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==A revert I'm unhappy with== | |||
== Collapsing paraphilias and fetishes == | |||
I added the following at the outset: Recently-coined names for paraphilias (abasiophilia, algolagnia, etc.) typically have a ] origin. | |||
*'''No Merge'''. Paraphilia may be innate. Fetishes may be situational. ] 14:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Can you back that up? According to the DSM, fetishes ''are'' paraphilias.<br/> | |||
—] (]) 15:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::There may be some common ground, but my own idea is that the use of a different term somewhat fulfils my argument. A DSM defined paraphilia could be noted as such - even in the context of it generally being seen as a fetish, but should be kept apart from attraction to stuffed toys et cetera. Probable or demonstrable nature or nurture categories are probably better than medical classifications, at least for an encyclopedia. ] 17:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
This was reverted by EvergreenFir because it was not documented. | |||
== Pseudo Paraphilias == | |||
This list should be broken up into established (medical or wide usage) and neo/pseudo paraphilias. ] 14:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
Documentation is not required for items easily verifiable. Anyone who goes to a dictionary can see these terms are coined from Greek. Is a source saying so really required? | |||
== Dadophilia? Vladanophilia? == | |||
<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
*] (vladanophilia): sexual attraction to only a single person, named after a boy from Serbia (similar to stalking). | |||
== Fictophilia is not considered a paraphilia, according to the source cited. == | |||
I like to think I'm pretty well read on this topic, and I've never seen those words before. Nor does anything come up in a google search or my medical dictionary. Do you have a reference for it?<br/> | |||
—] (]) 19:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Considering the IP's edit record (e.g. I think it's safe to assume the edit is vandalism.] (]) 15:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
The source does not specify that fictoromanticism or fictophilia is considered a psychological paraphilia. In fact, it states that it is currently not listed as one of these, and that not enough is known to consider it one. This entry should be removed from the list of paraphilias. | |||
Source text: | |||
Quite possible. I just thought it would be appropriate to assume good faith and to invite the editor to justify the edit rather than merely to delete it without comment.<br/> | |||
"Second, the present intention is not to propose fictophilia as a problem or a disorder. At the time of writing, fictophilia is not recognized or proposed as a specific diagnostic condition by the World Health Organization (ICD-11) or the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-5) (but see ‘paraphilia’ in both manuals). Our findings do not indicate a need to change the current state of affairs. ] (]) 20:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
While I have your attention, is there a vehicle for inviting folks to start inserting good sources for these terms? I've added ones I have easy access to, but many are rather obscure.<br/> | |||
—] (]) 15:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
:There are a number of ] that you can add to the article. Doing that puts a link to the article on a category page like this one: ] where it can be esily found.] (]) 08:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Transvestophilia == | |||
== Include ''pedohebephilia'' and ''gynandromorphophilia''? == | |||
The description for it shouldn't be "A cross-dressing partner", considering it redirects to "Attraction to transgender people". Cross-dressing doesnt make you trans. I think that either this should have the description changed, or make a new section thing for it ] (]) 01:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
Mukadderat and I are debating whether to include the terms ''pedohebephilia'' and ''gynandromorphophilia.'' Both appear in peer-reviewed journals, as noted below. I feel they should be included, as they meet WP criteria for mention (WP:V to an RS). Mukadderat feels that they are neologisms that do not merit mention. Anyone else have any input to provide? | |||
== Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2024 == | |||
*]: sexual attaction to children, both pubescent and prepubescent. From Freund, K., Seeley, H. R., Marshall, W. E., & Glinfort, E. K. (1972). Sexual offenders needing special assessment and/or therapy. ''Canadian Journal of Criminology and Corrections, 14,'' 3–23.<br/> | |||
*]: sexual attraction to women with penises, men cross-dressed as women, or male-to-female transsexuals. From Blanchard, R., & Collins, P. I. (1993). Men with sexual interest in transvestites, transsexuals, and she males. ''Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 181,'' 570–575.<br/> | |||
—] (]) 00:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
{{Edit semi-protected|List of paraphilias|answered=yes}} | |||
:I don't have any input on the specific terms, but only a general observation. It's easy to create new words in English; words that are "real" in that the meaning can be easily understood even though they are neologisms. It's especially true for the endings -philia and -phobia where you can create new "tags" for a concept just by combining words. Some of these new words will be used in one paper and then never again, some will be reused an eventually find their way into common usage. So, in my opinion, it isn't enough that a term is mentioned in ''one'' paper. It should, still in my opinion, be used in several places, and if you can find a term in a university-level textbook it's almost certainly relevant. ] (]) 14:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
According to the alphabetical style of this list, underneath the existing entry for "sophophilia" and above the entry for "sthenolagnia" I request the addition of "splanchnophilia." The definition of this word is "a sexual arousal in response to viscera and internal organs." While this paraphilia is very uncommon, it does exist, and was used by forensic psychiatrist "Dr. Park Dietz" in reference to Jeffrey Dahmer. ] (]) 19:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 20:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
::https://journals.charlotte.edu/urj/article/view/1096/1155 | |||
:: ] (]) 01:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Spectrophilia == | |||
Why isn't ] in the list? ] (]) 23:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC) |
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A revert I'm unhappy with
I added the following at the outset: Recently-coined names for paraphilias (abasiophilia, algolagnia, etc.) typically have a Greek origin.
This was reverted by EvergreenFir because it was not documented.
Documentation is not required for items easily verifiable. Anyone who goes to a dictionary can see these terms are coined from Greek. Is a source saying so really required?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe (talk • contribs)
Fictophilia is not considered a paraphilia, according to the source cited.
The source does not specify that fictoromanticism or fictophilia is considered a psychological paraphilia. In fact, it states that it is currently not listed as one of these, and that not enough is known to consider it one. This entry should be removed from the list of paraphilias.
Source text: "Second, the present intention is not to propose fictophilia as a problem or a disorder. At the time of writing, fictophilia is not recognized or proposed as a specific diagnostic condition by the World Health Organization (ICD-11) or the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-5) (but see ‘paraphilia’ in both manuals). Our findings do not indicate a need to change the current state of affairs. GrilledSoup (talk) 20:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Transvestophilia
The description for it shouldn't be "A cross-dressing partner", considering it redirects to "Attraction to transgender people". Cross-dressing doesnt make you trans. I think that either this should have the description changed, or make a new section thing for it Smirkjuice (talk) 01:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2024
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According to the alphabetical style of this list, underneath the existing entry for "sophophilia" and above the entry for "sthenolagnia" I request the addition of "splanchnophilia." The definition of this word is "a sexual arousal in response to viscera and internal organs." While this paraphilia is very uncommon, it does exist, and was used by forensic psychiatrist "Dr. Park Dietz" in reference to Jeffrey Dahmer. Kibblecat (talk) 19:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Spectrophilia
Why isn't spectrophilia in the list? 2601:282:1C02:5700:0:0:0:D488 (talk) 23:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
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