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Hi I am Julia. I have edited under the name southkept but lost the password and can not get into the account. can anyone help me ? {{unsigned|User:Julia1987}} 10:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC) Hi I am Julia. I have edited under the name southkept but lost the password and can not get into the account. can anyone help me ? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> 10:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:Did you specify an email address in your preferences?<span style="cursor: crosshair">......] .. <small>]</small><sup>]</sup></span> 10:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC) :Did you specify an email address in your preferences?<span style="cursor: crosshair">......] .. <small>]</small><sup>]</sup></span> 10:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::Remove <code>tnull|</code> from the helpme template above when you give a response<span style="cursor: crosshair">......] .. <small>]</small><sup>]</sup></span> 10:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC) ::Remove <code>tnull|</code> from the helpme template above when you give a response<span style="cursor: crosshair">......] .. <small>]</small><sup>]</sup></span> 10:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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Sarcasm doesn't go over so great on the web. Despite the temptation, and I know how great that temptation is; you should avoid it and be clear on your statements. I would suggest refactoring that comment and asserting your view with more clarity.<br> Sarcasm doesn't go over so great on the web. Despite the temptation, and I know how great that temptation is; you should avoid it and be clear on your statements. I would suggest refactoring that comment and asserting your view with more clarity.<br>
With respect, <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 17:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)<br> With respect, <b>]'']''</b> 17:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)<br>
p.s. if I misread into your comment, than I apologize. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 17:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC) p.s. if I misread into your comment, than I apologize. <b>]'']''</b> 17:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


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I think you should take the 'fringe' issue to ]. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>'']''</sup></font></b> 19:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC) I think you should take the 'fringe' issue to ]. <b>]'']''</b> 19:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


==Al-Durrah== ==Al-Durrah==
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This notice is only effective if given by an administrator and logged ]. -- ] (]) 08:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC) This notice is only effective if given by an administrator and logged ]. -- ] (]) 08:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:Please note that ChrisO is an involved administrator in several ways, and cannot personally sanction you for disagreeing with him. ]<sup>]</sup> 04:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

::Hello Julia1987, regarding Jayjg's comment, I agree that ChrisO cannot apply sanctions against you, because he is deemed to be involved in the editing dispute. However, now that you have been notified, an uninvolved admin could apply sanctions. Looking at your recent edits, I'm concerned that your talk page edits aren't entirely focused on article improvement. Accordingly, I suggest you have a look at the ]. In particular, please take care to avoid the appearance of ]. Thank-you. ] (]) 00:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

==Tone==
Julia, please, remember, try to avoid "you" and "your". It's not necessary to directly confront editors on the talkpage. Let that be my job, and you can focus on the article. If you think that I am not properly addressing disruption, you can bring it up on my talkpage if I haven't gotten to it in a timely manner. So please, try harder to "stick to the article"? Thanks, ]]] 18:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
: Erm, I think you need to get caught up a bit. Check ChrisO's talkpage. And then, please, remove anything from ] which is about editors, as opposed to being about the article. Remember, "you" and "your". :) Thanks, --]]] 03:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

==Editing restriction==
{{user|Julia1987}}, as you know, there are ] at ], an article where you have been participating to exclusion of all else, since your account was created on May 22. One of the conditions is "no reverts". On June 14 at 07:10, ChrisO added some information that was well-sourced. At 14:11, you deleted it, without a sufficiently good reason. This is a bit of a "grey area" revert since there were other intervening edits, but that it came so close after ChrisO's edit, plus that you were removing a valid source, combined with some of your activities, and the fact that your account is being used for a ], have raised sufficient concerns that I am imposing some restrictions on your editing, per the above ArbCom case. I am not entirely banning you from the article or talkpage, but I am asking you to avoid edits to the ] of the article for the next 30 days (this includes the image and its caption). It is also my strong recommendation that you spend some time editing other articles, which will help you to gain experience in Misplaced Pages's procedures. In the meantime, you are still welcome to make other (non-lead) edits to the ] article, and continue participating at the talkpage. Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions, --]]] 15:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

==Appeal of page ban==

Julia1987, please note that I have appealed Elonka's page ban against me. As the matter centers on your edits to ], I am notifying you of the appeal, which you can see at ]. -- ] (]) 20:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hello. I'm going to take over this MedCab case and try to work this stuff out. I posted in the talk page what I would like all participants to do to start. Hopefully this all works out well, I have zero intention of leaning towards any one side in this dispute, and I only care about getting it taken care of. ] 18:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

