mayor", and the like. ] (]) 15:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:There are too many possible answers that still don't involve order or superiority.
:- Translator
:- Publisher
:- Spokesperson
:- Copyeditor
:- Cleaner
:- Keyholder (person who closes a shop and responsible for turning up in cases of property related emergencies - sometimes it's a manager but sometimes it's merely someone who is willing to stay late or be early)
:- Scribe
:- Accountant
:- Driver
:Basically anything where there's a "role" in a group but usually only one (barring circumstances).
:What are you hoping to accomplish by asking a question like this? ] (]) 15:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thx. {{resolved}} ] (]) 15:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't believe it. A publisher doesn't have necessarily a publisher, because it normally is not an author. A keyholder could be a trusted neighbour,who doesn't work at the shop and is therefore not its own keyholder (at least in relation to the shop). Of course in relation to its own living quarters mostly everybody is a keyholder, but that was not part of the definition. Even a translator doesn't translate itself when it expresses itself in the foreign language. At least not necessarily. Even a cleaner doesn't necessarily cleans up after itself. I know one! Personally!
:::When you're satisfied by these examples that don't match your description, then I would like to see the real description. ] (]) 08:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:So this is interesting linguistically and socially - the use of the word "usually" lets in a lot of the examples given, at least in some societies. However mathematically you are looking for something impossible. Lets assume that everyone has an X (or equivalently ignore those people without an X, who are also no-one's X). The relation partitions the set into subsets (i.e. the subsets include all the elements, and each element is in one and only one subset). Each subset has one self-X call it C for centre, and all the other elements (0 or more of them) point to C. Example, whole numbers under the relation "what is the remainder if you are divided by 5". 5 subsets with C=0, 1, 2, 3, 4. In every case there is a "privileged" centre, whether it would be considered superior, inferior or just special is open to interpretation. You can only have no centres in the case where there are no elements at all. All the best: ''] ]''<small> 21:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC).</small><br />


== Street View ==
''Why does earth rotate around itself??''
:From what I understand about physics, it rotates around itself because of ]. It probably started rotating around itself when it was first being formed, and as the laws of mechanics say, an object in motion tends to stay in motion. There's no friction in space to slow the Earth's rotation down, nor do any sufficiently large foreign objects hit it. Actually, it would be very uncommon for a non-self-powered object in space '''not''' to rotate around itself. ] | ] 08:47, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


Why Googlehas not launched Street View in mainland China? There do exist several user-submitted photos, mostly from landmarks and historical cities, but why Google cars have not traveled there yet? How likely is that in 2034, mainland China will have photos by Google cars if Street view is launched there?
] of ]. ] 15:59:57, 2005-08-14 (UTC)


And, why South Korea, a country with a large economy and almost no bans, still has large unphotographed areas with most minor cities and major freeways are not photographed entirely? And could North Korea ever get Street View by Google cars? --] (]) 17:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
==Shop prices only just below a round amount==
:Here is some info: ] There are some places in China where they have it. As to future predictions, Misplaced Pages can't do that. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 19:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Why are most prices of items in shops in most of the western world (Europe and North America at least) only just below a round amount? For example, 0.99 instead of 1, 1.99 instead of 2, 9.99 instead of 10, 24.99 instead of 25, and so on? My original reasoning was that the shop "fools" people into thinking the price is significantly less than the round amount, but that can't be right, can it? It's so widespread that it must have been independently thought of in several places. ] | ] 09:17, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
:{{ping|40bus}} https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/160276 (and see also my comment below). {{tq|could North Korea ever get Street View by Google cars}} That is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future, and anything beyond that is unforeseeable. ] (]) 01:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:Because when you buy five items you save a whole 5 cents --] 09:35, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
::My dream would be every country in the world having full coverage. Is that likely in next 20 years? At least Belarus's lack of Street View should be corrected. I would like to see views from every country. --] (]) 06:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:Or perhaps because businesses don't pay tax on money that is rounded up. It would end up being quite a large amount over the space of a year, But then this is a total guess, and I'm sure laws are different in different countries. --] 09:38, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
::Is that actually the cases anywhere? in britain you pay tax on the full amount. ] ] 11:48, 14 August 2005 (UTC) :::"]". ] <sup>'']''</sup> ] 07:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:Its psychological. Ninety-nine sounds much lower than a hundred. Its not a western phenomena let me add. {{User:Nichalp/sg}} 11:40, August 14, 2005 (UTC)


:Though a multinational, Google is at base an American company, or at least is perceived as such.
:It also discourages employee theft. If it costs a fiver and you give a fiver you may very well walk out of the shop without waiting for a receipt, and the employee has the option of poketing the money rather than ringing it up. If it costs 4.99 you tend to wait for the change, forcing the employee to ring it into the till. ] ] 11:48, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
:Think about the political tensions between the ], and the West in general and the USA in particular. Now ask yourself – how ''might'' the ] feel about American-controlled spy-cars driving around the whole of China, photographing everything visible? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ] (]) 20:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::Unfortunately in India we don't have a 1 ] coin, so we end up paying the rounded figure. {{User:Nichalp/sg}} 11:51, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
::That is (obviously) not the reason; your tin foil hat is malfunctioning. The USA does not require something as lowtech as a 360 camera mounted on a car to drive through an area to spy on that area. The reason is that Google does not want to waste its money. And China has a habit of creating local state-owned alternatives to foreign services, allowing those to rip off the foreign tech, and then massively disadvantaging the foreign company. They have done this many times before. ] (]) 01:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::But do you have 5, 10 or 50 paise coins? In Finland we didn't have 1 or 5 ] coins either for the last couple of years of the ], but there were still prices such as 0.90, 1.90, etc. ] | ] 16:37, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm not suggesting that the ''US'' would ''want'' (or need) to do this. I'm asking how the ''Chinese'' Government would welcome the ''appearance'' of it, particularly in the perception of their own people. International relations and management of internal perceptions are all about opinions, beliefs, and what can be spun, regardless of truth.
:::Recently, in my own country, Chinese visitors and personnel from an ostensible language school fomented a totally spurious 'incident' at a London railway terminus, by approaching a well-known busker and YouTuber filming his and others' performances on a public piano, and then insisting that he stop filming, complaining to police present that he was violating their rights by filming them. This was not done for any valid reason, but (presumably) to try to manipulate public opinion within China, and create a spurious 'grievance' to use in diplomatic discussions. Such games go on all the time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ] (]) 01:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::{{tq|I'm asking how the ''Chinese'' Government would welcome the ''appearance'' of it}} I have answered the original question; please don't hijack this thread to ask a vaguely related question and then bring up unrelated stuff (which was not recent but a year ago, and a storm in a teacup, and your conspiracy theory is not supported by evidence). There are plenty of diplomatic incidents between China and the UK; neither side has a need to manufacture one. If you want to ask a new question, please post it in a new section. Thank you, ] (]) 01:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Telling a user "your tin foil hat is malfunctioning" is offensive, and is by itself a "hijacking" of this section. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 02:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Incorrect (on both counts). And posting 2 conspiracy theories in 1 thread is a clear sign of a malfunctioning tin foil hat. ] (]) 02:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::If you love the Chinese government so much, maybe you should have your own "tin foil hat" checked for malfunctions. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 02:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks for proving my point. The CCP killed insane numbers of people through brutality and incompetence. But we should still call out tin foil conspiracy nonsense. The idea that all conspiracies about the "other" must be true, just because we don't like them, is a very very dangerous one. Just like the idea that everyone who points out that some conspiracies about the "other" are false must be an "other". ] (]) 12:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Considering ], it seems correct to mention the Chinese Government as a cause. ] and ] have presumably obtained authorization, because they're not foreign organizations. This incidentally functions as protectionism. I tracked the piano thing down to ], and I suppose there ''is'' a tenuous connection since it involves the ] and image rights. ]&nbsp;] 03:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Google's use of GCJ-02 coordinate data and WGS-84 sattelite images has led to in the past. ] (]) 12:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::The Surveying and Mapping Law led to 14 companies being given exclusive rights to map China. All local companies. Google Maps applied and was denied. https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/63636/ https://medium.com/@anastasia.bizyayeva/every-map-of-china-is-wrong-bc2bce145db2 ] (]) 12:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:Relations between Google and the Chinese government have been difficult for years. China wants its citizens to see only a censored version of the internet, requiring Google to filter results from its search engine. In case of Street View, the Chinese government is concerned about what their own citizens can see (and I suppose they also want to know who views which streets). Google isn't very eager to comply with all China's request, as that could be quite expensive and bad for their image in less authoritarian states. ] (]) 19:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:Why Somalia, Venezuela and Cuba do not have Street View yet? --] (]) 23:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::This question can be answered by chatgpt or similar. Or by reading the Misplaced Pages articles about those countries. ] (]) 01:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 21 =
:I have heard this referred to as ]. The two explanations above (fooling the customer and preventing employee theft) are usually given, with a third: the total includes a checksum for the number of items purchased. ] 14:22:15, 2005-08-14 (UTC)
::Some stores also use the least significant digit for classification, e.g. .x9 is regular, .x7 is sale, .x6 is rebate, .x3 is refurbished, what have you. ] | ] 20:55:10, 2005-08-17 (UTC)
:I do not know how come it started, but today in some US states it is easier to cheat people like the gov when computing taxes.
::If you have access to the rules used in retail for taxes, it is not a fixed % with a spelled out rounding rule, but table of rates, how much to charge if price is this, in which there are marginal tax rates that encourage pricing like this. ]|] 21:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


== Britannica ==
== Slavery in the United States ==


Why ] uses imperial units in its articles, ever for things that are measured in metric in UK such as temperatures, if it is based in UK and read by people in metric countries? --] (]) 07:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
When was slavery abolished (in law, although perhaps not in practice) in the USA ? On the website of ] I can see that a law was signed during the US civil war, but this by no means extended to all areas. I cannot, however, find anywhere reference to when universal legislation came into effect across all states and territories that the US controls (or controlled). Can someone please help ? Even better, perhaps an appropriate article of Misplaced Pages can be expanded in this respect. Many thanks
:{{u|40bus}}, it is not based in the UK despite its British sounding name. The Encyclopaedia Britannica has been published in the United States since 1901. That's two years before the first human piloted airplane flight. ] (]) 07:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
::Why it is not based in the UK? And if it is read and edited by people in metric countries, why many of its articles use imperial units first? It even uses British English spelling. And are there any similar UK-based online encyclopedias? --] (]) 08:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::No. Go be bored somewhere else. ] (]) 09:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


:::If all else fails, you could try ''asking them''. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 16:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
A paragraph from our article on ]:


== Webpages ==
:''During the period between the surrender of the last Confederate troops on May 26, 1865 and the final ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment on December 6, 1865 (with final recognition of the amendment on December 18), officially ending chattel slavery in the United States, slaveholding persisted in the slave states not in rebellion against the Union (Delaware, Kentucky, and Missouri; Maryland established a new constitution, which abolished slavery, November 1, 1864) and also in the territories located south of 36° 30' North latitude as per the Missouri Compromise (most of the present-day states of Arizona, New Mexico, and some of Oklahoma, although very few slaves could actually be found in these territories), but history remains unclear on the precise date upon which the last chattel slave was freed in the United States. Juneteenth (June 19, 1865) is celebrated in Texas and some other areas, and commemorates the date when news of the Emancipation Proclamation reached the last slaves at Galveston, Texas.''


Are there any web pages from late 1980s and early 1990s that are still in their original address, rather than on Internet Archive? Was it common for a company or person to have website in early 1990s? --] (]) 07:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
] 12:52, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


:We have a ]. The IN2P3 site from 1992 can still be visited, where you may enjoy seeing the French National Institute for Nuclear Physics and Particle Physics's contact details, a small picture of the building, and five hyperlinks. The article says there were {{tq|2,879 websites established before 1995}}, so no, it wasn't common. ]&nbsp;] 09:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
== what happens if we have more or less chromosomes? ==
::Were there any websites around in 1990? This year feels still relatively recent. And are there any saved TV broadcasts from that time in the web, from any country? --] (]) 11:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Are you just randomly asking questions? ] (]) 12:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Take the effort to read the first sentence of ] and you will have the answer to your question. &nbsp;--] 10:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


== Did ]'s father, ==
Have you looked at the article on ]? ] 11:48, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


Fred, know ]'s father, who is said to have been a mob contract killer? I'm asking because I've heard rumors somewhere that both Donald and Fred had mob contacts in New York City.] (]) 22:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Bad things. Each ] contains about 1/46 of genetic information, including thousands of ]s affecting most of the organ systems in the body. Missing chromosomes (except ] and sometimes ]) tend to be incompatible with fetal development. Extra chromosomes tend to cause minor or major ] or malfunction of multiple parts of the body. ] 12:49, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


:"Said to have been"; is there a reliable source that claims this? It has also been said that Donald Trump is a shape shifting lizard.<sup></sup> Harold Giuliani was at the bottom of the low end of shady dealings in the Italian immigrant community. It seems extremely unlikely that Fred Trump, a high-profile successful real-estate developer from the German immigrant community, would have a reason to meet him. &nbsp;--] 10:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:Having an odd combination of ] tends to have less ill effects than odd numbers of other chromosomes. For instance, ] usually does not manifest itself in any way. ] is an exception, in which most babies spontaneously abort before fully developing. Abnormal numbers of other genes are always fatal and/or extremely detrimental. ], for instance, is caused by having three copies of chromosome 21. There is a short list of chromosome abnormalities ]. ] 15:29, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, that's what the OP is asking. You're just repeating the OP's question using different words. --] 10:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::The OP did not ask whether it was plausible but whether it was true. Even if the mob contract killer story should prove more than randomly created innuendo, there is still nothing to suggest the two fathers ever met. The suggested mob contacts would not make this more likely than two random New Yorkers (like Henri who sometimes ordered pizza and Freddy who sometimes delivered pizza) knowing each other. It is very difficult to prove a negative, but the question implied the OP thought it was at least plausible, which, as I tried to point out, it is not. &nbsp;--] 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{small|No insult intended to shape-shifting lizards. ] (]) 10:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)}}
::(it's easy for you to google that the rumors are out there, Lambiam.] (]) 18:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I did not dispute the rumours exist, but IMO they are irrelevant to the question whether the two fathers knew each other, so I ignored them. &nbsp;--] 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:Giuliani gave a eulogy and he probably would have mentioned it if they knew eachother, but it doesn't seem like he did. https://nypost.com/1999/06/30/trump-patriarch-eulogized-as-great-builder/ ] (]) 18:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:https://stevevillano.medium.com/the-trumps-an-incestuous-intertwining-with-organized-crime-ab65316c2b48
:] (]) 19:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for finding this, Polygnotus. But are you sure Rudy would have mentioned it in his eulogy, being possibly embarrassed about his father's occupation? And mentioning an acquaintance with his father would not make Fred seem more illustrious, which eulogies are meant to do. ] (]) 19:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::No, I haven't found definitive proof. ] (]) 12:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 22 =
:Close but not quite. XXX causes taller stature in most and learning problems in many of these people. Turner syndrome is not an exception to any of the prior statements. ] 15:45, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


== Policy related to places ==
::As the article on XXX says, "triple X syndrome most often causes no unusual physical features or medical problems." Taller stature and learning disabilities are linked to people with triple-x, but having three x chromosomes is by no means a guarantee that either of those things will happen (neither of which are very severe), unlike with Down syndrome, where having trisomy 21 guarantees Down's. Turner syndrome '''is''' an exception to the general rule that abnormal sex chromosomes, while having some odd effects, are not detrimental to the same extent as other chromosomal abnormalities are. ] 19:16, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

:::Perhaps the problem is the precision of your reading and/or writing. Both of your assertions, that XXX "usually does not manifest itself in any way", and "Turner syndrome is an exception...to the general rule that abnormal sex chromosomes... are not detrimental to the same extent as other chromosomal abnormalities" were simply false. Most people with XXX are taller than they would be otherwise and many have learning problems. Turner syndrome is an example, not an exception, to the generalization about sex chromosome versus autosome aneuploidy. ] 20:34, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

::::First, Turner syndrome is most certainly an exception to the generalization that sex chromosome abnormalities are less harmful than autosomal ones. See Lippe B: Turner syndrome. Endocrinol Metab Clin North Am 20(1):121-152, 1991, where it is found that 99% of fetuses with Turner syndrome are spontaneously aborted. Further, XXX is so unremarkable that some 80% of people with it go undiagnosed. As for learning problems, most are, nontheless, of normal inteligence. The article "A developmental study of girls with trisomy X." from Genetics 1975 Jan;27(1):71-80 found that "two-thirds were considered normal and adequately adjusted. No consistent phenotype was found." That study only dealt with children who were already known to have XXX syndrome; there are many more that are never even diagnosed. It is clear the trisomy x is not as serious most other disorders. ] 21:08, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

::::Nope. First, if Turner syndrome were not "less harmful" than missing autosomes there would be no girls for Barbara to have written an article about. About 1 in 3000 people are missing a sex chromosome; many go to college. Give me an example of an autosome deletion in which even 1 in a thousand make it to birth, let alone grow up to become taxpayers. Turner syndrome certainly is an example of how sex chromosome aneuploidies are milder than autosomal ones. Second, you claimed that XXX "usually does not manifest itself in any way", and over half of these girls are either taller than would have been statistically expected given family heights or have more school difficulty than would be expected compared to siblings. You are certainly stubborn, but not correct in either case. ] 21:33, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:::::You seem to be completely ignoring what I'm saying and the statistics I'm giving. says that "monosomy X (Turner syndrome) is observed frequently and is the most common chromosomal abnormality observed in SABs (spontaneous abortions). Turner syndrome accounts for 20-25% of cytogenetically abnormal abortuses," which is a huge number considering the large number of problems that can lead to spontaneous abortion. gives the incidence rate of Turner syndrome in the US at 1 in 5,000 or .02%, an extremely low percentage on its own. Also, it cites the University of Ulster which says that 1 infant was born alive in the UK with Turner Syndrome in 2002 and that it occured in only 2.38 per 10,000 births. There are clearly not many people who make it past pregnancy. As for XXX, I actually said that it '''usually''' does not manifest itself in anyway, which is well supported by the study I referenced above as saying that 2/3 of the children tracked in the study with XXX had no abnormalities. ] 15:08, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

::::I realize this has gone past facts to headbutting, but not a single statistic you provided has proven your erroneous assertions nor disagreed with anything I have said. Different studies give different stats for Turner frequency and it makes no difference to any of the above whether it is 1 in 3000 or 1 in 20,000, it is still '''''hundreds''''' of times more likely than a missing autosome to result in a walking, talking, socially functioning person and is thus an example of, not an exception to, the generalization about sex chromosome aneuploidies being less harmful than autosome aneuploidies. As far whether there is any effect on most people with XXX, I think you are confusing major problems with the literal meaning of "any effect". Average heights are taller, average school performance is lower, average fertility rates are lower, average amydala size is smaller (to pick a random recent report). Although you could argue theoretically that a minority of patients have striking enough tallness or learning problems to provide an abnormal average, the usual distribution of these characteristics suggests that it is more likely that most have mild effects below limits of any but statistical detection. This is not the same as "no effect" even if they are not clinically troublesome. You are the one who needs to read your and my words more carefully. ] 16:46, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

::Each chromosome (in humans) carries roughly 1/23 of the total genetic information (they come in pairs, one from each parent). If you have an extra chromosome, you tend to produce more of the proteins which are coded for on that chromosome, relative to the proteins coded for on the 22 others. This tends to push your biochemistry out of kilter: prenatal death is the usual consequence, although some individuals (eg, those with Triple-X or Down syndromes) survive until birth and beyond. This doesn't apply if you have a complete set of duplicate chromosomes, which happens quite often in plants: the ratio of different proteins is still OK, although the cell division becomes more costly in energy and materials. ] 16:28, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

== Throat slit ==

If your throat is slit, how long do you have to live, and what is the medical cause of death? {{User:Nichalp/sg}} 11:42, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
:I guess it would depend on how deep the cut was. No? In general, I'd say there are quite a few factors to take into account and that would make this question a rather hard one to answer. ] 12:18, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

It depends on how complete a job it is. The severing of both ] results in instant deprivation of most of the brain's blood supply, unconsciousness within a couple of seconds, and irreversible brain death within 5-10 minutes. Severing one carotid would be like a massive stroke affecting one side of the brain in seconds, plus a large amount of bleeding. Loss of consciousness might not be immediate though loss of motor function might. Death from bleeding depends on the rate of blood loss-- you have to lose a lot to become unconscious, typically over 30% of blood supply. If the trachea (windpipe), but not the carotids would be cut, it might not be fatal unless bleeding or crushing obstructed breathing, in which case unconsciousness would occur within a couple of minutes and death in 5-10 minutes. Note that I am not a forensic pathologist nor a serial knife murderer, either of whom I would consider an authority. ] 12:43, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks for the info. Sadly, that would mean no sort of medical aid would ever help the {{User:Nichalp/sg}} 13:57, August 14, 2005 (UTC)
* I also seem to remember the direction of the cut is important. I would assume that a killer using their dominant hand to do the cut could make it deeper as that hand could use more force. - ]|] 16:46, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

== Geography of Antarctica ==

I remember reading somewhere that, beneath the thick layers of ice / snow, Antartica consists of two large "islands" with a wide stretch of ocean in between, i.e. in that sense it is not a single continent. Is this true? It would be nice if the article Geography of Antartica could have a map of its iceless form. (Actually, if you did remove all the ice, would the weight reduction cause the plate to rise by a significant amount, causing a change in the contour?) Thank you.
: shows Antarctica in its iceless form. ] 12:46, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

::That map is not correct. It marks as solid land any place where ice extends to bedrock. The lighter colored regions are ice shelfs where the ice is resting on water. However, there are large chunks of Antarctica where the bedrock is below sea level so that it would be ocean if you could magically remove 3-4 km of ice. This map is more accurate for what you get with magic ice removal. Not exactly "two large islands", but perhaps less firm than one might expect. Of course, one can't just magically remove the ice. If the ice ever were to melt, then the reduced weight from removing that much ice would cause the ground to rise substantially (over 1 km in some places). I don't really know what the final version would look like, but it might be enough uplift to close all the potential channels shown in the plot above. ] 06:16, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

:In ]'s ], the Nautilus reaches the South Pole by traveling under Antartica and surfacing at a fictional sea in the middle of the continent. His account of the South Pole was notably warmer than reality, and populated by penguins, fish and birds… Whoops, Verne got that one wrong. Perhaps this was the book you read? ] 13:06, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:Perhaps you (or the author) were thinking of ]? It's certainly been hypothesised in the past that it's multiple islands under the icecap, though I don't know if that's currently supported by the evidence. ]

:Antarctica would indeed rise if the ice was taken off, as part of the process of ], or "isostatic readjustment" as I seem to remember it being called. Now another thing I remember hearing about not too long ago is a theory that rising sea level could be dramatically worsened by the ice cap becoming unstuck from the landmass as it warms up and melts partially, allowing water to get underneath between the ice and the rocky surface. This would make the whole ice sheet much more liable to break up, substantially increasing its rate of melting as the exposed surface area increased and detatched bits drifted into warmer climes. I don't know how much truth there is in this. Perhaps we need our resident Antarctica expert ] to offer some insight here. &mdash; ] (]) 19:48, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

== ARTIST: Pakelika, KottonMouth Kings ==

So far I've only made small edits to the ] page, and will be adding knowledge as I progress through my freshman year of college. ] Is an activist and an artist with many references, but no article. I know he's a member of the ] under the ] (Stoners Reaking Havoc) as the "Entertainment" rather than a vocalist or musician (specific name used). It is rumored he undertook a ] for a period of a year or more. In "entertaining" he created and named his own dance style, ]. I would apreciate help building this article and collecting information further referencing Pakelika to his creation, HyrdroMechanics, and his contributions to the ] movement.

