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	You wrote: "I don't have any problems with therapy--it's just that, in my situation, having a therapy is impossible." I don't blame you for rejecting therapy. It's something I need, too, but haven't managed to seek, and probably won't. The word that struck me there, and that I want to comment on, is not "therapy", but "impossible". You are an intelligent person, so I know that, intellectually, you can agree with me when I say: you are not qualified to state, on this question, that something is truly impossible. Emotionally, it ''seems'' impossible, and since our emotions are terribly important (in most cases controlling us utterly) it can be very hard to see past them. But it's all too easy -- I'm speaking sympathetically here -- to get yourself painted into an emotional corner where it seems like there's no way ont, because all the possible ways out require things we no longer have or care about. I don't claim to know what your corner looks like, because I'm not there, but I know what mine looks like, and it seems pretty inescapable, too. But I know what anyone would tell me, so I'm going to tell you the same thing: though it may look inescapable to you who's sitting there, those of us on the outside, with a different perspective, can see ''lots'' of ways out. We may be wrong on some of those ways, but probably not all of them. So please don't do anything drastic and irreversible.

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	I'll go out on a different limb here and speculate that you might be feeling unloved and uncared for. (That's how I feel a lot of the time, too, and boy, does it make it hard to face the day, let alone the trials of a not-so-good day.) However, trivial and remote though it may seem, I simply have to point out that the replies you've received here and on the reference desk prove that you're not alone. We may not know you well enough to love you, but please know that we do care. --] (]) 05:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

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	You wrote: "If I reveal my age, will everybody treat me differently?" Maybe. If you're 70 years and in failing health, my answer might be different. I'm 44, and I don't know much about what it feels like to be 70. But if you're younger than me, no, I'm not going to treat you any differently, my first answer above stands. --] (]) 05:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

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	::Venus says : it is not your time now, maybe, you have to suffer a little : be bold. Stay with yourself. --] 22:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

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	Therapy is possible my friend. I strongly suggest you try emailing . It's free, anonymous and they're easy to talk too about these types of things. They're the best thing out there for people like yourself, who are a bit down, and anyone who's used their service can be a judge to that. We're also all here for you if you to talk too as well. Good luck. ''' ''Agent'' '''] 13:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
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	:Sorry, I didn't see your post (when Misplaced Pages told me I had new messages, I thought it was for the other user who also posted); I wasn't trying to ignore you. Free free to talk about my question about suicide. I don't mind at all. --] 23:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
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	Hmm, hi. I respect your wish to kill yourself, if you are indeed not pulling people's legs :) No method of suicide is entirely painless I'm afraid, it's something you'll have to deal with. Whatever method , it'll literally be the most painful thing you do in your life. Fortunately the pain will be brief, and that's why people do it.
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	Before you leave though, do please consider a test for yourself: Try and figure out how many people will come visit and cry over your grave.

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	My personal challenge is to try and get as many folks as possible to cry over mine, when my time comes :-)

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	Hmm, if you think a lot of people will come, you might want to consider maybe if it's a good idea to hurt them like that.
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	On the other side, well, since you're going to kill yourself anyway, you have all the time in the world. Try and make it so at least one person you respect will come and cry over your grave. :-)
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	When I die, three people maximum are going to cry over my grave. More likely, though, it's 1 or 2. I can imagine huge arguments taking place among my relatives. I don't want to join irc.freenode.net#wikipedia, because real time conversations make me nervous. --] 23:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
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	:Ive added a new comment to the reference desk. I like the edits youve done. Keep it up, if youre not too busy. We all have to deal with the real world --its ok to give that priority over other things --like this. ]\|] 17:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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	:You're welcome! --] 04:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

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	Don't get me wrong, I'm an atheist too, but... how can you say God is responsible for Hiroshima but humans are responsible for sunscreen? Why don't you use something that wasn't designed and built by humans, like... Hurricane Katrina? —] 00:25, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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	:That was supposed to be a joke (not a very funny one though). I thought it would be funny to "thank" God for everything, and then suddenly break the pattern by thanking the humans. Oh well, I'll change it anyways. --] 03:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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	::I choose to blame chance for most of those things, but I'll never forgive God for only choosing the ''other'' tribes, and all at the same time, totally confusing everyone. ]] 10:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
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	From WP:RD/S...you asked that since there is friction, shouldn't the engine have to overcome that and as such there should be a total (or net) force (whee...look at that bad grammar--hope you can understand it). But, in physics terms, net force --> net acceleration through Newton's second law, F=m*a. If the car is moving at constant velocity, there is no acceleration. If there is no acceleration, there is no ''total'' (or ''net'') force. Hope this clears things up! --]<font color="green">]</font>] <sup>(] \| ] \| ])</sup> 04:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
	:Oops; looks like you already figured it out. Ha; my mistake. ;) --]<font color="green">]</font>] <sup>(] \| ] \| ])</sup> 04:26, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

