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{{Short description|Page for discussing mergers and deletions of templates}}
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==Listings==
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On this page, the deletion or merging of ''']''' and ''']''', except as noted ], is discussed.
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==How to use this page==
'''Adding a listing'''
===<span id="NOT"></span> What ''not'' to propose for discussion here===
*Please put new listings under ] at the '''''top of the section'''''.
{{shortcut|WP:TFD#NOT}}
*When listing a template here, don't forget to add '''<nowiki>{{tfd|TemplateName}}</nowiki>''' to the template or its talk page, and to '''give notice''' of its proposed deletion at relevant talk pages.
The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the ] and ] should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:


; Stub templates
===September 20===
: Stub templates and categories should be listed at ], as these templates are merely containers for their categories, ''unless'' the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
; Userboxes
: Userboxes should be listed at ], regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
; Speedy deletion candidates
: If the template clearly satisfies a ], tag it with a ]. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{t|Db-author}}. See also ].
; Policy or guideline templates
: Templates that are associated with particular ], such as the ], cannot be listed at TfD separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
; Template redirects
: List at ].
; Moving and renaming
: Use ].


===<span class="anchor" id="REASONS"></span> Reasons to delete a template===
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Blanked by creator, and subsequently edited to point to ]. Also an orphan now that unverified images are CSDs. '''Delete'''. ] // ] 02:08, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
# The template violates some part of the ], and can't be altered to be in compliance.
# The template is redundant to a better-designed template.
# The template is not used, either directly or by ] (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), {{Strong|and has no likelihood of {{em|being}} used}}.
# The template violates a policy such as ] or ] and it can't be fixed through normal editing.


Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, ] may be able to help.
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Very misleading; Associated Press photos are probably not good fair use candidates because we could be construed as competing with them. Not used too much either. '''Delete'''. ] // ] 02:08, 20 September 2005 (UTC)


Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by ] here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.
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Despite its name, it didn't say anything about fair use at all (until I added the bit at the end about how the image may or may not be usable in Misplaced Pages); rather, it appears to be a noncommercial-use-only tag, which is depreciated. Since there's only one use, let's '''delete''' it before it gets used any more. ] // ] 01:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)


===Listing a template===
{{shortcut|WP:TFDHOWTO|WP:TFDHOW}}
{{Strong|To list a template for deletion or merging, adhere to the following three-step process.}} Utilizing ] is strongly recommended as it automates and simplifies these steps. To use Twinkle, click TW ] in the toolbar (top right of the page), then select XFD. Do {{em|not}} include the "Template:" prefix in any of the steps, unless specifically instructed otherwise.
{| class="wikitable" style="clear: both;"
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! scope="col" | Step
! scope="col" | Instructions
|- id="Step I"
! scope="row" style="background-color: #ffff99;" | I: Tag the template.
| style="padding: 0.5em;" | Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:


* For deletion: {{Tlxs|Tfd}}
* For deletion of a sidebar or infobox template: {{Tlxs|Tfd|2=type=sidebar}}
* For deletion of an inline template: {{Tlxs|Tfd|2=type=inline}}
* For deletion of a ]: {{Tlxs|Tfd|2=type=module|3=page={{var|{{Gray|name of module}}}}}} at the top of the module's <code>/doc</code> subpage.
* For merging: {{Tlxs|Tfm|{{var|{{Gray|name of other template}}}}}}
* For merging an inline template: {{Tlxs|Tfm|2=type=inline|3={{var|{{Gray|name of other template to be merged}}}}}}
**Other values for {{para|type}} are available, see ]


'''Note:'''
===September 19===
* If it is an inline template, do not add a newline between the TfD notice and the code of the template.
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* If the template to be nominated for deletion is ], make a request for the TfD tag to be added, by posting on the template's talk page and using the {{Tlx|editprotected}} template to catch the attention of ] or ].
Doesn't mention anything about U.S. copyright laws, so it's not a valid image copyright tag. Furthermore, fair dealing in Canada only applies to research, private study, criticism, review, and news reporting and various noncommercial purposes, and it doesn't look like most of the images so tagged would apply. It might potentially be useful as an additive tag, but since it's not used that widely, contains a redlinked category and isn't documented anywhere I would say '''delete'''. ] // ] 22:26, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
* For templates designed to be ], add {{tag|noinclude}} around the TfD notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template.
* Do not mark the edit as minor.
* Use an edit summary like<br /><code>Nominated for deletion; see <nowiki>]</nowiki></code><br /> or <br /><code>Nominated for merging; see <nowiki>]</nowiki></code>.
* Before saving your edit, preview your edit to ensure the Tfd message is displayed properly.


'''Multiple templates:''' If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "]"). Tag every template with {{Tlxs|Tfd|2=heading={{var|{{Gray|discussion title}}}}}} or {{Tlxs|Tfm|{{var|{{Gray|name of other template}}}}|3=heading={{var|{{Gray|discussion title}}}}}} instead of the versions given above, replacing <code>{{var|discussion title}}</code> with the title you chose (but still not changing the <code>PAGENAME</code> code).
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'''Delete''': Overly precise, contains a badly-named and redlinked category, poor wording compared to ], just used in seven places before I changed them all to {{tl|tv-screenshot}}. ] // ] 21:27, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


'''Related categories:''' If including template-populated tracking categories in the TfD nomination, add {{Tlx|Catfd|{{var|{{Gray|template name}}}}}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the TfD, this time replacing <code>{{var|template name}}</code> with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Tlx|Catfd|2=header={{var|{{Gray|title of nomination}}}}}} instead.)
==== ]====
'''Delete''': Now orphaned template was exclusively used for the now deleted and replaced ]. The template now serves no purpose. I suggest deleting talk page as well. &mdash;] 19:15, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


'''TemplateStyles pages:''' The above templates will not work on ] pages. Instead, add a CSS comment to the top of the page:
===September 18===
:<code>/* This template is being discussed in accordance with Misplaced Pages's deletion policy. Help reach a consensus at its entry: <nowiki>https://</nowiki>en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/{{CURRENTYEAR}}_{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}_{{CURRENTDAY}}#Template:{{var|{{Gray|template_name}}}}.css */</code>
==== ]====
'''Delete''': Redundant with ]. The way it approaches the issue makes the tagged page look more like a web forum than an encyclopedia. -- ] ] 18:40, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
* And a red divbox doesn't help much at all. '''Delete'''. ]<font color="#008000">]</font> 19:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' Useful for marking contentious pages and just for kicks. <small>] <sup><font color="#6BA800">]</font> | <font color="#0033FF">]</font> | <font color="#FF0000">]</font></sup></small> 20:14, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. As Norvy notes, it is redundant with other disclaimers, such as ] and ]. Unlike these warnings, it provides no useful or relevant information to the average reader. While J. Hypothetical Reader should be warned if an article is biased or inaccurate, I do not think it is necessary to inform him of the existence of an edit war if that edit war has not affected the article's accuracy or neutrality. (I would say "confine to talk pages", but there'd be no point to that either: we already have ].) &#8212;]] 21:17, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. ]<font color=#2554C7> </font>] 21:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', for the reasons cited above. &mdash;] 21:57, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' for the reasons cited above. Scary and unhelpful. And the image covers the start of the text unless the page is very wide indeed. ] ] 22:21, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Redundant, uninformative, and possibly inflammatory depending on how it's applied. -] 22:42, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', redundant, polarising, and shouldn't be on an article page in the first place. If there's a content dispute, take it to the Talk page, and if it degenerates into an edit war, go ask an admin for help instead of slapping a template on it (in other words, resolve the war instead of declaring it). --] 22:52, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


|- id="Step II"
==== ] ====
! scope="row" style="background-color: #ffcc00;" | II: List the template at TfD.
Reportedly, this template is not useful. It's just a rather uninteresting list of Swedish cities, which might as well be replaced by a link to cities in Sweden and a listing of the relevant cities there. There's also the problem that stad and "city" are not equivalent terms, which is bound to confuse non-Swedes. ]-] 05:41, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
| style="padding: 0.5em;" | {{Clickable button|Edit today's TfD log|url={{fullurl:Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion/Log/{{CURRENTYEAR}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}|action=edit&section=1}}|class=mw-ui-progressive}} and paste this text '''to the top of the list''':