Also I'm new here so I need to get the syntax down, post any suggestions on my talk page. (if that's how people contact each other on Wiki)

Thanks

:Welcome to Misplaced Pages. This page is for specific questions… Do you have one? Please read the text at the top of the page. As for syntax help, see ].] 12:58, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, i'l take a look at that. Well I guess my specific question is where do I go to ask a general question such as above?
:Have you visited this ] page? http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Help_desk
:You might also post something at ] and then various people will go to your talk page and post links to pages that help you navigate Wiki. ]|] 21:20, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

== Hatteria ==

Does anyone know the origin of the name "Hatteria", a reptile from New Zealand also named ''tuatara'' or ''Sphenodon''?
--] 13:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

If I understand the taxonomic history correctly, then:
# In 1831, the British Museum was sent a skull of an unknown vertebrate. ] identified it (incorrectly) as a lizard and placed in a new genus which he named ''Sphaenodon'' (''Zool. Misc.'', 1:14).
# The name ''Sphaenodon'' was corrected to ''Sphenodon'' (when?)
# A specimen found in Karewa Island, New Zealand, was named ''Hatteria punctata'' by Gray in 1842 (''Zool. Misc.'' 2:72).
# It was realized (by whom?) that the ''Sphaenodon'' skull belonged to the same species as ''H. punctata''. This made ''Hatteria'' a ] of ''Sphaenodon'', so the New Zealand Tuatara became ''Sphenodon punctatus''. (Note the change of gender.)
See ] 15:51:32, 2005-08-14 (UTC)

==Crappy russian present==

]
My brother tries his hardest to find examples of the most riduculous and shameful souveniers wherever he goes on holiday. This year he has excelled himself. I am now in posession of the worst keyring ever. On one side is an engraving of that superb example of an automobile - the ]. Does anyone known which model it is?
]
The salesman pleased at getting his attention at this fine piece of art, went on to explain it is even more valuable as it is engraved on both sides.

My heart fluttered - perhaps it would be a picture of a better Lada. Or perhaps a rarer breed of russian car.

On looking at the reverse, he was delighted to find a picture of a Russian Orthodox cleric. I should probably mention now that my brother wasn't even on holiday in Russia. There is a load of ] text. Can anyone translate, at least just the title? ] ''']'''</font color = red> ] 13:18, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:The first word in the title means 'prayer', and I can't exactly read the second word, but it's an adjective, so I'll venture to guess that the small text is some sort of russian orthodox prayer. I don't know what this has to do with the ]. &mdash; ] ] 16:22, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:The car looks like a ] ]; they were sold here in the ] until a few years ago. There are a number of photos of Samaras . ] (]) 17:50, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:it's a "traveller's prayer", making the keyring a ]: You're supposed to use it for your ignition keys, and so maybe with this pious piece of plastic dangling from your dashboard, you'll be less likely to die in a car crash. ] <small>]</small> 18:08, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:The first line, "Молитва водителя", means, "Prayer of the driver." My Russian isn't very good but it says "God" quite a lot and "death" a few times. "Помоги меня, Господи" (pr: ''Po-ma-gee men-ya, Gas-po-dee'') &mdash; <s>''"Help me, Gentleman"?''</s> ''Help me, Lord'' (entertaining mistranslation, eh?). The capitalization seems very un-Russian to me but that might be because it is referencing God a lot? I don't know much about these things, I must admit, my experience with Russian is very new. --] 21:19, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

::The capitalization may be due to the refrences to god, such as 'He' (as opposed to 'he') is used in the bible a lot. &mdash; ] ] 02:31, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

For what it's worth, here's my translation:

THE DRIVER'S PRAYER
The Almighty and Allmerciful God, I humbly beseech You, save me, the sinner, and
the people I am responsible for from sudden death and every danger.
Merciful God, save me from the evil spirit of dare-devilry and drunkenness that
cause disasters and sudden death without an opportunity to repent.
Help me, Lord, to live till advanced age with the clean conscience, without the burden
of having killed and maimed by my negligence, and let Your name be hallowed now, and
forever, and in all ages to come.
Amen.

The font is just a bit archaic, to create a religious impression. ] 19:13, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:That's pretty humorous! --] 15:06, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== Math problems ==

<nowiki>Insert non-formatted text here</nowiki>I've had 24 math problems; of those, three I'm having difficulty with. Can anybody help out a little? Thanks. --(Anon)

#<math>3a-(a-7)=15</math>
#<math>4 = -10(5-m)</math>
#<math>(2/3)(2d-5)-(5/3)(4-d)=2</math>


#<math>3a-(a-7)=15</math>
#:This one's very easy I can't see why you are stuck on it. Expand the bracket (remember a - times a - is a +) collect terms then solve. Show your steps here and we will help you.
#<math>4 = -10(5-m)</math>
#: Again you need to expand the brackets. Do the -3(2-m) first. Collect the terms that contain m on one side of the = and the constants on the other side. Solve.
#<math>(2/3)(2d-5)-(5/3)(4-d)=2</math>
#:Multipy both sides by 3 to get rid of those pesky fractions. Expand the brackets then solve.

If you show the steps in your working here we can help you if you go wrong. ] ] 15:16, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:See ]. Once you have all of the parentheses taken care of, it should be relatively simple to isolate the variable on one side. ] 15:22, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

#<math> 3a-a+7=15\ becomes\ 2a=8\, which\ is\ a=4.</math>
#<div style="width: 459px; overflow: auto;"><math> 4=-50+10m\ is\ equivalent\ to\ 4(4m-11)=-50+10m\ then,\ 16m-44=-50+10m.\ Finally,\ 6m=-6\ ,which\ ,of\ course,\ renders\ m=-1.</math></div>
I have done the first two of them; these are pre-algebra problems. The rest are solved similarly.
--Karl

== Can't insert my image in Latex file ==

Why is my latex code always coming back with an error?

I want to insert an image in my document. My code is
<tt>
\begin{figure}
\includegraphics{Figures/fGA.eps}
\end{figure}
</tt>
(simplified to its bare minium while I work out the bug). The compiler returns
<tt>
Runaway argument?
width=15cm]{Figures/fGA.eps} \end {figure}
! Paragraph ended before \Gin@iii was complete.
<to be read again>
\par
1.46
?
! Emergency stop.
</tt>
If I use the exact same code as above, but omit the "<tt></tt>", it works fine (except I get a warning that my image is too big). If I replace cm with mm or in, I still get the error, if I play with the spacing in the width command I still get the error.

Any advice? Thanks!
-Mary

: Did you <code>\include{graphicx}</code>? Otherwise try <code>\resizebox{15cm}{!}{\includegraphics{Figures/fGA.eps}}</code>. Cheers, --] 16:14, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

::Ahhh, "graficx" works. "Graphics", which I was originally using, must not like width arguments, or something. Thanks!

== unidentified insect ==

<gallery>
Image:Unknown bug the first.JPG|Top view
Image:Unknown bug the second.JPG|Bottom view
</gallery>
Does anyone recognize this insect? I found it lying on the garden steps in Baltimore, on August 12, 2005; it had been killed and nibbled, probably by my sister's cat. The wings visible here span about 12 cm/5 in.; the second pair of wings was badly damaged, either by the cat or by the ants that were carrying away what was left. &#8212;]] 16:07, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Looks like a common moth to me.

:"recognize this insect" like, did we meet it while it was alive, or just the species? -- ] | ] 19:15, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

::We need to inform its immediate family, don't we? ~~ ''']''' (]/]) 19:16, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

::: Yes. At least we don't have to worry about them finding out by seeing its poor, mangled body here on Misplaced Pages: as any spider will tell you, insects don't even notice the web. -- ] | ] 19:36, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

:My best guess is that it's an ] (minus the tail parts, of course). &brvbar; ] 19:27, 2005 August 14 (UTC)

== Huge Problem in London, Please Help ASAP! ==

I have a major situation on my hands, and was hoping that somebody could help. I am currently in London near the Bayswater Underground Station. I need to get to the Stansted Airport for a flight that leaves at 6:45 (so I can't arrive later than 5:30 or so). The tube closes very early and I can't figure out how to do this. The best route I can find is:

Westbourne Grove Stop F Bus N7 towards Russell Square 2:55
Marble Arch Stop R Bus N73 to Victoria
Then taking a National Express Bus to the Airport

However this is both expensive and I'm not too sure that it is a good idea to be walking around/waiting at bus stops in London at 3:00am. Any good alternatives? Thank you so much for your help.

:If you're willing to go from Victoria, and you can write off sleeping much, you could go to Victoria (Bus) Station earlier on, before midnight, and wait there - it's lit and open through the night, I think. bus times to Stanstead. Victoria bus station is a block away from Victoria Station - they're nearby, but not identically placed.

:There's also a train out of Liverpool St. at 4.30am, apparently , but I don't know if the station's open overnight. ] 19:30, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

::Phone national rail to find out when it's open: 08457 484950

==International market/restaurant chains not in Finland==
Why have so many international market/restaurant chains invaded pretty much all of Europe except for Finland? We don't have a single ] or ], but there are plenty in Sweden and Norway. Also every time I visit a neighbouring country I see lots of sweets at the supermarket that aren't for sale in Finland. Even Estonia has those! We do have ] pretty much everywhere, though, even including the world's northernmost one. But what is keeping the others away? Is it the high tax rate? Or are our own chains so strong the competition scares the others away? ] | ] 20:11, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
: yeah that finland has enough ] i noticed while watching the two marathons recently during the world championships athletics. but as for the question, wouldn't the finish wiki make more sense for such a question? ] 09:45, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

==Simon in UK and USA==
Is the name Simon only used in the UK, and not the USA? There's ], Simon Moon (]'s brother), ], my little brother's friend's little brother Simon, my former work colleague Simon, and all of them are British. I don't think I've ever heard of an American Simon. Are there any? ] | ] 20:16, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:In the "name samples" from the 1990 US census, Simon was about the 400th most common male first name, shared by 0.026% of the population. If that holds nationally (it might be skewed by chance, in a small sample), there should be about 75,000 across the USA. For comparison, there were about 185,000 Simons on the UK electoral roll in 2001; this doesn't include people under 18, of course, so the number would likely be upwards of 200,000. ] 20:22, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
::Simon the Sorcerer isn't British. He was Roman! Simon is a very old name. ] 23:16, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

::: I think its popularity in the US is illustrated by the fact that it is listed as being between "]" and "]" in popularity. ]|] 23:24, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
::::In that case, it might actually be on the rise. According to the , it was 256th most common for boys born in 2004. -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 17:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:::::I imagine that rise is directly related to the appearence on ] on American TV. ] 20:41, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

::: I was actually referring to the computer game, which is British. ] | ] 04:25, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:Simon isn't that popular, but the name is known from ]. For a name that will be regarded as incorrigibly British, try "Nigel" (#886 on that list of U.S. male names!). (Sorry, Nigels) ] 03:40, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:"Fergus" is even less likely for an American. It isn't even on the list! (Sorry, Fergii) ] 14:48, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::Traditionally in North America Simon was seen as a distinctively Jewish name. If you look through ] you will find a fair number of Simons, both as a first and last name. My impression is that this is not so much true today, but it is still a view held some older generations. When I was born in 1981, several older relatives were not wholly pleased with my name for this reason. - ] 17:33, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
:"Fergus" isn't at all common in the UK either. ] ''']'''</font color = red> ] 15:44, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

==PTSD Education in US Military==
Has the US military made any effort to educate or prepare its soldiers about ]? If such education exists, has it had a notable impact on the incidence of PTSD within military forces? Thank you. --] 20:59, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

:Not sure about specific education, but (intrusive ad-watching required) by ] about the US Army's post-traumatic stress disorder treatment program for veterans, and stories that it's about to suffer financial cutbacks. It mentions some statistics on historical rates of PTSD in vets of various wars. Keep in mind that Salon has a distinctly liberal, antiwar bent, but that doesn't make its reports factually inaccurate...--] 22:33, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:Very interesting. Thank you. I was wondering if anyone who either has been or currently is in the US military - or in any military, for that matter - might be able to help out with my original question. Thanks. --] 17:03, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

::Some web searching (I googled "ptsd education training military") turned up this promoting such educational programs, but there doesn't seem to be any mention that their programs have actually been ''adopted'' by any part of the US military. This mental health site is a bit light on details specifically referring to PTSD but mentions a multi-level mental health training program - a basic level for all defence personnel, and more comprehensive courses for caring professions who aren't specifically mental health experts (chaplains, nurses and the like) as well as specific professional training for those responsible for providing mental health services. In either case, there might be more information available by digging around on the sites (or contacting them and asking if you've got specific questions). --] 02:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:: :) Now why didn't I think of that? Thank you very much for your help, Robert. I've got a lead now. --] 20:15, August 17, 2005 (UTC)


My father is PTSD and served in the Australian Army in Vietnam.If you check out the VVCS or Vietnam Veterens Counselling Service in Western Australia(definately),you will find alot of information on how they are helping Australian Vietnam Veterens deal with the associated mental and physiacl problems.If you wish to explore further you will other related topics such as,the effect on the children of veterans,and the extensive tests done on their health and their mental similarities taken from their parents.

== drug ==

i would like to know if you have any imformation about a drug for treating highblood pressure called LUOBUMA? And if it was approved by the FDA.

It looks like Luobuma is a tea extract, not a patented drug. See PMID 15516813 for an article on the antihypertensive effects. ] 22:19, 14 August 2005 (UTC)



== Unidentified anymal ==

]<br>
We think it's a ], but we're not sure. &mdash; ] ] 22:24, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

:LOL I think it's a ] or it could be a ] ] ] 22:27, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
::Radish, unless it's some variety of beet with which I'm not familiar . -- ] <small>]</small> 23:38, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
:::You're both right (Theresa with her first guess), of course. Unfortunately, the thumbnail makes it less appear like a narwhal. I was inspired by this: &mdash; ] ] 04:39, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

== What brand of tinfoil is best for making hats? ==

<nowiki>:-)</nowiki> ] 22:58, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

:My favorite brand is ''Illuminati Foil''. Be sure the hat's trilateral.... - ] 23:02, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

:Always go for the best -- . ] 20:46, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

== bluestatbanner ==

would like to have wone

: You would like a ]? I think you need to look at noting that if you haven't got someone in your family serving in the US armed forces, it might be seriously frowned upon. ]|] 23:29, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

::See ] ] 22:53, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

== Another C++ Question ==

Okay I have Visual C++.NET 8 (2005 Express). I want to know if the syntax here differs from any in Visual C++ 6 (for which my dad has many books). If it does, can you point me to some useful books/info. about it (to learn it -- I am starting from almost-scratch, btw)? Also, how come I never see books on VC++.NET? I always see them on VB.NET or just .NET framework. &mdash; ] ] 02:12, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:Also, can I still use MFC in VC++.NET 8, or am I forced to use CLR? &mdash; ] ] 03:14, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:VC++6 is quite different from VC++.Net and you should get yourself a new book, or use microsoft's free online website . I think you can still use MFC, but if you're a beginner, forget it and use .NET - its a lot easier and has nearly all the same functions. ] 12:17, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::The problem is I can't find a book specifically on C++.NET &mdash; ] ] 15:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

::: If I'm not mistaken all code that compiles under VC++ 6.0 should also compile under VC++.NET, including MFC. I would advice to start with console applications, until you are more adapt at C++ or be prepared to face an horrible time of compile errors, null pointer exceptions and stuff that mysteriously doesn't work. If you want to create UI applications I suggest learning Java. Java is much easier to learn and going from Java to C++ is a much smaller step than diving into C++ directly. --] 17:38, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:One reason you may not see so many books in particular versions of Visual C++ is that they are, at heart, just C++. There are lots of books on C++. It would be wise to learn completely standard C++ in any case, rather than ''first'' learn any Microsoft differences. On the other hand Visual Basic is both a product ''and'' a language. ] 13:52, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

==Birth date?==
] (1764-1853), French politician, was born at Caen on the '''57th of November 1764'''. He began a career in the army in 1778.

Seems a bit unlikely. ] 03:12, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
*I first expected it to be sneaky vandalism, but the typo seems to have been there from the start. I've contacted the original author and ask them to correct it. - ]|] 05:39, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
:I suspect it was a scanno from the ''1911'' but from a quick google I couldn't find any with a correct data. ] 13:21, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
::Fixed, it, I think, but see the article's talk page. ] 15:17, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

== Poe Poems - To ___________? ==

This might be a stupid question but I have always wondered why some of Poe's poems appear in published books entitled "To _______" or "To F_______s S. O________d" or a published letter of his is always called "Letter to B______". Are these "censored" for a reason? Were those parts of the title not readable and therefore the underscore is substituted? (The latter seems most unlikely). Is there another reason entirely for the "mystery?" (I know we are dealing with Poe here afterall =)

I posted this before with no response - so if you can't help out, can you at least respond saying that you have no idea and that my puzzlement isn't entirely silly? Thank you very much. --] 03:32, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

:It was answered. Perhaps you missed the response, which was along the lines of "at the time, it was traditional to obscure the identities of living persons in published books by indicating only their initials followed by an underscore. Poe was trying to enhance the verisimilitude of his fiction by applying a convention used for living persons to fictional characters.". The titles were intentional, not censored or illegible. - ] 03:45, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:I could've sworn I've seen this answered before - did you try looking in the archive? That said, I have discovered that some answers (on other subjects) that I have posted here before did not show up, yet appear on my list of user contributions! (I'll have to ask the ] about that one.) ] 03:44, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

I answered it on July 23 as follows: ''This was not Poe being idiosyncratic, nor were the titles censored by an editor or anyone else. It was common in the 19th century to refer to a real person mentioned in a literary work by only an initial. Presumably it was considered a matter of delicacy or reserve or preservation of privacy. Names were used in news despatches or frankly biographical or historical accounts. The extreme was reached in the fiction of the latter 19th century, when many authors, especially in Europe, began referring to fictional characters as, for example, "S___" in order to amplify the verisimilitude that a real person was being alluded to. You can find many examples in Russian and French novels all the way to the early 20th century. ] 09:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)''

Thank you so much everyone for your responses! I apologize Alteripse, TresArboles, and Nunh-huh - I must have missed the response and when I tried to look back I could have sworn I did not see a response had been made. Thank you so very much, yet again - Misplaced Pages Reference Desk to the rescue! =) --] 05:33, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

== Webster (TV Series) question ==

Can anyone remember the plot of the episode 28 "Moving Out" of the TV show Webster. I recall that the family moves into a new house and discover secret passageways? Particularly, why were the passageways there, and what was up with the little girl (possible the ghost of the daughter of the old owners of the house). In particular, please explain the scene where Webster finds the girl in the passageway. I can't remember what the deal was. Google is no use. I really would appreciate any help.