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	==Post==
	Hi,
	Concerning your reply to my post, (“Which atheist would be ignorant enough to say that? There are religions that don't respect women's rights, but they can be changed.”) on the ]. . . I do not disputed that there are many religions that treat men a women equally. My comment “I guess I’d better stop drooling then!” was only meant to point out that most atheists are would not be “drooling over the opportunity to misinform you. . .etc.” My intent was only to point this out in as lighthearted a way as possible. Sorry about any confusion I caused. ] 02:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
	:I love your "Coca-cola" alternative to amen by the way :-) ] 19:33, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
	::Thanks! --] 01:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
	==Prayer==
	If I'm not mistaken, in the story of Moses thou benevolent God tortured millions in Egypt by starvation, dehydration, and mass infanticide. Just because of that if I ever saw God I'd give him the finger. ''']<i></i>]''' <small>(]\|])</small> 20:52, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

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	:Really? Where can I read about it? --] 01:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
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	== Bismuth reference desk question ==

	Hi Bowlhover. May I ask why you in detail, right after ? Did you disagree with that assesment? -- ] 01:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

	:My fault; I didn't see the post saying that it's a homework question. But I answered the question because it didn't obviously look like homework. (Teachers will likely not give an isotope that doesn't exist as part of homework) --] 01:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

	::Ok, no problem. I guess except for the non-existent isotopes, it looks like a homework question, but it's no big deal anyway. -- ] 02:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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	Dude, you just ran right over two recent votes for move request (see ]). What you did was not only unilateral, but undemocratic. This move 1) already failed a move request twice and 2) has moved the city to a page with a non-standardized name (should be "Cork, County Cork" where there's already a redir). Please review your changes and fix accordingly - ]<sup><font color="DarkRed">]</font></sup> 00:16, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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	::It might not have been your intention;, as I don't know if you were involved in that recent debate, but as you can see, you've stepped into an issue that's very difficult and has caused emotional strain. Before making page moves in the future, you'll want to read the talk page histories to make sure that they aren't controversial. Also, if there's a chance they might be controversial, you might want to try going through ] instead. -]<sup>]]</sup> 00:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

	:::I didn't read the talk page before moving, because I never suspected that my move would be controversial. Today is the first time I've heard of Cork (city), while I'll be surprised if any English speaker doesn't know what a cork (material) is.
	:::Thanks Patstuart. I'll take a look at the talk page before moving any more articles. --] 01:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

	:::: As Pat says, it's prolly best to go via ] first, or maybe check the talk pages of the to and from articles first as chances are, the issue will have already come up. Page moves are a bit of a biggie. Not to worry - there's an admin arbitrating now so it'll be fixed up one way or another soon - ]<sup><font color="DarkRed">]</font></sup> 01:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
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	:: Heh - and there's ] :) - ]<sup><font color="DarkRed">]</font></sup> 01:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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	Thanks for your good wishes; that's very kind. You can always look forward to ], if you're from the United States at least. -- ] 04:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
	:Don't tell me you don't have a heavily-commercialized ] either...? -- ] 05:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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	Thanks for wishing me a Happy New Year, I wish the same to you too! As for the Holiday problem, we'll just enjoy them more when they do come. :-) \| ] <sup><font color="Tan">]</font> \| <font color="Tan">]</font></sup> 12:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
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	Yes! I am still, and will be for more months. Sometimes I stop by for a few visits :) Happy Day after New Year's! ''']<i></i>]''' <small>(]\|])</small> 03:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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	Hi there. You do realise that when you post things, eg , that your name and timestamp are still accessible, even if you haven't signed? ]<sup>]</sup>]</sub> 04:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

	==Response==
	Hi. The link you posted on my talk page is a defunct link , so I can't check the reference. I'm not disputing it, however, this is an encyclopedia entry, you can't use margin of error. If the article did not directly stating it, you shouldn't write it (if it is 1988 and you cross it to 1989's Tiananmen protest). I'm thinking in 1988 there were Tibetan protests, so it would be referring those protests.--] (]) 01:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
	:I think the BBC quote you insisted on puting is ambiguous and vague. Its descriptived words are "it is said to be" NOT "it is"; and said by whom? It did not mention. It is not talking about the largest protest because according ''The Economist'' and ''Time'', the protest is definitely not on the scale of the Tiananmen Square protest, and that was 19 years ago, not 20. I think we need to either find a newer quote that is more direct, or fixed the wording on it.--] (]) 19:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
	::What I'm trying to point out is that the quote is inaccurate in terms of citing date (20 years ago, when Tiananmen is 19), and thus it is probably an expression of opinion and not fact. Infactual quote should not be presented at all. I think adding "one of" would be more appropriate, since there were larger protest within 20 years.--] (]) 20:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

	== Soviet Census ==

	Hi, Bowlhover. I've just returned from vacation and am busy catching up with Humanities questions I missed over the past week. I note you got no response to your Soviet Census question, which is now on the verge of archiving. If you are still interested we could discuss it on my talk page, or, if you prefer, you could post your question afresh to allow the general community to peak in! Regards, ] (]) 03:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