* For deletion: {{Tlxs|Tfd2|{{var|{{Gray|template name}}}}|text{{=}}{{var|{{Gray|Why you think the template should be deleted.}}}} <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}}
==== ]====
* For merging: {{Tlxs|Tfm2|{{var|{{Gray|template name}}}}|{{var|{{Gray|other template's name}}}}|text{{=}}{{var|{{Gray|Why you think the templates should be merged.}}}} <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}}
'''Delete''': I made this template (along with ]), but I've since created a new (and hopefully better) template, ]. --] 01:19, 18 September 2005 (UTC)


If the template has had previous TfDs, you can add {{tlx|Oldtfdlist|{{var|{{Gray|previous TfD without brackets}}}}|{{var|{{Gray|result of previous TfD}}}}}} directly after the {{para|text}} before the why (or alternatively, after the <code>}}</code> of the <code>Tfd2/Catfd2</code>).
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'''Delete''': I made this template (along with ]), but I've since created a new (and hopefully better) template, ]. --] 01:19, 18 September 2005 (UTC)


Use an edit summary such as <br /><code>Adding <nowiki>]</nowiki></code>.
===September 17===
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Similar to ] (recently deleted), this image copyright tag states that the image is copyrighted in Japan and elsewhere, and that its use qualifies as fair use in both Japan and the United States. However, since Misplaced Pages's servers are in the United States and not Japan, we're concerned about whether something is fair use in the United States and not Japan. Furthermore, ] doesn't have "fair use" provisions. It does have a number of exceptions, but those are so different from United States fair use law that it's hard to imagine that something could be "fair use" in both countries and still be usable on Misplaced Pages. So, this template is redundant with ]. It's also only used on two images. '''Delete'''. ] // ] 15:08, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


'''Multiple templates:''' If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:


{{block indent| {{Tlxs|Tfd2|{{var|{{Gray|template name 1}}}}|{{var|{{Gray|template name 2 ...}}}}|title{{=}}{{var|{{Gray|meaningful discussion title}}}}|text{{=}}{{var|{{Gray|Why you think the templates should be deleted.}}}} <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}}}}
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Unused, nonsensical. Alas, I couldn't find a CSD case to fit it. &mdash;] ] 06:36, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' linkspam. ]<font color="#008000">]</font> 19:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' ]&#8756;] 21:47, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
*Not nonsense or spam - it's used for links into ] (which runs as a proxy on localhost:8888). But as it's been decided not to have Freenet links, '''delete'''. ~~ ''']''' (]/]) 22:30, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters <code>|</code> ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.
===September 16===


If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following:
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Currently orphaned, redundant to all of the other city infobox templates, but looks like it was already "subst"ed onto ]. ] ] 14:33, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


{{block indent| {{Tlxs|Tfm2|{{var|{{Gray|template name 1}}}}|{{var|{{Gray|template name 2 ...}}}}|with{{=}}{{var|{{Gray|main template (optional)}}}}|title{{=}}{{var|{{Gray|meaningful discussion title}}}}|text{{=}}{{var|{{Gray|Why you think the templates should be merged.}}}} <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}}}}
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Context should be provided as prose within an article's lead section, not as a generic template tacked onto the top. Worse, in several articles on my watchlist, prose leads have been ''replaced'' by this. I'm afraid to look at the other articles where it now appears. &mdash;] ] 09:39, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
: Well, maybe should people agree on each others. :
<blockquote>This article is about ], a fictional continent, the primary setting of ]'''&lt;!-- I said not italics. That also meant not bold. I also said make a template --&gt;</blockquote>
: As for the “worse, prose leads have been replaced”, you may be interested into , too:
<blockquote>Removed redundant header</blockquote>
:I'm a bit fed up with all of these. Lot of critics, few additions. As we say in computing: “Where is your patch?” ] to ] 13:54, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters <code>|</code> ), plus one more in {{para|with}}. {{para|with}} does not need to be used, but should be the template that you want the other templates to be merged into. Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.
**I prefer the template. I prefered the original bolded statement, but there does not seem to be support for that. Because someone went through and awkwardly rewrote lead paragraphs, I tried a relatively generic statement on top: '''"X"''' is a "(city, village, castle, region, character, etc.)" in the ] setting of ]. When the new italicized template is added (and I'm not saying the phrasology can't use some work) I went back and removed the header that I added to the articles that I had written. My main reference was a number of Harry Potter articles that systematically state the fictional setting and type in a seperate sentence before the Content box. That is my preference. I wouldn't mind seeing the reference to Toril go, and add a reference to D&D in the opening sentence. --] 16:05, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
:: As I said on ], I'm OK for the Toril reference too, and everyone seems to agree on that. To change the content of the template is very easy: just go to ] and change the text.
:: On the other hand, '''I''' consider that ''repetitive information should be templated'', this is smaller, more elegant (yes, this is subjective) and, most importantly, add ''consistency'' to articles. The reason why they are scarcely used seems, IMHO, to be that people don't know how to create template — actually, it is "disarmingly" simple, I think that is the main reason. Templating is for power users, and power users - myself included - are not accustomed to such a trivial way to do it. ] to ] 16:45, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. As I have mentioned elsewhere, standard Misplaced Pages practice, and in my opinion the best method, is to clearly note a topic's fictional nature within the prose of the introduction. - ] 16:21, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
**But as we discussed, it's '''not''' standard practice. Compare, say, ] to ], ] with ], ] with ]. Granted, there's no template, but there's no standard either. Still, I don't believe there is a great need for a template, just consistency. --] 19:31, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
*I don't think we should be enforcing editorial content with templates; they're more brittle, harder to change, and can "flatten" the editorial feel of the article. Consistency is good, but there are always exceptions. The solution is aggressive editing, not templating. Therefore, my opinion is to '''delete'''. ] 15:47, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
:pardon me, but for me, aggressive editing is like polling in computing, a quick-and-dirty (and no so quick in the long run, especially with more than 140 articles) solution. ] to ]
*'''Delete'''. This information should be at the beginning of the article, and not in italics. -- Reinyday, 20:30, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as per ] and ]. The most commonly used form is to indicate the fictional context of a fictional place, character, or event in the prose of the lead paragraph. The exact foramt and wording of this varies. Some articvels may not follow this form, but that is not a good reason for encouraging others not to do so. see ] for more details. ] 20:52, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
**The above comment was mine, it seems I was loggged out without realizing it. ] ] 22:22, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' and reverse the many, many removals of clear, standardized information in the introductions of the articles. Quite apart from anything else, this template looks very ugly. I tried very hard to standardize these FR introductions as much as possible when creating them (see the gods articles), and so don't see any practical need to make them "neater". -] 23:03, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
:: The good thing about a template is that it is very easy to change it <nowiki><wikipedia></nowiki>If you don't like it, edit it.<nowiki></wikipedia></nowiki>. At least, it has the merit to exists.
*'''Delete'''. Articles about fictional subjects should make their fictional context clear as is appropriate to that particular topic, and the context shouldn't need to be bolded or italicized. Does ] open with a boldfaced statement reminding the reader that he's not a real person? -] 22:40, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
:: I've seen too much <nowiki>{{context}}</nowiki> flags. I stopped counting and I can assure you it is very frustrating to see people just context-ing all your work. Really. That's why I created the template, because of all these context-ing. Now, if people could stop context-ing, I would be very happy (and could focus on the much more useful ].