: to see if it answers your questions. --] 04:38, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

''I posted this last month when this question appeared before. It has since been placed the July II archive. ] 17:52, August 19, 2005 (UTC)''
:Oh, it's been so long since I've seen Webster. They had to move out of their apartment because Webster set it on fire--he'd been playing with his chemistry set when George and Katherine told him not too and he hid it in his closet. The couple they moved in with had a daughter who had run away and not been seen for a decade or two. The father had built the passages for his daughter--one went from behind the grandfather clock in the parlor up to her room, as I recall--and they had kept the passages and her room exactly as is all these years. Why they wanted tenants, I don't recall but it's been at least a decade since I've seen Webster. ] 19:24, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

== Colored spots in the dark ==

What is the name of those colored spots and patterns you see before your eyes in the dark, or when you close your eyes? I don't mean floaters.
:Perhaps you're looking for ]? -- ] <small>(])</small> 04:24, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
::Or maybe ]s... ] ] 04:54, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking maybe they're phosphenes, but the article states that their only source is by pressing on your eyes or getting hit on the head. I regularly see moving grids of violet and blue polka dots, as well as red dots, if I close my eyes for a while or stare off into the dark when I'm going to sleep. I can usually only see them in my peripheral vision; if I try to focus on them they disappear. Is this the same thing?
::::I've always understood them to be phosphenes. I get that too where you have a display of colors in your eyes with your eyes closed in a dark room. I've also heard that it has something to do with the blood vessels in your eyelids putting minute pressures on your eyeball. ] 05:54, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

== tennis ==

have any australians been seeded number one in the world since 2000

:Yes, ] was ranked number 1 in 2001. See his ATP player profile . The highest ranking Australian woman of recent years is ], with a highest ranking of number 8 in February this year. --] 07:08, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

==American names unpopular in the UK==
In regard to the Simon question, are there any American names that are not popular in the UK? Names like "Billy Bob" or "Suzie Mae" don't count. =) ] | ] 06:06, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:The most obvious one to me is "Chuck" - I know of no native English people with this name. Also (whatever) Junior is much less popular this side of the Atlantic than in the USA. ] 08:26, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::Neither of those are really names (in general use). Chuck is just a variant nickname for Charles, and the origin of "Junior" should be obvious. -- ]|] 08:37, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:::My comment about Junior was that calling someone e.g. Charles Junior or William Junior is much less common in England than in the US. ] 10:46, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:Randy would not be a good name in New Zealand, or I suspect other Commonwealth countries. Here it means the same thing as "horny". There are also a number of American names which have surprised me - for example I corresponded with someone about business for quite sometime before I realised that Ruby was a male name. In general, gemstones are female names.-] 08:41, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::"Ruby" an American male name? I think that would surprise most Americans. Maybe it was "Rudy" (#359 on the list). ] 15:05, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:::I think it was a contraction of Reuben.-] 03:31, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:I believe Hank (another stereotypical American name) is short for Henry, which is widely used in the UK. Scanning through the , the first ones that strike me as not used in the UK (other than Hispanic names such as Jose and Juan) are indeed Randy (#78 in the US), Jesse (#89, and probably because 'jessie' is an insult in the UK) and Earl (#98). Oh, and Willie (#61) - probably because 'willy' is a children's word for the penis. Some aren't anywhere nearly as widely used, such as Jerry, Brandon and Clarence. Shockingly, Chip isn't one of the 1219 most popular names in the U.S. And Buck is only 1205th. This is contrary to the British stereotype fo Americans. ]<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</small> 09:10, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::In general, gemstones are female names, I would think... Along those lines, I once knew a male "Bernice" which here in the states is commonly a female name. ] 10:21, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:::"Willy" means that here, too. I have no idea why parents persist in giving it as a name to their children. It's not a very common name, though. It's occasionally used as a nickname, but I don't actually ''know'' anyone with that name. A lot of the names that have come up are like that&mdash;the youngest "Hank" I know has a son in his 20s. is a good reference for names that currently being given. -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 17:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::::] is English, but don't know how common the name is. Short for William, of course. ] 18:53, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:::::*My great-grandfather's actual name was Willie, which is what the VA used when they supplied his grave marker. ] 17:55, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
:"Elmer" is the one that comes immediately to mind: the only Elmer I've ever come across is ]. "Homer" always used to be utterly American as well, but I wonder whether ] might have changed that just a little, though I don't recall ever meeting a British Homer.
::I was going to say that "Elmer" is a name that's hardly seen anymore.. but then I was shocked by its appearance in the list at #218! This is a name that brings to mind a 70-year old farmer wearing overalls (sorry Elmers). ] 15:18, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:::Note that this isn't a list of "popular boy's names", it's a list of names currently in use - so if the name was very popular fifty, sixty, seventy years ago and then fell out of favour, it'll still show up quite prominently because most of the people with it are still alive. ] 15:38, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::::Some of those Elmers may be in hiding. I remember a teacher who used his initials instead of Elmer - and this was over twenty years ago. ] 16:47, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:::::Please, please, please tell me tha parents aren't honestly naming their children after Homer Simpson. -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 17:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:African Americans often use names which are hardly ever used by other populations. I don't think blacks in other countries would use these names either; in France, for example, don't they use the same French names as other Frenchmen? Do a Google search on "black names" for articles like or for an intro to the topic. ] 16:47, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

== Can I make my own template? ==

I want to make a little template of my own to use on my user page. Is there any way I can do this without adding it to the pile of Misplaced Pages templates? ]
*Yes, you can include subpages of your user space the same way you can include templates. Make a page (for example: ]). You can then include this template anywhere by using <nowiki>{{User:CanadaGirl/Template}} to include a link to the template which will refresh at every load or {{subst:User:CanadaGirl/Template}}</nowiki> to insert the text that's there at the moment of the save. BTW, please sign your posts on talk pages (like this one) with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). - ]|] 07:21, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

*Be aware that userspace templates do not refresh the way standard templates do. For example, if you create template X in your userspace and add it to page Z, when you make a change to template X, page Z will continue to display it the way it was before the change, unless you manually purge the server cache or edit page Z. You can manually purge the server cache by clicking the "edit" like and changing the "edit" ending in the address bar to "purge." Also, after doing so, you can copy the URL from the address bar and create a link for easy access. I use a userspace template to include a status indicator on my user/talk pages, and I have shortcut links on the templates' talk page. See here: ] and ]. This is not necessary with templates in the Template: namespace, as they are set to automatically purge server cache whenever they are altered. -- ] · ] 07:31, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
**Alternatively, you can insert <nowiki>{{purge|Refresh}}</nowiki> somewhere on page Z to have a link to clear the cache. This makes it a little easier, IMO. --] <small>] ] ]</small> 13:52, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
***However, if you are only going to use the template in one place (on your user page), there is not much point in making it a template. -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 17:45, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

== Motor Racing - Reverse Grid ==

Are there any premier class (i.e. top level) racing forms around the world that use the concept of reverse grid (where the finishing order of the previous race/session is reversed for the start of the next race)? The ] of touring car racing in Australia does, but is it an unfeasible idea for the top racing classes? --] 06:52, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:I suspect that doing this would result in a whole lot of fast cars trying very hard to pass a whole lot of slow cars, all at once at the start of the race, which would probably result in a very high accident rate. ] 20:14, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:V8 Supercar proper tried it at a number of events in the past few years, where one of three sprint races over the weekend was reverse-gridded. It was not popular with drivers. --] 00:28, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:I believe it's done sometimes on three-race events in the ], though I have a feeling that only the top ten are reversed, not the entire grid. ] (]) 09:13, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

== Quick question on conversion ==

The volume of bismuth is 15,598,531 pm<sup>3</sup> or 15µm<sup>3</sup> right?
:Depends on how much bismuth there is. But the conversion above is wrong: 15,598,531 pm<sup>3</sup> is actually about 0.015 nm <sup>3</sup> or only about 0.000000000015 µm<sup>3</sup>. For cubed units, the conversion factors are also cubed - this means that a factor of one thousand becomes a factor of one milliard (or one billion for Yankees). ] | ] 09:53, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::Well thank you very much, I was meaning the volume of bismuth assuming it is a sphere and using it's atomic radius.

:::One more question, 1 cm<sup>3</sup> = 1 x 10<sup>-33</sup> pm<sup>3</sup> ?
::::Sorry the other way around 1 pm<sup>3</sup> = 1 x 10<sup>-33</sup> cm<sup>3</sup>
:::::Well, 1 pm<sup>3</sup> = 10<sup>-36</sup> m<sup>3</sup>, and 1 cm<sup>3</sup> = 10<sup>-6</sup> m<sup>3</sup>, so 1 pm<sup>3</sup> = 10<sup>-30</sup> cm<sup>3</sup>. ] | ] 10:29, 15 August 2005 (UTC)



== ]a ==

Dear Misplaced Pages,

I need reference on the RSK Dinara.The RSK has fallen according to your info.What happens if I own a RSK dinara banknote?Can I exchange it for a valid currency?Thank you.I appreaciate any information that you can help with this.

:I highly doubt that you can exchange these, except as souvenirs. The ] used either the ] or the Deutchmark alongside the RSK dinar because of hyperinflation issues. The RSK issued the ] (HRKR), in parallel with the Yugoslav Reformed Dinar in July 1992, then the ] (HRKO), first issued on October 1, 1993 and equal to 1,000,000 Reformed Dinar, and the ] Dinar, first issued on January 1, 1994 and equal to 1,000,000,000 October Dinar. Your best bet would be to sell what you have on ebay to currency collectors. ] 15:28, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:Agreed. RSK dinars have no value except as collectible items. A paper currency must have a recognised authority behind it in order to have value (usually a government, or some other trusted organisation e.g. the Scottish banks today, or in the hyperinflation times, local communities in Germany). The RSK government was destroyed in 1995, and even when it existed it had little success in maintaining its currency's value (see Trollderella's figures above). -- ] 16:53, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

== Getting LaTeX equations to line up ==

(I'm sorry I keep asking LaTeX questions here - I haven't yet found a latex forum where people are as nice and helpful as here)

I'm trying to get three equations lined up. Normally, I'd use an array, but these equations already use arrays. I've tried nesting them, but haven't managed to get anything to work yet.

How would I get the following equations to line up with the equals signs one on top of the other?

<nowiki>\
\[D_i(t) = \left\{
\begin{array}{l l}
\frac{|F_i(t) - F_i(t - 1)|}{F_i(t - 1)} & \quad \mbox{: $F_i(t - 1) > 0$}\\
0.05 & \quad \mbox{: otherwise}\\ \end{array} \right.\]
\[Q_i(t) = \left\{
\begin{array}{l l l}
\alpha \frac{D_i(t)}{\sum_{j} D_j(t)} + (1 - \alpha) & \frac{F_i(t)}{\sum_{j}F_j(t)} & \quad \mbox{: $\sum_{j} D_j(t) > 0$}\\
& \frac{F_i(t)}{\sum_{j}F_j(t)} & \quad \mbox{: otherwise}\\ \end{array} \right.\]
</nowiki>

(Raw code shown since I can't get Misplaced Pages to parse it...)

Any help really appreciated! Thanks very much, --Mary

:You should be able to do it with nesting arrays. Just make sure you work out whether math tags go inside or outside the array. The following works for me:
<nowiki>\[
\begin{array}{l l}
F_i(t) = & \mbox{field of source $i$ at time $t$}\\
D_i(t) = & \left\{
\begin{array}{l l}
\frac{|F_i(t) - F_i(t - 1)|}{F_i(t - 1)} & \quad \mbox{: $F_i(t - 1) > 0$}\\
0.05 & \quad \mbox{: otherwise}\\ \end{array} \right.\\
Q_i(t) = & \left\{
\begin{array}{l l l}
\alpha \frac{D_i(t)}{\sum_{j} D_j(t)} + (1 - \alpha) & \frac{F_i(t)}{\sum_{j}F_j(t)} & \quad \mbox{: $\sum_{j} D_j(t) > 0$}\\
& \frac{F_i(t)}{\sum_{j}F_j(t)} & \quad \mbox{: otherwise}\\ \end{array} \right.\\
\end{array}
\]
</nowiki>
:That should be what you were looking for. &mdash; ] | ] ] 14:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Great, that works! Thanks! Final question: When I use hyphens in LaTeX within a word, like "twenty-three", LaTeX pushes the second word into the hyphen, so that they overlap. What can I do to prevent this? I'm using <tt>\usepackage{palatino}</tt> and compiling straight to pdf using <tt>pdflatex</tt> (as I use png's in my document). Any help? --Mary

: There is a similar problem that occured only when viewing the docuemnt with Gostscript 7. Upgrading to version 8 or using Arcobat Reader should resolve it. --] 17:19, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

::Ah, that works! Thanks, --Mary

== maximum amount of work hours ==

I would greatly appreciate any information that u have with respect to the maximum amount of hours that a person is allowed to work for any period (24 hours, 1 week or 1 month).
If there is an international standard or a specific one for the country i am in, which is trinidad and tobago, this will greatly help me and my fellow employees.
Thanking u in advance for your assistance in this matter.

Sincerely,
S. Boodoo

:i think it would be wise for you to contact your local union rep on this matter. this links has info different unions and general information on working safety. ] 15:01, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
http://nugfw.org.tt/LabourLinks/trinidad_tobago_labourlinks.htm

::In the ], the maximum is 48 hours per week, although certain countries still have a law where you can volunteer to opt out of this. You might also like to look at ]. ]<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</small> 15:05, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:Given the EU regulations, I've long been curious about the position of a person who chooses to take two jobs, totalling more than 48 hours. Is this (a) perfectly fine (b) a breach of regulations by the employee, who isn't supposed to do this (c) a breach of regulations by the employers, who are supposed to be diligent about this or (d) none of the above? ] 19:52, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

I know for a fact there is no overall standard in the US at least. There was a big change when medical doctor resident training programs set work hours standards and reduced the hours they could work to average 80 a week and 30 hours straight (How generous of them). I know for a fact some programs still regularly exceed this and some have already lost their accredidation for it. - ] <sup><small>]</sup></small> 20:08, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

There is no federal maximum at all in the United States, though for most positions, you must pay time and a half for everything past 40 hours. A list of exempt employees is available . I recall that if you are in a position that is on call for 24 hours a day, you must have 24 hours off in a row every week, but I can't seem to find anything about that on the DOL website. This is far less strict than the EU, which requires

#a minimum daily rest period * of 11 consecutive hours per 24-hour period;
#a rest break, where the working day is longer than six hours;
#a minimum uninterrupted rest period of 24 hours for each seven-day period, which is added to the 11 hours' daily rest;
#maximum weekly working time of 48 hours, including overtime;
#paid annual leave of at least four weeks.

says the commission recommends making it possible to opt-out of the maximum. ] 08:00, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

==English pronunciation==
Is it true that native English pronunication lacks an /e/ sound at the end of the word? At least from what I've heard of native English speakers, if they try to pronounce an "e" at the end of the word "as it is written" (e.g. in German or Latin) they always turn it into either /ei/ or a schwa. I've had enough conversations with native German speakers (at ], for example), understanding them and getting understood myself, to know that Germans pronounce a final "e" as /e/, like we Finns do. I suppose native English speakers could do this with practice in foreign languages, but is there a more "Englishy" way? ] | ] 16:26, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:''Which'' "e sound at the end of the word"? To my English-trained ears, the German final ''e'' sounds pretty much like a schwa (but shorter), so I imagine that's how it is likely to come out. Latin final ''e'' sounds different to me, but I mostly know "church Latin", which does tend to make it more of an "ei" for singing purposes. -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 17:20, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::The same /e/ sound as in English "pet", I think. In Finnish, Estonian and Swedish at least, they're pronounced identically. I agree that it's more like a schwa in German, but not as much as in English. And certainly not /ei/. ] | ] 18:19, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:::I would never say never, but I can't think of a single word ending in e where the e is pronounced as in pet. It is a general rule taught in phonics classes that the e is silent alltogether in most words ending in e. Otherwise, it would normally be pronouced as the letter is said (as the "ie" in Liebe is pronounced in German), as in icee. The primary function of the terminal e in English seems to be to mark that the preceeding vowel should be lengthened. So, it is "at," (as in bat) but "ate" (as in eight). ] 08:47, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
::::I agree with you about the English words. But my question was, can native English speakers pronounce the final e as /e/ in pet in '''foreign''' words? ] | ] 09:17, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:::Native English speakers have the same mouth, tongue etc as speakers of other languages so of course they ''can'' pronounce final or any other phone. What exactly are you trying to ask? Of course some English speakers have trouble picking up sounds not present in English, but that's a commonplace of learning foreign languages. ] 13:21:56, 2005-08-16 (UTC) P.S. In some accents, the English word "eh" is pronounced /e/.
::::I'm not asking whether it's physically possible for them to do so. Of course it is. I'm asking whether they '''know''' how to pronounce the final /e/ in foreign languages correctly, without specia pronunciation training. What I've heard and seen of native English speakers hints to the contrary. I've even seen someone write ''per se'' as ''per say''. ] | ] 13:47, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:::No, English speakers do not magically know how to pronounce foreign words! They have to go to foreign languages classes. (However, "per se" is in fact pronounced like "per say" in English so what you see is merely a spelling error, not evidence of wrong pronunciation.)
::::I guess I worded my reply badly. Of course they don't magically know how to pronounce it correctly if they don't know how it's supposed to be pronounced. What I meant was after they've heard a foreign speaker pronounce it correctly, or seen the pronunication in written form. Without having a dedicated phonology tutor teach them to round their lips and flex their tongue in just the right way... a little bit more... no, that's too much... no, no /i/ sound... a little less like a schwa... that's good. ] | ] 14:45, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:::Terminal /e/ is quite easy for English speakers to learn (since English has medial /e/). In foreign-language classes I've been in, I'd say 80% of students get it straight away and everyone gets it in the end. Other phones can be much harder. ] 14:00:03, 2005-08-16 (UTC)
::::Part of the problem with "per se" vs. "per say" is that people are generally unaware that the phrase is actually Latin and assume that the word must be "say," since it is, obviously enough, a word in English. ] 23:35, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
:::But "per se", as used by English speakers, is an English phrase. Of course it has a Latin origin, but so does half of English vocabulary. It retains its Latin spelling but it has an English pronunciation. ] 20:42:18, 2005-08-17 (UTC)

::::It's not pronounced as in "pet", but the final e in "furore" is a bit of an exception to the usual rules. (It's pronounced as three syllables in British English; we don't use "furor".) ] (]) 09:17, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

As a note not specifically about terminal e sounds, it is extremely difficult for someone of any original language to properly say a vowel sound that does not exist in their language once they've become toddlers or so. This is why Americans are incredibly bad at German umlauts and many of the French vowel sounds. They have simply lost the innate ability to make the sounds. With hard work, it is possible to train oneself to say it correctly, however. The e sound as in pet does exist in English, so it is possible for English speakers to say it, as long as they're aware that's how it's supposed to be pronounced. That being said, I think if you gave people a word in German that ended in e, say Liebe, told them the final e was pronounced and asked them to say it, they would use a schwa. ] 23:35, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
:This is a good explanation. It verifies both what was answered above (English speakers can pronounce the final e correctly) and what I originally suspected (they usually turn it into a schwa if they haven't practiced it). I can handle the French and German vowels just fine, but the Swedish "<s>u</s>" sound (halfway between /u/ and /y/) and the Estonian "õ" sound elude me. I don't know how to pronounce them. For consonants, I am hopeless with the English "th". ] | ] 13:18, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure that final usually turns into in English. Maybe that happens for words from German, but for Japanese loanwords it seems to become . For example '']'', in Japanese, becomes in English; the placename ] becomes in English. ] 15:28:33, 2005-08-18 (UTC)
:Yes, but that's because you're pronouncing them as if they were English words, in that case. My question was about trying to pronounce the words in their "native languages". ] | ] 16:45, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
On the other hand, some Japanese endings become , for example ] becomes and ] becomes . ] 19:02:03, 2005-08-18 (UTC)

:Everything above assumes a Received Pronunciation of English. To my southern English ears, there are some northern English dialects that end words with something like the ''e'' as in ''pet''. Imagine ] (Lancashire) saying "hungry", or ] in '']'' saying "telly". --] 20:56, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Identification of a nonfiction Pocket Book by Asimov. ==

I am attempting to identify a book I obtained circa 1970s, then lost.
Its was Asimov's inventory of great innovations in the Western World starting from about 3000 BC.
If I remember correctly, it documented about 1800 innovations worthy of the catalog.
Please help.
charliet

Asimov's Biographical Encyclopedia of Science and Technology? Published in 1972. What do you want to know? ] 17:06, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

== Carbon monoxide: Lighter than air? ==

I'm mounting carbon monoxide detectors in my boat. Typically, the average ambient temperature is 85 degrees farenhite and the altitude is 357 feet above mean sea level. Do I mount the detectors high or low in the boat, i.e., is the CO lighter or heavier than the air in the vessel?
:A very similar question is asked . The basic answer is that you should position the sensor in a place where you can hear it and where you can anticipate the possiblity of a CO leak. This is because air and CO have very similar densities, and normal air currents and entropy in general will encourage mixing. I would imagine it applies to your situation as well, of course not being a physicist in any sense of the word, I can't say with 100% confidence that your temperature and pressure measurements will not matter, but they don't seem all that extreme. --] 16:52, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

::Fixed carbon monoxide detectors should be mounted at head height or slightly higher. Carbon monoxide is very slightly lighter than air (whatever the temperature and altitude), but not so much so as to cause pockets to form under normal circumstances (mixing is usually very efficient). More important is to mount the sensor where it will not receive splashes of liquid (particularly oil or alcohol). Most industrial detectors are set at around 30-50 ppm, depending on the country (probably 50 ppm in the US, as this is the ]): this gives a good safety margin for sleeping, as it is set to avoid problems with long term exposure. Check with the supplier of the detector to see whether it needs recalibrating from time to time. ] 01:25, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:Just to reiterate what CVaneg and Physchim62 have said, consider the following. For ideal gases (and nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon monoxide under atmospheric conditions are pretty darn close to "ideal" behavior), the density of a gas at a given temperature and pressure is directly proportional to the molecular weight of the gas. The molecular weight of carbon monoxide (28.010) is virtually identical to the molecular weight of nitrogen gas (28.014). Oxygen gas has a notably higher molecular weight (31.998), and yet the oxygen in the atmosphere doesn't separate out from the nitrogen and sink to the ground! If the difference between oxygen and nitrogen isn't enough to cause a separation under atmospheric conditions, the difference between carbon monoxide and a nitrogen-oxygen mixture certainly isn't, either. ] 17:02, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

== Satalite Photos ==
Does anyone know where I could find hi-res satalite photos of the NYC tri state area, minus any type of water marking or pixelation? so not google, and not blue marble, something hi res, and close up -- '''anon'''
:] maybe? Alternatively, depending on what you're looking for, the ] has some other alternatives. ,

== What is the code for a random number generator in C++? ==

I need the code for a program... it needs to be able to make digits 0-9. Thank you. ] 18:36, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:Look up the <code>rand()</code> function. Here's a sample:
<pre>
#include <cstdlib>
#include <ctime>
#include <iostream>

int main() {
std::srand(std::time(NULL));
std::cout << (std::rand() % 10) << std::endl;
return 0;
}
</pre>
:~~ ''']''' (]/]) 18:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

::Corrected your code. Changed a "9" to a "10" so that it really generates numbers from 0 to 9. ] ] 19:26, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:Doesn't rand() still use a horrible RNG? (I don't have the code handy to check) Maybe it's better now, but depending on your purpose, if you need really good random numbers you may want to look at the ] or if crypto is the issue, ].

