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Can someone provide me a link or explaination as to why the nuts are toxic to dogs and not to humans? and if so, is it toxic to all family pets? | |||
Macadamia nuts are the most expensive nut by weight, commonly found in American stores, retailing for about 1/3 more than pistachios. There is nothing in article to reflect the luxury connotation. Or how they are used. Or even how they taste. | |||
Macadamia nut has became a symbol of Hawaiian despite its Australian origin, the same way Kiwi fruit became a symbol of New Zealand despite its Chinese origin. Are there any Australian or Californian produced Macadamia nut products that do not use the Hawaiian image? | |||
This article needs more about macadamia nuts, themselves. | |||
I've never seen any Australian macadamia product that's Hawaiian. They're all produce of Australia. ] 06:10, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC) | |||
Information on the rarity of ''Macadamia tetraphylla'' sourced from the NSW National Parks book "Threatened Species of the Upper North Coast of New South Wales - Flora" ] 18:51, 17 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
Like, what foods are they found in? I'm eating some macadamia nut cookies right now, and that must be one of the most common founds to have macadamia nuts incorporated. and cookies are mentioned nowhere in this article, or even just nut mixes. | |||
The linnaean names ''M. integrifolia'' and ''M. ternifolia'' are often confused - the former is edible and the latter is toxic. Be sure to check first if you are planting trees.] 15:51, 29 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
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They're expensive here too in eastern Australia where they're native. Reasons? Fussy growing conditions, take 6-7 years to fruit and they don't produce that much per tree. ] 08:54, 25 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Well, I've always called them Macadamia'''n''' nuts, and Google™ | |||
Results 1 - 10 of about 27,800 for "Macadamian nuts". (0.21 seconds) | |||
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shows I'm not alone (though I'm willing to get on the Macadamia bandwagon). So do mention it as an alternative name. ] (]) 01:25, 11 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I'm with you, and i'm from Honolulu where they (and labeled packages) are quite common. I'm quite surprised to see those google results, frankly. | |||
Not to mention the labour required to crack the shell, have you ever tried to crack a nut? Its like nature's own "tamper proof" package.--] 15:09, 31 March 2006 (UTC)Lucas | |||
:BTW, I have also seen them called "Macadams" somewhere -- either Australia or the UK -- but the article makes no allowance for that. | |||
Coming from Australia, I can say that no Australian macadamia products use the Hawaiian image in Australia at least. However, the macadamia varieties that really established the industry in Australia were developed in Hawaii from stock oiginally imported from Australia in the 19th century, and re-imported back into Australia in the 20th Century. And I believe that much of the Australian produce was/is sold via Hawaii, which has maintained the established macadamia trade networks. | |||
Regarding the original commercial orchard in Lismore, I've sorced information from a book titled "Macadamia Power In A Nutshell", by J.Power,1982, Tudor Press, ISBN 0-9592892-0-8. ] 19.50, 29 July 2006. | |||
:Can anyone confirm such usage? Macadam usually refers to roads and pavement and such. ] (]) 07:06, 19 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
:This Hawaiian aspect is not brought out enough in the article at the moment. John, I believe your point is valid and important. Why not add it in? | |||
== Incorrect Number of Species and Updated Taxonomy == | |||
:The 'Cultivation and uses' section could be split up, into maybe cultivation (how it grows) and 'Commercial', including the Hawaiian connection. Then the bits about poisoning dogs etc could go into an 'Other' section of their own. ] 07:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
There are now only four species of Macadamia restricted to central eastern Australia all other species from Northern Australia and other countries are now placed in the genus Lasjia see (Mast et al 2008) http://www.amjbot.org/content/95/7/843.full.pdf <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:09, 4 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Citation number 14 used in this article: | |||
How could this nut be part of the staple diet for Hyacinth Macaw's if the Hyacinth Macaw is indigenous to only South America while the Macadamia Nut is indigenous to only Australia? Is it just the case that Macadamia nut plantations have become common in South America and this has recently introduced the nut into the Macaw's diet? It seems to be a strange thing to say. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
"Nuts! Cops use holiday treat in drug sting", Chicago Sun Times, December 24, 2004. Accessed November 21, 2007. | |||
Is outdated and no longer available. ] (]) | |||
== Production section == | |||
The last paragraph needs to be translated into plain English or deleted. | |||