'''Related categories:''' If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code in the {{para|text}} field of the <code>Tfd2</code> template but before the text of your rationale:
===September 15===
{{block indent| {{Tlxs|Catfd2|{{var|{{Gray|category name}}}}}}}}
|- id="Step III"
! scope="row" style="background-color: orange" | III: Notify users.
| style="padding: 0.5em;" | Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the ] or ] of the template. Then, add one of the following:


* For deletion: {{Tlxs|Tfd notice|{{var|{{Gray|template name}}}}}} <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
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* For merging: {{Tlxs|Tfm notice|{{var|{{Gray|template name}}}}|{{var|{{Gray|other template's name}}}}}} <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
'''Delete''': I don't see the point in this, this template and it's partner &#123;{]}} perform the exact same job as &#123;{]}} does without the hassle of using two seperate templates to get the job done. These templates are also not mentioned anywhere in the instructions at ]. If you vote for this please also vote for Copivio2 below since deleting just one of them makes no sense. --] 16:48, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. These look like a relic of something and the more usual boilerplate does the job fine. Why have 3 templates doing the job when you could do it with one? -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 23:21, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' As previously mentioned, Copyvio performs the same function as Copyvio1 and Copyvio2 combined - ] 01:03, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
*These were used before it was possible to pass parameters to templates - they are now therefore obsolete. '''Delete'''. ] ] 14:46, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - I for one have never bothered to learn the new system and still use the old one. Since the results are the same I see no reason to force users to change. - ] 16:22, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
**(You could also say that since the results are the same I see no reason to have two different templates... ] ] 16:35, 16 September 2005 (UTC))
***As I mentioned there is a very good reason, that I have not bothered to learn the new method. There are at least a hundred maintenance templates that I use regularly. These templates are constantly in flux. Each probably changes only once every three or four months, but this amounts to an average of one template to relearn each and every day. I personally can't be bothered to do this, so when it makes no difference I simply continue to use the older method. - ] 17:00, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
****"Not being bothered" is not a very good reason at all. Having two templates that do the same thing, and that therefore may get out of sync, for no other reason than somebody stubbornly refuses to learn a ''very simple'' syntax change, is also a not very good thing. It ain't complicated, Simon, just ''bother''', please. ] ] 19:41, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', agree with SimonP. No reason why obsolescence should spur deletion. ] ] 18:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
**Obsolescence is a perfectly good reason to delete. This is because the name copyvio2 was needed by another template, but couldn't be had because the one below was in the way, and almost unused. It was desirable for that reason to remove it, and so copyvio1 would be broken without it. I wonder: you must see some benefit to the Wiki in retain obsoleted templates that are in the way of new templates. What benefit is that? -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 18:53, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
***If it was obsoleted in the sense that it was not in use, that would be one thing; this is "obsoleted" only in the sense that there is an alternative that many (though apparently not all) people prefer. This template is useful and constructive to the purpose of building an encyclopedia and in current use by editors at this moment; wanting to use the name for something else (and why this other template requires that name certainly hasn't been made clear here) is simply not a sufficient reason to delete. ] ] 00:06, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
****It is obsoleted in the sense that there are about 900 pages using <nowiki>{{</nowiki>copyvio}}, and about 30 using <nowiki>{{</nowiki>copyvio1}} and <nowiki>{{</nowiki>copyvio2}}. It is therefore clear that the ''vast majority'' of editors have managed to use the new template, and I would suggest that most of those that haven't simply haven't noticed it exists. '''It is harmful''' to have two different templates to do exactly the same thing, as the wording will not automatically be synchronised between the two, and if the process on ] changes, then the older templates, which are not referenced anywhere in the instructions, will likely be missed. I really feel like I'm labouring a point here, but I can't for the life of me understand why anybody is so attached to this template. What is it, an urge to rebel or something? (this is a sort of joke, I think) ] ] 22:37, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Misplaced Pages is inconsistent. I dislike the urge to regiment being displayed here; the wiki method is to keep both in use until consensus manifests itself by disuse of one set or the other. ] 03:16, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
**I really don't know what this means. ] ] 22:37, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
**In my experience the "wiki method" is to merge (and redirect) or delete duplicates pretty much on sight, and in this case there is nothing to merge, and redirecting won't work. Keeping all three only result in more work as we have to maintain three seperate templates for a job you only need one for. What is so hard about learning to type <nowiki>{{copyvio|url=}} instead of {{copyvio1}}{{copyvio2}}</nowiki>? --] 22:47, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the ''other template'' for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested ] aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use ]. ] are a possible way of doing that.
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'''Delete''': Same as Copyvio1 above. If you vote for this please also vote for Copyvio1 abowe since deleting just one of them makes no sense. --] 16:48, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. These look like a relic of something and the more usual boilerplate does the job fine. Why have 3 templates doing the job when you could do it with one? -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 23:21, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Same as Copyvio1 above - ] 01:07, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - I for one have never bothered to learn the new system, and still use the old one. Since the results are the same I see no reason to force users to change. - ] 16:23, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Obsolescence not in itself a reason to delete. ] ] 18:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as above. (I am puzzled why those arguing for deletion on the grounds of efficiency did not make this a single nomination; but it's too late to merge them now.) ] 03:18, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


'''Multiple templates:''' There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases.
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Never used by anyone but me, made obsolete by the AFD reform. - ] 15:15, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I am also wondering if anybody uses &#123;{]}}? ] ] 00:51, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
**I haven't seen it used recently, but it is still widely linked to in talk: pages, which would take an awful lot of subst:ing. Not impossible though. -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 00:58, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
** The only time I used {{tl|oldvfd}} was when I closed subpages of VfD that hadn't been renamed as AfD subpages. But since that isn't the case anymore, I think it should be safe to '''redirect''' it to {{tl|oldafd}}. ]<font color="#008000">]</font> 19:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
***I'm not sure if you're talking about redirecting &#123;{vfdclosed}} or &#123;{oldvfd}}, but if you mean the latter, please don't. The vast majority of pages at ] have not been moved to ], so the links wouldn't work anymore. &mdash;] ] 22:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
****Seconded. {{tl|oldvfd}} and {{tl|oldvfdfull}} ''must'' keep pointing to the old Votes for deletion subpages, unless someone goes and subst: both in ''all'' places they are used.
*'''subst: and delete''', since the nominator doesn't want it anymore. Be sure not to just delete it, or the pages it appears on will suddenly no longer have their vfd/afd link. -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 00:58, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
**Substed. - ] 01:14, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


Consider adding any templates you nominate for TfD to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the TfD tag is not removed.
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Wrong way to do disambigs. Presents redundant information on the article. ] &bull; ] 14:52, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. ] &bull; ] 14:52, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is for disambig ''headers'', where the phrasing is often useful as an immediate warning that the reader may want the dab page. Compare, but please do not change, the first line of ]. ] 03:29, 17 September 2005 (UTC)


=== After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors ===
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While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD ''(see above)'', nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with ].
'''Delete''': Created as a test template by an anon IP and contains no useful content. &mdash; ] (]) 01:57, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
*Speedied by me. --] 06:41, 15 September 2005 (UTC)


To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Misplaced Pages-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the TfD discussion page itself. If you are recommending that a template be speedily deleted, please give the ] that it meets.
==== ]====
'''Delete''': Is not even used in the ] article, and if you look at that article, the images are in a completely different order. Unnecessary template. --]


====Notifying related WikiProjects====
] are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD. You can use {{Tls|Tfd notice}} for this.


Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's '']'' automatically, if they ]. For instance, tagging a template with {{tl|WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in ].