:rand(), in my experience, generates the same pattern or numbers when given the same seed. Also, you can put <code>using namespace std;</code> after the #includes instead of putting std:: before every function.

== What do I need to host a website from home? ==

What type of server and ISP would I need? Thanks! ] 18:40, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:you need ]. then you either need an ISP who doesn't block incoming traffic on port 80, or you'll only be able to host a website on a specified port (url along the lines of http://8888:yourdomain.com ) ] <small>]</small> 18:43, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::You don't need dyndns if your ISP can assign a fixed IP for you. However, not all of them can, and even those who can usually charge extra for it. And that's http://yourdomain.com:8888 and not http://8888:yourdomain.com . ] | ] 18:46, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
:::You still need some sort of DNS service, and dyndns provides free static DNS too. ~~ ''']''' (]/]) 18:48, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::Some ISPs block anything that looks like an HTTP request. If you don't need to operate the server yourself, it would really be better to use your ISP's webspace or a free third-party service. And, just so you don't get terminated, check with your ISP for their policy on running a server. ~~ ''']''' (]/]) 18:48, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

:So to sum up:
::You need an ISP that will allow you to run a server
::You may need ] for sanity reasons
::You need a server (software), like ]
:&brvbar; ] 20:56, 2005 August 15 (UTC)

:…And, of course, you'd need a computer running 24/7 to serve the stuff, and if it's gonna be a busy site you'll need a fast connection. Home serving is probably more trouble than it's worth, especially for amateurs; I would suggest going with a hosting company. I can recommend one if you'd like. ] 22:56, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
::Would it happen to be your own? </winks> --] 07:31, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:::The one I use, yes, but not one I own. ] 06:22, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

==DPRK cartoons==
As both an ] freak and a ] watcher, I couldn't help but download an some . I've only downloaded "Boy general (part 4)" so far, as whatever server is hosting these files is ridiculously slow (and the sound in the file is a bit corrupted as well)… Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised with the quality of the production; with its orchestral music and lack of ], it was on par with the old WB theatrical shorts, but at "episode" length. I'm curious if anyone knows more about these productions, especially when they were made (as they seem to be lacking a date) and what their plots are. ] 22:56, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

== crude oil - barrel ==

How much gasoline, kerosene, diesel, paraffin, or other extractant can one get from a single barrel of oil? In other words, when I use a gallon of gasoline, am I using up a gallon of crude oil? anon.

:A quick google search revealed well-illustrated page. Finished motor gasoline (I'm not sure if that includes diesel or not) is 51.4% of the total, according to that page. ] ] 01:29, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

::It does not. Diesel is included under "distillate fuel oil". -- ]|] 04:17, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:::Thanks, Cyrius. :) I should also mention that the site where the 51.4% number comes from is specific to ] (although I would guess the number doesn't differ that much from place to place) and it comes from a total slightly larger than a barrel of crude oil, because of the extra stuff they add in the process. Check out the link I give above for details. ] ] 04:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

::::It will change a lot from place to place.] 10:45, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:Great page. Also worth noting is that from straight distillation of crude oil, the percentages would be very different from those on that page. The reason is that since gasoline is in much higher demand than diesel and other fuel oils, a lot of ] is done to break up the larger chains into ones more compatible with gasoline. See ] for details. So different demand profiles, such as in Europe, may yield a quite different profile. Also, crude itself varies so those numbers carry ''way'' too much precision if you think of them as anything other than a reporting of one years average refining results from CA. Still, the numbers are great for the purpose of the original question, to get a general idea of the amounts. - ] <sup><small>]</sup></small> 12:59, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

== Inhibiting a redox reaction using electrolysis ==


Hello, Hello,
I'm trying to inhibit a redox reaction using electrolysis. The redox equation is shown below:
:2I<sup>-</sup> &rarr; I<sub>2</sub> + 2e<sup>-</sup>
:2e<sup>-</sup> + S<sub>2</sub>O<sub>8</sub><sup>2-</sup> &rarr; 2S<sub>2</sub>O<sub>4</sub><sup>2-</sup>
My hypothesis is:
*The Iodide loses electrons to gain a net positive charge, and will be attracted to the negative electrode.
*The Persulfate will gain electrons to gain a net negative charge, and will be attracted to the positive electrode.
*The separation of reactants will lead to a lowered reaction rate.

Is this correct?
*Probaby true, but you'd need to stir to get a good reaction rate in the first place. I'd use a limited supply of 2I<sup>-</sup>. Things aren't going to react if there's no electrons from the Iodine to react with. - ]|] 04:53, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

:This looks like a half cell reation. Would the forward rate of reaction be reduced if the cell were driven in "reverse"? --] 04:58, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

== Semi trucks ==

Why do semi trucks have the prefix "semi" in front of it?
Andrea

:] explains that the trailer is known as a "semi trailer" because it carries only half of its weight -- the other half is carried by the power unit, or the tractor. The entire thing is known as a "truck", and calling it a "semi truck" indicates that it includes a semi-trailer. This is as opposed to, for example, a "straight truck", which has no trailer. ] ] 00:57, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

== What is tree-level mass? ==

Quote: neutrino has zero tree-level mass

what "tree-level" means, in layman lingo?
My guess is that this has something to do with Pertubative Expansion
(1-level (1st-order), 2-level (2nd order), 3-level (3rd order) aproximations, corrections) and that the author had made a ] (...or not).

Can some one give-me a clue? Even if you dont have expertise at the field, I would apreciate your answer (any answer).

:Your hunch is basically correct. In quantum field theory, many models must be ] in order to make physical sense. When you renormalize, you change some of the physical parameters of the theory (like mass or coupling constant). Quantities in field theory are usually calculated perturbatively, meaning you first look at the Feynman diagrams with no loops (this is tree level). If you only consider tree level diagrams, there are no divergences and so renormalization is not necessary, but tree level diagrams do not have access to a lot of the interesting physics (nonperturbative effects). When one considers one loop diagrams, there may be divergent integrals which must be renormalized. So the theory you get when considering one loop diagrams might have mass, even though the classical theory and tree level theory was massless. If the theory is renormalizable, then you don't have to renormalize again, though you can get modifications to your mass at higher order diagrams. -] | ] 03:33, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
::It's worth noting that the most commonly accepted model of neutrino mass assigns nonzero tree level mass, though the zero tree level mass has its fans. -] | ] 03:50, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

== Finding address ==


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am in search of a two persons in Singapore, they are Indians and are working through Employment Visa mode, for neary 4 years.Have lost track of them and wish to know their contact addresses.Their names are C.Chandrika and K.K. Chandarashekaran.

Thanking you,

S.Thara.

:Have you tried the telephone directory for Singapore? ] 15:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

==Pocket Misplaced Pages==
I was wondering if there are any programs that can simulate Misplaced Pages's particular implementation of the MediaWiki software, but fit in one or two 1.4" floppies?

My online computer time is limited, but I want to be able to write full articles from scratch and see how they would look (and thus check for coding errors, ugliness, etc.) before I add them to Misplaced Pages.

Additionally, it'll have to work on Windows 2000.

Is there anything that can do this? ] 07:53, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:I remember reading somewhere about a ] - MediaWiki can fit onto a tiny USB keydrive, but I don't remember where that was written. --] 10:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
::I'm aware of 'stick Wikis', but they're larger than I need, and more than I need... I don't need something that will actually host a Wiki, just make one page that looks like a Wiki given X source code. Maybe metawiki support as well, 'z I'm trying to update ]. ] 20:07, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:For that, all you really need is an editor that ]s the Mediawiki markup. I should think that would be easy to do, but I don't know if it has been done, and I'm not qualified to do it. I recall other people asking the same thing, but I don't recall if there was an answer. I would like to use it also if available though. - ] <sup><small>]</sup></small> 12:45, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

To use it, wouldn't you need to have a server running that knows to check for pages on the floppy? &mdash; ] ] 20:11, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:Take a look at ] for a way of customising your favourite editor to accept MediaWiki syntax. You may also be interested in ].-] 04:57, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

There are certainly ways to solve this; ] is a 15 kilobyte javascript that parses wikisyntax. Adapting a webpage to use the script and the wikipedia stylesheets should make a package to preview wikipedia articles with a web browser that fits on one floppy and less. ] 00:13, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I put together a stan-alone previewer of Misplaced Pages syntax, using Pilaf's Live Preview.
Download it by right-clicking this link and saving as "Wikipreview.html" or similar: . The file is a 40 kilobyte web page that can be viewed and used with a web browser, but without requiring internet access. The preview is not perfect, but I think it works. ] 00:52, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Seagulls ==

Hi,
I was wondering if I could find out some '''positive ID''' on these seagull photos, and whether or not the color of their legs has anything to do with their age. Thanks! --] 09:38, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:Red legged seagulls.jpg
Image:Seagull on sale pier02.jpg
Image:Seagull on sale pier.jpg
Image:Yellow legged seagull.jpg
</gallery>

:Are these all from the east coast of ] again? (Not to be ] with ]...) -- ] ] 10:55, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
::They were all taken at ] Australia. --] 22:22, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

:It seems you've already identified them as ]s. &brvbar; ] 11:18, 2005 August 16 (UTC)
::Thats what I ''think'' they are, I'm hoping to get some reassurance --] 22:22, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
*The one on the right is George. I don't know the other seagulls. ;) - ]|] 11:40, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

== Chemistry question ==

An empirical formula can be written for copper(II) oxide but not a molecular formula. Why not?
*Because it is an ]ic substance. It is kept together by opposite charges instead of ]s. If it hasn't got a molecular bond, it's technically speaking not a molecule and therefore it can't have a molecular formula. - ]|] 11:37, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
**partially correct, except that in solution copper(II)oxide would probably complex with a counter ion, and form a ligand--] 16:08, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== What are the symptoms of appendicitis? ==

What are the symptoms of appendicitis?


:As I remember, (I was a lot younger back then!) ] starts with pain in the centre of the ], and spreads to the right hand side. Also ], and your side would be very tender. Must be caught earlier, as peritionitis (sp?) can occur, where the appendix bursts, so if you have a suspicion of appendicitis, get to your nearest doctor / hospital immediately. ]<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</small> 15:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

What are the symptoms of appendicitis?


:: peritonitis, I think ? Pretty much that, and also, the appendice should get somewhat hard and very painful to palpation. Rovsing's sign (pain felt in the right iliac fossa on pressing over the left iliac fossa) might be present. Typical intermediary symptoms include fever, tachycardia, distress, foetor oris. ] 15:53, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:::The Misplaced Pages Reference Desk is not a great place for medical diagnosis (and there are discliamers that say so). If you are experiencing major abdominal pain, and it's getting worse, not better, then by all means see a real doctor! I do know that appendicitis is very treatable, but the sooner it is treated, the better. (If it hasn't gotten any better by the time I'm typing this, then what are you doing on the computer?) -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 22:20, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
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== What are.. ==
there any ways to block people, not their ip, but to actually reslove it to a specific region or computer, and block ''them'' not their ip, would cut down on a lot of vandalism--] 15:45, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

::well, here's an idea, you could try NOT acusing every jo shmo anon of being part of ''the great wiki vandalism consipracy'' oh and, "''jello nurple yellow''" is NOT a font color -- ''']''' 12:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:As far as I know, the only way it would be possible to do this would be to go through their ISP and get them to take action. ] 17:24, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

What is the meaning of noticing?

:See . ] 19:44, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

== Edmund Lord Lyons, Admiral. G.C.B. 1790 - 1858 ==


I am interested in tracing a distant relative of mine, and not sure where to start.

Can you please give me any advice on where to go, websites to look up, to get details of Edmund Lyons Family Tree.

The only infomation I have been able to glean so far, is his achievments in life, but nothing on immediate family members.

Thank you for time in this matter, and appreciate any help and/or advice given.

Regards
Mrs Pauline Tilley
''email removed''

:Have you seen our article, ], which has lots of biographical details. For someone so distinguished, the in ] should be able to help, as well as the usual sources ( in ], etc: most of his life was before statutory BMD recording in England, but there are the early censuses and parish records, and his Navy career should be well documented in any event). -- ] ]

==Photos and the law==
At ], there's been a debate over whether to include photos, of, say, masturbation or similar subject matter. One issue that came up is whether or not hosting these images violates the law, since WP has no age verification system. Obviously, this isn't a request for formal legal advice--but are there any lawyers out there who could comment on this? Images in question include ] (woman with vibrator) and ] (man masturbating). Thanks in advance, ] ] 16:32, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

: I recollect that last time this issue was floated that it was deemed we were fine. I can't remember where that was, though... ] 17:58, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

::It's come up since on ]:
:::''...We could show full-blown mainstream pornography on the main page of Misplaced Pages 24 hours a day and not be in violation of any laws in the United States. It is pretty difficult to come up with something which is legally "obscene" by US standards in the context of Misplaced Pages. And our own internal processes seem so far quite adequate to keep us very far from that.'' - .

== Creation of Misplaced Pages ==

When was Misplaced Pages created? Is Misplaced Pages also the creator of ChemistryDaily.com? If so when was Chemistry Daily created? How can I see when a certain article was originally created.
Shannon L.

: For history, see the article ]. ChemistryDaily is one of the many mirrors that reuses wikipedia's content (and doesn't seem to comply with the terms of the ], so not a very ethical mirror). -- ] | ] 16:54, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

::And you can see when a certain article was initially created by clicking on the "history" link up at the top of the page. With some articles you have to go back pretty far. But every edit will be listed, including the initial creation of the article. ] 19:36, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

::To quickly find the page's first creation date, click on "Earliest" (after clicking "History"), then scroll all the way to the bottom. The bottom-most row will feature the page's original creation date.] 19:47, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

== altitude and temperature ==

Why does temperature decrease with an increase in altitude (in the troposphere of course) ? I found a mention of it in ]. It says the phenomenon is called ] but thats a red link. ] 18:08, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:Well, guessing from the name, I would say it has something to do with atmospheric pressure. The pressure is lower at high altitudes, and according to the ], as pressure goes down, temperature decreases as well. ] ] 18:16, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

The red link should have pointed to ] (it does now). However, I don't think this is correct (the ] in that section of ] look decidedly iffy to me), so I will try to do a quick explanation here. The troposphere is not heated directly by the sun: any radiation from the sun which can be absorbed by the atmosphere has already been filtered out in the thermosphere and (especially) the stratosphere. The troposphere is heated directly by the Earth's surface. The heating effect decreases as you move away from the Earth's surface, and so the temperature decreases. Anyone else want to fill out the vast simplifications I've made there? ] 00:48, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:Check out this neat graph here from the atmosphere article --] 01:23, 17 August 2005 (UTC) ]
:Maybe this might help answer part of the question? --] 01:23, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

::Not really, except to show that there is no relation between pressure (roughly proportional to mass density, especially given the log scale) and temperature for the Earth's atmosphere. Enlighten us, please, Happy Camper, I've known you more inspired ;P ] 01:59, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:::Was in a rush yesterday, see below... :) --] 10:23, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::Nice plot: you can really see the different layers in the temperature. I remember a particularly painful exam which included basically this question, but all it taught me is that you shouldn't expect people to learn anything new (like say whether expansive cooling alone can explain the observed temperature drop) in a high time pressure environment. --] | ] 07:26, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't really know much about the atmosphere, but I think one major contributor to the temperature inversion in the second layer (the stratosphere) is the presence of ozone at the bottom of it. Ozone is highest in concentration in this area. Its absorption of ultraviolet light is essentially dissipated as heat which I think rises away from the earth instead of sinking down to the earth. What I don't understand is how this causes the temperature to go up so significantly. Ozone must be dissipating a tremendous amount of energy! I'm not sure what happens at the top. I guess the temperature that is being plotted is the "kinetic temperature". The density of matter at that region is so low that this particular notion of temperature probably would be less meaningful. I guess what's really important to recognize is that the atmosphere is not at all homogeneous. I might also add that commercial airlines' flight routes will fly in the stratosphere because the air mass there is quite stable. --] 10:23, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::You're right about the contribution of ozone to stratospheric warming, although I would guess that oxygen and nitrogen play their part as well, at their particular absorption frequencies. What is clear is that N2 and O2 are not heated in the troposphere, as there is no longer any radiation of the correct wavelength. Yes, the ozone layer absorbs (and hence eventually dissipates) a tremendous amount of energy! Half of it is re-emitted towards the Earth's surface (the ]), half of it into space. And yes, I assume they are defining temperature in the upper atmosphere with regards to the speed distribution of the few gas molecules which are there. ] 02:00, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
:::Ooooh! Check this link out! All sorts of chemical species in the atmosphere here. --] 02:06, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== How does loss of green space affect ozone? ==

As we all know, green space produces oxygen and absorbs carbon dioxide.

I was wondering how the cycles of Fall's natural defoliation (loss of leaves and plants) and Spring (increase of leaves and plants), affects ozone and it's holes. Could the accumulative affects of Fall and Winter be showing up by Spring (slowed by cooler atmospheric temperatures), and therefore the affects of Spring's bounty be showing up by Summer (speeded up by warmer temps.)? Or is the dying off of the grasses, etc. in Summer's heat causing a problem?
Do these things affect the size of the ozone hole? And are they involved in the loss and increase of the atmosphere's ozone?

Human activities such as deforestation and development also decrease green space, thereby reducing its ability to produce oxygen
(eventually ozone? no?) and decrease carbon dioxide. This must affect the ozone layer I'm sure. Sort of a Catch22. By depleting the green space; our air space is depleted, by the very gas that the green space releases as it decays but also needs to survive. (see photosynthesis) Endangering our survival.

Signed Martina Herrick

*Easy, it doesn't, ozone has been around for many thousands of years, and no matter hw often you hear this on TV, human beings aren't exactly going to change that--] 18:59, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

::I'm not a climatologist, but I am chemically literate. Ozone is formed in the upper atmosphere when oxygen molecules (O2) are hit by UVc, forming O+O. The O, a free radical, readily attaches to another O2 molecule. Ozone depletion is caused by chemicals in the upper atmosphere which catalize the disintegration of O3 molecules. A decrease in global O2 concentration would have an effect on Ozone, but compared to the catalitic effect of Cl and Br compounds, it would seem to be relatively minor. If there were any decrease in global O2 concentration to the point that it would effect ozone, the first hint would be have massive algea blooms, I expect. But we'd all be dead, so don't worry about it.

::One MAJOR fallacy in what you wrote is that you confused temperature changes with the Ozone hole. These are two totally seperate things. Two relatively good wikipedia articles to read are ] and ] ] 19:15, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
:::If you say so--] 19:48, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
::::This is the reference desk, we help people answer questions. Please leave your politics at the door, thanks. --] ] 23:08, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

::The loss of green space does not significantly affect the levels of oxygen in the atmosphere, although it may contribute (slightly) to rise in carbon dioxide levels. If that seems illogical to you, don't forget that there is roughly 600 times more oxygen in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide. There is a hypothesis that climate change may worsen the Antarctic ozone hole (by changing the altitudes of formation of ice clouds), but for the moment it is no more than a (plausible) idea. ] 01:03, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:::This hypothesis about ice clouds is the result of some ongoing research detailing the kinetics behind the breakdown of ozone in the atmosphere. There is emperical evidence that the surface of the individual droplets which make up ice clouds act as a catalyst in the reaction...See for example . --] 10:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::::Actually, more precisely, as a ''reservoir''. But this effect is catalysed by the presence of ice. --] 10:31, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:The media often mixes up global warming/climate change (which has a strong connection to carbon dioxide, and an arguable connection to trees) with the ozone layer (which has no connection to any of these things). They are not significantly connected, or if they are the media never draws out this connection. ] 19:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== Windows XP & IR Control ==

Does anyone know where I can find a program for Windows XP which can receive the infrared commands sent to my infrared port (by a TV remote, for example), store them, and later on output them? Like control my TV with my laptop? There's many for the Palm/Pocket PC but not for Windows XP (most of the ones I find are for outdated win95 systems).

-- Logan

== Paddy wagon ==
<small>''This question was a question asked from a previously posted thread which has been archived''</small>

:I've been wondering for a while, and this post jogged my memory: what's a racially sensitive term for "]"? I seem to remember a toy marketed under that name back in the 80s, but I still worry I'll offend someone some day with that kind of term.--] 18:58, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

:Check out the ] article - Black Mariah, or police van seem likely candidates. ] 01:03, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== Australia down under ==

Why do they call Australia, "down under".

