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==help with]== | |||
== ] == | |||
Original article ] was just about one single name-brand of electronic bagpipes, with all other variants dumped into one sub-section. Since the scope had clearly expanded (and an article about one single marketed product didn't seem appropriate) I re-named the whole article ] and downplayed the Deger variant. However, the article is still awfully sparse and could use some editing from any e-pipers. ] (]) 11:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Accordion expertise sought == | |||
I recently had a great opportunity to photograph some old and rare accordions (and could probably get to photograph more at a later date). However, I don't know a great deal about accordions. The images are at ]. If someone can add more detail to some of the descriptions there, it would be appreciated; also, some of these might be useful to illustrate one or another Misplaced Pages article. - ] | ] 20:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
While we're on the subject (if this project isn't totally dead), there's no info on Cajun accordion music. I'll go try and rile up some Cajuns on an outside discussion board. ] (]) 12:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
I cut out ] to its own article, ditto with ] and ]. Tahitian and Reso both have enough material to justify articles in their own right, but Electric is still just a stub and could use some work. ] (]) 11:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
This article needs additional references and major expansion. Constructive comments for improving the article on the talk page would be helpful from editors who don't have the time to participate. Thanks. —] | ] 13:49, 25 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Vital article == | |||
I'd like to start a drive to get ] up to FA status. It is listed at ] and is marked top-priority for this WikiProject. I am doing some research right now to find sources. I have also requested three books from the library that should be a good start. If anyone is interested, please visit ] and read the most recent heading. I'd like to start by developing a working outline so we can at least identify what ''should'' be in the article. Thanks! --] (]) 19:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== "Chordophones" vs. "String Instruments" == | |||
There seems to be quite a stick mess with the issue of the term "Chordophone". The category exists, with essentially no articles of its own which can't be just as easily filed under "Stringed Instrument" subcats. Its only subcats are "Stringed Instruments" itself, and "Composite String Instruments", which has a nearly 1:1 concurrence with the "Harps" subcat. | |||
Should we just moved "Stringed Instruments" into the "Musical Instruments" subcategories and do away with "Chordophones" entirely? It seems, at present, to hold no particular use. | |||
] (]) 17:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
There is a tendency, primarily in European books to use Chordophones. They prefer specific terminology. My feelings are;: Keep chordophones. ] (]) 12:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Clearing out the clutter from "Musical Instruments" == | |||
Further, the vast majority of articles sitting in the "MI" category already fall under one or more subcategories. Yes, they are musical instruments, but there's no need to file them in every single sub-cat from "Music" to "Musical Instruments" to "String Instruments" to "Zithers" to "Box Zithers" etc. ad infinitum. | |||
Is anyone going to put up a huge fuss if I go through and move the categorizable articles into their appropriate categories? I already went through and did this for "String Instruments", categorizing about 100 out of 300 articles, and only managed to ruffle two feathers. Different editors insisted that ] and ] stay in the main category rather than a subcat. *shrug* | |||
There's probably a way to subcat 95% of the remaining articles in "String Instruments" or remove their overcategorization, but I'm loathe to dive into trying to categorize a large variety of non-WestEuropean instruments, since some subcats are organological ("long-necked lutes"), and others are historical-genetic ("mandolin family instruments"). If anyone has any input, I'm all game. | |||
] (]) 17:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:If the subcats are correct, it would be fine. The kora is a harp-lute and the washtub bass isn't a double bass. ] (]) 18:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I'm certainly open to being corrected, and no dispute on the two you mention. The washtub bass (and about eight similar instruments) can probably go in some sort of subcat though. Any ideas? They're almost Musical Bows, but I don't want to get too doctrinal here. ] (]) 19:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
Good question. There's a lot of variation in construction. Maybe something like "bass string instruments" or "bass plucked string instruments." The biggest problem with the musical instruments subcats is that they overlap too much, some being "common sense" terms and others being very specific organological categories, with the later making it take up to 5 or more clicks to find common lutes (which is why I added some more of the lute subcats on the main cat page). An elegant solution should be found. ] (]) 21:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
Definitely agree with you there. One potential solution would be to have parallel chains of subcats for technical vs. cultural distinctions. Though there would be some initial brain-pain, one possibility would be to break out both "Chordophones" and "String Instruments" from "Musical Instruments". "Chordophones" could follow the Hornbostel-Sachs system of very dry "short-necked bowl-back lutes" details, and "String Instruments" could be more historo-genetic categories like "Banjos" (meaning instruments directly related to early American banjos, not just string instruments witha head) and "Lutes" (meaning theoboros and the like, not just necked strings). | |||
There would end up being quite a bit of overlap, but two basically different category trees branching out from Musical Instruments. How does the idea strike you? | |||
] (]) 07:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ], why not just call it ] or whatever? == | |||
All but a couple of these articles are about Stradivarii. Why not just rename the subcat "Stradivarii", separate out the others into "Luthiers" or "Violin makers" and move the whole subcat over? | |||
] (]) 18:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
Hi there, i'm loved to be included in this wikiproject. it is about a typical Chinese percussion musical instrument. | |||
== Revising the Instrument Infobox == | |||
== Pitch nomenclature in the WP:MOS == | |||
I've been taking a look at the instrument infobox, and it seems rather haphazardly non-standardized and lacking some potentially useful features. I've thus cooked up ] of what I think the infobox should look like at the bare minimum, and I'm trying to hold a discussion on the ]. I hope people take a look at it and discuss there. --] (]) 03:45, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
: Replied there. --] ] 05:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
If you have any opinions on use of ] notation for organ stops or wind instruments (e.g. 8′ or 16′ etc.), there is a discussion on the Manual of Style ] (]). Any useful input appreciated. It seems that current MOS rules preclude the use of the prime character to denote the foot as a unit, e.g. 8′ (prime) vs 8' (apostrophe) but this notation is more or less ''de-rigueur'' in music literature. — ] (]) 23:17, 17 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Revival == | |||
==Page move on Jew's harp== | |||
So, is anyone interested in getting this project going again? --] ] 18:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
The discussion is: ]. ] (]) 18:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Role call == | |||
== Violin Bow sells for over $600,000 == | |||
I'd like to get an informal role call of editors still willing to work on this project so we know who we're working with (type <nowiki>*~~~</nowiki> on a new line): | |||
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*] (]) 02:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC) (I have some thoughts on a new infobox, if someone with more coding skills can help) | |||
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nd Brazilian Rosewood ] (]) 17:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Ga Push of ]? == | |||
== Good article reassessment for ] == | |||
The article is very good and well-referenced. I think it should go up for ]. ~'''<font color="green">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><font color="red">]</font> 20:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 13:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Hi there, i'm loved to be included in this wikiproject. it is about a typical Chinese percussion musical instrument.
Pitch nomenclature in the WP:MOS
If you have any opinions on use of eight-foot pitch notation for organ stops or wind instruments (e.g. 8′ or 16′ etc.), there is a discussion on the Manual of Style Dates and Numbers talk page (archived). Any useful input appreciated. It seems that current MOS rules preclude the use of the prime character to denote the foot as a unit, e.g. 8′ (prime) vs 8' (apostrophe) but this notation is more or less de-rigueur in music literature. — Jon (talk) 23:17, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Page move on Jew's harp
The discussion is: Talk:Jew's harp#Requested move 19 March 2024. REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 18:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Violin Bow sells for over $600,000
nd Brazilian Rosewood 24.230.105.223 (talk) 17:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Pipe organ
Pipe organ has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 13:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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