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The result of the debate was '''delete'''. I'm not making a redirect but if folks want to do it that's fine. If someone would like to userfy this, contact me and I'm happy to undelete it for that purpose. {{#if:|{{#ifeq:{{{2}}}|y|] <small>]</small> 22:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)}}}} ] <small>]</small> 22:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Redundant to {{tl|coord}} (and to {{tl|coord missing}}). Recent discussion at ] decided by consensus that {{tl|coord}} is the preferred coordinates template. {{tl|coordinate}}'s documentation states "''Currently not implemented.''". ] (User:Pigsonthewing); ]; ] 19:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | Redundant to {{tl|coord}} (and to {{tl|coord missing}}). Recent discussion at ] decided by consensus that {{tl|coord}} is the preferred coordinates template. {{tl|coordinate}}'s documentation states "''Currently not implemented.''". ] (User:Pigsonthewing); ]; ] 19:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep''' it facilitates integration of content from Misplaced Pages's in other languages. Pages using the template can be converted periodically to the current standard template or |
*'''Keep''' it facilitates integration of content from Misplaced Pages's in other languages. Pages using the template can be converted periodically to the current standard template or wh*atever new templates are made up in the meantime (e.g. {{tl|coord missing}}). -- User:Docu | ||
*'''Delete''' (or perhaps redirect to {{tl|coord}}) as unused and redundant to other templates. ] (]) 19:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' (or perhaps redirect to {{tl|coord}}) as unused and redundant to other templates. ] (]) 19:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
*'''Delete''' Since it's currently deprecated, it's not going to get used, so it doesn't serve any purpose to keep it. {{tl|Coordinate}} is a step too far, too soon, before we've even cleaned up the existing mess of at least twelve different geocoordinate templates: as far as the en: Misplaced Pages is concerned, it's an example of ]. One day, in a year or two, we may want something like it, but it's more likely to be implemented by progressive evolution of {{tl|coord}}, without a need for a whole new syntax. {{tl|coord}} is a kludge; but at least it's a ''single and currently-used'' kludge that is moderately well implemented and understood by our data reusers (notably Google), which can be used as a bottleneck for resolving problems as we evolve the system, without having a ]. -- ] (]) 19:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | *'''Delete''' Since it's currently deprecated, it's not going to get used, so it doesn't serve any purpose to keep it. {{tl|Coordinate}} is a step too far, too soon, before we've even cleaned up the existing mess of at least twelve different geocoordinate templates: as far as the en: Misplaced Pages is concerned, it's an example of ]. One day, in a year or two, we may want something like it, but it's more likely to be implemented by progressive evolution of {{tl|coord}}, without a need for a whole new syntax. {{tl|coord}} is a kludge; but at least it's a ''single and currently-used'' kludge that is moderately well implemented and understood by our data reusers (notably Google), which can be used as a bottleneck for resolving problems as we evolve the system, without having a ]. -- ] (]) 19:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
**If one doesn't want to do the conversions from {{tl|coordinate}} to {{tl|coord}} by bot, one could modify it to output a properly formatted {{tl|coord}} when used in article namespace, e.g. <nowiki>{{Coordinate|NS=46/32/55/N|EW=7/58/59/E|type=pass|region=CH}}</nowiki> would output <nowiki>{{coord|46|32|55|N|7|58|59|E|type:pass_region:CH}}</nowiki>. -- User:Docu | |||
***'''Note''': <s>Please note that the above, although not marked as merely a comment, nor nested under another's, is {{user|Docu}}'s second post here and should not be counted again.</s>(Since kindly refactored by EncMstr) ] (User:Pigsonthewing); ]; ] 20:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Delete''' or '''Move to user space''': {{tl|Coordinate}} has some positive attributes like its brother is heavily used on DEwiki, and it accepts an elevation parameter. Disadvantages include that it takes more typing to use, and its heavier resource usage limits it to about 420 instances per article (as in an article listing coordinates), is , formatting control seems less flexible, though the last could be my misunderstanding and/or poor documentation. The disadvantages greatly predominate. However, if development of <tt>coordinate</tt> addresses these, it should be fairly easy to migrate to it sometime down the road. —] (]) 20:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
**Absolutely. One day we might migrate to something more parameterized (but that might well still be called {{tl|coord}}), but until the day we've solved all the existing multi-templates problems, we shouldn't encourage any further template proliferation. -- ] (]) 20:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
*If this is deleted, it should be '''redirect'''ed. --] 20:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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** why, and to what? Firstly, this template is not currently used in ''any'' article, removing any need for compatibility, and secondly, such a redirect would in any case be useless unless it's redirected to a template which implements the exact same interface, which creates a circular problem by taking us back to the original reason for deletion. The correct solution is to migrate any extant examples to supported templates. -- ] (]) 22:48, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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***To {{tl|coord}} as a reasonable alternate name for someone who forgot the exact name. --] 00:38, 23 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*'''Delete''' or userfy; I do not see the need for another coordinate template standard now. Don't redirect. There are several parties parsing Misplaced Pages for coordinates; we want to make that as simple as possible. -- ] (]) 07:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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*'''Delete''' per The Anome. Redundant to the superior {{tl|coord}}. ] (]) 12:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Same reason why all power templates such as {{tl|auto hp}} already been agreed to be deleted. Completely redundant and not as complete as {{tl|convert}}. {{tl|Convert}} covers all occurrences of these measurements and is far more widely used. There is nothing these templates do that {{tl|convert}} can't do, but many things these templates can't do that {{tl|convert}} can. ''']''' <small>(]·])</small> 18:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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The result of the debate was orphan, but keeping the template as a redirect to keep page history from merge{{#if:|{{#ifeq:{{{2}}}|y|] <small>]</small> 23:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)}}}}. ] <small>]</small> 23:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
:{{tfdlinks|Cyndi Lauper singles}} | :{{tfdlinks|Cyndi Lauper singles}} | ||
Merged with ], no need for two templates covering the same sets of materials. ] (]) 13:26, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | Merged with ], no need for two templates covering the same sets of materials. ] (]) 13:26, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
