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| Theathenae,<br>I am writing to you now not out of ill will but to plead for your cooperation. Regarding the page ] (]), I believe that it is abundantly clear that Arvanitic is (at ''least'' for linguistic purposes) an ] ]. Otherwise UNESCO, Ethnologue and Encarta wouldn't say so. So, I am asking you to reconsider accepting the phrase ''Arvanitic is a ] of Tosk'', not ], ]. I believe that this phrasing is better than dialect (we could use dialect though) because it acknowledges the possibility of Arvanitic being a language in its own right. Your phrasing has the obvious defect that it implies that Arvanitic ''is'' a language in its own right. Something that ], Ethnologue and Encarta directly contradict. I know that many Arvanites dislike being called ], but that does not change the fact that at least ] Arvanitic is an Albanian dialect. So naturally, we will have to make it clear that many Arvanites dislike being labelled that way. You do realise that UNESCO, Encarta and Ethnologue probably represent the ]. Let’s use that NPOV. OK? If you continue not adhering to Misplaced Pages policy by continuing to edit the article you may have committed vandalism (removing accurate data is vandalism) and that would have to be dealt with under WP’s disciplinary procedures. I sincerely hope that things work out between us. ] 10:13, 6 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Distixos xasame stin psifoforia kai tis dio fores oriaka! Kai etsi diagraftikan ta arthra! Pantos thanks, gia to endiaferon sou, eilikrina! --] 20:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't think they can, I'm afraid.--] 10:19, 6 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
| And why is that? Do you enjoy ignoring Misplaced Pages policy. That is the system. That is how thing work here. You are not cooperating. There is no scholarly evidence to support you arguments. ] 10:21, 6 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::See ].--] 10:23, 6 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == ] or ] == | |||
| I have seen it. It has me providing unquestionable scholarly evidence to support my arguments and you have provided no evidence. According to ] my views (and UNESCO's) are NPOV while yours are POV. ] 10:29, 6 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
| After extensive edit warring, article protection, and the statement of the ] regarding both the name of the article, and the intro paragraph, a ] has been placed. The | |||
| If you persist in removig these facts without justification, I shall report you to the Arbitration Committee. ] 10:33, 6 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ] is to keep the name of the article AND the intro paragraph free of the ] name (]). Keep in mind that you can select more than one of the options (8! to the moment) that may suit you. Please participate in the vote and ask other editors you know to do so too. Increased participation can make the outcome of the vote as ''']''' as possible. ] <sup><span style="font-size:x-small;">] ] ]</span></sup> 16:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Σχετικά με το παραπάνω, πρέπει να δεις το σχόλιο και να πράξεις αναλόγως. Άμεσα. ] <sup><span style="font-size:x-small;">] ] ]</span></sup> 16:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :There is no such thing as unquestionable scholarly evidence. All scholarship is open to interpretation. Furthermore, I am not saying anything that contradicts your sources, I am simply saying it in a way that takes the Arvanites' sensitivities into consideration. And I will not allow them to be ignored.--] 10:35, 6 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Arvanitic == | |||
| Hi, regarding . How can you know something like that. There is no source confirming it, and it is highly unlikely. How many Arvanite villagers do you know who know what an '']'' is? Also, Arvanitic is a language on the Albanian branch on the Indo European language family. Either way, ''ausbauspache'' or not, it is still a form of Albanian, unless you are claiming that Arvanites view it as a ]. Please consider reverting yourself or rewording it so as to make clear that what the Arvanites resent is being associated with the Albanians, and that this means that they dislike their language being called Albanian, not that there are any linguistic implications, because this is absurd and impossible to prove. Thanks. --] 17:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :You said it yourself, Rexhep. The Arvanite villagers couldn't care less about their language's genetic classification. Their rejection of the term "Albanian" is purely a question of identity and implies nothing about Arvanitic's relationship to Albanian, which is undoubtedly close.