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== James Amann ==

Removing criticism from a politician's article leads one to believe there's an agenda here

== Your contribution ==

Hey, love your DANGER sign...may I borrow?

Anyway, I'm here about your recent contribution to WWII lists. This needs to be done in all the lists, so I was going to ask for a Bot request to do it. Are you doing this by hand? If so, please stop and prevent yourself from getting ] :) However, your good intention and help is appreciated, cheers--] (]) ♠<font color="#BB0000">♥</font><font color="#BB0000">♦</font>♣ 00:41, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:I have a find and replace js that allows me to mass fix them in about 30 seconds, Ill go ahead and fix the rest then. ] 00:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::should be converted to the better format now. ] 00:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I placed a request for ] in Bot requests that may be Misplaced Pages-wide if you want to have a look at that also.--] (]) ♠<font color="#BB0000">♥</font><font color="#BB0000">♦</font>♣ 01:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Request for arbitration ==

I have filed a request for arbitration which involves you. Please see ]. ] 17:45, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:Take it for what it's worth, but my advice is to not bother replying there unless requested by the ArbCom, let others defend you. This looks to me like a frivolous complaint by someone with a grudge, based on the extremely POV language in the dispute. But do whatever you think is best. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Conclusion of the AN thread ==

Per the consensus of the thread on ], the ] has gained community consensus. You are prohibited from running automated programs to make edits (or edits that appear to be automated), on either a bot account, or your main account. You are also placed under civility parole, and any edit which is seen as uncivil by an uninvolved administrator may lead to a block. Failure to comply with either of these restrictions will lead to a block of up to one week. These restrictions are in place until the community decide that the remedies are no longer appropriate. Regards, ] 00:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

:Beta, I'd say you're pushing it already with the run of double redirect fixes. It's not like fixing double redirects is a bad thing, but making the same kind of edit every 10 seconds is somewhere on the boundary of "edits that appear to be automated".
:Automation can go on without your help. There are existing double-redirect bots out there. ] / ] 22:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Apparently you need some clarification of what exactly the restriction means. You aren't allowed to make any bot type, automated edits. All your edits should be done manually, and each edit should be checked by yourself before making it. Your contributions should show this as well, and you shouldn't make edits that appear in anyway automated - generic edit summaries like the ones you did for the double redirects are not acceptable. If you did this again, you'd get yourself a block. ] 22:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:Do you suggest that he type the summary differently each time? There are only so many ways you can say the same thing, and if you want to be assuming bad faith, a bot can just as easily use more than one summary as a usual editor can. Last I checked (and I have been away a bit), showing dedication to the project by doing tough or repetitive, boring work was considered to be a good thing, not a crime. Operating at a higher efficiency than other editors is also not a crime, unless it's obvious that he's using a bot. Like, if it said "Using AWB". Not if he copies and pastes edit summaries. You, for example, have used the summary "Welcoming user using ]" 471 times, "Your recent edits" 402 times, and "warn" 375 times in your career. I've used "Welcome to wikipedia!" 942 times, and, somehow (no clue why) "I vandalize myself" 57 times. That doesn't mean ''we're'' running unauthorized bots. Edit summaries are really not a valid way to enforce this sort of thing. --]]]<small>(st47)</small> 23:09, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::Of course it doesn't, but this gives the impression that he's using bots, which he's banned from. I've gone through and checked the edits, as I'm sure other users have to check for mistakes, which is exactly the reason he's banned from using bots. He's banned from making edits that appear to be automated - these appear to be automated, so if it was to happen again, he'd be blocked. ] 23:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:::and whoever placed the block on zero proof would be at arbcom for abuse of admin tools. I was not using a bot. so if I was fighting vandalism and use the same edit summary Im a bot? give me a break and do something productive, something Im trying to do. ] 23:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::No, you can't make edits like this, period. You can't appear to be making automated edits from your account, and these certainly did appear to be automated. ] 23:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Im sorry if you cant see the difference between automated and not, these where not automated and I dont care what you say Ill edit what I want to, end of story. ] 23:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
It appears to me that the community has gone a bit overboard with its restrictions on Betacommand. It appears that we are saying that he can not make use of any of the semi-automated tools such as Vandel Proof, Twinkle, AWB, etc; thats seems excessive to me. As far as making repetative edits as a rate of 1 every ten seconds, that seems reasonable to me usings one of the semi-automatic tools. If he were running a bot I would expect to see edit rates in excess of 10 per second rather than 6 per minute. Let's be a bit more reasonable and not jump to the conclusion that Betacommand is ignoring the restrictions. ] <sup>(])</sup> 00:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

== Vandal Proof Request Backlog, Can you clear it? ] (]) 11:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC) ==

Vandal Proof Request Backlog, Can you clear it? ] (]) 11:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== Polish categories ==
I am back from the conference, what should I do with regards to our task and ]?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 23:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Why did you call it vandalisim that I changed the wording in the warning? --] (]) 19:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:editing others comments on talk pages is vandalism. ] 20:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:He's right, if someone else says it, you have no right to change it, even if you think your making it better/more accurate. We have ] for pages that blatantly cause problems. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 20:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

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