====Notifying substantial contributors to the template====
==Holding cell==
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the ] creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the ] or ].
:Move templates to the appropriate subsection '''here''' to prepare to delete '''if''' process guidelines are met. Anything listed here or below should have its discussion moved to ].


At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone else will either close the discussion or, where needed, "]" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" ''may not'' be you, the nominator.)
===To orphan===
:''These templates need to be deleted, but may still be in use on some pages. Somebody (it doesn't need to be an admin, anyone can do it) should fix and/or remove significant usages from pages so that they can be deleted. Note that simple references to them from Talk: pages need not (and in fact should not) be removed.''


Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is successful it will be added to the ] until the change is implemented. There is no requirement for nominators to be part of the implementation process, but they are allowed to if they so wish.
(none at this time)


Also, consider adding any templates you nominate to your watchlist. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.
===To convert to category===
:''Templates for which the consensus is that they ought to be converted to categories get put here until the conversion is completed.''


===Twinkle===
*]. To be '''listified and categorified''', then orphaned and deleted. ]. -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 02:24, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
] is a convenient tool that can perform many of the posting and notification functions automatically, with fewer errors and missed steps than manual editing. To use Twinkle, click its dropdown menu in the toolbar in the top right of the page: TW ], and then click 'XFD'.


Note that Twinkle does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have ]. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.
===Ready to delete===
:''Templates for which consensus to delete has been reached, have been orphaned, and the discussion logged to ], can be listed here for an admin to delete.''
*]: I found this not deleted in the ] and found on the template's talk page that it had been accidentally deleted and subsequently restored. I'm putting this here so that the template won't be forgotten. ] 01:22, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
**It's protected against recreation which is probably why it appeared undeleted. -] 02:32, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
***''see TFD-talk page for some comments on this &mdash; ] 02:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)''
* {{tl|Block}} ''entry moved to ] despite a couple of keep comments as the consensus appears to be for deletion; <s>appears on user talk pages</s>, which is the target article-space for the template, ]''
**Am going to leave this one as it currently appears to be linked to an Arbitration case. -] 02:32, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
***''see TFD-talk page for some comments on this &mdash; ] 02:43, 11 September 2005 (UTC)''
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==Discussion==
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People will sometimes also recommend ''']''' or '''subst and delete''' and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.
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==Closing discussion==
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Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.

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To list a template for deletion or merging, adhere to the following three-step process. Utilizing Twinkle is strongly recommended as it automates and simplifies these steps. To use Twinkle, click TW in the toolbar (top right of the page), then select XFD. Do not include the "Template:" prefix in any of the steps, unless specifically instructed otherwise.

Step Instructions
I: Tag the template. Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:

Note:

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Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with {{subst:Tfd|heading=discussion title}} or {{subst:Tfm|name of other template|heading=discussion title}} instead of the versions given above, replacing discussion title with the title you chose (but still not changing the PAGENAME code).

Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the TfD nomination, add {{Catfd|template name}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the TfD, this time replacing template name with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Catfd|header=title of nomination}} instead.)

TemplateStyles pages: The above templates will not work on TemplateStyles pages. Instead, add a CSS comment to the top of the page:

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II: List the template at TfD. Edit today's TfD log and paste this text to the top of the list:
  • For deletion: {{subst:Tfd2|template name|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}}
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If the template has had previous TfDs, you can add {{Oldtfdlist|previous TfD without brackets|result of previous TfD}} directly after the |text= before the why (or alternatively, after the }} of the Tfd2/Catfd2).

Use an edit summary such as
Adding ].

Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:

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You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

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to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts. Deletion sorting lists are a possible way of doing that.

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Consider adding any templates you nominate for TfD to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the TfD tag is not removed.

After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors

While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD (see above), nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Misplaced Pages's guideline against biased canvassing.

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Notifying related WikiProjects

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Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically, if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the template

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the page history or talk page.

At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone else will either close the discussion or, where needed, "relist" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" may not be you, the nominator.)

Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is successful it will be added to the Holding Cell until the change is implemented. There is no requirement for nominators to be part of the implementation process, but they are allowed to if they so wish.

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Twinkle

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Note that Twinkle does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.

Discussion

Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.

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Closing discussion

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Current discussions

December 24

Template:Summerslam 2024 (fan made)

Unused table. Not used at SummerSlam (2024) which uses completely different data. Gonnym (talk) 12:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kotlin version history table

Unused. No similar table at Kotlin (programming language), so if wanted there, subst this table there and delete template. If not wanted, just delete. Gonnym (talk) 12:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:CBSB yearly record subtotal

Unused college baseball table template. Gonnym (talk) 11:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:CFB DII Yearly Record End/footnotes

Unused college football table template. Gonnym (talk) 11:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:CFB Yearly Record Entry/Division II

Unused college football table template. Gonnym (talk) 11:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:CBB schedule entry/sandbox3

Old and unused non-main sandbox. Gonnym (talk) 11:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:2025 EAFF E-1 Football Championship Preliminary Competition Table A

Unused as 2025 EAFF E-1 Football Championship uses different tables. Gonnym (talk) 10:57, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:2025 EAFF E-1 Football Championship (women) table A

Unused as 2025 EAFF E-1 Football Championship (women) uses different tables. Gonnym (talk) 10:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:European premiere

Unused image icon. Should also not really be used as it's too small to be of any help. Gonnym (talk) 10:49, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Vaiņode Municipality

Unused. Seems to have been replaced with Template:South Kurzeme Municipality. Gonnym (talk) 10:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Pāvilosta Municipality

Unused. Seems to have been replaced with Template:South Kurzeme Municipality. Gonnym (talk) 10:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Priekule Municipality

Unused. Seems to have been replaced with Template:South Kurzeme Municipality. Gonnym (talk) 10:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Pp-arb

I can't find a discussion which lead to this newly created protection template. I'd like to see any evidence this is actually needed. Gonnym (talk) 10:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Grobiņa Municipality

Unused. Seems to have been replaced with Template:South Kurzeme Municipality. Gonnym (talk) 10:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Ethiopia Monument header

Unused Ethiopian monument table related templates. Gonnym (talk) 10:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Dundaga Municipality

Unused. Seems to have been replaced with Template:Talsi Municipality. Gonnym (talk) 10:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Durbe Municipality

Unused. Seems to have been replaced with Template:South Kurzeme Municipality. Gonnym (talk) 10:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Chembox 3DMet/format

Unused sub-template (the usage count shown on the /doc is unrelated as it is a shared documentation page). Gonnym (talk) 10:28, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


December 23

Template:Tipperary Minor Hurling Team 1935

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 15:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Tipperary Minor Hurling Team 1960

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 15:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Waterford Minor Hurling Team 1929

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 15:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Waterford Junior Hurling Team 1931

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 15:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Montenegro in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest

Navbox which, beside the parent article, has no relevant articles to provide navigation to which are not redirects, e.g. Montenegro in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2014. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 14:36, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. No articles to navigate between. Grk1011 (talk) 03:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Galway Intermediate Hurling Team 2005

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 13:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kilnadeema-Leitrim Hurling Team 2014

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 13:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Nsb next flytog

Unused. Stations were converted to use Module:Adjacent stations/Flytoget. Gonnym (talk) 12:02, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in Indonesia

Foreseeable that the scope of this template will become too broad (see Russia and France), and thus has been partitioned in three. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 11:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Overseas Ryukyuan