:My intuition would be that it is because Australia and New Zealand are the furthest south of any of the British colonies (parts of Australia and most of New Zealand are south of South Africa). Why its "down under" instead of just down is perhaps one of those things we'll never know. As an aside, the idiom was first used in print in 1886 in Oceana, volume 92. ] 02:59, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

:Well, if you look at a globe which is tilted to represent Earth's tilt, and turn the globe so that Europe is on "top," then Australia is "down under," is it not? ] 06:18, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:It is at the ] (the opposite side of the globe, for us with a ] bent). -- ] ] 16:16, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

If you live in the northern hemisphere and look at australia on an ordinary globe, isn't it pretty obvious? ] 13:02, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

==Question about Paris==
I'm looking for more information about a particular set of buildings in Paris, located at 14 rue Perree, in Arrondissement III. As I recall, they bear the standard of the Ministre du Budget, and still seem to be government-run. When I asked an employee who was outside of the building (in my horrible French) about what the purpose of the buliding was, they said they couldn't tell me. Can anyone help me out? You can find pictures of the building online . Thank you very much. --] 06:24, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

:The building houses "La Garantie", or in full "Ministère des finances, service de la garantie". It's the French ], controlling ]s. ] 10:26, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

:Fantastic. Anyone know anything about the history of the place? I understand that it was built somewhere in the region of the old Paris Templar complex. --] 20:13, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

::I thought you had been there? Then you should know that it is close to the in the ], at the . (Both links from the official web site of the mayor's office, which has an excellent coverage of the 3<sup>e</sup> arr.) On the architecture and history, maybe the following book may help:
:::Loizeau, Emmanuelle: ''Le 3e arrondissement : itinéraires d'histoire et d'architecture''; Action artistique de la Ville de Paris, 2000. ISBN 2913246230. In French.
::Another good site giving a general, but detailed overview of the neighbourhood is (in French, again). HTH, ] 10:26, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

== what is the most popular resterant in Austrilia? ==

what is the most popular resterant in Austrilia?
*I think you mean ]. But I'm not from Australia so I wouldn't know what the answer is. - ] 07:26, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
**And I think you mean ]. :) ] 07:57, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
***The most popular restaurant, as in the restaurant company that serves the highest number of customers? Well, that would probably be ]. So far as the most popular individual restaurant? Well, I could name some of the bigger ones in ], but chances are it would be pointless as the most popular restaurant is more likely to be in a larger city. -- ] 08:18, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
***There's also ], although it's known over there as ] due to complicated circumstances. :) ]<sup>]</sup> 08:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== ]'s dagger—iron or steel? ==

I vividly recall watching the A&E documentary '''' and reading its accompanying book (ISBN 0571168450).

In one episode the guy interviewed said that the tiny dagger found near King Tut's heart was made of steel, and talked about how exciting this find was for them.

BUT our ] article say it is iron. Which is correct? I'm confused...

I wouldn't like to think "we" would be wrong about such a basic detail, but I thought that ''the whole point'' of the song-and-dance about its descovery was because it was steel of an unprecedented age? —]<sup>]</sup> 06:58, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:Steel is a form of iron. Surely there's no contradiction? ] 09:41, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

::not quite...] is an alloy of iron and (mostly) carbon, with properties quite different from pure iron, and the process of making steel is generally assumed to have been invented quite a bit after Tutakhamun's time, so there's your contradiction :P -- ] ] 10:07, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:::you can get something close to steel by repeatedly hammering out iron. The question dpends on exactly how you define steel.

::::True, but this process also had to be invented/discovered at one time - there's a reason the time period is generally called "Iron age". What was so special about Tut's dagger is that it was way older than was assumed possible for a steel object, no matter how it was made (as Garrett pointed out above) -- ] ] 11:07, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:Mankind makes discoveries that are sometimes a big military secret like ] which can subsequently be forgotten in ] or when no one survives a conquered people who knows some technique. Thus, a distinction must be made between when something was first discovered, and went into widespread use, and when earlier people's might have discovered it, and successfully kept it so secret, that it did not get into widespread use. and then there are the ] explanations. ]|] 16:05, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

This is getting away from the question: was it iron or was it steel???????? Simple. The issue here is not when steel was or wasn't invented, but which Tut's dagger made of? ]<sup>]</sup> 11:35, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Severn Railway Bridge ==

In the ] there is a link to some archive footage of the demolition of the bridge. Watching the footage, one of the final pieces of commentary says that 15 of the spans of the bridge were not sold for scrap metal, but were sold intact to be re-used as bridge spans elsewhere in the world. Does anyone know where these re-used spans are to be found ? Thanks--JRL 06:35, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

==What one Word Concept would describe the phrase what comes aroud goes around? or like same life Karmic revenge?==
Martyharhar---] 08:45, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Balance? Karma? --] 09:22, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Comeuppance? ] 10:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Maybe reciprocity. I don't know if there's a perfect one-word solution, though. "Just desserts" would cover it ... ]<small>&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</small> 11:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

] (although that's two words) ? ] 13:16, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
Inevitability

== Routing PC Sound to Speakers or Headphones by Application ==

Is there any freeware that will allow me to send my ] (]) incoming calls to my headphones, but at the same time have my ] display ( from my PC's TV card ) sound sent to the PC speakers ? This software would enable a user to watch TV on their PC, but then take their VoIP phone calls on their headphones, without fiddling with the sound settings. I hope this is an appropriate place for this type of question (pushing the limits perhaps)--jrleighton 10:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:If you are on a ], there is a program called that will handle this. ] 14:54, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

::'Standard' PC soundcards have only one ], which is where all the sounds get mixed together into stereo/3D space or whatever, for sending to the various outputs (headphones, speakers, digital audio...). So if that buffer contains your VOIP when the movie starts, the movie sounds and VOIP get mixed.

::Lots of cards ''do'' have multiple independant outputs though, notably the ones designed for ], although such cards aren't as good for games and 3D sound.

::You can also try putting several soundcards into the PC, if you like watching the ]... (from the word 'freeware' I assume you're using Windows?) ] 16:35, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:::Thanks for all your help. Looks like the Mac program does exactly what I want. But unfortunately I am using Windows though. Looks like it's not possible. --jrleighton 01:51, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

::::My experience differs from Ojw's. I have two sound cards (the nforce one on the chipset and an ultra cheap PCI I got specifically for Skype). I've had no problems at all. From what I read, older versions of Windows don't cope well with two soundcards, but XP seems (at least for me) to have no problems with it. -- ] | ] 19:23, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

== Thinking aloud ==

I've seen some people often thinking aloud i.e. uttering every word that the person is currently thinking even when noone around is noticed by the person. Is this a disorder? Are there any psychological reasons such as craving for attention etc., for this? -- ] <sup>\] \]</sup> 11:55, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
:I hope it's not a disorder! I do it all the time! Sometimes it just helps if I talk things through with myself. Like today when I was looking for an article here. I couldn't think of the name of a series of books. I went over to a guy I work with and said "What's the name of those books about the ] and the people that are left behind?" and it was at that second that I realized that I had the answer, ]! This example has a second person but I get answers from myself often by just talking to myself. ] 12:30, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::I have never personally met anyone who ''actually'' speaks aloud ''every single thought''. Most folks can think more quickly than they can speak. There is generally a whole jumble of thoughts going on at once&mdash;not all of them verbal. (For example, as I type this, I am simultaneously deciding what to type, telling my fingers what to do, thinking "should I really be writing this?", and also feeling guilty because I should be packing.) For me, "thinking out loud" helps me to organize the clutter. I'm sure it ''could'' become a disorder requiring clinical attention if it became compulsive. (Most people who "think out loud" have the capacity to ''stop doing it''.) -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 19:45, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:::Thanks Dimas and Sarah. I now feel that there may be different types of people who think aloud for a variety of reasons. People finding company in themselves, people craving for attention, people reassuring themselves, people like ] (who has commented above) etc., Can someone validate or refute these possibilities? -- ] <sup>\] \]</sup> 05:44, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== Midnight Oil ==

What are characteristics of the songs that the Australian rock band - "Midnight Oil" wrote?

What does the lyrics in their songs "Beds are Burning" and "Power and the passion" mean?
If there are any more interesting information on this band - Midnight Oil - please include it too.

Thanks.

:Have you read the article on ]? ] 12:24, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::''Beds are Burning '' is concerned with ] rights. ] 12:49, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

== Identification of a flower ==

Hi, I recently took some photos of a flower. It was taken in Melbourne, Australia during winter:
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--] 12:17, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

:It looks likes a variety of ] ] to me. --] 15:00, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

It looks like a camelia to me. Look at the leaves, not rose-type leaves, camelia (sp) -like leaves.

:It's definitely not a rose; it looks like a camelia. Compare with these .

Its a camellia japonica.There are many different colours and varieties and they can be found in any good Botanical book.

== "I could care less" ==

What are people's thoughts on the above expression (cf. "I could''n't'' care less"). My girlfriend shoots me a vicious glare every time I use it, but I've even now spotted it in a New York Times headline (where it was being used un-self-consciously). The only article I can find that mentions it is ], where it mentions that the original usage may have been sarcastic(?)

So, is it an acceptable idiom, or is it a sign that language is going down the tubes, since it actually means the exact opposite of what the person using it intends to say?

: Language Log has on this, linking back to a series of older ones, explaining the linguistic shifts that (may have) led to it. Bear in mind that it's an idiom, where exact meaning is rarely directly relevant... ] 14:10, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

It's an example of a idiom that doesn't correspond to the literal meaning of the words. This is commonplace. Other examples are "head over heels", "shouldn't wonder if", "more than you can help", "near miss", "literally" (i.e., metaphorically), "back and forth", "ass backwards" etc etc. You might regard the phenomenon as an unfortunate debasement or as an amusing feature. ] 14:23:21, 2005-08-17 (UTC)

:He's asking specifically if it should be "I could care less" ''or'' "I couldn't care less". The former could be sarcastic, the latter would be literal. The question is whether the former is just a misspoken or debased version of the latter. --] 14:55, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

(1) No-one can say if it ''should'' be either form. It all depends on the context. In the UK "could care less" sounds odd and wouldn't be acceptable in any formal context. However, in the US it seems to be much more acceptable; Google finds occurrences in ordinary prose in the ''New York Times'' whereas in the ''Guardian'' it only finds direct quotes from Americans. I wouldn't use "could care less" myself, but I don't object to "head over heels". (2) There seems to be little or no evidence that "could care less" is sarcastic or ironic in origin. (On the other hand, there's not much evidence the other way either!) (3) The idea that language change is the result of "debasement" and "mistakes" makes it harder to understand what's really going on? Was the ] a "mistake"? Is modern English debased? What does that even mean? Read the article that Shimgray linked to, which describes an ordinary phenomenon of language change by which the phrase could have arisen. ] 15:33:16, 2005-08-17 (UTC)

:IMAO the great vowel shift was a huge mistake. It resulted in the hopeless confusion of trying to explain the simple, natural, intuitive pronunciation of every other language in terms of the needlessly complex English language. ] | ] 15:46, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure that "common use" makes something acceptable or desireable. After all, we are talking about an expression that means the opposite of what the speaker intends. Surely that makes it a bad choice of words. Shouldn't one mean what one says and say what one means? Use it if you like, but to many people, you will sound like a person who doesn't think about what they're saying. ] 15:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

::It doesn't "mean the opposite of what the speaker intends"; the speaker knows what they're saying, the listener knows what they're saying. It ''can be interpreted as meaning the opposite'', which is a very different thing... ] 16:03, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:::Ummm... yes, it does. What they mean to say is "I do not care about this at all." But what they are saying is "I care about this somewhat, because I ''could care less'' than I actually do." So yes, I think that while the speaker and the listener make the same mistake in interpreting the phrase, it does mean the opposite of what the speaker says, based on any reasonable interpretation of the words and their juxtaposition. The meanings of these words are clear and can be found in a dictionary. Stringing them together produces a logical meaning that is the opposite of what is intended. ] 20:10, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::::The speaker means "I really don't care" and the listener understands the speaker to have meant "I really don't care". The phrase "I could care less" is an ] (at least in some varieties of English), that is, an expression "whose meaning does not follow from the meaning of the individual words of which it is composed" (to quote the Misplaced Pages article). The meaning of the individual words put together is not what the speaker intends, but the meaning of the ''expression'' is. If one were to string the words together and interpret them as you propose, one would in fact be making a mistake and getting the ''wrong meaning''. -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 20:25, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

::::I think you misunderstand me. The idiom "I couldn't care less" has the same meaning as the idiom "I could care less" which has the same meaning as the phrase "I really don't care". It's a single unit. The ''individual words'' of that phrase may not mean the same, if strictly interpreted, as the whole idiom does - but this doesn't prevent either the listener or the speaker from understanding the meaning of the idiom. People aren't deconstructing the language when they speak to one another - they're hearing phrases they understand.
:::::''Such expressions, if judged by strict rules, will commonly fail to satisfy them. In so far as they are idiomatical, they are departures from the beaten track of that grammatical construction, and that critical analogy, which are common to all languages.''
::::(], ''The Queen's English''.). ] 20:37, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, in England it is always 'I could'''n't''' care less', I have always wondered whether I misheard Americans who I thought I heard say 'I could care less'. ] 16:13, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

People often say "cheap at half the price" - I don't know wheter this is meant to be sarcastic or not. This is perhaps an example of the same phenomenon. 19:55, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:I've always thought this was a sarcastic comment on the percieved value. ] 23:02, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Koxinga ==

Hi. I am wondering if anyone can explain what the 'meaning' is behind the name of Koxinga (國姓爺). I would have guessed that it is something like "Master of the country's name" but maybe someone who knows better can verify this for me. Thank you. ] 16:35, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
: According to the article ] which I should have read before posting the question his name means 'Lord with the Royal Surname'. I wonder if anyone knows any thing more on that, to elaborate or confirm it? ] 16:43, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== Baseball Home Run Champion ==

It seems to me that a way to tell who the best home run hitter of all times is, is to find out which player has hit the most home runs off the best pitchers. It would take a lot of research, but with todays technology it seems as though it could be done. Can anyone suggest a person or a company that would be capable of this?

: That would require an interpretation of ], though some subjective judgement should also be applied. You just need the appropriate database, reliable stats and a suitable method to work it out. ]|] 19:52, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== Incorrect statement? ==

Hi! I copied this statement from your Air Force info section:

Schriever AFB is the only U.S Air Force base without a runway, and the only base named after a person who was still alive at the time.

Actually, Los Angeles Air Force Base also does not have a runway. I believe that LAAFB is the only base names after a city. (That is what I am told, I'm no authority.)


I didn't feel I had the authority to edit the info. Perhaps it is something you would like to review first.
Thanks!
Great information!
Elizabeth

elizabeth@speedcat.com

:Hi Elizabeth &mdash; while people here tried hard to make sure everything is accurate, there will always be some mistakes somewhere. If you know from first-hand knowledge that the LAAFB has no runway, then you have just as much "authority" as anyone else to edit the article. You could either change ] itself, if you're ''']''', or you could post a message at ], where the people who edit that article would be most likely to notice it.
:Likewise, you could either edit ] or post a message at ].
:Thanks for taking an interest in improving this encyclopedia! And, if you've caught the the wiki-bug, ] and contribute to what interests you! &mdash; ] | ] ] 18:48, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== Educational requirements for becoming a doctor, lawyer, dentist. ==

There was a time when a person without a college education could become a doctor, dentist, or lawyer simply by taking the appropriate exam (such as the Bar exam to become a lawyer). Now, it seems that in order to practice these professions, you are required to have at least a Bachelor's degree. When did this occur, and why? For example, in 1939, a man, living in the South at the age of 28 and working in a store, decided to take the Bar exam. He passed and opened up his own law office. Could this happen in today's times?
Thank you.

:While I would have thought that to be a lawyer all you would need is to pass the bar, according to our ] article, "Before taking the bar exam, nearly all American lawyers must first attend law school for at least three years." and "in the U.S. and Canada (other than Quebec), at least three years of univerity education in a subject other than law ("pre-law studies") is required as a prerequisite to entry into the law degree program", which implies at least six years of university studying. I'm not sure who exactly is exempt under "...''nearly'' all American lawyers" though.
:In the UK, ]s must hold a ], equivalent to a BSc-level, and in the US you need a MD, equivalent to MSc-level study.
:A ] "requires 2-6 years of further formal university training after dental school."
:So, in answer to your question, no, to be legally recognized as a lawyer/doctor/dentist, you need the proper university education, and not just to be able to pass an exam. &mdash; ] | ] ] 18:16, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Having said that, universities will often give significant course credit for relevant experience or self study. ] 19:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:Notice that the exception to the law school requirement to take a bar exam is the ] exam, which only requires a bachelor's degree or three years of technical industry experience. But to avoid confusion, those who have passed the USPTO bar and not a state bar are called ]s rather than patent lawyers as they are only allowed to practice law in front of the USPTO and not in a courtroom. --] | ] 16:00, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, in the past, the requirements to become a lawyer in the U.S. were quite simple. There was always a shortage of lawyers in the U.S., and during the anti-elitist Jacksonian years, many states got to the point in the 1830s where any idiot could open up a office and call himself a lawyer. However, the old apprenticeship system survived in many states (so that one had to do an apprenticeship first, then present oneself to a judge and answer at least some questions to show a basic knowledge of the law). Apprenticeship lasted even well after the rise of the modern law school in the late 19th century, and is still around as an alternative to law school in one state, California.

::Also, law was initially a bachelor's degree, but then in the 1960s, the lawyers got sick and tired of being looked down upon by the scientists with their Ph.D.'s and the doctors with their M.D.'s. There was also a consensus, then and now, that law is so difficult that a person has to be at least 21 or 22 years old to study it properly (which is why most American law schools today frown on people who get bachelor's degrees in "legal studies"). So now, it's a three-year graduate or professional program leading to a Juris Doctor degree. --] 05:38, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Geologic evidence of the great flood of Genesis... ==

Are there places in the United States where one can view view geologic evidence of the great flood? If so, where?

: Congress :) -- ] | ] 19:33, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

:: Basically, there is no geological evidence that points towards a global flood. Still doesn't stop ] believing in it and using the pseudoscience of ] to promote a rather absurd idea. See for FAQs on the subject. ]|] 19:49, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:::]s are common around the world, and it is possible that the Biblical flood (or more probably the Mesopotamian myths which may have been a source for it) is based on a severe but regional flood - see, for instance, the ]. There would, of course, be no evidence of this in the United States. ] 11:38, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:] has candidates for catastrophic prehistoric floods, including the postulated source of some Native American flood myths. --] | ] 15:21, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Milky Way Structure? ==

Who first identified the spiral (or spiral barred) shape of the ] galaxy? How did they do it?--] 19:40, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
*That's a real good question. The best I can find is that the idea that the galaxy is spiral had been floated around since the middle of the 19th century; I think ] and ]'s researches seem to have proven it. --]] 22:40, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

::Dutch astronomer Cornelius Easton proposed a spiral structure for the Milky Way, with a non-central location for the Sun, in 1900. Harlow Shapely estimated the size of the Milky Way correctly, but he understimated the distance of "spiral nebulae" (which we now know to be separate galaxies) and so placed them within the Milky Way. Herber Curtis underestimated the size of the Milky Way but correctly identified spiral nebulae as separate entities, which he called ''Island Universes'' - this led to ] between Shapely and Curtis in 1920. It was Hubble's researches in the 1920s that finally established that "spiral nebulae" are external galaxies and the Milky Way is a fairly typical spiral galaxy. See for more information. ] 14:41, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== Gun Maker W.H. Brown ==

Looking for information on a Flintlock gun maker named W.H. Brown. He may have lived in eastern TN, or some where across the appalachian area of the US. Would like to know when and where he lived, and basic informtion about the guns he made. Any information will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

== Hera, Temple of:- ==

Hi guys,

I have not the remotest idea what these messages are about.
I do not wish to offend anybody but when people make false accusations it tells you something about the person or persons making the false accusations. I had assumed that your site was an attempt to be professional and that you would honour you own rules. If you are experiencing mischief it certainly is not from my computer.

My original inquiry was a serios inquiry about the ] located on the Island of ].
I wondered if anybody had any extensive information on its dimensions and how it compared with the ].