== Turkey == | |||
==Trivia== | |||
Will they grow in Turkey? Which sort? integrifolia? Where can i find some macadamia seedlings in Europe? --] 05:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
Lots of things eat these nuts - Using my torch I can see a rat eat a Macadamia nut in a tree in my front yard right now. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Need a reliable source, not personal anecdote. | |||
=="Nut"== | |||
The Macadamia is not a true biological nut. | |||
Is it possible if we can remove all of the "Nut" terms used, and introduce the "Nut" into trivia or something? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:If you provide a reliable source and explain why, then please add. But not to "trivia" section because that should be removed and moved into prose. The ] article implies they meet the culinary definition, but not biological, without giving a source either. ] (]) 00:46, 29 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
::The article ] indicates whether each culinary nut is a botanical nut or something else. It lists the macadamia as a "]. And the beginning of this article describes the fruit of the macadamia as a follicle, too. When it speaks later of nuts | |||
it means in the culinary, not the botanical, sense. So I guess it's covered, although it might be made more clear. ] (]) 17:28, 5 August 2011 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza | |||
Also, the cashew is not a nut, they are seeds (https://en.wikipedia.org/Cashew#Cashew_.22nut.22) <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:53, 11 February 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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== Polish weddings? == | |||
The whole reference to Polish weddings ("In Poland . . . as seen in Polish culture during celebrations, the groom will after cracking begin to dance in a jovial manner "), including the citations, appears to be a practical joke (and not a particularly funny one). The target of both citations appears to be a legitimate Polish culture web site, but without any references to Macadamia nuts (which, not being indigenous to Poland, seem an unlikely element of Polish culture).] (]) 00:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
found it @ --http://seedrack.com/06.html --] 21:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
I have actually danced during my Polish wedding after cracking some macadams. There is even a traditional song in some wojewodztwa (Polish provinces) to accompany this cracking sound. It goes like: "Orzeszki, pekajcie smialo". Some people (depends on wealth) use walnuts or hazelnuts instead of macadamias. (] (]) 22:07, 6 January 2012 (UTC)) | |||
== Macadamia Nut Allergy == | |||
Poland has for years used the Macadamia nut as a wedding celebratory food, and used following dancing in some cases. It serves as a Traditional piece inherited sometime in the late 1970's, 'Long time polish' <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:21, 7 July 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
I have developed an allergy to Macadamia Nuts. Stange thing is, I can eat ALL other nuts, peanuts, brazil nuts, cashews, almonds etc. | |||
Depends how Inland you go, still a practiced tradition, remember uncle doing it with his wife before the official ceremony(] (]) 22:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)) | |||
Just one macadamia nut and my body reacts defensively (within approx. 2 hours) and I'm vomiting for the next 24 hours! | |||
Can this be edited, It is more of a Northern Tradition, originating near Koszalin initially from family celebrations, it was adapted to Weddings later in the 1880s.] (]) 12:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Does anyone know why just ''this'' nut??? | |||
What is different about the Macadamia nut compared to all the others?? | |||
== M. ternifolia == | |||
I would appreciate any help with this. | |||
Thank you in advance. | |||
] 12:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
Article states it is commercially important yet poisonous. Why is it of commercial value? ] (]) <span style="font-size:smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding ] comment added 05:57, 18 July 2015 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Same with other people, except just some other nut... --] 06:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Toxicity in dogs == | |||
==Industry== | |||
I can’t find in the article what it is in macadamias that makes them toxic to dogs, and that was the reason I read it to start with. As written at present, it suggests that dogs are simply more sensitive to some constituent than humans are. I was, however, primed for that interpretation by a news article about common human foods that aren't good for dogs. Then it occurred to me that it might refer to dogs’ eating raw or unleached macadamias. Is it the cyanogenic glycosides that occur in some species? I would like to know more about this. | |||
I read in 1984 World Book that Macadamia Nuts are a 7.5 million dollar crop in Hawaii, anyone have any newer numbers? | |||
Walter Turner | |||