	== Still reading ==

	Just in case you didn't notice, I answered your question on my talk page. ] (]) 06:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

	==Raccoon==
	Hi. I copied your ] to Commons so that other language wikipedia can use it to illustrate articles about ]; would you like to finish the transfer job (add detail to the Commons page and delete the image here)? Thanks. --] (]) 16:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

	== RD question ==

	I was just wondering why it is 0.1N not 1N for 100g I thought that 1n was abut 102g. Thanks. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>)</span> 09:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
	:Aha that makes sense now, I was in a bit of a rush when I wrote that ^^ which is why it didn't really make much sense. Thanks ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>)</span> 08:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

	== Refdesk - brightest question ==

	Bowlhover, with respect, you do a serious disservice to the refdesk when you bring up quibbles on the statements I made at ].

	As far as looking directly at the sun, unless you are sitting in possession of the exact articles referenced by Misplaced Pages, you have absolutely no right to state that looking at the sun is safe. And "rarely causes" is pretty thin grounds to argue against an explicit safety statement. And in the context of the thread, which is a poster asking how to educate his daughter, you perhaps missed the little bit in your referenced section where it says "conditions are worsened by young eyes"?

	Burning magnesium - I knew I was risking things by including that, nice refutation, and way to stomp all over the point of protecting your eyes. Ever had flashburn?

	My post was undented to provide a general safety caution ''for the casual reader'', specifically undented so the thread could continue above. You've now refuted my safety warning and blurred it successfully - now people will also think it's OK to stare at a welding arc - try that; or stare at a laser - try that; or stare at the sun - try that; or even stare at a MG-O flare - try that for longer than your trained chem teacher set up the experiment. Better yet, find those guys in the video and ask them how long they went to bed for after their cool taping - I bet they were dizzy within a half hour and down within two.

	So anyway, discuss away about concepts, but please don't step all over a safety message. I made I strong statement - for the casual reader - to protect your eyes. I wasn't expecting you to jump all over it and say "nah, it's all fine". Regards. ] (]) 07:52, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
	:(copied response from my talk page) (responding here)
	:I simply offered referenced quantitative data on brightness and safety. Your strong comments on safety are unnecessary; the discussion was about the extreme brightness of objects such as lasers, not about people intentionally looking at them and miraculously avoiding eye damage. Everyone knows not to stare at the Sun, a laser, or a welding arc for an extremely long period of time, especially considering the context, but not everyone is aware of the data I provided.

	:Note that I was ''not'' rebutting your advice, hence the weak "rarely causes". If you want to offer safety advice, do so with accurate and sourced information. The science reference desk is about, well, science, and misleading information should not be posted there.

	:If you would like to respond to the post you're challenging on the reference desk, feel free to do so. --] (]) 08:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
	::Maybe this is a philosophical difference - I believe in responding to the original poster, then responding to the other ideas thrown up in the thread, preferably by means of indenting, but always with respect to the original intent of the thread.
	::You are incorrect that the discussion was about ''the extreme brightness of objects such as lasers'' - it was a question from a father hoping to educate his young daughter about ''Is there any light she could experience that is brighter than the sun on a clear day?''. There is a technicality you have to infer from father-daughter - he really truly doesn't want her to be blinded by the experience.
	::You further did not reference reliable data on safety - correct me if I'm wrong, but you referenced Misplaced Pages, which references off-line sources whose existence you aren't in a position to verify, and you your own self made the statement "looking at the Sun without optical aid rarely causes permanent eye damage". You have made a synthesis and presented it on a public forum - the liability is yours alone. Given the mentions in the article you reference to "young eyes" and "children", and considering the original question in the thread, you may wish to retract or strike your statements.
	::As regards your comment "''Your strong comments on safety are unnecessary''", perhaps you have not yet encountered the concept of safety. Strong comments are ''always'' necessary - safety begins with strong comments. Until you make the strong comments, most people are not aware of the necessary starting points.
	::And to your particular assumption: ''Everyone knows not to stare at the Sun, a laser, or a welding arc for an extremely long period of time'' - for a refdesker, that is a shocking statement. What would possibly lead you to think that? If everyone knows, why do they come to ask? Our aim is to educate, not to assume. To say that ''everyone'' knows not to look at a laser or a welding arc is just laughable - do you want the names? (Sarcastic comments suppressed)
	::First, we try to answer the questions. Second, we have our discussions. Double-first we do no harm. Read ] - don't say that it's just fine to stare at the sun.
	::I'm getting passionate about safety, sorry, the particular topic wasn't theoretical ('cuz I still say ]s :), it was Dad and daughter, to me, every safety rule in the world applies. Sorry to bug you. ] (]) 10:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
	:::Personally, I don't appreciate any exaggeration of the truth, even if safety is concerned. I admit that my comments regarding the Sun were misleading, though, and two users have noted the exceptions to the general rule that the Sun or burning magnesium don't damage the eyes. I don't think it's necessary to continue discussing this issue. --] (]) 18:39, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

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