The tourist guides on this Island tell a pretty weird story.
In view of some of the comments I prefer to remain annonomous.
I am not interested in writing or editing articles in any way.
:I don't know anything about the Temple of Hera (sorry!), but it sounds like the other thing you are talking about is the comments on ]. According to the note at the top of that page, it's an AOL IP, which means that it is shared by all kinds of people who also use AOL. There is a very, very, very good chance that the comments on that page were not directed at you. They were probably directed at other users who happened to have that IP address that day. Around here we're used to how confusing IP addresses can be and we won't hold it against you. (You can save yourself the trouble by registering an account, if you like.) -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 21:21, 17 August 2005 (UTC)


OK, so we don't yet seem to have an article on the ] (also known as the ]). However, there is plenty of information on the place. The building measures c. 24.5×53.3m. according to , which has floor plans. , as does . Anyone fancy helping on an article? ] 00:50, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Intelligence test for foreign sweepstakes winners ==

I've seen a number of sweepstakes based in the US that say winners in other countries will have to pass a short intelligence test to claim their prize. What's with this? Is it some ancient legal stipulation? Is it racism? Is it just tradition? ~~ ''']''' (]/]) 22:00, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:I think you're forgetting the other possible reason... humor. I've seen it before and always took it as a joke. ] 22:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::Well, no. Some places ban sweepstakes outright; the "intelligence test" turns it into a slight vestige of a game of skill. If I recall correctly, that is. --]] 22:24, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:::It is a legal consideration. See ]: "Notably, Canada and several European countries require entrants to solve a mathematical puzzle, making it a contest of skill, in order to overcome requirements that would classify sweepstakes as a form of ]." -] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 22:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::::"Who is the President of the US? a) George Bush b) George Hamilton c) George Burns". They call it a "game of skill" to get around the lottery restrictions, but clearly they don't have to ask for very much skill. -- ] | ] 22:39, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
:::::Thanks. ~~ ''']''' (]/]) 23:15, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know what questions they actually ask though? That could easily be used to ask incredibly difficult questions to get out of giving out a prize. - ] <sup><small>]</sup></small> 23:09, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
:The rare occasions I've won prizes like free ice cream and chips I've had to answer questions like, "What's (6+3)*2?" before I could redeem them. I heard that the purpose of these questions isn't intended to prevent people from winning the prize, but rather to satisfy some legal issue where you have to work for something before a transfer of goods can take place. But I have no idea why that is or even if that is the case. --] 23:35, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

If it is a random game, then it is governed under gambling laws, if it is a test of skill it is not. ] 00:15, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
::We have an article about the Canadian version of this at ]. - ] 13:48, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

== hydro-cracker ==

I would like to find out how many hydro-crackers are at present in operation around the world? Jo

== working in space ==

how can hand tools be used in space without loosing them. robert

:A tether to the astronaut and/or object being worked on. ~~ ''']''' (]/]) 23:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::A more interesting question is "how do you turn a bolt while floating in space? wouldn't it turn you instead?" --]] 23:15, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:::To think about it, that probably would happen! But I guess the astronaut wouldn't move as much as the bolt because the bolt's mass is so small. --] 23:38, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

:::But you would still be turned while tightening the bolt, unless you used a reactionless power wrench. I don't know, but I think those work a little like ]s - they turn a weight opposite the direction they're turning the bolt, so there's no net angular force on the body of the wrench. ~~ ''']''' (]/]) 00:05, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

You could brace yourself against something else? ] 00:17, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:It's all very complicated to do something terribly simple. That's why they have to practice every maneuver in those giant water tanks. --] | ] 16:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Spanish verb conjugation ==

What is the past tense of ''permitir'', meaning "to permit", as in "six absences are permitted"? ]''']''' 22:46, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
:Well the past tense would be permitía (imperfect tense for ongoing, he/she), but in your phrase, you don't want past tense, but I don't know the grammatical terms for what you want. The way it is said is "se permiten seis ausencias". It uses the "they" form and se translates to is basically. Incidentally for simple things like this machine do a decent job. Also, the first google hit for Spanish verb conjugation, gets a site that will do full conjugation for you. - ] <sup><small>]</sup></small> 23:07, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
::It's called the passive voice. A word-for-word translation would be "Seis ausencias son permitidos," although the reflexive version cited above is far more common. ] 23:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

== CMS for SEO Content ==

Is there a CMS system that will allow me to upload lot's of additional content to my client's site withouth affecting the rest of their site. I need a tool designed specifically for uploading content pages. Any suggestions?
:You should be able to use ordinary ](file transfer protocol) to add pages to a site while keeping the existing content intact. If that won't work for you, please explain your situation in greater depth. ] | ] 20:28, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

== Searching for information about john marsh a member of the british south african police between 1920-1929 ==

I wonder if there is such a thing as a national archive in Britain where you can find the records you need? --] 23:24, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== *snip* ==

I read somewhere on Misplaced Pages that there is a technical term for imitating sounds or actions on the internet with a textual representation. What is this called? --] 02:31, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

* Not internet-specific, but ]? Words-sounding-like-the-sound-they-describe. ] 02:36, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
* Possibly ]s? ] 11:21, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
* ] &brvbar; ] 20:57, 2005 August 18 (UTC)
*: Bang on :-) Thanks! --] 23:22, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Telling time by the stars ==

I know that for a ] you use the ].

Is there any need to make a similar correction when trying to read sidereal time by the stars? (I know there is a seasonal correction to get the time of day from sidereal time, but it is linear, no?) --]

:I don't know, but it looks like most methods for reading ]s (] perhaps? Where should this article go!?) return a time in standard notation, so converting to ] would be the same as from regular time. I have a sneaking suspicion that that is not what you meant though... These sites , provide a basic grounding in how to tell the time by the stars. ] 19:41, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Counties and cities ==

Hi guys.

I have a question. There is a lot of files with US
states and Counties borders of each state. How can I
find out borders of cities inside each county ?
So, I mean that I need to see borders for each city or
town in any county.

Thank you in advance.

Jack

:If you're really keen, you can use the geographic data from http://tiger.census.gov with ] computer software to find and produce maps of just about any governmental division in the United States. But that may be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. --] 10:58, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the , which operates from the tiger data, or , which is also a US Census product but has a slightly different interface. ] ] 16:12, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Is there a particular county you are interested in? ] 17:58, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== Removing an item from Delete box ==

Dear Sir or Madam,

I notice that my contribution on "Pami"--an 8th Century BC Egyptian Pharaoh--on Misplaced Pages is still being listed in the 'Misplaced Pages: Votes for Deletion' box. However, all the voters here agree that my article here should be kept with the exception of 'Erwin Walsh' who first posted a delete on this subject. I have noticed that some Misplaced Pages posters have criticised Mr. Walsh for allegdly Bulk VfD tagging other contributions without fully reading them first.

May inquire if Misplaced Pages will remove my contribution on Pami from the 'Misplaced Pages: Votes for Deletion' box. This seems an unnecessary form of purgatory for a Pharaoh whose existence is unquestioned by all scholars and who is documented by contemporary monuments from his own reign. Pami is certainly not a " fictitious entry" as Mr. Walsh has claimed.

Fabian from Vancouver, Canada Thank You. --] 09:49, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:Don't worry, the VfD will be removed soon and the article of course will be kept.--] 10:34, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Peruvian slave bracelets ==

i have recently come across some peruvian slave bracelets.I have looked for information in regards to their origin and could only find that they were used by the spanish conquerors during the time of the inca to identify slaves.They are a bracelet made from alpaca silver and have a wristband and chains connected to each finger.I have tracked more down to celtic areas where they were given as tokens of love and/or to show that a maiden had captured a mans heart.I have also found some in indian culture and in some arabian nations that look very similar or at least appear to be based on a similar design.They can be found in many belly-dancing shops around the world.My question is this?What are their true origins?Is it incan culture they originated from or were they brought over from spain and if so,where did the spanish find them.I do not wish to wear something that symbolizes pain,death or slavery.

:If the item is clearly more decorative than starkly functional, the story is a marketing ploy. When you find a variety of histories for the same object, be skeptical that any of them are true. ] 12:55, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

There seem to be three main meanings of '']'':
# A copper bracelet used as a medium of exchange in the West African slave trade. (Picture: ) Some people seem to be under the misconception that slaves wore these bracelets, but this seems very unlikely.
# Any bracelet made of chain links. (Example: , which claims, "During the 1920's these 'slave' bracelets were very popular")
# A wrist bracelet joined to a ring by a chain (Example: )
(The term is also used in BDSM fiction, e.g. ]'s '']'' series.) My guess is that meanings 2 and 3 come from the association of chains with slavery, and are not derived from any actual use of these bracelets by slaves. But maybe there's more to the story. What does the OED say? ] 18:15:11, 2005-08-18 (UTC)

== Final film to be made by the ] ==

Does anybody know what the film was...it was made in 1980, according to the article on the Rank Organisation. Thanks

== Yesno? ==
Which American or British cartoon or sitcom character had a habit of saying "yesno?" ] | ] 13:22, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

: Jim Trott from ]. Interestingly, "yes no" was the sole thing one of the ladies in the nursing home my Nanna was in said. Still, she was cheerful. ]|] 15:25, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:: I have never seen that show, but the article says Jim Trott said "no no no" and his wife said "yes yes yes". I was looking for someone who actually said "yesno?" as one word. Is Jim Trott still correct? ] | ] 15:41, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:::When Jim Trott wanted to say anything it was always preceded by several nos. So occasionally he would say "No no no no no noyes". His wife, who didn't appear often at all, said "Yes yes yes yesnooo". ] ''']'''</font color = red> ] 16:04, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== what is the difference between science and superstition? ==

what is the difference between science and superstition?

:The ] defines science, and makes sure the conclusions and results of science are agreeable. ] 13:52, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

A superstition is a belief about how the physical world works that is not supported by statistical or physical evidence but is transmitted as part of the "knowledge base" of a particular culture. Science is the body of knowledge about the way the physical world works that is supported by statistical or physical evidence. Facts and theories that are part of the science "knowledge base" should be supportable or refutable indepedently of culture. ] 15:25, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:Of course, the idea that the scientific method works is, in itself, little more than superstition, since it cannot be proved methodologically. ;) ] 16:02, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:: eh? Don't be silly. The scientific method is grounded in ]; ] is ]. ]|] 17:27, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:::But rationalism is simply the superstition that logic can be applied to the world ;) ] 18:04, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
:::Don't accept the word of any of us, much less one who can't discern the difference between empiricism and superstition. Compare the results: on the one hand, increased longevity, ease from disease, increased convenience in daily living, increased understanding of the universe in its macrocosmic and microcosmic aspects; on the other a reminder not to step on the crack and break your mother's back. - ] 04:39, 19 August 2005 (UTC).

== trying to find name of author for article about mercury, for reference use ==

Hello there!
I'm trying to find the name of the main author of the aricle on mercury, the element. I could not find a name of one author. Anybody know what to do? I you do, I would be eternally greatfull if somebody dropped me a line at mariug@bio.uio.no

Respectfully
Marius Gudbrandsen
:Hello Marius, please see ] - that should answer your question -- ] ] 14:02, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
::Marius, we get this question quite a bit so we put the answer at the top of the page. We're trying to figure out a way for people to see this easier and therefore not ask it again and again. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but if you would explain why you asked it would help us out greatly. Thanks, ] 14:20, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Cartography/Heralrdy/Linguistics search ==

I'm looking for a career field or a job specialty that has a lot to do with historical maps, heraldry, and historical languages. I have most of a Bachelor's degree in French and Linguistics, but I've decided to be really happy I have to find a job doing the things I love, and ever since I was a little kid I've been fascinated by historical borders, genealogy, heraldry, and the linguistic tradition of regions, countries, and other territories (especially in Europe). However, I find it is extremely difficult to find a job or career that synthesizes all of these interests into one field. Any help would be appreciated, I'm pretty much uprooted right now and can travel anywhere and learn anything if it means I get to do what makes me happy. ] 15:15, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


Let me make it clear that this isn't a job solicitation, I'm just looking for direction towards some field I can try to look for work in. ] 17:06, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:Well, maybe you can try being a librarian, archivist or museum curator. You'd need a master's degree of some sort, though, I think. And it's not exactly a hot field, there are few jobs available. ] 17:11, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
:Or, for that matter, you can get a PhD and do exactly what you want (and teach), except the competition for jobs is even worse, and the pay is abysmal. ] 17:14, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Is having three fingers in each hand a situation with a name? ==

I know a person who has just three fingers in each hand. I'm very curious about it but I didn't ask him in case he was sensitive about it. Does this anomaly have a medical name, is it known, are there any other people (without being a "coincidence") in this state and does it have any known cause? Thank you very much to all in advance, Misplaced Pages rules!!

--] 16:00, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:I would think that many things can cause this including ], ], etc. Although I don't know the name of the condition of having a lower than normal amount of digits. So while we might be able to get a name for the condition, you'd probably have to ask the person how it came about. ] 16:08, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Although tridactyly would be a perfectly acceptable medical term, a far more common birth defect that results in reduced fingers is ]. There are several forms of this, some isolated and some associated with other anomalies. The hand in ectrodacytly is often formed abnormally in other ways. A "lobster claw" deformity is most common. Versions of ectrodactyly are far more common than symmetric bilateral tridactyly without other hand or body anomalies. ] 21:35, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

A lack of fingers or toes is '''hypodactyly''' (compare with ], the condition of having extra fingers or toes; see ] for other words derived from the Greek δακτυλος, meaning "finger"). The condition of having only three fingers and a thumb is called '''tetradactyly'''. (The condition of having only three digits, including the thumb, would be '''tridactyly''', however on the web I can only find this word used of three-toed ancestors of the horse, so I doubt that doctors use it). ] 16:22:06, 2005-08-18 (UTC)

== 1944 0r 1945 movie ==

In the movie the male role is a concert violinist. I think it was a Boyer movie and perhaps Alexiz Smith, but could be wrong on stars. I saw this movie twice in the summer of 1945 and agonized for years for the name and stars.
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Barbara Hayes
Portsmouth, NH 03801
BahbNail@aol.com
*Is it perhaps from 1943? --]] 17:52, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
::? (From 1939) ] 07:48, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Greek in the Koran ==

Hello!

Do you happen to know if any Greek words are in the Koran and if they are in what suras might they be found?


Also, you might concider making an article concerning foreign words in the Koran.

Thank you.

Miguel

:Do indirect Greek loan words count? &mdash; ] (]) 23:05, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== ] possible ] member ==

Does anyone have any information on him? --] 18:29, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
: ] Mike Bucci? ] 18:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Not the wrestler the possible Mafia member. www.google.com search mike buchy or bucci or something like that thanks --] 16:45, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Horse Endurance ==

What pace (miles per day), assuming adequate supply of food & water, can a horse laden only with rider and saddle be reasonably expected to maintain for an assumed indefinite period?

I tried to search for this information on Horse-related articles but found no answers... ] 19:20, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:I think it's going to depend greatly on the type of horse. ] 19:22, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

::And the terrain. ] 19:44, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:::And the intelligence of the rider, weather conditions, quality of the hooving, and so on... I'm looking for a very rough estimate, folks. ] 20:11, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
:This says 30 to 35 miles a day on friendly terrain. The Pacific Crest Trail - definitely not friendly terrain - says expect 20 miles a day. ] 20:40, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
:Now, or 100 years ago? The difference is important, because today we are generally unwilling to ride a horse to death (or an early grave) whereas it was taken for granted that you would do this if there was a good reason (or even if there wasn't, if you could afford it). The horse's fitness is crucial too - ask "how many miles can a man walk in a day" and you'll see it rather depends. No, I don't have an answer, just complicating the question. ] 09:12, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Distance of a Click in Science Fiction ==

What is the distance of a Click? The term is used in Science Fiction stories.

:I've always thought it to be one ]. ] ] 20:14, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
::I was about to say the same thing. My brother, who lives in ] and therefore uses the ] calls one ] a click on a regular basis. ] 20:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Click is commonly used here in Canada (where metric is used officially) to refer to "kilometre", or for "kilometre per hour". ] 20:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
*You might be interested in , which distinguishes between ''klick'' as 1000 meters and ''click'' as one second of arc, since ''klick'' is the quote-unquote proper spelling of what you're asking about. ] | ] 21:01:30, 2005-08-18 (UTC)
: i see it used in 3d shooters and some american war series / movies, i believe it's indeed 1 kilometer. of course it would have been wise if you just looked it up on wiki, there answer is there ]. ] 09:31, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think that click (with a c) refers specifically to a second of angle but instead refers to one turn on the elevation or windage turret on a rifle scope which can be from 1/4 of a minute of angle (moa) to 1 moa. 1 moa is approximately 1 inch at 100 yards, but if you do the trig it's more like 1.047 inches. --] 13:50, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== No article about 'definition of time' ==

Hi there,

can you help to place an article on 'definition of time' in the wonderful Wikipeda on the wonderful world of web? This is a very important concept (word) in physics, philosophy, theology. etc.

My Google search did not recover a useful definitive if not definite definition of it. Even Einstein's quote 'time is something we measure with a clock' is more like in a circular logic; and it certainly is not good for use in theology. Dealing with 'time' concept in God-talk (theology), we see, there is no clock and there is no measurment act as such. Einstein as any other attemt to describe and define 'time' must be confusing it with 'duration of time'.

In my layman's opinion, a definition of time should have something do to with the basic frame-work of being in the sense of existence. Yes, a certain kind of frame-work, fundamental, even does not tied with 'spatial' dimension. The space-time concept in relativity theory, itself is a derived one and it needs its own definition.

But I don't think I can say a 'temporal' frame-work, however tempting it is, unless I first define 'temporal' without using the undefined word 'time' to avoid a circular logic. And along with defintion, an explanation of Planck time should be added as well as the discrete nature of time (not just continous seemly 'flowing' perception of it) a la quantum theory of physics.

Sincerely yours,

Oun Kwon, M.D.
kwonbbl@gmail.com
:Have you seen the ] article? It think it addresses some of the issues you've mentioned. ] | ] 20:45, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
:And if it doesn't, feel free to add it yourself! &mdash; ] ] 21:37, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
:We also already have an article on ]. ] 19:02, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

=== and then there's Time Travel ===
where we have to define dimension(s) of time.
Just as Space is perhaps more than 3 dimensions because of the effects of ], in the wonderful world of ] genre' of ], there is chronological time that most of us experience, there are parallel realities that we can end up in, if we change some pivot point of history to have different results, there is the process of traveling sideways in time, between two or more of those multi-universe dimensions, and ], where our reality is dependent on some action by a time travler whose chronological past time can be interfered with, preventing whatever. ]|] 23:45, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== Frames for figures and text in Latex? ==

1. Is there any way to surround a figure or diagram by a thick black frame in ]? How about a a block of text, like a chunk of source-code?

Thanks, ] 22:28, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

2. A second question: The first figure in chapter three of my paper is, quite rightly, labeled as figure 3.1. However, using <tt> \label{mypic.fig} </tt> and <tt> "see figure \ref{mypic.fig}" </tt>, I have my figure labeled 3.1 and the reference labeled 3.2, which is, of course, wrong. I've run <tt>pdflatex</tt> several times to try to get the labels to synch up, but they don't. This is possibly caused by the fact that I refer to the image at the beginning of section 3.2. As I specify that the image should be at the top of the page, it places the image above the section heading, technically in section 3.1. Thus, the figure is in section 3.1, the reference is in section 3.2, the figure is labeled 3.1 and the reference comes back as... 3.2. Is this related? How do I make the reference synch up with the label? I quite like the figure above the section heading, so I'd prefer not to mess with that. Thanks! ] 22:55, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

:1. I know of two ways you can make a box around your text:

<pre><nowiki>
\begin{tabular}{ |p{5cm}| }
\hline
Here is my paragraph and it is quite pretty. \\
\hline
\end{tabular}
</nowiki></pre>

:or

<pre><nowiki>
\framebox{Here's my paragraph again.}
</nowiki></pre>

:I don't know if framebox can take images, so I'm not sure how to answer that part of your question.

:2. In book format, my images are only numbered following chapter numbering, not section. For instance, the three images in Chapter 3 are 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 no matter what sections each appears in. In report format, my images are simply numbered consecutively, again independent of sections. Perhaps your label tag has fallen out of the figure environment and is labelling a section instead of a figure? --] | ] 15:25, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Tinnitus Relief Program ==

==]==

Does anyone know the biggest casino in Macau? Biggest in a profit sense. ] 23:35, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

:Maybe check out the empire of ] - 何鴻燊, who owns amoung many things, the ]? I don't know if it is the biggest in terms of profit, but certainly very famous and well known. It is a ''very'' popular casino. --] 23:48, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

== madrid bombings ==

how do i find out who died in the bombings

You might start with ] article ]|] 03:14, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Help identifying birds ==

Could someone help me identify these pictures of birds I took at the San Diego Zoo? I think they are ]s but I would like to know what species excactly. I recorded audio notes on my camera but apparently they don't transfer over to your PC. Thanks, ] | ] 02:43, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
<gallery>
Image:UnknownBird01.jpeg|Unknown bird #1
Image:UnknownBird02.jpeg|Unknown bird #2
Image:UnknownBird03.jpeg|Unknown bird #3
</gallery>

==What is the term for telling the time by the stars?==
Do we have an article? ] 03:01, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
:Not sure what the term is, but the instruments to do this include the ] and ]. -- ] <small>(])</small> 04:42, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

OK, will start something at ], ] or ] - any ideas which?! ] 16:33, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Photo copyrights ==

Hi, this is just a hypothetical question, but if I wanted to remove my images from wikipedia, do I still have the rights to do so after I have released them under the GFDL? If not, is there a wiki accepted copyright tag which would allow me to have those rights?

Thanks --] 03:26, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

:''if I wanted to remove my images from wikipedia, do I still have the rights to do so after I have released them under the GFDL?''
::No, you'd have to send them through ], where they would most surely be kept because they're excellent, they're in use and they seem to be mostly GFDL.
:''If not, is there a wiki accepted copyright tag which would allow me to have those rights?''
::No, after some talking in #wikipedia, I'm pretty sure that would qualify the image as not "free", which means it will not be allowed to be used on Misplaced Pages in the first place. &brvbar; ] 04:30, 2005 August 19 (UTC)
:::How about the " copyrighted. The copyright holder allows anyone to use it for any purpose" like in ]? --] 07:08, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
::::I <i>think</i> you can add a tag to let people know that you hold the copyright, as long as it is not more restrictive than the GFDL. Not a lawyer, however - we could really use some lines drawn by the high-ups on this matter, imo. &brvbar; ] 15:20, 2005 August 19 (UTC)

*What would happen if things were uploaded by someone claiming to be the copyright holder, releasing the images under the GFDL, but not having the legal authorization to do it?
*:Eventually, when the true copyright holder became aware of this and did object, he'd complain, either informally on the mailing list or e.g. on this very page or on some other Misplaced Pages page, or more formally by e-mailing Jimbo or even sending an official DMCA takedown notice. We'd ponder the claim, and if we thought it was credible, the image would be taken down. I've seen all of these happen. The more formal and credible such a request is, the greater the likelihood that Misplaced Pages agrees to remove the image. With informal requests, it may well happen that Misplaced Pages decides to keep the image because it is basically the say-so of the uploader against that of the complaintant. Especially if the uploader is a well-respected Wikipedian, we generally trust their judgement more than just some random outsider claiming copyright. There ''are'' "businesses" making money by bullying others with dubious copyright claims to pay for image uses. ] 06:21, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
*:Sometimes, alert Wikipedians notice such cases, though (especially when the image comes from some other website). The procedure in such cases is to replace the wrong GFDL (or PD) tag with <nowiki>{{imagevio|url=...}}</nowiki> and list the image at ], or, in truly unclear cases, replace the "free" tag with <nowiki>{{unknown}}</nowiki> and a comment explaining why the previous "free" tag seemed dubious. In the latter case, it's also a good idea to contact the uploader (or whoever tagged the image) asking for clarification. ] is another possibility to deal with such cases. ] 06:27, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
:Does this mean that it is not possible for a photographer to ever change a copyright notice on one of his images once he's labeled it? &mdash; ] | ] ] 09:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

:As a practical matter, you could delete your images from the Misplaced Pages image server: however, AFAIK, you can't revoke the ] licence, and people would be free to use any copies of the image that they have (cached, for example) under the original licence. The ability of the owner of a copyright to control the licences they have granted will depend on the terms of those licences. If you have granted an irrevocable licence then (surprise) you won't be able to revoke it. -- ] ] 11:27, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
:Someone earlier was considering whether a copyright notice could be added without blocking free use. It most definitely can. In fact, GFDL requires the work to be copyrighted first, then licensed, and a copyright notice should be present wherever a GFDL notice is. ] | ] 15:37, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== How common is female beauty, really? ==

I am interested in actual staitstical information regarding the proportion of beautiful women within a population. I know that this sounds like a silly thing to study, but...

