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| ! style="background-color: #CC9966; text-align: center;" |'''The ] Newsletter ''' | |||
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| ] <big>'''The ] Newsletter!'''</big><br/> Issue XV: ], ] <br/> | |||
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| Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! I'm not one to be writing newsletters, but I miss our cruise director, ], and our project is drifting along with a few leaking plugs in the bottom of the boat. Hey, it happens. Every group we join goes through changes. If Misplaced Pages weren't so interesting it wouldn't also be so frustrating sometimes. And vice versa. More than one Wikiproject has ]s blowing through it, but this is one that can't afford to let that happen. Even if you pop in to the ] of the project, you can let us know you're still around. | |||
| '''''There will be little rubs and disappointments everywhere, and we are all apt to expect too much; but then, if one scheme of happiness fails, human nature turns to another; if the first calculation is wrong, we make a second better: we find comfort somewhere.''''' ], ] | |||
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| === WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles === | |||
| It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main ] article was delisted as a ] last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to ].) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the ] about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled. | |||
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| === Is Pride POV? === | |||
| We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic ], much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is ]. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on ]? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a ] on the verandah and stop caring? | |||
| == Message from Jeff's mom == | |||
| For the love of all that is holy, no ] jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering ] Supervisor ]'s article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of ] and the ]. While it may be accurate, there is a ] regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer... | |||
| I know that this page is protected, but I'd like to draw everyones attention to a message from Jeff's mom that I've just posted on her behalf. You can view it ]. Regards, ''']<sup>See ] or ]</sup>''' 23:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
| ===Queer Studies is offensive! === | |||
| The established branch of study known as ] was brought up as an ] because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors. | |||
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| What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-], on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put <nowiki>]</nowiki> around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the ]. Or you can start with the ], where the ] received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by ]'s wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the ], which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th . The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website . | |||
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| === ], ] and ] === | |||
| Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the ] and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate. | |||
| ===This month's Wiki stars=== | |||
| This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) ] became a featured article in May. This is ] since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as ]. I don't care what ] says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think ] would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!) | |||
| ===Compulsive hoarding of templates === | |||
| Once I saw a harrowing episode of ]'s ] where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and ] in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page. | |||
| ===] and magazines=== | |||
| ] suggests we create an article on ], as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (], ], ], ], ], ], and ]). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help. | |||
| A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably '']'', '']'', and '']''. | |||
| === Mom's nagging for Pride Month === | |||
| It's June, Pride month. Wear ], stay hydrated, get a ], then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of ]s just got fed the f*ck up by the ] and dragging them all out to the pokey ''again''. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss ] | |||
| === Fresh faces to brighten our pages === | |||
| Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] , ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]. | |||
| It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Misplaced Pages. | |||
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| In the immortal words of Miss Julie, "May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your ] never turn into a ]." | |||
| We miss you, ], as well as all the others who have graced our project and are on wiki-breaks or just got fed up with all the nuttiness and went to live their lives. Get your ] and hurry up and come back. --] (]) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| <small> This newsletter was delivered by ] around 16:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC). </small>] (]) 16:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == The assault on pederasty == | |||
| They may be sockpuppets or they may be simply characters acting in cahoots with each other, gathering offsite to organize their attacks. Fact is I do not know the "parasite removal" methods at all, never bothered with all that warfare. However, for all their huffing and puffing I think they are failing: they are doing the grunt work of pointing out weaknesses in the article, helping me see where references are needed. So far I think they have strengthened the presentation of the material, and perhaps did a service by removing some stuff that was "a leap too far." I just have a bit more work to do reviewing their deletions, to make sure nothing valuable gets trashed. | |||
| That is the whole charm of the system, when it works: the harder you try to undermine legitimate material, the more irrefutable you render it. The only thing that is needed is to have more than one responsible editor keeping an eye on their shenanigans, a single player is easily overwhelmed. ] (]) 04:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ]'s age == | |||
| Your "left the building" tags made me wary to post a comment on your talk page, even though I see that you edited Misplaced Pages yesterday. | |||
| Anyway, I am wondering if you know whether the age currently given in Kim Delaney's article (that she was born in 1961) is her correct age. It's been changed back and forth a few times. ] (]) 18:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :As I stated on my talk page, thank you for the help on this matter. I very much appreciate it. ] (]) 08:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Hoi == | |||
| Welkom terug. ] ] 08:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Return== | |||
| Its great to see you back; I always saw you as one of the more reasoned voices here. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Thinking of you == | |||
| ] (]) 00:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)]] | |||
| == I'm no doubt less busy than Alison == | |||
| so I answered your question unsolicited | |||
| Cheers - ] 19:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == A welcome back present == | |||
| --] (]) 20:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Note== | |||
| Hello Jeffpw. I would advise a hands-off approach . I guess my question was answered, that the disruption article is appropriate. I'm not interested in appealing at all as I would say AnotherSolipsist does have a distinctively disruptive style. I would leave it at that. ] (]) 07:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :And I say stay the fuck off my talk page. ] (]) 07:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==RE:"who exactly do you think you are???"== | |||
| I am the administrator who instructed you accordingly. Please note that it wasn't optional. Thanks. ] 07:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Tread lightly. ] 07:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::To quote ]: Abuse of power comes as no surprise. ] (]) 07:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::Jeff, I have brought up that ANI section with a member of the Arbitration Committee, and got the ok to remove it. ALL discussion or appeals of blocks of this kind should NOT be brought up on-WP, but be made directly via email to the ArbCom mailing list. Please do not reinstate that section, or bring this up on-WP again. I don't want to be the bad guy in all of this, but if you bring it up again, you may be blocked. ] (]) 11:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::you are allowing your new found power to go to your head. Once again, your behavior is entirely unbecoming. You also seem to have no common sense (a quality which might be useful for an admin, but apparently is regarded as a handicap nowadays). I find what you and other admins here are doing to be chilling in the extreme, but threats to my editing ability, unwarranted, by fools with power to carry them out, have an effect. So I'll shut up. you win, even if you occupy a moral cesspool in this issue. ] (]) 11:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I'm sorry you feel that way. ] (]) 11:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Jeff, this is for your own good. Drop it and back away or communicate with arbcom. Continuing in the manner you have will not end well. ]] 11:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes, yes, another threat. I got the message the first time; I just didn't think attempting to have an ill considered post rewritten in a neutral manner constituted discussing a block. I already said I'll comply with this insane behavior. So please back off, I'm having a bad enough day without having to deal with an untold number of harridans on my talk page. ] (]) 11:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 16:56, 18 October 2023
This is the user talk page of an editor who has died. His family has requested that the page be preserved, which it is through the edit history. Editors wishing to leave memorial comments should do so here.
There will be little rubs and disappointments everywhere, and we are all apt to expect too much; but then, if one scheme of happiness fails, human nature turns to another; if the first calculation is wrong, we make a second better: we find comfort somewhere. Jane Austen, Mansfield Park
Message from Jeff's mom
I know that this page is protected, but I'd like to draw everyones attention to a message from Jeff's mom that I've just posted on her behalf. You can view it here. Regards, Ryan Postlethwaite 23:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)