] (]) 07:24, 16 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I did a quick search for Google books and Pubmed references which showed toxicity from eating macadamias does occur in dogs, as stated with the one reference in the article, but nowhere was the mechanism discussed with assurance of responsible compounds like glycosides. states the toxic effect, but the whole article is not available so we are unable to see any scientific evidence for the mechanism. , there is an anecdotal discussion of the minimum toxic dose as 1 nut per kg or 20 g/kg being significantly toxic, with mention that the mechanism is unknown. Further searching indicates that macadamia poisoning in dogs is commonly recognized by vets, but there isn't a thorough analysis of the toxicology in the medical literature that I can find. Will return here if I find something. Meanwhile, the article contains mention of this and the toxic effect is easily found via Google. --] (]) 15:18, 16 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I found an online available version of the paper you found. It specifically states, "While some varieties of macadamia nuts contain toxic levels of cyanogenic glycosides, these have a bitter flavour and are not used as food." Considering the context of what types dogs would be inadvertently eating, cyanogenic glycosides appear to be ruled out as the cause. ] (]) 15:30, 16 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Fine, but how are the nuts shucked in commercial production? I cannot see lines of workers with screwdrivers prying open said nuts. --] 21:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Only endemic food plant species from the Australian continent to have been domesticated by Europeans settlers for production == | |||
==Southern Florida?== | |||
Jared Diamond in his book "Guns, Germs and Steel" (ISBN-13: 978-0393317558 ISBN-10: 0393317552 p102) claims that the macadamia nut is the only plant to have been domesticated from Australian wild stock, after the arrival of Europeans and their technology. | |||
It would seem to me, that if this plant can grow in Australia, California and Hawai'i that it could also grow in southern Florida. Can anyone verify this?? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:33, August 26, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Macadamia nuts are grown in South Florida. I am in the process of setting up a five acre grove of nuts. The gentleman I am buying my trees from has a ten acre grove and has sold enough trees to furnish about one hundred acres of nut groves. | |||
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==Commercial Production?== | |||
The commercial production section of this article is extremely short. Can anyone get any more information on commercial production? ] (]) 19:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Macadamia nuts are the most expensive nut by weight, commonly found in American stores, retailing for about 1/3 more than pistachios. There is nothing in article to reflect the luxury connotation. Or how they are used. Or even how they taste.
This article needs more about macadamia nuts, themselves.
Like, what foods are they found in? I'm eating some macadamia nut cookies right now, and that must be one of the most common founds to have macadamia nuts incorporated. and cookies are mentioned nowhere in this article, or even just nut mixes.
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MacadamiaN nuts
Well, I've always called them Macadamian nuts, and Google™
Results 1 - 10 of about 27,800 for "Macadamian nuts". (0.21 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 423,000 for "Macadamia nuts". (0.23 seconds)
shows I'm not alone (though I'm willing to get on the Macadamia bandwagon). So do mention it as an alternative name. Jidanni (talk) 01:25, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm with you, and i'm from Honolulu where they (and labeled packages) are quite common. I'm quite surprised to see those google results, frankly.
- BTW, I have also seen them called "Macadams" somewhere -- either Australia or the UK -- but the article makes no allowance for that.
- Can anyone confirm such usage? Macadam usually refers to roads and pavement and such. 66.105.218.7 (talk) 07:06, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Incorrect Number of Species and Updated Taxonomy
There are now only four species of Macadamia restricted to central eastern Australia all other species from Northern Australia and other countries are now placed in the genus Lasjia see (Mast et al 2008) http://www.amjbot.org/content/95/7/843.full.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.238.101 (talk) 14:09, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Outdated Sources
Citation number 14 used in this article: "Nuts! Cops use holiday treat in drug sting", Chicago Sun Times, December 24, 2004. Accessed November 21, 2007. Is outdated and no longer available. 74.83.87.252 (talk)
Production section
The last paragraph needs to be translated into plain English or deleted.
Trivia
Lots of things eat these nuts - Using my torch I can see a rat eat a Macadamia nut in a tree in my front yard right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.179.49 (talk) 10:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- Need a reliable source, not personal anecdote.
"Nut"
The Macadamia is not a true biological nut.