All, or at least most, of us are familiar with how the media is always on the lookout for beautiful women, etc. And we are, like, she's beautiful and can sing, or she's beautiful and can act, or fight well, etc. And I keep saying, female beauty is remarkably common.

For example, almost any woman (at least 85 percent I would guess, but this is just a wild guess) between the ages 18 to 25 are attractive enough to hold jobs as strippers. But I've been to strip clubs and, trust me, you don't have to be beautiful to be a stripper.

How common is it for a woman to be beautiful enough to, for example, be a model? I know some of these models look rather different when all glammed up. I would guess, if they worked at it (fitness, etc.) at least 2 percent of the women ages 18 to 25 are attractive enough to be swimsuit models. But there seem to be criteria other than beauty.

I am looking for figures-- or, what would be better than figures would simply be to see pictures of 50th percentile women, 90th percentile women, etc., labeled as such. I believe that female beauty is nothing to write home about, and I wish to sort of prove this.

And for what it's worth, I live in Connecticut, USA.

--]
:If you're going to be statistical and discuss percentiles, etc, it would seem you must first quantify beauty. Everything after that is trivial. ] | ] 04:45:56, 2005-08-19 (UTC)
::You're not looking for ratios, just greater-than and less-than. Greater-than and less-than are all you need to establish percentile rankings. --Juuitchan
:::Sure. However, ''greater than'' and ''less than'' imply quantification. ''blue'' is neither less nor more than ''orange'' until you define it in terms of, say, wavelength. In fact, without quantification, you could easily say that they are not objectively distinct from one another. What's my point? Getting raw data isn't your problem. ] | ] 04:57:58, 2005-08-19 (UTC)
:The SI unit of course is the ], the amount of beauty required to launch one ship.--] 04:48, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
::Pharos, you rock. --] 05:18, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

:Um, my understanding was that the number of women making a full-time living from fashion modelling is tiny. Really, really, small. Like, under 1000 worldwide. But that was just hearsay from a friend whose hobby was running a modelling website. --] 05:12, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

:Maybe what she is asking is a percentage of the women who adhere to the so-called standard of beauty in culture - i.e. large breasts, thin waist? In which case, wouldn't this basically be a genetic study? I think I've heard of something along those lines being done - the number it came up with was of course very very small. --] 05:18, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

::I still don't see how you can do this. To some, skinny women are beautiful, to others, fat women are beautiful. Yet both of them are able to find modeling jobs. Then are you going to include fashion models but not catalog models, porn models, etc.? Using wide sweeping terms like "model" and then putting them through a subjective screening process seems very unscientific to me. ] 06:00, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

You can answer this question without trying to define beauty by applying the http://amihotornot.com/ methodology: ask a sample of people to rate each other. Then extrapolate. ] 06:39:08, 2005-08-19 (UTC)

== Are ]s written with the sign, in chemical names? ==

After reading over the ] pages, including ], ] and other pages, I am still confused by this. When writing a iron atom which has gained three electrons, would this be written iron(III) or iron(-III)? A second, related question is about the old oxidation naming scheme, with hypo- -ous up to per- -ic; how does this integrate with the numarical system, or with the roman numerals? After I get an answer to this question, I will probably try to improve the respective articles to clarify them. Thanks in advance! ] 07:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
*Iron(III) is actually positively charged, so it would've lost 3 electrons. But you got it pretty much right. You don't use a minus sign, as the first element in such a name is the positively charged species; things like ] are NEVER written as chloride(-I). - ] 11:15, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

*See ] for a list of its oxidation states, from Iron(II) (Fe<sup>+2</sup>) to Iron(VI) (Fe<sup>+6</sup>), and the rather odd-looking Fe<sub>3</sub>C (] - presumably Iron(I) and a tri-valent Carbon?). Can Iron be an ] without ]? ] may also help. -- ] ] 11:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
*Funny, I've been thaught to put the plus sign behind the number (Fe<sup>6+</sup>. - ] 12:46, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
*Sorry for the multiple edits: I'm quite positive that Iron is never an anion unless it's part of a chelate that is net negative because of it's negative ions. - ] 12:48, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
*See also ] for some of the old naming system. ] 12:53, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== arrest warrants ==

How do police obtain search warrants?

:Assuming we're talking about the US, they are granted them from judges of the courts relevant to where the police wish to act. See our articles on ] and ] (note that they are different). ] 10:37, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

:I believe the same is true in other jurisdictions, including UK. ] 17:45, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Anti Hijacking strategy ==

Sir,
I am an Advocate practicing in yhe High Court of Andhra Pradesh,India.Hijacking is a global menace with which every one of us is concerned.I have toiled innumerable ways whether there could be a solution for the problem of Hijacking in the event of occurence of which,how best the lives of innocent people can saved.My extensive research in this area yielded good results in terms of arriving at a positive system of unarming the Hijackers.Although this method can be theoretically proved,it further needs a final touch before it is openly demonstrsted in the presence of experts,I can guarantee 100% foolproof system and if adopted,thousands of human lives can be saved from torture,humiliation and death,thus contributing my humle mite to the cause of humanity.
I request you sir to guide me to further my invention and demonstrate it on secret platform.
I will be awaiting a prompt reply.Thanking you sir

P.Ashok Chakravarthy

:Welcome to Misplaced Pages. This page is for asking specific questions on a wide range of topics. Do you have a question? ] 10:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
::The thing I don't get about these questions is how people learn to edit pages faster than they learn what Misplaced Pages is. It seems to be the opposite for most editors. I think this belongs on ].] | ] 15:47, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

::Or possibly they just don't care. To them Misplaced Pages is just blank space waiting for them to write whatever they want.

::To the original poster I sugest you contact they Indian government, or whatever corresponds to the Department of Homeland Security there. If they are not interested I think it unlikely anyone else will be. ] 17:43, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Poet name please ==

Hi

Please advise who wrote this stanza, it is part of a larger poem:

the fog floats in with the tide and lies on the mosses,
branching up the channels like the veins on an old man’s hand

Thanks

Heidi

== Mathematical Reasoning: All Cats Are Black? ==

What is wrong with the following "proof" by mathematical induction that all cats are black? Let P(n) denote the statement: In any group of n cats, if one is black, then they are all black.
:'''Step 1''' The statement is clearly true for n=1.
:'''Step 2''' Suppose that P(k) is true. We show that P(k+1) is true. Suppose we have a group of k+1 cats, one of whom is black; call this cat "Midnight." Remove some other cat (call it "Sparky") from the group. We are left with k cats, one of whom (Midnight) is black, so by the induction hypothesis, all k of these are black. Now put Sparky back in the group and take out Midnight. We again have a group of k cats, all of whom -- except possibly Sparky -- are black. Then by mathematical induction, Sparky must be black, too. So all k+1 cats in the original group are black.

Thus, by induction P(n) is true for all n. Since everyone has seen at least one black cat, it follows that all cats are black.
--anonym.
:That's simple, you've never shown that P(k+1) is true. The false statement is "We are left with k cats, one of whom (Midnight) is black, so by the induction hypothesis, all k of these are black." It fails common sense and logic. - ] <sup><small>]</sup></small> 12:37, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

::It's a bit more subtle than that. We know that P(1) is true, and we ''appear'' to have shown that ''if'' P(''k'') is true then P(''k''+1) is also true. The principle of ] would then let us conclude that P(''k'') is true for all (positive integer) values of ''k''. You don't need to prove that P(''k'') is actually true - only that P(''k'') leads to P(''k''+1). The flaw is that the reasoning that we have used to get from P(''k'') to P(''k''+1) does not actually work for the step from P(1) to P(2). ] 14:55, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
:::The problem is with "so by the induction hypothesis, all k of these are black." It's not the same k, so you have to reprove that the current set of k is all black. ] | ] 15:59, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
See ''']''' ] 13:16:45, 2005-08-19 (UTC)

== APR of a Fixed Rate Mortgage ==

A couple borrows $100,000 at 9% interest as a mortgage loan on a house. They expect to make monthly payments for 30 years to repay the loan. What is the size of each payment? Also, find the annual percentage rate (APR)?

:The mortgage payments form an annuity whose present value is <math>A_p=$100,000</math>. Also, <math>i=0.09/12=0.0075</math>, and <math>n=12*30=360</math>. We are looking for the amount R of each payment. From the formula for installment buying we have
::<math>R=\frac{iA_p}{1-(1+i)^{-n}}</math>

::<math>R=\frac{(0.0075)(100,000)}{1-(1+0.0075)^{-360}}</math>
::<math>R\approx$804.62</math>.
Here is where I am stuck. Can someone explain ''mathematically'' how I can find the APR?
--anonym
:Our ] artice is actually really good. Everything I would have said about the uselessness of the APR is there as it the general method of calculating it. Essentially it is a way to account for fixed upfront costs, such as costs and points. You need to know what those are to calculate an APR, and you haven't mentioned those. That's probably your sticking point. - ] <sup><small>]</sup></small> 12:34, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== US ARMY - VOCO CONFIRMED ==

A young lady is recruited by the Army and decided she does not want to enlist and through letters and contacting her local commander received a form of discharge papers. It does not state honorable or dishonorable information but the letter reads - You are seperated from Component Indicated: DELAYED ENTRY PROGRAM, FORT KNOX, KY 40121 - effective June 5, 2005 (VOCO Confirmed)- Can you tell me what does that mean - does she still have to report to the Army at a later date?

Carol Williamson

:Wouldn't her local commander be able to answer this question with more detail and quicker than posting it here? Or the recruiter? ] 13:46, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== George Washington page:==
http://en.wikipedia.org/George_Washington
This page is slated for demolition according to a notice I saw yesterday. Why? Apparently, there is some procedure to vote to keep the page, but I could not find it. Please consider this as my vote to keep this page.

:By "slated for demolition" I think you mean "Vote for Deletion" but don't worry, that was just an act of vandalism by someone. The page will be kept. ] 13:48, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

There is justice after all. Thanks! - ME

== Question about natural abundance of isotopes ==

The article on ] states that the 210 isotope is a ], an article containing the phrase "no natural process or mechanism exists which produces it, '''or it is so unstable that it decays away in a very short period of time'''".

This appears to contradict what I read at , a site of the US Geological Survey, so with considerable credibility.

I realize I am way out of my depth here, but I have two questions:
* 210 has a half-life of 20-odd years, so it's not that unstable. Should it really be marked ]?
:Probably not, judging by the linked page--but the reason it's wrong to call <sup>210</sup>Pb synthetic is not because of it's half-life (20-odd years ''is'' a short time when you're talking about geologic time scales--note the radioactive isotopes of lead which do have a measurable natural abundance have half-lives on the order of 10<sup>7</sup> years) but because there's a natural process which produces <sup>210</sup>Pb as noted on the USGS page. ] 19:25, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
* Is the definition of "synthetic" itself, as used above, not a bit arbitrary and misleading?
:Probably so--what constitutes "a very short period of time" is unclear from the article. ] 19:25, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. ] 15:35, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

:I suspect "synthetic isotope" was used here to mean the first part, "synthesised, not produced naturally". I also suspect that, as you point out, they're wrong :-)
:] would probably be a good place to raise this question, or possibly ], though I don't know if it's currently active. ] 15:50, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== LaTeX tables ==
Can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to create a table in latex that will look like this
Input Output Formula
-------------------------
A 1 x = f(y)
B 2
C 3
/ D 4
<| E 5
\ F 6
(though with different stuff in the table). In particular, the main difficulty is getting a curly brace on the outside of the last three values, and also getting the inside to align well with the titles. I've tried all kinds of table nesting, but I can't work out how to do it.

Any help REALLY appreciate, thanks! ] 15:44, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Are you wanting to create this in ordinary LaTeX or in a mixture of Wikimarkup and LaTeX? If you want it in ordinary LaTeX, then this gets close enough, as long as you have remebered to \usepackage{} as appropriate:

:\begin{table}
:\centering
:\begin{tabular}{r|c|c}
:Input & Output & Formula\\
:\hline
:A & 1 & $x=f_1(y)$\\
:B & 2 & $x=f_2(y)$\\
:$\left\{\begin{matrix} \mathrm{C} \\ \mathrm{D} \\ \mathrm{E} \end{matrix} \right.$ & 3 & $x=f_3(y)$ \\
:F & 4 & $x=f_4(y)$
:\end{tabular}
:\end{table}

If you don't want the vertical lines, just take them out of the curly braces on the line starting \begin{tabular}.

This won't work in the restricted version of LaTeX available in MediaWiki (doesn't LaTeX tables for a start), so if that's what you're after give me a prod on my talk page. -] 19:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't don't have LaTeX at work to experiment with, but I would try something like:

<pre><nowiki>
\usepackage{multirow}
\begin{tabular}{c|c|c|c}
& Input & Output & Formula \\
\hline
& A & 1 & $x = f(y)\\
& B & 2 & \\
& C & 3 & \\
\multirow{3}{*}{ \Bigg\{ } & D & 4 & \\
& E & 5 & \\
& F & 6 & \\
\end{tabular}</nowiki></pre>
This avoids nesting, although I don't know if multirow is a default package. You'd have to manually tweek the size of the <nowiki>\Bigg\{</nowiki> and your horizontal like would be over the brace's column also, but that's a small price to pay. --] | ] 19:23, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Fresh Approach in Portland Maine ==

{{expand}}
==Website charting history of female beauty==
I saw a website a while back with a history of what was considered attractive through history, but I lost it - anyone know what I'm talking about? ] 17:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Sting fish? ==

Tell me all fish that sting please. --] 17:03, 19 August 2005 (UTC) Make a article while your at it please.

==George Washington Delete==

George Washington page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/George_Washington
This page is slated for demolition according to a notice I saw yesterday. Why? Apparently, there is some procedure to vote to keep the page, but I could not find it. Please consider this as my vote to keep this page.

:Don't worry, that page is not likely to be deleted. ] 17:39, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Blurry image help? ==

http://alice-waters.jofish.com/pictures/2000/ireland/lastday/pier.blurry.JPG

What is that?
http://www.peak.org/http://photos6.flickr.com/7982796_0041b20a35_m.jpg~abrown/Rocket/Launch20010821/Forward/img00025.jpg

: According to the title of the image, your first URL is a blurry picture of a pier in Ireland. There's nothing in the image that suggests otherwise, so I think you've got a pier. &mdash; ] ] 17:16, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

:: What are the others???

::: As for the other URLs, they seem to have sort of got munched together there. looks like the inside of a church, and is a photo taken from a camera on board a model rocket before launch. The thin thing is the rod that the rocket is launched from. See . &mdash; ] ] 17:21, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== Strange things ==

?

Who is the man in the ?

Neurologist Richard Cytowic. See --] 18:03, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

?

?

?

?

?

More specific please. --] 18:12, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== A Husker? ==

What is it?
Thanks

==Website charting history of female beauty==
I saw a website a while back with a history of what was considered attractive through history, but I lost it - anyone know what I'm talking about? ] 17:35, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Ball on top of flag? ==

On a flag what is the ball on top of it? --] 17:38, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Here is a picture http://www.cajunimages.com/images/American%20Flag.jpge to help --] 17:39, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Please help me

:They are called ]s or ]s. There is a pretty good reference that discusses an urban legend regarding them as well as their actual purpose. --] 17:51, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Car help. ==

What is the cheapest car on market right now? --] 17:49, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

: 50p will buy you a top of the range ] on eBay, . ]|] 18:47, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== This? ==

http://www.cel-ebration.com/ELLENSHAW-MYSTICAL-KINGDOM%20OF%20THE%20BEAST%20I.jpg

Is there a article on this if there isn't there should be it's beautiful. Does anyone know what it is? --] 18:02, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

: It is artwork by ] entitled "Mystical Kingdom of the Beast" for ] as the website itself will tell you. ]|] 18:33, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== mad apple? Other... ==

What does the term or thing mean? I need as many meanings as I can get thank you. --] 18:06, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Largest bird in the world...

Largest snake in the world... anaconda???

Tallest building in Africa... Thank you --] 18:06, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

: The tallest building in Africa is the ] in ] ]|] 18:29, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== passage ??? ==

http://sucs.swan.ac.uk/~cmckenna/ttff/walmer/castle/passage/Mysterious%20passage.JPG

: A passageway in ]. ]|] 18:40, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== PRISON CALLED TENT PRISON ==

WHERE IS THE PRISON CALLED TENT PRISON LOCATED? I THOUGHT IT WAS IN ARIZONA BUT CANNOT FIND IT. THANK YOU JERI MOORE/jmoore5@dc.rr.com



== Beef Cake? ==

what is it --] 18:21, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

See http://thefoody.com/mrsbmeat/beefcake.html for the food. "]" can also refer to a muscular man. ]|] 18:43, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== ? Big question mark ==

This thing? Help http://www.insideartshow.com/gallery/2004/Lacroix_Jacinthe/Freedom.jpg

: "Freedom" by ]. Geez that was hard. The tone of these questions with their easily-found answers seems to be abuse the reference desk? ]|] 18:38, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

\No because it's looking for HELP

== sickest picture on earth? ==

What is it? something sick --] 18:34, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== What are these things? ==

http://heddley.com/edd/2002/03/17/snap.jpg No clue anyone please help

:Judging by the little LEDs and the wires, I'd say they are wires plugged into some device such as a computer. --] 19:43, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

:Looks like some ] cables and the like plugged into a laptop (maybe the guy's iBook). The green lights are probably modem indicators or something. &brvbar; ] 19:47, 2005 August 19 (UTC)

How can you tell? --] 19:48, 19 August 2005 (UTC) I really need to know thanks for trying your hardest USB cables it looks like to you {{disputed}} big time disputed

== Torture? ==

What kinds are there?
The ] article gives a pretty thorough treatment of this subject. ] 19:12, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== throwing rocks ==

what can happen? --] 18:49, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
:Someone might get annoyed, just like when someone asks a bunch of inane questions. ] 18:56, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Seriously --] 18:57, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
:If you want a serious answer, ask the question more precisely (and some corteousness might help). For instance, what can happen ''to whom'' or ''to what''? Are the rocks being thrown at something or someone? With what purpose? Do you mean pebbles or bricks? Etc. ] 19:02, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Death? ==

What happens when someone dies? What happenes to their spirit I don't need ] I need the ref desk help --] 19:06, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
:It sounds like you need a philosopher or a minister of (some) religion. Seriously, you're clearly not going to get an answer here except in terms of cataloguing common beliefs about existance or not of an ]. ] 19:11, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

== Mathematical relations ==

Can anybody confirm that these two (unrelated) mathematical relations are correct? If they are correct, how can it be proved?