Before any of my recent edits to the articles listed in this navbox, only four of the nine Wikilinks (excluding the "Related" section, which are not the main targets) linked to an article, while the rest linked to category pages. Two of the four articles contained only material copied from older revisions of Ryukyuan diaspora or unsourced / unreliably-sourced material (e.g. "Samurai Wiki"). I thus merged those two articles (Ryukyuan Americans and Ryukyuans in Brazil) to Ryukyuan diaspora, as all three articles were stubs and mirrors of each other. In its current state, the navbox really only has three proper articles: Ryukyuan diaspora, Okinawans in Hawaii, and Japanese Bolivians, which only partially discusses Ryukyuans (Okinawans). It seems rather unnecessary to keep this navbox as it would only list two articles if all the categories, redirects, and "related" articles were removed. The remaining three articles could link to each other in their respective body paragraphs or in "See also" sections. Yue🌙 10:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

那好吧！也許可以比照在Template:British diaspora的Cornish diaspora相關條目，把Ryukyuan diaspora、Ainu diaspora的相關條目合併到Template:Japanese diaspora.Nkywvuong (talk) 11:59, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kerry Junior Football Team 2014

Single use template The Banner talk 05:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Beaufort Football Team 2019

Single use template The Banner talk 05:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kerry Junior Football Team 2019

Single use template The Banner talk 05:52, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:All-Ireland Colleges Interprovincial Hurling Championship

Single use tmplate The Banner talk 05:52, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Waterford Premier Intermediate Hurling Championship

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Offaly Under-21 Football Team 1988

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Wicklow Senior Hurling Championship

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Carbery Junior A Football Championship

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Carbery Junior A Hurling Championship

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:North Cork Junior A Hurling Championship

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:East Cork Junior A Hurling Championship

Single use template The Banner talk 05:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Mid Cork Junior A Hurling Championship

Single use template The Banner talk 05:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:St Catherine's Hurling Team 2024

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Tullogher-Rosbercon Hurling Team 2024

Single us template The Banner talk 05:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Castlelyons Hurling Team 2024

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Thomastown Hurling Team 2024

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kerry Junior Hurling Team 1968

Single use template The Banner talk 05:26, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kerry Junior Hurling Team 1969

Single use template The Banner talk 05:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Cill na Martra Football Team 2024

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Carbery Rangers Football Team 2004

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:2022 GAA Minor Star Awards Hurling Team of the Year

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 05:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


December 22

Template:Louth Hurling Team 2005

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 20:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Down Hurling Team 2020

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 20:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Trondheim tramway next

Unused rail succession template, now migrated to {{adjacent stations}}. Taavi (talk!) 16:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Good job. Gonnym (talk) 11:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Down Hurling Team 2019

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 16:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:All-Ireland Under-20 B Football Championship

Single use template The Banner talk 16:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:All-Ireland Minor Football Championship Tier 2

Single use template The Banner talk 16:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:All-Ireland Minor Football Championship Tier 3

Single use template The Banner talk 16:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Death with dignity

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in October 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Difficult case You can only hope that this template stays unused. The Banner talk 16:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Delete, even if it were used. We already have one linked above, and I won't be surprised if we have more variants. Gonnym (talk) 17:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kildare Hurling Team 2024

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kerry Minor Hurling Team 2015

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kerry Under-21 Hurling Team 2017

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Tipperary Minor Hurling Team 2024

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kilkenny Minor Hurling Team 2024

Single use template The Banner talk 14:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Tyrone Junior Football Team 1968

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Donegal Senior Hurling Championship

Single use template The Banner talk 14:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Waterford minor hurling team managers

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Waterford Premier Intermediate Football Championship

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Waterford Junior Football Team 1999

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Armagh Minor Football Team 1951

Single use template The Banner talk 14:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Garrymore Football Team 1982

Single use template The Banner talk 14:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Meath Senior Hurling Championship

Single use template The Banner talk 14:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Donegal Hurling Team 2024

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Naas hurling Team 2022

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Meath Senior B Hurling Championship

Single use template The Banner talk 14:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Limerick Premier Junior A Hurling Championship

Single use template. WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kilkenny Junior A Hurling Championship

Single use template but no active links at all. The Banner talk 14:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Kilcormac–Killoughey Hurling Team 2013

WP:NENAN, this is in fact a team-template for a lost final. The Banner talk 14:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Tooreen Hurling Team 2023

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Tynagh-Abbey/Duniry Hurling Team 2025

WP:NENAN The Banner talk 14:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Current iPadOS 17/short

Unused. The parent template now has a switch after this edit. Gonnym (talk) 12:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete. I am the person who converted to the new functionally and deleting this subsidiary was part of the plan; now that the main’s new function is up and running there is no need for the short version. — HTGS (talk) 18:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Current iPadOS/date

Unused. The parent template now has a switch after this edit. Gonnym (talk) 12:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete. I am the creator; this was an alternate functionality explored before settling on the parent template’s current design. — HTGS (talk) 18:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Canadian U-17 Players of the Year

Unused navboxes which were replaced with Template:Canada Soccer Young Players of the Year. Gonnym (talk) 11:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Latest preview software release/Babylon.js

Unused software release version templates. Gonnym (talk) 11:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:YYYY in one of the Thirteen Colonies/inner core

Unused sub templates of Template:YYYY in one of the Thirteen Colonies. Gonnym (talk) 11:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Java mobile

Unused. Template:Java (software platform) should be the one used on any related article. Gonnym (talk) 11:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Category importance/column

Unused sub templates now that the parent template was converted to use Lua here Gonnym (talk) 11:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Category class/column

Unused sub templates now that the parent template was converted to use Lua here. Gonnym (talk) 11:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:1900–01 Copa Macaya table

Recently created and unused as 1900–01 Copa Macaya, 1901–02 Copa Macaya, 1902–03 Catalan Football Championship, and 1928–29 Campionat de Catalunya use a different table, but should also not be used as the current setup is the stadnard one. Gonnym (talk) 11:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Navbox musical artist/color

Deprecated and replaced by templatestyles. Dabao qian (talk) 07:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 09:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Turkish Figure Skating Championships

Two links = pointless template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Only 2010 has an article. Articles should be created before navboxes. Gonnym (talk) 09:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Serbian Figure Skating Championships

Nothing but redlinks. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Articles should be created before navboxes. Gonnym (talk) 09:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


December 21

Template:Warning archive notice

This template is pejorative and it encourages archiving IP addresses which is no longer done. For archived IP talk pages that do exist, this template can either be replaced with {{archives|banner=yes}}, or the template itself can be redirected to {{archives}} without any loss in functionality. Rjj (talk) 17:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Carter G. Woodson Book Award winners

Spot the blue link in an ocean of black... I cannot see how this much unlinked text can provide any meaningful or useful navigational function. There isn't even a list article on the subject. --woodensuperman 13:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep. The more recent entries tend to have links for their authors if not titles, and the template is divided into sections so the oldest ones need not be displayed. The template could be updated to further divide by decade, to reduce the number of displayed entries. Why is existence of a matching list article considered a factor in whether a nav box should exist? A guideline notes their complementary nature, and the irrelevance of deleting one based on presence of another. I don't believe absence should be a factor in deletion either. —ADavidB 16:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Please see WP:EXISTING, WP:WTAF and all the points of WP:NAVBOX, specifically point #4. There should definitely be an article before we even consider a navbox, not least for WP:VERIFIABILITY reasons, and considering how little linked text there is, we should leave it there, because this is useless for navigation. It would be far more useful as a list with context. --woodensuperman 16:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
A Carter G. Woodson Book Award article now exists. —ADavidB 03:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete now that Carter G. Woodson Book Award has been created?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ 15:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Still delete. It performs minimal navigation, and now we have the article, anyone really interested can navigate that way. --woodensuperman 15:14, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Ethnic groups in Taiwan