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The result of the debate was '''delete'''. ] <small>]</small> 21:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC){{#if:|{{#ifeq:{{{2}}}|y|] <small>]</small> 21:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)}}}} | |||
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Unused; creator blocked as an abusive role account. ] (]) 12:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | Unused; creator blocked as an abusive role account. ] (]) 12:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Fixed typo in the nomination. ] (]) 08:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
*'''Delete''' - we have {{tl|delrev}} for cases where we want to temporary retain the content or page history of an article for the duration of a deletion review. –''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 16:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Template:Coordinate
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The result of the debate was delete. I'm not making a redirect but if folks want to do it that's fine. If someone would like to userfy this, contact me and I'm happy to undelete it for that purpose. delldot ∇. 22:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Template:Coordinate (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Redundant to {{coord}} (and to {{coord missing}}). Recent discussion at WT:GEO decided by consensus that {{coord}} is the preferred coordinates template. {{coordinate}}'s documentation states "Currently not implemented.". Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Keep it facilitates integration of content from Misplaced Pages's in other languages. Pages using the template can be converted periodically to the current standard template or wh*atever new templates are made up in the meantime (e.g. {{coord missing}}). -- User:Docu
- Delete (or perhaps redirect to {{coord}}) as unused and redundant to other templates. Adambro (talk) 19:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Since it's currently deprecated, it's not going to get used, so it doesn't serve any purpose to keep it. {{Coordinate}} is a step too far, too soon, before we've even cleaned up the existing mess of at least twelve different geocoordinate templates: as far as the en: Misplaced Pages is concerned, it's an example of second system syndrome. One day, in a year or two, we may want something like it, but it's more likely to be implemented by progressive evolution of {{coord}}, without a need for a whole new syntax. {{coord}} is a kludge; but at least it's a single and currently-used kludge that is moderately well implemented and understood by our data reusers (notably Google), which can be used as a bottleneck for resolving problems as we evolve the system, without having a flag day. -- The Anome (talk) 19:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- If one doesn't want to do the conversions from {{coordinate}} to {{coord}} by bot, one could modify it to output a properly formatted {{coord}} when used in article namespace, e.g. {{Coordinate|NS=46/32/55/N|EW=7/58/59/E|type=pass|region=CH}} would output {{coord|46|32|55|N|7|58|59|E|type:pass_region:CH}}. -- User:Docu
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Please note that the above, although not marked as merely a comment, nor nested under another's, is Docu (talk · contribs)'s second post here and should not be counted again.(Since kindly refactored by EncMstr) Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Note:
- If one doesn't want to do the conversions from {{coordinate}} to {{coord}} by bot, one could modify it to output a properly formatted {{coord}} when used in article namespace, e.g. {{Coordinate|NS=46/32/55/N|EW=7/58/59/E|type=pass|region=CH}} would output {{coord|46|32|55|N|7|58|59|E|type:pass_region:CH}}. -- User:Docu
- Delete or Move to user space: {{Coordinate}} has some positive attributes like its brother is heavily used on DEwiki, and it accepts an elevation parameter. Disadvantages include that it takes more typing to use, and its heavier resource usage limits it to about 420 instances per article (as in an article listing coordinates), is not supported by Google Maps and Google Earth, formatting control seems less flexible, though the last could be my misunderstanding and/or poor documentation. The disadvantages greatly predominate. However, if development of coordinate addresses these, it should be fairly easy to migrate to it sometime down the road. —EncMstr (talk) 20:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Absolutely. One day we might migrate to something more parameterized (but that might well still be called {{coord}}), but until the day we've solved all the existing multi-templates problems, we shouldn't encourage any further template proliferation. -- The Anome (talk) 20:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- If this is deleted, it should be redirected. --NE2 20:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- why, and to what? Firstly, this template is not currently used in any article, removing any need for compatibility, and secondly, such a redirect would in any case be useless unless it's redirected to a template which implements the exact same interface, which creates a circular problem by taking us back to the original reason for deletion. The correct solution is to migrate any extant examples to supported templates. -- The Anome (talk) 22:48, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- To {{coord}} as a reasonable alternate name for someone who forgot the exact name. --NE2 00:38, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- why, and to what? Firstly, this template is not currently used in any article, removing any need for compatibility, and secondly, such a redirect would in any case be useless unless it's redirected to a template which implements the exact same interface, which creates a circular problem by taking us back to the original reason for deletion. The correct solution is to migrate any extant examples to supported templates. -- The Anome (talk) 22:48, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Delete or userfy; I do not see the need for another coordinate template standard now. Don't redirect. There are several parties parsing Misplaced Pages for coordinates; we want to make that as simple as possible. -- Eugène van der Pijll (talk) 07:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per The Anome. Redundant to the superior {{coord}}. Occuli (talk) 12:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
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Template:Cyndi Lauper singles
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The result of the debate was orphan, but keeping the template as a redirect to keep page history from merge. delldot ∇. 23:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Merged with Template:Cyndi Lauper, no need for two templates covering the same sets of materials. Wildhartlivie (talk) 13:26, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
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Template:KeptDRV
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The result of the debate was delete. delldot ∇. 21:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Template:KeptDRV (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused; creator blocked as an abusive role account. Stifle (talk) 12:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed typo in the nomination. Stifle (talk) 08:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - we have {{delrev}} for cases where we want to temporary retain the content or page history of an article for the duration of a deletion review. –Black Falcon 16:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
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