:<math> \sum_{i} \left | x^i \right | = \frac{1}{1-x} \,\,\,\,\, \mbox{if} \left | x \right | < 1 \,\,\,\,\, \forall\; x \in \mathbb{R}\ \mbox{and} \,\, i \in \mathbb{N}\ </math>

:<math>\frac{1}{\sum_{i}^n { \frac{1}{{x_i}^2}} } \; \le \frac{1}{n^2} \sum_{i=1} {x_i}^2 \,\,\,\,\, \forall\; x \in \mathbb{R}\ \mbox{and} \,\, i \in \mathbb{N}\ </math>

Thank you very much. --] 19:14, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

:You first one is a ], which can be done by ]s:

::<math>S_n \equiv 1 + x + x^2 + \ldots + x^n</math>

::<math>S_{n+1} = 1 + x + x^2 + \ldots + x^n + x^{n+1} = 1 + x S_n</math>

:We can write two formulae for the difference between these partial sums:

::<math>S_{n+1} - S_n = x^{n+1}</math> and <math>S_{n+1} - S_n = 1 + (x - 1)S_n</math>

:So equating thoe two we get

::<math>x^{n+1} = 1 + (x - 1) S_n</math>

::<math> S_n = \frac{1 - x^{n+1}}{1 - x}</math>

:The sum's limit can be found by sending ''n'' to infinity, which gives your result above. Your second one can be done using the ]. --] | ] 19:37, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

:: Excellent. Many thanks. --] 19:52, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

== Devils? ==

Are they real or fake? --] 19:38, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

: Fake. ]|] 19:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
{{disputed}}

REAL Some people think so atleast

:Reality is in the mind - if you believe they're real, then for you they are. &brvbar; ] 19:54, 2005 August 19 (UTC)


I want to add an article for a place in delhi cantonment. However, i am unsure about the relevant Misplaced Pages policies on this topic. I tried searching on DuckDuckGo to no avail And the results of Misplaced Pages search gave unrelated things. What are the relevant policies? ] (]) 11:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== HELP ==


:You may find ] a good starting point. Be sure in particular to study the section on notability. You may also want to look up articles about similar places (if those articles exist) and review them to get a sense of what does and does not go into such an article.
What is this? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/02sab/logs/aug24/media/new_sp_sponge_600.jpg
:It looks like you're new to Misplaced Pages. (Welcome!) You may find it easier to write an article from scratch and get it past article review or new pages patrol if you spend some time here first editing other pages and getting to understand the culture. That's not a strict requirement, just something a lot of people benefit from when they first arrive! -- ] (]) 14:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


::And the place for new editors to ask questions is the ] (although we're happy to help here too, especially with references). ] (]) 15:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== Unidentified insects ==


== Indian city classification ==
http://bugguide.net/images/cache/7RFZQRYZ8RWL0ZCLIZCL0Z6LYLELKZKHGRBL0ZSHIZWLQRNL3L2LKRLHIZ1LQZCL2RHH5RTZZZWLQRJZRZ6LLZ.jpg
http://www.fmfmtp.net/~d-ale/pair/redbug.jpg
http://www.raingod.com/angus/Gallery/Photos/NorthAmerica/USA/Wyoming/images/GrandTetonWindshieldBug01.jpghttp://www.biol.wwu.edu/407/407/InsectL.jpg


I was looking at ]. In tier Y, there are more than 100 cities listed. But in the reference given there are only 88. I even looked what appears to be official website, there's no new circular of new list. Are there any other circulars or should I just remove extra cities. Also, as my main purpose to look for a tier classification, was to use it as approximation for urban (Tier X and Y) and rural districts (Tier Z). Is there any other department which does this kind of classification, please let me know. -- ] (]) 17:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
WHAT BITE IS THIS http://tray.dermatology.uiowa.edu/Images/Clin/Bite-002.jpg
:That circular by the ] indicates that classification of cities depends on the latest census. Entities using the classification after yearly update seemingly are easy to find ( https://7thpaycommissionnews.in/classification-of-indian-cities/), regarding a specific source explicitly mentioning their is an update the department link to look for has to be related to the census. --] (]) 21:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 27 =
== Unidentified insects ==


== ], Melissa Nathan,&U.S. presidential candidates ==
http://bugguide.net/images/cache/7RFZQRYZ8RWL0ZCLIZCL0Z6LYLELKZKHGRBL0ZSHIZWLQRNL3L2LKRLHIZ1LQZCL2RHH5RTZZZWLQRJZRZ6LLZ.jpg
http://www.fmfmtp.net/~d-ale/pair/redbug.jpg
http://www.raingod.com/angus/Gallery/Photos/NorthAmerica/USA/Wyoming/images/GrandTetonWindshieldBug01.jpghttp://www.biol.wwu.edu/407/407/InsectL.jpg


Black Cube has a wikipedia article, Melissa Nathan is mentioned in the article ]. Both are googleable. My question is if either Black Cube or Melissa Nathan were ever hired to discredit ] or ]? I realize that in Melissa Nathan's case, if she had been hired for that, it would probably have been before she formed The Agency Group PR.] (]) 06:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
WHAT BITE IS THIS http://tray.dermatology.uiowa.edu/Images/Clin/Bite-002.jpg

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December 13

LUFS meter vs. Audiosurf algorithm

What are similarities and differences between LUFS meter (especially momentary) and Audiosurf's audio analysis algorithm (when comes to how tracks are colored in particular way depending on the song intensity)? Considering the color (when "fancy coloring" mode is enabled) of momentary LUFS bar on my own multichannel peakmeter when fed with the same song as the video, lines up with the color of the blocks and the tracks on this video and/or this sometimes and at other times, it doesn't line up assuming they somehow sync with the video. 2001:448A:3070:DCCD:D862:849B:9C69:6E43 (talk) 03:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

The article about the Audiosurf game tells that the game engine analyzes an imported song to create and save its dynamics in an ASH file. Reverse engineering these files to extract the generating algorithms is research that is beyond anyone here. This is proprietary information that the game creator Dylan Fitterer may choose to withold. Already as you look for correlation between your objective LUFS detector and the game screen, bear in mind that where the object of Audiosurf is more to entertain than analytical logging, some degree of randomity may be deliberately included. Philvoids (talk) 16:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
@Philvoids BTW, what's the difference between song intensity estimation algorithm (which Audiosurf probably uses it) and a LUFS meter (aka. a K-weighted RMS meter)? And are these two even interchangeable? 2001:448A:3070:E1D7:6927:DCA6:924C:1623 (talk) 02:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

December 15

Meta physics

about things beyond nature 105.113.11.194 (talk) 20:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

See Metaphysics? ←Baseball Bugs carrots21:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Note that metaphysics is not about phenomena or entities that are beyond the laws of nature. The usual term for these is "the supernatural".  --Lambiam 07:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
The word "meta" means “beyond” and “about”. The word “physics” means “nature”.  Therefore, metaphysics can be regarded as the branch of philosophy that studies the fundamental nature of reality and existence. Stanleykswong (talk) 06:45, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Των μετά τα φυσικά
The Ancient Greek preposition μετά also means "next, after". It is generally thought that the title of Aristotle's book Των μετά τα φυσικά (Tōn metá ta phusiká), "Of the things after Physica", the etymon of our term metaphysics, was given to it (not by Aristotle but by the editor) simply because it was the next book in series, following Aristotle's book Physica, "Natural phenomena".  --Lambiam 11:22, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

December 16

My habit of feature requests scared a developer?

Reading these posts (this and this) on a thread about foo_enhanced_spectrum_analyzer in HydrogenAudio forum about my doings that "scared" off a developer of foo_enhanced_spectrum_analyzer and foo_loudness_peakmeter components for foobar2000 player and yet, the developer of a spectrum analyzer plugin for MusicBee did implement my feature requests into this plugin despite I've not have written fanon wiki pages about future version of CoolEdit Nostalgia (like I did this and this before). So, why would they? 2001:448A:3070:EA0F:F1A2:31A3:43A5:587B (talk) 18:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

What has this got to do with wikipedia or finding references for anything? Nanonic (talk) 19:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
@Nanonic: perhaps finding a reliable reference for what some bad habits when comes to feature requests that are likely to made software developers quit their job. 2001:448A:3070:EA0F:A59D:BE84:1D03:3CD (talk) 21:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Your questions are scaring off the Reference desk respondents.  --Lambiam 09:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Whatever drama you're involved with on that board, I suggest you keep it there and don't post about it here. --Viennese Waltz 10:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

December 17

Futures contract

I don't understand finance, so I thought I'd ask. If I buy a futures contract for say a ton of corn at a specific price, and I hold it until the delivery date, will someone literally deliver a ton of corn to me? Thanks. Therapyisgood (talk) 00:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

The contract is likely to read "FOB Kansas City," or something like that. You'll probably have to move it from whatever transportation it is on (train, ship) yourself. Or, arrange (pay for) delivery. DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 01:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
At the delivery date, the current buyer will have become the proud owner of a ton of corn somewhere. The identity of the buyer of the contract almost always changes, so the seller drawing up the contract does not know the identity of the eventual buyer at the delivery date. Therefore, wherever the "somewhere" may be, you as the buyer can be reasonably sure it will not be delivered to your doorstep.  --Lambiam 09:54, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Oil futures have even been known to have a negative price, when the producers' local storage was full and demand was low. At that point the buyer of the contract is being paid to take it away. --Amble (talk) 20:30, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Most futures contracts are cash-settled and there is no physical transfer of the underlying asset. Stanleykswong (talk) 06:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
True, but this depends on both parties agreeing to a new or modified contract. If the buyer does the unexpected and just sits it out, as suggested in the original question, and also does not agree to a new contract, the seller is obligated to produce the asset to the buyer, even if this means they need to go and buy it on the market.  --Lambiam 10:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes, a futures contract is ultimately for purposes of delivery of the specified contract in accordance with its terms. A standard corn futures contract is for 5000 bushels (although there is also a mini corn future for only 1000 bushels). A bushel of corn (maize) weighs 56 pounds, so at settlement the buyer owns 140 tons of corn (or, for a mini corn future, 28 tons).
But that is not going to be you. You are a retail investor and would trade through a commodity broker, who is probably not going to be willing to accept physical settlement on your behalf. John M Baker (talk) 00:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Which Political Bloggers are Former Programmers?

Such as Curtis Yarvin and Ruan Xiaohuan. Saedeer (talk) 13:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Why do you ask that? I don't think the answer to this question can help you. Polygnotus (talk) 01:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Maybe the OP wants to find out how many other former programmers aren't very bright. ←Baseball Bugs carrots13:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

December 19

Who is the following unknown?

When asked "WHO IS YOUR X?" (X still being unknown to me but is known to the respondents), here are the answers I get:

A answers: "A"
B answers: "C"
C answers: "C"
D answers: "F"
E answers: "F"
F answers: "F"

To sum up, the special phenomenon here is that, everybody has their own X (usually), and if any respondent points at another respondent as the first respondent's X, then the other respondent must point at themself as their X.

I wonder who the unknown X may be, when I only know that X is a natural example from everyday life. I thought about a couple of examples, but none of them are satisfactory, as follows:

X is the leader of one's political party, or X is one's mayor, and the like, but all of these examples attribute some kind of leadership or superiority to X, whereas I'm not interested in this kind of solution - involving any superiority of X.

Here is a second solution I thought about: X is the first (or last) person born in the year/month the respondent was born, and the like. But this solution involves some kind of order (in which there is a "first person" and a "last person"), whereas I'm not interested in this kind of solution - involving any order. 79.177.151.182 (talk) 12:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Drummer?  Card Zero  (talk) 14:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
The OP also posted this question on the Math desk. What if everyone says "I'm Spartacus!" ←Baseball Bugs carrots14:30, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
I forgot to add an important point (so I've just added it, thanks to your response): Everybody has their own X (usually). 79.177.151.182 (talk) 14:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
What do you mean by "everybody has an X"? A lot of folks have an "ex", but is that what you mean? ←Baseball Bugs carrots15:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
I mean that everybody has their own X (usually), whether X is one's mayor, or X is the leader of one's political party, and so forth. Additionally, keep in mind that if any respondent points at another respondent as the first respondent's X, then the other respondent must point at themself as their X. 79.177.151.182 (talk) 15:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
(ec)The statement "everybody has their own X" makes no sense to me, and I'm a native English speaker. ←Baseball Bugs carrots15:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
X is the usual symbol denoting an unknown (as in mathematical equations), but here the unknown is a person, like "a mayor", and the like. 79.177.151.182 (talk) 15:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
There are too many possible answers that still don't involve order or superiority.
- Translator
- Publisher
- Spokesperson
- Copyeditor
- Cleaner
- Keyholder (person who closes a shop and responsible for turning up in cases of property related emergencies - sometimes it's a manager but sometimes it's merely someone who is willing to stay late or be early)
- Scribe
- Accountant
- Driver
Basically anything where there's a "role" in a group but usually only one (barring circumstances).
What are you hoping to accomplish by asking a question like this? Komonzia (talk) 15:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Thx. Resolved 79.177.151.182 (talk) 15:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
I don't believe it. A publisher doesn't have necessarily a publisher, because it normally is not an author. A keyholder could be a trusted neighbour,who doesn't work at the shop and is therefore not its own keyholder (at least in relation to the shop). Of course in relation to its own living quarters mostly everybody is a keyholder, but that was not part of the definition. Even a translator doesn't translate itself when it expresses itself in the foreign language. At least not necessarily. Even a cleaner doesn't necessarily cleans up after itself. I know one! Personally!
When you're satisfied by these examples that don't match your description, then I would like to see the real description. 176.0.128.31 (talk) 08:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
So this is interesting linguistically and socially - the use of the word "usually" lets in a lot of the examples given, at least in some societies. However mathematically you are looking for something impossible. Lets assume that everyone has an X (or equivalently ignore those people without an X, who are also no-one's X). The relation partitions the set into subsets (i.e. the subsets include all the elements, and each element is in one and only one subset). Each subset has one self-X call it C for centre, and all the other elements (0 or more of them) point to C. Example, whole numbers under the relation "what is the remainder if you are divided by 5". 5 subsets with C=0, 1, 2, 3, 4. In every case there is a "privileged" centre, whether it would be considered superior, inferior or just special is open to interpretation. You can only have no centres in the case where there are no elements at all. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC).

Street View

Why Googlehas not launched Street View in mainland China? There do exist several user-submitted photos, mostly from landmarks and historical cities, but why Google cars have not traveled there yet? How likely is that in 2034, mainland China will have photos by Google cars if Street view is launched there?

And, why South Korea, a country with a large economy and almost no bans, still has large unphotographed areas with most minor cities and major freeways are not photographed entirely? And could North Korea ever get Street View by Google cars? --40bus (talk) 17:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Here is some info: Google Street View in Asia There are some places in China where they have it. As to future predictions, Misplaced Pages can't do that. ←Baseball Bugs carrots19:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
@40bus: https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/160276 (and see also my comment below). could North Korea ever get Street View by Google cars That is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future, and anything beyond that is unforeseeable. Polygnotus (talk) 01:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
My dream would be every country in the world having full coverage. Is that likely in next 20 years? At least Belarus's lack of Street View should be corrected. I would like to see views from every country. --40bus (talk) 06:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
"If wishes were horses...". ←Baseball Bugs carrots07:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Though a multinational, Google is at base an American company, or at least is perceived as such.
Think about the political tensions between the Peoples Republic of China, and the West in general and the USA in particular. Now ask yourself – how might the Government of China feel about American-controlled spy-cars driving around the whole of China, photographing everything visible? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 20:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
That is (obviously) not the reason; your tin foil hat is malfunctioning. The USA does not require something as lowtech as a 360 camera mounted on a car to drive through an area to spy on that area. The reason is that Google does not want to waste its money. And China has a habit of creating local state-owned alternatives to foreign services, allowing those to rip off the foreign tech, and then massively disadvantaging the foreign company. They have done this many times before. Polygnotus (talk) 01:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm not suggesting that the US would want (or need) to do this. I'm asking how the Chinese Government would welcome the appearance of it, particularly in the perception of their own people. International relations and management of internal perceptions are all about opinions, beliefs, and what can be spun, regardless of truth.
Recently, in my own country, Chinese visitors and personnel from an ostensible language school fomented a totally spurious 'incident' at a London railway terminus, by approaching a well-known busker and YouTuber filming his and others' performances on a public piano, and then insisting that he stop filming, complaining to police present that he was violating their rights by filming them. This was not done for any valid reason, but (presumably) to try to manipulate public opinion within China, and create a spurious 'grievance' to use in diplomatic discussions. Such games go on all the time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 01:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm asking how the Chinese Government would welcome the appearance of it I have answered the original question; please don't hijack this thread to ask a vaguely related question and then bring up unrelated stuff (which was not recent but a year ago, and a storm in a teacup, and your conspiracy theory is not supported by evidence). There are plenty of diplomatic incidents between China and the UK; neither side has a need to manufacture one. If you want to ask a new question, please post it in a new section. Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Telling a user "your tin foil hat is malfunctioning" is offensive, and is by itself a "hijacking" of this section. ←Baseball Bugs carrots02:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Incorrect (on both counts). And posting 2 conspiracy theories in 1 thread is a clear sign of a malfunctioning tin foil hat. Polygnotus (talk) 02:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
If you love the Chinese government so much, maybe you should have your own "tin foil hat" checked for malfunctions. ←Baseball Bugs carrots02:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for proving my point. The CCP killed insane numbers of people through brutality and incompetence. But we should still call out tin foil conspiracy nonsense. The idea that all conspiracies about the "other" must be true, just because we don't like them, is a very very dangerous one. Just like the idea that everyone who points out that some conspiracies about the "other" are false must be an "other". Polygnotus (talk) 12:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Considering Restrictions on geographic data in China, it seems correct to mention the Chinese Government as a cause. Baidu and Tencent have presumably obtained authorization, because they're not foreign organizations. This incidentally functions as protectionism. I tracked the piano thing down to Brendan Kavanagh#St. Pancras Station piano dispute, and I suppose there is a tenuous connection since it involves the UFWD and image rights.  Card Zero  (talk) 03:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Google's use of GCJ-02 coordinate data and WGS-84 sattelite images has led to weird results in the past. Polygnotus (talk) 12:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
The Surveying and Mapping Law led to 14 companies being given exclusive rights to map China. All local companies. Google Maps applied and was denied. https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/63636/ https://medium.com/@anastasia.bizyayeva/every-map-of-china-is-wrong-bc2bce145db2 Polygnotus (talk) 12:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Relations between Google and the Chinese government have been difficult for years. China wants its citizens to see only a censored version of the internet, requiring Google to filter results from its search engine. In case of Street View, the Chinese government is concerned about what their own citizens can see (and I suppose they also want to know who views which streets). Google isn't very eager to comply with all China's request, as that could be quite expensive and bad for their image in less authoritarian states. PiusImpavidus (talk) 19:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Why Somalia, Venezuela and Cuba do not have Street View yet? --40bus (talk) 23:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
This question can be answered by chatgpt or similar. Or by reading the Misplaced Pages articles about those countries. Polygnotus (talk) 01:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

December 21

Britannica

Why Encyclopaedia Britannica uses imperial units in its articles, ever for things that are measured in metric in UK such as temperatures, if it is based in UK and read by people in metric countries? --40bus (talk) 07:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

40bus, it is not based in the UK despite its British sounding name. The Encyclopaedia Britannica has been published in the United States since 1901. That's two years before the first human piloted airplane flight. Cullen328 (talk) 07:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Why it is not based in the UK? And if it is read and edited by people in metric countries, why many of its articles use imperial units first? It even uses British English spelling. And are there any similar UK-based online encyclopedias? --40bus (talk) 08:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
No. Go be bored somewhere else. Nanonic (talk) 09:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
If all else fails, you could try asking them. ←Baseball Bugs carrots16:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Webpages

Are there any web pages from late 1980s and early 1990s that are still in their original address, rather than on Internet Archive? Was it common for a company or person to have website in early 1990s? --40bus (talk) 07:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

We have a List of websites founded before 1995. The IN2P3 site from 1992 can still be visited, where you may enjoy seeing the French National Institute for Nuclear Physics and Particle Physics's contact details, a small picture of the building, and five hyperlinks. The article says there were 2,879 websites established before 1995, so no, it wasn't common.  Card Zero  (talk) 09:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Were there any websites around in 1990? This year feels still relatively recent. And are there any saved TV broadcasts from that time in the web, from any country? --40bus (talk) 11:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Are you just randomly asking questions? Polygnotus (talk) 12:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Take the effort to read the first sentence of List of websites founded before 1995 and you will have the answer to your question.  --Lambiam 10:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Did Donald Trump's father,

Fred, know Rudy Giuliani's father, who is said to have been a mob contract killer? I'm asking because I've heard rumors somewhere that both Donald and Fred had mob contacts in New York City.Rich (talk) 22:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

"Said to have been"; is there a reliable source that claims this? It has also been said that Donald Trump is a shape shifting lizard. Harold Giuliani was at the bottom of the low end of shady dealings in the Italian immigrant community. It seems extremely unlikely that Fred Trump, a high-profile successful real-estate developer from the German immigrant community, would have a reason to meet him.  --Lambiam 10:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Well, that's what the OP is asking. You're just repeating the OP's question using different words. --Viennese Waltz 10:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
The OP did not ask whether it was plausible but whether it was true. Even if the mob contract killer story should prove more than randomly created innuendo, there is still nothing to suggest the two fathers ever met. The suggested mob contacts would not make this more likely than two random New Yorkers (like Henri who sometimes ordered pizza and Freddy who sometimes delivered pizza) knowing each other. It is very difficult to prove a negative, but the question implied the OP thought it was at least plausible, which, as I tried to point out, it is not.  --Lambiam 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
No insult intended to shape-shifting lizards. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
(it's easy for you to google that the rumors are out there, Lambiam.Rich (talk) 18:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
I did not dispute the rumours exist, but IMO they are irrelevant to the question whether the two fathers knew each other, so I ignored them.  --Lambiam 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Giuliani gave a eulogy and he probably would have mentioned it if they knew eachother, but it doesn't seem like he did. https://nypost.com/1999/06/30/trump-patriarch-eulogized-as-great-builder/ Polygnotus (talk) 18:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
https://stevevillano.medium.com/the-trumps-an-incestuous-intertwining-with-organized-crime-ab65316c2b48
Rich (talk) 19:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for finding this, Polygnotus. But are you sure Rudy would have mentioned it in his eulogy, being possibly embarrassed about his father's occupation? And mentioning an acquaintance with his father would not make Fred seem more illustrious, which eulogies are meant to do. Rich (talk) 19:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
No, I haven't found definitive proof. Polygnotus (talk) 12:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

December 22

Policy related to places

Hello,

I want to add an article for a place in delhi cantonment. However, i am unsure about the relevant Misplaced Pages policies on this topic. I tried searching on DuckDuckGo to no avail And the results of Misplaced Pages search gave unrelated things. What are the relevant policies? KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 11:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

You may find this guide a good starting point. Be sure in particular to study the section on notability. You may also want to look up articles about similar places (if those articles exist) and review them to get a sense of what does and does not go into such an article.
It looks like you're new to Misplaced Pages. (Welcome!) You may find it easier to write an article from scratch and get it past article review or new pages patrol if you spend some time here first editing other pages and getting to understand the culture. That's not a strict requirement, just something a lot of people benefit from when they first arrive! -- Avocado (talk) 14:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
And the place for new editors to ask questions is the Misplaced Pages:Teahouse (although we're happy to help here too, especially with references). Alansplodge (talk) 15:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Indian city classification

I was looking at Classification of Indian cities. In tier Y, there are more than 100 cities listed. But in the reference given there are only 88. I even looked what appears to be official website, there's no new circular of new list. Are there any other circulars or should I just remove extra cities. Also, as my main purpose to look for a tier classification, was to use it as approximation for urban (Tier X and Y) and rural districts (Tier Z). Is there any other department which does this kind of classification, please let me know. -- Parnaval (talk) 17:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

That circular by the Department of Expenditure indicates that classification of cities depends on the latest census. Entities using the classification after yearly update seemingly are easy to find ( https://7thpaycommissionnews.in/classification-of-indian-cities/), regarding a specific source explicitly mentioning their is an update the department link to look for has to be related to the census. --Askedonty (talk) 21:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

December 27

Black Cube, Melissa Nathan,&U.S. presidential candidates

Black Cube has a wikipedia article, Melissa Nathan is mentioned in the article It Ends with Us. Both are googleable. My question is if either Black Cube or Melissa Nathan were ever hired to discredit John Kerry or Hillary Clinton? I realize that in Melissa Nathan's case, if she had been hired for that, it would probably have been before she formed The Agency Group PR.Rich (talk) 06:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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