Botch job of merging multiple navboxes. This is not how we use navboxes. --woodensuperman 15:23, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Can you show me the manual how to use navboxes? Can you show me the section of the manual telling that this is not how navboxes should be used? Do you expect people to maintain multiple navboxs with huge conceptual overlaps? Leoshuo (talk) 15:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions. Nevertheless, after thoroughly reading WP:BIDIRECTIONAL, I understand that it is entirely your personal preference that relevant navboxes cannot be incorporated into other navboxes. After reading WP:SMALLTEXT, I understand that I did not make any mistake against it. Misplaced Pages:NOTHERE is a strong allegation. Please try to carefully use those allegations. I have agreed that the template for White English-speaking people should be deleted. That was a navbox I made in an earlier stage, but I am satisfied that all other navboxes I created are necessary and consistent with their main articles. I would like to talk with the Administrators for those issues. I appreciate that you have plenty of time and energy, and I would love to see you making more good-quality articles Leoshuo (talk) 19:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Note. Above editor who created the navbox has been blocked. --woodensuperman 08:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Honestly think the navbox looks fine from a grouping perspective, ignoring that it's failing to use the correct navbox facilities here (which do exist). I tend toward a keep. Izno (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
    It's not really the way to go about things though, if it is appropriate a full merge should be considered rather than this messy nesting which does not consider full WP:BIDIRECTIONALity. Also note that the creator of this template has been blocked for making exactly these kind of edits. --woodensuperman 08:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ 15:10, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I have overhauled the template. Keep, pending review. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 14:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:C.F. União squad

This club was expelled from its league, closed down and liquidated in court three years ago . This squad template is not only outdated but obsolete as an extinct entity cannot have a "current squad" ever again. Unknown Temptation (talk) 12:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in France

Foreseeable that the scope of this template will become too broad (see Russia), and thus has been partitioned in three. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 10:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Last Kings Records

Last Kings Records is non-notable and now a redirect to Tyga. Last kings entertainment was already a redirect to Last Kings Records. "Hollywood Niggaz" is a redirect to The Gold Album: 18th Dynasty. The only links here that aren't redirects are Tyga and Fan of a Fan: The Album, both of which are already included in Template:Tyga, leaving this redundant and with too few links to justify its inclusion. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Rainbow Six Siege series

Unnecessary sidebar with links to only three standalone articles, one of which is the game itself. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


December 20

Template:EIN

This template does not seem to give any useful information; the /doc itself says that the search only works in certain circumstances, and I checked about half o the extant uses and none of them give a result. Unless it can be fixed I figure this template should probably be deleted. Primefac (talk) 15:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 21:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Just noting that I've thought about it and would be okay with it being a typing aid template. Primefac (talk) 21:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
I've written a user script to make clicking on EINs on Misplaced Pages display all the resolvers on Wikidata. The script is at User:Daask/MultiResolver. Daask (talk) 02:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Articles by Quality

Propose merging Template:Articles by Quality with Template:Category class.
These two templates seem to do similar job, with slightly different styling. I suggest we merge them. I slightly prefer the styling of {{Articles by Quality}} but that might be my bias because I wrote that template in 2008. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in Russia

Foreseeable that template as it is will become too broad in scope and has been split in four preemptively. (see: Soviet Union, United Kingdom, United States) DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 16:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:GBvosi

This template generated map links to the old-maps.co.uk website, which permanently closed some time ago. Mauls (talk) 16:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Behind Crimson Eyes

Two albums. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 13:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Nazxul

Only two albums and links to former members. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 13:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in the Soviet Union

Template as it is has too broad a scope and has since been split into five. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 09:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in the United Kingdom

Template as it is has too broad a scope and has since been split into ten. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 07:28, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Greater Manchester bus route 103

All these route templates have not been used since October due to this Afd. If the creator wants to keep them as they work on creating the respective articles for these to be used to meet notability standards, then it can be userfied until ready for mainspace use. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Articles should first be written, in part to establish notability and a place to use these, before these are created. Gonnym (talk) 10:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Delete I have seen most of these templates before due to poor editing. Now the route articles are gone, there is no reason to keep them. The Banner talk 20:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:SGB Premiership history

Unused and graphs have not displayed for a while. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

This is part of the Phabricator issue, and as the creator of this template, it honestly wasn't particularly useful and was a pain to update even when it worked. I have no objection to deleting it at all. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 16:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Delete per author's comment. Gonnym (talk) 10:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:KirstenboschMap

Unused map. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Graph:BTS Skytrain ridership

No longer used and graphs are not displayed for almost a year if I'm not mistaken. If wanted to be kept, can be userfied or a subpage of some kind. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

should wait until the new chart extension is deployed to enwiki. Then the data can be migrated. https://www.mediawiki.org/Extension:Chart/Project Matthewmayer (talk) 16:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Chief ministers of United Provinces

Only two links. Not needed as both links can be found from one another's article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Influencers

Scope is far too broad and ill-defined for a navbox (per WP:NAVBOX: small, well-defined group of articles; The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent). This could easily grow to encompass anyone famous on social media (thousands of people?) and I foresee a lot of arguments about inclusion. — The Earwig (talk) 00:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete: I was literally writing up a nomination and refreshed the template and saw this. I'd argue it's not a helpful or useful template and, if you look at Category:Social media influencers, it's very unclear what should and shouldn't be included. If we included everyone for which that term is applicable to it would be far beyond the size of anything that would be reasonable. There's thousands of people who refer to themselves as such and the selected entries don't seem to follow any particular logic except possibly WP:ILIKEIT. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per nominator & josh - influencer, the title link, actually defines the term as someone "who is considered influential"; in theory, that definition could refer to literally anyone. The template would be too large and lose its present usefulness, if any. Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment, I created the template prior to discovering the social media influencers category, and almost certainly wouldn't had I had noticed how broad that category is. I will however point out that the list is based predominantly on Rolling Stone / The Times lists of top influencers/content creators, and otherwise most of these weren't referenced in their BLP as being an influencer, so were not included for that very reason. The point being that I'd estimate 80-90% of those included in the social media influencers category are not described as influencers in their BLPs. It's merely a "catch all" category for notable social media users at this point. As a reference point after the Influencer article split off from Internet celebrity, I disambiguated a lot of links (ie ] etc and noticed how the majority (maybe 60/40) were internet celebrities, rather than influencers, but had nonetheless been categorised as such, with internet celebrities category having very few inclusions by comparison. So this might be a cats issue rather than template to be honest. I otherwise gave up searching for more inclusions after I was scrapping the bottom of the barrol reliable sources wise, so I don't think there are many left at this point. So given the context, I think this template may well be useful, and there doesn't appear to be any conflict over who should be included or not (at least not yet), or size issues based on the inclusion being seemingly very broad, so possibly WP:WAIT applies here to see if there are any actual issues first. CNC (talk) 18:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete because there's no evident cutoff. Ideally, this template would link to every blue-linked influencer article on Misplaced Pages, and that's unwieldy. Not to mention different influencers have different content, so a food influencer's article would have this template in it, linking to video-game influencers. Categories and lists are better for organizing influencer articles, and navigation templates grouping influencers should be avoided. Erik (talk | contrib) 18:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


December 19

Template:CITWF

No longer needed as both templates listed have been deleted. Disambiguation serves no purpose anymore. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete. There is nothing here as both templates have been deleted. Gonnym (talk) 09:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Speedy delete per WP:G14. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Heavy Moss

Only one album and two notable singles to their name. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 10:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose still serves as a hub for all links for the band. Scuba 14:03, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
The article Heavy Moss does that job quite well already! And the articles are well linked, you can link to the band, the album and each of the singles from each and every article. This simply isn't needed. --woodensuperman 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 19:03, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Brad Pitt

Only three articles. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 13:08, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 19:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Film writer templates