--] 17:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Rexhep? Yes, be that as it may, there is no source saying that Arvanitic is not Albanian. Why not use the wording of the 1995 report: ''although the community loathes its use.'' I've made a few edits, tell me what you think. --] 17:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::BTW do you have any idea if the term "Macedonia" was ever used officially in Ottoman times. There's a big gap on that at the article ]. --] 17:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Μην ξανακάνεις επαναφορά στο ], υποθέτω ξέρεις γιατί. Αυτός ο Greier δεν σταματάει ποτέ. Έχουν υπάρξει προβλήματα με αυτόν στο ], στο ] και στο ]. --] 18:27, 17 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, for an update of how the Arvanites discussion has developed since last time you were here, please see and surrounding discussion on ]. ] <small><sup>]|]</sup></small> 09:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Καλωσόρισες πίσω φίλε. Στην ιστορία των Αρβανιτών έχω σε σχόλια ένα κείμενο απ'την ελληνική ΒΠ, αν μπορείς σε παρακαλώ μετέφρασέ το στα αγγλικά. <small>]</small> ] 07:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Please visit and weigh in! ] <sup><span style="font-size:x-small;">] ] ]</span></sup> 23:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Please weigh in at ]!] <sup><span style="font-size:x-small;">] ] ]</span></sup> 18:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Distixos xasame stin psifoforia kai tis dio fores oriaka! Kai etsi diagraftikan ta arthra! Pantos thanks, gia to endiaferon sou, eilikrina! --Kamikazi2 20:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
FYROM or Republic of Macedonia
After extensive edit warring, article protection, and the statement of the extended version supporting side regarding both the name of the article, and the intro paragraph, a poll has been placed. The brief version supporting side is to keep the name of the article AND the intro paragraph free of the UN name (FYROM). Keep in mind that you can select more than one of the options (8! to the moment) that may suit you. Please participate in the vote and ask other editors you know to do so too. Increased participation can make the outcome of the vote as NPOV as possible. NikoSilver 16:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Σχετικά με το παραπάνω, πρέπει να δεις αυτό το σχόλιο και να πράξεις αναλόγως. Άμεσα. NikoSilver 16:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Arvanitic
Hi, regarding this edit. How can you know something like that. There is no source confirming it, and it is highly unlikely. How many Arvanite villagers do you know who know what an ausbausprache is? Also, Arvanitic is a language on the Albanian branch on the Indo European language family. Either way, ausbauspache or not, it is still a form of Albanian, unless you are claiming that Arvanites view it as a language isolate. Please consider reverting yourself or rewording it so as to make clear that what the Arvanites resent is being associated with the Albanians, and that this means that they dislike their language being called Albanian, not that there are any linguistic implications, because this is absurd and impossible to prove. Thanks. --Telex 17:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- You said it yourself, Rexhep. The Arvanite villagers couldn't care less about their language's genetic classification. Their rejection of the term "Albanian" is purely a question of identity and implies nothing about Arvanitic's relationship to Albanian, which is undoubtedly close.--Theathenae 17:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Rexhep? Yes, be that as it may, there is no source saying that Arvanitic is not Albanian. Why not use the wording of the 1995 report: although the community loathes its use. I've made a few edits, tell me what you think. --Telex 17:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- BTW do you have any idea if the term "Macedonia" was ever used officially in Ottoman times. There's a big gap on that at the article Macedonia (terminology). --Telex 17:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Μην ξανακάνεις επαναφορά στο Aromanians, υποθέτω ξέρεις γιατί. Αυτός ο Greier δεν σταματάει ποτέ. Έχουν υπάρξει προβλήματα με αυτόν στο Vlachs of Serbia, στο John Hunyadi και στο Fustanella. --Telex 18:27, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- BTW do you have any idea if the term "Macedonia" was ever used officially in Ottoman times. There's a big gap on that at the article Macedonia (terminology). --Telex 17:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Rexhep? Yes, be that as it may, there is no source saying that Arvanitic is not Albanian. Why not use the wording of the 1995 report: although the community loathes its use. I've made a few edits, tell me what you think. --Telex 17:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, for an update of how the Arvanites discussion has developed since last time you were here, please see and surrounding discussion on Talk:Arvanites/Archive 3. Lukas 09:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Καλωσόρισες πίσω φίλε. Στην ιστορία των Αρβανιτών έχω σε σχόλια ένα κείμενο απ'την ελληνική ΒΠ, αν μπορείς σε παρακαλώ μετέφρασέ το στα αγγλικά. talk to +MATIA 07:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Category Deletion
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