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==Lots of unsupported slamming going on== |
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Clearly no "supporter" would ever say anything like that. Simply doing some basic research shows that J.D. Power has always been an independent company that's managed to piss off lots of the big car companies (along with other industries) by giving a venue for customer experiences, both good and bad. Companies would nearly always rather keep that kind of information under wraps -- too bad for them that the 'net and places like this make that impossible to do, particularly when the research of proven independent firms like J.D. Power can be accessed by anyone. |
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This article is unbelieveably biased. It should be deleted and redone. |
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==Huh?== |
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{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis|archiveprefix=Talk:J.D. Power/Archives/|format=Y|age=26297|index=yes|archivebox=yes|box-advert=yes}} |
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"JD Power supporters however point out that their surveys are influential and therefore it doesn't matter if they are reliable." |
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-that "supporters" viewpoint doesn't sound very supportive, if I knew what supporters actually thought I'd change it, but I didn't even know there was a debate ] 03:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC) |
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==Merger== |
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There is another article for "]". Shouldn't the two be combined, and one deleted? |
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: yea i just found it. they should be merged. ] 17:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:: They are 2 separate things. This is the company, ] is the man. --] 06:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== Odd... == |
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I always figured they were owned by a certain crappy US car company. |
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I guess direct ownership would be too obvious. They probably get paid under the table. |
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] 21:14, 12 March 2006 (UTC) |
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== Consumer Reports == |
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HAHA. What eveidence is there that they are "not for profit"? Utter nonsense. ] 23:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:The publisher of Consumer Reports ("Consumers Union of United States") is a nonprofit corporation. It is registered as such with the Internal Revenue Service of the US Government. ] 02:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== References? == |
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No cited references except for the company's website, and no cited source for the "Criticism" section. I don't dispute or support anything in the article, but it would be improved by some external information on the subject. |
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-- ] 06:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Unreferenced criticism == |
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I removed the Criticism section because the claims could be considered libel if false, and they are unreferenced. There were also counterclaims randomly inserted in the text, which made it a real mess. -- ] 23:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC) |
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I removed the section again--] (]) 02:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== Potential conflicts of Interest == |
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What do we think about linking in a discussion on conflicts of interest? J.D. Power faces a silimar conflict of interest that appears in other industries as well. For example, accounting firms are paid by the very firms they objectively audit - potential conflict. Also, there are ratings firms (Moody's, Fitch, S&P) that rate the debt of companies and get paid by the companies that issue the debt - potential conflict. I think this is the broader issue that should be linked in. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 19:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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== Tag == |
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Due to all the issues with sources pov, conflict of intrest, ect., I have tagged the article with {{Tl|Noncompliant}} for cleanup.]<sup><font color="green">]</font> (])</sup> 05:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC) |
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== Criticism == |
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The criticism section is very poorly written. It's obiously some kind of edit war with two biased opinions. I have tagged it with {{tl|OR-sect}} and {{tl|POV-section}} due to this.]<sup><font color="green">]</font> (])</sup> 03:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC) |
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Do you expect me to believe that JD powers is unbiased. You are kidding right? I am physician and you would think that when it came to people's lives that would be the only place where corruption would not exist but i assure you that the FDA and pharmaceutical industry as well as in basic and clinical research. corruption is rampid. Question everything !!! <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) {{{Time|16:45:29, August 19, 2007 (UTC)}}}</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Questions of "independent and unbiased" == |
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It seems to me that the opening statement that the company conducts "independent & unbiased" surveys is causing a lot of the friction. Why not just state that the company conducts surveys and leave it at that? ] (]) 22:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC) |
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== Blogs as Citations? == |
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I remove the power for pay critisim because it used a blog as it citation, really, I think that if you are going to write something like that you have to actually have a source that is relying on facts and not just what the source has heard |
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== Consumer Reports == |
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I removed the reference to Consumer reports since it's not really relevant to this company. I also cleaned up some of the wording in a few other sections.--] (]) 05:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== The language of customer satisfaction? == |
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Last paragraph "bringing the language of customer satisfaction to consumers and businesses"...What kind of marketing speak is this? Like there were no customer satisfaction surveys before JDP brought them? Nonsense, needs to go. ] (]) 03:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== Criticism section...comes and goes... == |
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I don't understand why Consumer Reports keeps getting brought up in this article. 1, they are not the same company. 2, they have different types of data gathering. The main data gathering method J.D. Power and Associates uses is surveys sent out to vehicle owners(assuming the point of contention is the automotive surveys). They compile this data to generate the scores then provides all of that data to all of the manufacturers that purchase the study information. How can they possibly be biased in the scoring if each number is scrutinized by every manufacturer. As far as Consumer Reports go, don't they buy several cars in each class? JDP has tens of thousands of people responding to the surveys. I'm not being argumentative, but how many people test vehicles at Consumer reports? 1? 2? 5? 20? Maybe I don't understand how Consumer Reports does their quality checks but how statistically accurate can they be if they only buy a car or two of each make in each class. Statistically speaking they could get a shining star or a lemon. If there is a criticism section in this article, Consumer Reports should have one as well --] (]) 06:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC) |
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