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'''TenPoundHammer's Law''': If the name of a future album is not yet known, the album is very likely to see its page deleted from Misplaced Pages. In other words, any page that takes the form "'s studio album" or such will most likely end up gone.
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], then do not title the article "'s studio album".]]

Pages of this sort usually take the naming convention "'s studio album". There are occasional exceptions to this law, as sometimes a future album ''will'' contain enough verifiable information for a decent article even if the title is not known.<ref>For example, '']'' by ] had a fully fledged article before its name was announced, because the page already contained sufficient sourced information for an article. Similarly, '']'' by ] had sufficient content to warrant an article years before a track listing was finalized.</ref> But if all you can do is ] or base your information off rumors posted to message boards, blogs, or Facebook, then it's best ''not'' to create a page on the album until you've got something more to say. Misplaced Pages ]; it's not going to hurt you to wait.<ref>Also consider the fact that arguments like "''everybody'' knows it will be put out soon" or "this is going to be 's biggest album", or worst of all, "you just hate , don't you?" don't hold water.</ref> And if that wasn't enough, exacerbating the issue even more is that if the article is ], performing ] is made extremely difficult by the fact that, ''by definition'', no genuine search term exists.

This also applies to discographies; please try to refrain from listing "TBD" in a list of the band's albums, unless of course the album is actually ''called'' "TBD".<ref> One of many examples </ref> Again, it won't hurt you to wait.

==Other applications==
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By extension, TenPoundHammer's law can also refer to any future subject for which a name is not yet known and no ] from ] yet exists.<ref>] is the first deletion discussion to cite this essay beyond the scope of albums.</ref> This might include "future" ]s,<ref>In particular those which ]</ref> ], computer hardware, ], books, ]s, ] and other types of media and products. It can even apply to a future band whose name and final members aren't known,<ref>Yes, that actually happened; see </ref> proposed constitutions,<ref>]</ref> or professional sports teams that do not know what league they will play in.<ref>See ]</ref> It could also apply to speculation about potential or theoretical, but undiscovered, chemicals.<ref>See the discussions at ] and ].</ref>

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TenPoundHammer's Law

If the name and track order of a future album are not yet known, the album is very likely to have its page deleted from Misplaced Pages.

If you do not want to feel the holy wrath of the thunder god, then do not title the article "'s studio album".

Pages of this sort usually take the naming convention "'s studio album". There are occasional exceptions to this law, as sometimes a future album will contain enough verifiable information for a decent article even if the title is not known. But if all you can do is look into a crystal ball or base your information off rumors posted to message boards, blogs, or Facebook, then it's best not to create a page on the album until you've got something more to say. Misplaced Pages isn't going anywhere; it's not going to hurt you to wait. And if that wasn't enough, exacerbating the issue even more is that if the article is nominated for deletion, performing the relevant pre-checks for sources online is made extremely difficult by the fact that, by definition, no genuine search term exists.

This also applies to discographies; please try to refrain from listing "TBD" in a list of the band's albums, unless of course the album is actually called "TBD". Again, it won't hurt you to wait.

Other applications

Other media aside from music can also be susceptible to the hammer of WP:AfD

By extension, TenPoundHammer's law can also refer to any future subject for which a name is not yet known and no verifiable information from reliable sources yet exists. This might include "future" video games, movies, computer hardware, consoles, books, DVDs, software and other types of media and products. It can even apply to a future band whose name and final members aren't known, proposed constitutions, or professional sports teams that do not know what league they will play in. It could also apply to speculation about potential or theoretical, but undiscovered, chemicals.

Footnotes

  1. For example, In Rainbows by Radiohead had a fully fledged article before its name was announced, because the page already contained sufficient sourced information for an article. Similarly, Chinese Democracy by Guns N' Roses had sufficient content to warrant an article years before a track listing was finalized.
  2. Also consider the fact that arguments like "everybody knows it will be put out soon" or "this is going to be 's biggest album", or worst of all, "you just hate , don't you?" don't hold water.
  3. One of many examples here
  4. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Wii 2 is the first deletion discussion to cite this essay beyond the scope of albums.
  5. In particular those which have not even started their funding campaign
  6. Yes, that actually happened; see this comment
  7. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Next constitution of Zimbabwe
  8. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Carolina Silverhawks
  9. See the discussions at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Nitrofullerenes and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ununoctium fluoride.

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