== Rfc on elonka ==

here: ]

I don't know but it seems like a request for comment ought to go out to those involved, and while I have not seen you at the al-Durra page for awhile thought you would be interested. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Hi I am Julia. I have edited under the name southkept but lost the password and can not get into the account. can anyone help me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Julia1987 (talkcontribs) 10:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Did you specify an email address in your preferences?...... Dendodge .. Talk 10:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Remove tnull| from the helpme template above when you give a response...... Dendodge .. Talk 10:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Note

Sarcasm doesn't go over so great on the web. Despite the temptation, and I know how great that temptation is; you should avoid it and be clear on your statements. I would suggest refactoring that comment and asserting your view with more clarity.
With respect, Jaakobou 17:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
p.s. if I misread into your comment, than I apologize. Jaakobou 17:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Resilience

The Resilient Barnstar
For taking note from comments and suggestions and for the ability to recover/finish with a smile. Jaakobou 22:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Note

I think you should take the 'fringe' issue to WP:FTN. Jaakobou 19:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Al-Durrah

I read what was made public in Liberation. I have made some of the same points you have made, regarding freedom of speech, on the article's Talk page. Canadian Monkey (talk) 16:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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Please note that ChrisO is an involved administrator in several ways, and cannot personally sanction you for disagreeing with him. Jayjg 04:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello Julia1987, regarding Jayjg's comment, I agree that ChrisO cannot apply sanctions against you, because he is deemed to be involved in the editing dispute. However, now that you have been notified, an uninvolved admin could apply sanctions. Looking at your recent edits, I'm concerned that your talk page edits aren't entirely focused on article improvement. Accordingly, I suggest you have a look at the talk page guidelines. In particular, please take care to avoid the appearance of soap boxing. Thank-you. PhilKnight (talk) 00:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Tone

Julia, please, remember, try to avoid "you" and "your". It's not necessary to directly confront editors on the talkpage. Let that be my job, and you can focus on the article. If you think that I am not properly addressing disruption, you can bring it up on my talkpage if I haven't gotten to it in a timely manner. So please, try harder to "stick to the article"? Thanks, Elonka 18:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Erm, I think you need to get caught up a bit. Check ChrisO's talkpage. And then, please, remove anything from Talk:Muhammad al-Durah which is about editors, as opposed to being about the article. Remember, "you" and "your".  :) Thanks, --Elonka 03:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Editing restriction

Julia1987 (talk · contribs), as you know, there are conditions for editing at Talk:Muhammad al-Durrah, an article where you have been participating to exclusion of all else, since your account was created on May 22. One of the conditions is "no reverts". On June 14 at 07:10, ChrisO added some information that was well-sourced. At 14:11, you deleted it, without a sufficiently good reason. This is a bit of a "grey area" revert since there were other intervening edits, but that it came so close after ChrisO's edit, plus that you were removing a valid source, combined with some of your activities, and the fact that your account is being used for a single purpose, have raised sufficient concerns that I am imposing some restrictions on your editing, per the above ArbCom case. I am not entirely banning you from the article or talkpage, but I am asking you to avoid edits to the lead of the article for the next 30 days (this includes the image and its caption). It is also my strong recommendation that you spend some time editing other articles, which will help you to gain experience in Misplaced Pages's procedures. In the meantime, you are still welcome to make other (non-lead) edits to the Muhammad al-Durrah article, and continue participating at the talkpage. Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions, --Elonka 15:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Appeal of page ban

Julia1987, please note that I have appealed Elonka's page ban against me. As the matter centers on your edits to Muhammad al-Durrah, I am notifying you of the appeal, which you can see at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Request for appeal: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-06-17 Muhammad al-Durrah

Hello. I'm going to take over this MedCab case and try to work this stuff out. I posted in the talk page what I would like all participants to do to start. Hopefully this all works out well, I have zero intention of leaning towards any one side in this dispute, and I only care about getting it taken care of. Wizardman 18:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Rfc on elonka

here: WP:Requests_for_comment/Elonka

I don't know but it seems like a request for comment ought to go out to those involved, and while I have not seen you at the al-Durra page for awhile thought you would be interested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tundrabuggy (talkcontribs) 14:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)