Is it possible if we can remove all of the "Nut" terms used, and introduce the "Nut" into trivia or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.73.176 (talk) 23:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- If you provide a reliable source and explain why, then please add. But not to "trivia" section because that should be removed and moved into prose. The Nut (fruit) article implies they meet the culinary definition, but not biological, without giving a source either. W Nowicki (talk) 00:46, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- The article List of culinary nuts indicates whether each culinary nut is a botanical nut or something else. It lists the macadamia as a "follicle. And the beginning of this article describes the fruit of the macadamia as a follicle, too. When it speaks later of nuts
it means in the culinary, not the botanical, sense. So I guess it's covered, although it might be made more clear. 140.147.236.195 (talk) 17:28, 5 August 2011 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
Also, the cashew is not a nut, they are seeds (https://en.wikipedia.org/Cashew#Cashew_.22nut.22) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.170.78.58 (talk) 08:53, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Polish weddings?
The whole reference to Polish weddings ("In Poland . . . as seen in Polish culture during celebrations, the groom will after cracking begin to dance in a jovial manner "), including the citations, appears to be a practical joke (and not a particularly funny one). The target of both citations appears to be a legitimate Polish culture web site, but without any references to Macadamia nuts (which, not being indigenous to Poland, seem an unlikely element of Polish culture).Hbquikcomjamesl (talk) 00:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
I have actually danced during my Polish wedding after cracking some macadams. There is even a traditional song in some wojewodztwa (Polish provinces) to accompany this cracking sound. It goes like: "Orzeszki, pekajcie smialo". Some people (depends on wealth) use walnuts or hazelnuts instead of macadamias. (46.205.50.245 (talk) 22:07, 6 January 2012 (UTC))
Poland has for years used the Macadamia nut as a wedding celebratory food, and used following dancing in some cases. It serves as a Traditional piece inherited sometime in the late 1970's, 'Long time polish' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.234.251.230 (talk) 14:21, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Depends how Inland you go, still a practiced tradition, remember uncle doing it with his wife before the official ceremony(2.2052.350.245 (talk) 22:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC))
Can this be edited, It is more of a Northern Tradition, originating near Koszalin initially from family celebrations, it was adapted to Weddings later in the 1880s.Heylow2b4l (talk) 12:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.234.251.230 (talk)
M. ternifolia
Article states it is commercially important yet poisonous. Why is it of commercial value? 58.146.182.73 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:57, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Toxicity in dogs
I can’t find in the article what it is in macadamias that makes them toxic to dogs, and that was the reason I read it to start with. As written at present, it suggests that dogs are simply more sensitive to some constituent than humans are. I was, however, primed for that interpretation by a news article about common human foods that aren't good for dogs. Then it occurred to me that it might refer to dogs’ eating raw or unleached macadamias. Is it the cyanogenic glycosides that occur in some species? I would like to know more about this. Walter Turner 93.202.102.125 (talk) 07:24, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- I did a quick search for Google books and Pubmed references which showed toxicity from eating macadamias does occur in dogs, as stated with the one reference in the article, but nowhere was the mechanism discussed with assurance of responsible compounds like glycosides. This is one states the toxic effect, but the whole article is not available so we are unable to see any scientific evidence for the mechanism. In this book on small animal toxicology, page 818 for dogs, there is an anecdotal discussion of the minimum toxic dose as 1 nut per kg or 20 g/kg being significantly toxic, with mention that the mechanism is unknown. Further searching indicates that macadamia poisoning in dogs is commonly recognized by vets, but there isn't a thorough analysis of the toxicology in the medical literature that I can find. Will return here if I find something. Meanwhile, the article contains mention of this and the toxic effect is easily found via Google. --Zefr (talk) 15:18, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- I found an online available version of the paper you found. It specifically states, "While some varieties of macadamia nuts contain toxic levels of cyanogenic glycosides, these have a bitter flavour and are not used as food." Considering the context of what types dogs would be inadvertently eating, cyanogenic glycosides appear to be ruled out as the cause. Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:30, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Only endemic food plant species from the Australian continent to have been domesticated by Europeans settlers for production
Jared Diamond in his book "Guns, Germs and Steel" (ISBN-13: 978-0393317558 ISBN-10: 0393317552 p102) claims that the macadamia nut is the only plant to have been domesticated from Australian wild stock, after the arrival of Europeans and their technology.
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