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I check in most evenings, and occasionally some days during the day. I am on UK time (I can see ] from my office). If you post a reply at 8pm EST and get no reply by 10pm, it's likely because I'm asleep. My wiki interests at the moment are limited. I still handle some ] tickets.

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Please do not try to provoke me to anger, it's not difficult to do, so it's not in the least bit clever, and experience indicates that some at least who deliberately make my life more miserable than it needs to be, have been banned and stayed that way. Make an effort to ] and let's see if we can't get along. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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:In addition to bone-deep burn scars on my left hand I now also have ], so my typing is particularly erratic right now. I have a spellcheck plugin but it can't handle larger text blocks. You're welcome to fix spelling errors without pinging me, but please don't change British to American spelling or indeed vice-versa.
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== ]! Are you still out there? ==
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Hi ]! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


:I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year ]] 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


::We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
:::October JzG sighting at ]. Does my heart good. --] (]) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
::::Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using ], and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
::::I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
::::I thought I'd drop in :-) ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! ] (]) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Glad you dropped by! ] (]) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. ]] 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::If Guy doesn't look at ] real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - ]the ] 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::Very happy see the little JzG! ] ] ] 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
:::::Hah! Good to see you're still around! ] 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. ''']] (])''' 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
:Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature ]. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, ]&nbsp;<sup><b>(])</b></sup> 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


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Argh - just realised you are a cycling fan anyway so removed this mini-rant ;-)

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Responded there. Thanks for your attention. &nbsp;'''&mdash;&nbsp;].]'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 14:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== A thought on Wiki vs Pedia ==

Hey Guy. Happy weekend to you. I just wanted to run something by you, as you and I have jousted a few times, and we both have a grudging respect for each other's beliefs and actions (plus, you're already aware of the various issues about Sarah Palin).

Where do we strike the balance on being a wiki, and being an encyclopedia? I'm sure there's no hard and fast rules that "This level of vandalism is ok, but this level of vandalism means the article needs to be full protected..." etcetera.

A couple folks I really respect seem to fall on the left side of that scale.. that the highest priority of Misplaced Pages is being the 💕 '''that anyone can edit'''. I fall on the other side of the scale, I guess you could say, being a '''💕'''.

Obviously, the way you view this scale affects how you read the policy. One of the unprotects of the main article states "This is a wiki". Meaning that despite the things going on at the time (which I would call large-scale edit-warring with a large amount of BLP Violations for good measure), the best benefit to Misplaced Pages is to have the access available for editing for the maximum time possible. I couldn't disagree more with it, that by keeping a page unlocked during such activity (on a large scale), it is NOT a positive for Misplaced Pages, and in-fact, can be a gross negative.

I'm honestly interested in reading your thoughts, if you're willing to share. ] (]) 10:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

: I think this is one of those times when we have to give priority to the "pedia" bit, but I don't see that as antithetical to the wiki concept either - it's just that at this level the concept of open editing does not scale, too many people are trying to edit at once. So we have to make it possible for people to edit by gathering their input, seeing what has broad agreement, and getting agreed content into the live encyclopaedia with reasonable dispatch. I don't think there is any significant dissent that "the free encyclopaedia that anyone can edit" is not to be interpreted too loosely; we already accept that this is "for some values of anyone", since we rightly block and ban those who cause trouble, and it's obvious that we also interpret it as "for some values of edit" since we have protection and semiprotection and we use them all the time. Unfortunately I think that some of the philosophical debate is coloured by personal opinion on the merits of the content. One reason I have kept away from the article itself is that I am a European small-l liberal and Palin's opinions on most things are anathema to me.
: I'd like to propose a temporary injunction in the arb case on this, but I can't phrase it right. I think no admin who has expressed an opinion over content should use tools on Palin-related articles, and no admin should perform more than a few editprotected requests in any 24-hour period on those articles. We need to get more admins involved, and help those who do come along to walk away and leave it again for a while, because the more you get into handling the requests the more likely you are to start having opinions on the content, and that looks really bad - the evil Anarcho-Communist-Syndicalist-Capitalist-Liberal-Conservative Cabal at work. We get wingnuts at both ends of the spectrum attacking us for being wingnuts of the opposite persuasion, and this is usually a good sign as it means that neither side has got its way. Anyway, I am off to play with my trains (http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/Railway/In_progress) so I will come back and give this more thought later. Oh, and not so grudging - I think you are a decent chap :-) <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 10:47, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

"Wiki vs Pedia". This phrase can also be applied to what I call "antimyspaceism", that is intolerance for things like userboxes, guestbooks, "overdone" user pages, and other non article fluff and the drama between those who want to get rid of most of that (Pedia) and those who use such things and/or find them of value in community building (Wiki). --] (]) 20:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

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Smelling pistakes
In addition to bone-deep burn scars on my left hand I now also have C7 radiculopathy, so my typing is particularly erratic right now. I have a spellcheck plugin but it can't handle larger text blocks. You're welcome to fix spelling errors without pinging me, but please don't change British to American spelling or indeed vice-versa.

JzG is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Misplaced Pages soon.

God Jul och Gott Nytt År!

Gråbergs Gråa Sång is wishing you the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas,
Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus,
or the Saturnalia,
this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.

JzG! Are you still out there?

Hi JzG! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year Girth Summit (blether) 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" Liz 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
October JzG sighting at WP:RSN. Does my heart good. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using Tenable, and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
I thought I'd drop in :-) Guy (help! - typo?) 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! Johnuniq (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Glad you dropped by! Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. Girth Summit (blether) 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
If Guy doesn't look at Talk:Alexander technique real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - Roxy the dog 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. Guy (help! - typo?) 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Very happy see the little JzG! bishzilla ROARR!! pocket 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
Hah! Good to see you're still around!  RasputinAXP  20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. starship.paint (exalt) 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature here. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, Arbitrarily0  11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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