This writer-specific navbox violates WP:FILMNAV, which says, "Filmographies (and similar) of individuals should also not be included in navboxes, unless the individual concerned could be considered a primary creator of the material in question. This avoids over-proliferation of individuals' navboxes on each production's article, and avoids putting undue weight on the contributions of certain individuals over others." This navbox is causing exactly the problem that WP:FILMNAV warns about. Erik (talk | contrib) 22:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose. I think that in the majority of these cases the writers concerned could be considered primary creators of the material in question. I don't think bundling these nominations together is helpful, as they should each be looked at on their own merit. I'd be more concerned with the producer navboxes, espectially these days when films seem to have about a dozen producers. I'm sure I've advocated for limiting this to director roles only in the dark and murky past, but I seem to recall that "primary creator" was the compromise. What is auteur theory anyway? ;) --woodensuperman 11:31, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
    I looked at all the examples, and there were none where they were always the primary creator. Are you suggesting limiting it to works where they are only the primary creator? I feel like if we don't pay attention, editors will mindlessly fill out (or restore) all credits, like the now-blocked MolAnneFinnBall567 did. It seems to be better to be all or nothing. It's not like there is zero access to writing credits; their names are always in the infobox and ideally the article body too. It's about whether or not we need yet another navbox at the very end of the article, and writers and producers are rarely the exclusive sole drivers of creativity across all their works. Erik (talk | contrib) 12:42, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
    I think these have been concerns for nearly a decade! See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers/Archive 11#RFC: Filmography navboxes. --woodensuperman 13:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete I think categories serve best than the navboxes. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:14, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep the Fusco navbox at the least, don't mind deleting the others. I've been following this discussion for a while, and considering the script is the second-most essential to a film (even more so than producers and actors), I feel a case can be made for keeping those who in almost all cases act solo, unlike guys like McKenna and Sommers (who would often be part of a team of six, thus cheapening their creative role too much to be primary). In Fusco's case, almost every work (save The Shack (2017 film), with two other writers) had him work solo - and there are 15 - so there is far less of an issue keeping him than the others. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
    Hi I’m finally back, now I just want to let everyone know that I created these templates because I wanted to add more variety with each Misplaced Pages navbox, so all I’m saying is just, please, don’t delete any of these. MolAnneFinnBall567 (talk) 23:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Look filmmaker is a very collaborative process, movies have a lot of different people working on them, so just crediting to directed works only is honestly just generic. I get that it violates WP:FILMNAV, but I didn’t know. MolAnneFinnBall567 (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
The problem is that if we have navboxes for every production role, then we end up with WP:NAVBOXCREEP. We need to draw a line. Hence WP:FILMNAV calls for only primary creator roles. Picking Monsters vs. Aliens as an example, this has five writers and two directors. If each had their own navbox, we could end up with six navboxes for writers and directors alone (not to mention the other three). And with this many writers, could any of them be really considered a primary creator? Also, as only two of the writers have navboxes, this could be considered WP:UNDUE for the others without navboxes. --woodensuperman 11:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Dice

Very little use (only 8 mainspace transclusions in it's 14+ years of existence), and not clear why a specific template to write ] (one possible variant for the singular of "dice") is helpful, or whether edits from unregistered users are a problem actively needing this very specific solution. Can safely be substituted and left to, well, die. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Subst and delete. This isn't something that should be in a template. Gonnym (talk) 10:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:International dollars/data/2005

Data templates that are unused and also not present in the code of Template:International dollars, so can't be used. Gonnym (talk) 14:15, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Peso

This navbox groups currencies that share the name "Peso", but have no other relation beyond that. The article Peso already has a list of those currencies. Cambalachero (talk) 13:23, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

There's a whole category of it. There are likewise categories for denominations. I just worked through a bunch of these because of WP:TEMPLATECAT but both the navboxes and the categories felt like they missed the point of those navigation tools. Izno (talk) 23:53, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Submit an edit request/core

Unused after parent template was converted to use a module here. Gonnym (talk) 12:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Module:Franchise total episodes

Unused TV module. Template:Franchise total episodes was merged last year. Gonnym (talk) 10:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Uw-isu

No transclusions or documentation. Inscrutable template name. Created in 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep The template name likely means "implies shared use", a good equivalent of {{uw-username-coi}} without the "COI" part. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:30, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Correct, that was the intention behind it. – Stuart98 ( Talk • Contribs) 20:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Uw-shouting

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. Created in March 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Election results-STV

No transclusions or documentation. Created in April 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:28, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep Was only recently finally fixed so it was usable and is now in use. Some discussion prior to a nomination would be appreciated – this is the second time it's been nominated in the last couple of months. Number 57 12:10, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete if not used in mainspace during this TfD. Templates will get repeatedly nominated if they aren't being actively used. That's just how it goes. There is never a justifiable reason to create a template in mainspace and not use it for 8 months. If a template is not ready for active transclusions, it can be created in the draft namespace or in a user namespace. Gonnym (talk) 12:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Is there a reason the format of the template can't be substituted on articles? --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes – it is the front end of a module. Number 57 16:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:International relations/Intro

No transclusions, documentation, incoming links, or categories. This subpage appears to be independent of its parent page, and appears to be article content related to International relations (the prose looks similar to the lead of that article from 2013). – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)


December 18

Template:Ukrainian Figure Skating Championships

All years are redirected to the parent article; no need for this table. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep all redirect are created by the filer who is clearly unhappy that his earlier nomination failed. I restored all articles secretly deleted by filer, except three redirects that I nominated for deletion because the subject is better off with a red link in this template. For the prior nomination by the same filer: Misplaced Pages:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_28#Template:Ukrainian_Figure_Skating_Championships. The Banner talk 04:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Withdraw this nomination for now. Additionally, I seem to be able to edit Misplaced Pages just fine without making personal attacks against other editors; perhaps you might try the same thing. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I exposed what you were doing. If you call that a personal attack, so be it. The Banner talk 13:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
keep, useful. Frietjes (talk) 00:05, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:PD-Coa-Mexico

No transclusions. This template does not appear to be usable on the English Misplaced Pages, since all files to which it applies, such as File:Flag of Mexico.svg, have been moved to Commons (or could be moved to Commons), where the template is used in over 1,900 pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I see that there was a 2017 TFD that was withdrawn for {{PD-Coa-Mexico}} and similar unused PD File templates, but the templates' documentation was not updated to match the justifications. If this template is kept, I recommend that this and similar templates be documented to explain why they are here and how they should (and should not) be used. I have provided example bare-bones documentation at {{PD-Coa-Finland}}, which was involved in the previous TFD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep {{PD-Slovenia}}. Slovenia has a shorter term for photographs, so it is possible for there to be an expired photograph of a still-copyrighted architectural work (which is usable on English Misplaced Pages as {{PD-USonly}}). This was in use briefly for an old photo of a Slovene chapel. It was eventually determined that the chapel was also architecturally acceptable for Commons, but I could foresee a similar case occurring again where an old photograph of a Slovene building could not be uploaded to Commons. It also has potential application for old free photos of non-free content (e.g., statues, murals) used under the NFCC. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:08, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 21:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Swedish Figure Skating Championships

All articles are redirected to the parent article; no further need for this table. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:55, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep All articles that the filer had redirected are now restored, so plenty (15) valid links. Filer seems to have a problem with figure skating. Secretly removing articles is not okay. The Banner talk 05:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
The articles that I attempted to redirect are now listed for deletion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/2001–02 Swedish Figure Skating Championships. Recommend withdrawing this template nomination pending outcome of that AFD. Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
keep, useful. Frietjes (talk) 00:05, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Legislationlistuk-OiCNI

No transclusions, categories, documentation, or incoming links. Created in October 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band tracks

No transclusions or documentation. Appears to have been replaced by the {{John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band}} navbox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:GARC-new-circle

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) GMH Melbourne (talk) 05:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

No transclusions or documentation. Created in June 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:40, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:Editnotices/Page/Neil Gorsuch

This editnotice has been blanked, which overrides the default BLP editnotice that should be displayed for living people. It should be deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/Neil Parish

This editnotice duplicates the automatic BLP editnotice that is displayed now. It should be deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/President of Singapore

The list of presidents to which this editnotice applies has been split from this article to List of presidents of Singapore, so this editnotice is no longer useful here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:02, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Move to "Template:Editnotices/Page/List of presidents of Singapore". — Sgconlaw (talk) 17:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/Revell

Editnotice blanked as "not needed" in 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:58, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

fine with me to delete, the original creation appears to be linked with this edit which removed this template. Frietjes (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/Sangh Parivar

This editnotice has had just one edit, and it contains only a protection template, which does not appear to make sense as an editnotice. I think it may have been created in error and should be deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Go ahead and delete it, or I will if you want. I'm not sure why I created it when I added ECP:. But in fact I did add an edit notice at the time. Doug Weller talk 17:09, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/Sucharit Bhakdi

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as uncontroversial maintenance. This was a discretionary sanctions editnotice; discretionary sanctions has been superseded by contentious topics but this topic is no longer designated contentious. The notice has been blank for four years. Ivanvector (/Edits) 14:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Editnotice blanked with edit summary "rmv invalid gs". This page appears to no longer be needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:Taxonomy/Caenophidia

This editnotice is no longer applicable and can be deleted. Xenophidia was redirected in 2016 and then again in 2019 to Caenophidia. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Editnotices/Page/Battle of Shivneri Fort

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. CSD G7. -- Tamzin (they|xe|🤷) 23:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Editnotice blanked as "expired". No longer needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Template:Only Murders in the Building

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ 15:04, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Redundant template: all links are available at the parent article Only Murders in the Building. Provides no further ease of navigation. -- Alex_21 TALK 23:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Leaning towards keep for this one. Meets the WP:NENAN threshold of five articles and enables navigation between, say, season 1 and season 4, which is not possible otherwise. --woodensuperman 09:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep: The template helps users to navigate throughout the various articles related to the series, and while not many articles exist as of yet, it is still useful to have.—Mjks28 (talk) 12:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
    What does this template provide in terms of further navigation that the parent article does not? -- Alex_21 TALK 20:24, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
    It's always quite likely that the parent article will include all the links in a navbox, so this is not a reason to delete. Take a navbox for a band as an example. The parent article will likely include all band members and a full discography, matching the links in the navbox. However, it's when we get to the other non-parent articles that a nabox becomes a handy navigational tool. As I mention above this navbox facilitates moving between non-consecutive seasons that would not be possible directly otherwise, or from any of the seasons to the accolades article. Admittedly as this only just meets the threshold of WP:NENAN the benefit is limited, but there are far less useful navboxes out there, and at least all the links are on topic. --woodensuperman 09:52, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
    So, long answer short, it doesn't actually provide anything further in terms of navigation, for four seasons and one awards article. -- Alex_21 TALK 10:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
    Yes it does, it means you can navigate between non-consecutive seasons, and from season articles to the accolades article. --woodensuperman 10:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
    All of which can be completed by the parent article. I asked what the template provides that the article does not. -- Alex_21 TALK 10:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
    That's not a pre-requisite for a navbox. Take any comparable parent article and navbox and you will most likely find the same links on each. What navigation does {{Vikings (2013 TV series)}} provide that Vikings (TV series) does not? What navigation does {{Robert Altman}} provide that Robert Altman does not? What navigation does {{Taylor Sheridan}} provide that Taylor Sheridan does not? What navigation does {{The CW programming}} provide that List of programs broadcast by The CW does not? The point isn't about navigating from the parent article, it's about navigating quickly between the other linked articles without needing to refer to the parent article. --woodensuperman 10:53, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
    The latter three are significant navigation templates. However, I absolutely agree with the Vikings template, it's as unnecessary as this one, I'll put that on my "to look into" list. (And before I get a NENAN to that suggestion - it's an essay, a good, but not set-in-stone rule, and remember: "not everything needs a navbox".) -- Alex_21 TALK 11:58, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
    Most navboxes which meet the WP:NENAN threshold usually get kept, sometimes navboxes with even fewer articles are kept. I've certainly nominated film director navboxes with only 3-4 entries in the past that have ended up being kept. I don't think there would be any traction trying to delete the Vikings one or any with more than 6-7 entries. --woodensuperman 12:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
    In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it is the larger navboxes that are more problematic. {{Vikings (2013 TV series)}} is a clear and concise navbox with succint and relevant links, meeting all of the points at WP:NAVBOX. {{The CW programming}} is too large to provide a useful navigational function, a lot of the links are not particularly relevant to each other, and we are far better served by the list for context and the category for a directory of the programming. --woodensuperman 11:00, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep. 5 links is enough for a valid navigation template. Gonnym (talk) 12:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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December 17

Template:Mississauga Steelheads

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:48, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

The team is now the Brampton Steelheads and no articles directly related to the now-former team including their championship win does not exist. Redudant and outdated navbox. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Since there are no unique links to the team, even if was still used, it should have been deleted. Gonnym (talk) 12:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Formula V8 3.5 teams

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:48, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Unused and is just a list of teams and drivers. This information is easily found on the main article. It's not like other sport competition templates that would list winners as in players of a team. Not sure what can be gained from this. Same could go for other racing team templates. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Almost 2 weeks since this nomination and it hasn't been used or commented on. Seems whatever usage this had is no longer wanted. Gonnym (talk) 12:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Template:List of Europe supercentarians

No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links. Created very recently, but this navbox has no main article and no blue links in the body, so I don't think there is much hope for it. It's just a wrapper for {{Europe topic}}, which is often used directly in articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:MAL

No links in this template disambiguation has any links related to the name of the template "MAL". Instead, its for countries that have the same three letters at the start of their name. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep as useful and helpful. This is what disambiguation pages are for. Someone logically types "MAL" as a country abbreviation for one of these countries, and they are directed to this disambiguation page, which helps them find the right template. Without it, they have to hunt around. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Template:WikiProject Lanka Premier League topicon

The project does not exist anymore. Gonnym (talk) 11:53, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Latest stable software release/FLTK

Unused software release version template. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Latest preview software release/Viber

Unused software release version template. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Latest preview software release/K-Meleon

Unused software release version template. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Latest preview software release/Adobe Premiere Pro

Unused software release version template. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:Private equity investors

Redundant to {{Private equity and venture capital}} --woodensuperman 09:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:QuoteAText

Propose merging Template:QuoteAText with Template:Blockquote.
Redundant template, only used on its author's userpage. We could userify it, or redirect it to {{Blockquote}}. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 04:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete, no userify, no redirect. There are enough ways to quote a piece of text (see Template:Quotation templates). Gonnym (talk) 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Template:IranNCSGN

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ 15:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

No point in external link template for a dead link. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

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Comment: If kept per Frietjes, then convert to a full citation template and not leave it in this mixed-state. Gonnym (talk) 12:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

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  • Keep, it's mainly used in reference footnotes and has now been converted to a standard citation template. This should probably be replaced with whatever current online database makes the most sense in the future. There are also older gazeteers available online that could be used if nothing better is available online like: Gazetteer of Iran (2nd ed.). Washington, DC: Defense Mapping Agency. November 1983. Deleting the template would amount to deleting several thousand citations. Rjj (talk) 15:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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Old discussions

December 15

Template:WikiProject Figure Skating/A-Class review/preload

No longer used as Template:WikiProject Figure Skating/A-Class review was redirected (should have been sent to TfD as that redirect wouldn't do what a user using it is expecting). Gonnym (talk) 13:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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